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GUY DEMPSEY: BE CITY YOU WANT TO READ OFF.
LISA DOMINICI: GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
LISA DOMINICI: WELCOME TO THE LISA DOMINICI: FULL COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE CITY OF RIOT.
LISA DOMINICI: POLICE REVIEW. TODAY IS THURSDAY, JANUARY 14 HAPPY NEW YEAR, ALTHOUGH MANY OF US SAW EACH OTHER DURING LAST WEEK'S LISA DOMINICI: PUBLIC LISTENING SESSION.
LISA DOMINICI: SOME EMAILS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED INTO THE PD REVIEW WEBSITE IF THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT IF PEOPLE WANT TO DISCUSS SOME OF THAT CONTENT AND THEN ANY ANY INFORMATION ANYONE WANTS TO SHARE OR LISA DOMINICI: CHALLENGES OR OR THOUGHTS AROUND THEIR SUBCOMMITTEE WORK. AND THEN I THINK WE NEED TO TOUCH BASE AT THE END A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FORWARD PROCESS AND BACK INTO A TIMELINE SINCE APRIL 1 IS COMING UPON US AND WE HAVE A LOT TO DO BEFORE THEN.
LISA DOMINICI: SO HOPEFULLY THAT SOUNDS OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY AGENDA ITEM. THEY WANT TO ADD LISA DOMINICI: OKAY, SO WE'LL DIG IN AND WE'LL START WITH THE SURVEY AND I'M JUST GOING TO START BEFORE I TURN IT OVER FOR LISA DOMINICI: KIND OF ALL YOUR DISCUSSION TO TO JUST CONFIRM THAT THE SURVEY DID CLOSE ON SUNDAY NIGHT, JANUARY 10 AND ON MONDAY, CAROLINA WAS ABLE TO SEND THE DATA TO LISA DOMINICI: DR. SAGE ROSE, WHO WILL BE DOING THE DATA ANALYSIS FOR US. SHE IS GOING TO WHAT WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH HER TO LISA DOMINICI: PERFORM AN ANALYSIS OF THE DATA FROM OUR SURVEY AND PROVIDE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY. BY EARLY FEBRUARY, SHE WILL MAKE HERSELF AVAILABLE FOR DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR DATA SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH LISA DOMINICI: IS HEADED BY GENEVIEVE INCUR LENA, AND I BELIEVE TED IS GOING TO PARTICIPATE ON THAT AS WELL. BUT THAT CAN BE PART OF OUR CONVERSATION.
LISA DOMINICI: AND JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL A SENSE, DR. ROSE IS AN ASSISTANT PROFESSOR AT HOFSTRA UNIVERSITY WITH PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES AND THE DEPARTMENT OF RESEARCH COUNSELING SPECIAL EDUCATION AND REHABILITATION SHARED A P LISA DOMINICI: NATIONAL PSYCHOLOGY. WHOOPS. YEAH. EDUCATIONAL PSYCHOLOGY WITH A SPECIALIZATION AND LEARNING AND COGNITION AND A MINOR IN RESEARCH METHODOLOGY METHODOLOGY. SHE CURRENTLY TEACHES GRADUATE COURSES RELATED TO RESEARCH METHODS METHODS TESTS AND MEASUREMENT AND STATISTICS SO LISA DOMINICI: SHE CAME LISA DOMINICI: THROUGH GENEVIEVE WEBER WHO'S ANOTHER FULL COMMITTEE MEMBER AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH DR. ROSE DURING THIS PROCESS.
LISA DOMINICI: SO NOW I'M GOING TO. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. SO HE'S WORKING ON IT WILL GET THE DATA BACK IN SOMETIME IN EARLY FEBRUARY AND THEN FROM OUR SUBCOMMITTEE WILL WILL THEN KIND OF TAKE OVER AND LISA DOMINICI: LOOK AT THE FINDINGS THAT SHE SHARES AND MEET WITH HER TO DISCUSS CHRISTINE GROVES: FURTHER LISA DOMINICI: WE'LL GET INTO MORE THAN A SECOND BUT GUY DEMPSEY: THESE ARE DISAPPEARED, BUT I THINK GUY DEMPSEY: WE CAN DO LISA DOMINICI: A PUBLIC SESSION LISTENING BECAUSE BE SHARING SOME OF THAT INFORMATION OUT. SO I OPEN IT UP TO THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE AT THIS POINT.
JOSH COHN: THEY SEE GUY DEMPSEY: YOU FOR A FEW SECONDS THERE.
LISA DOMINICI: SURE. WHERE DID YOU, WHERE DID YOU LOSE ME GUY DEMPSEY: YES. WHEN YOU WERE, YOU WERE MAKING YOUR TRANSITION. YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU TURN IT OVER, GENEVIEVE AND CAROLINA, YOU WERE SAYING. ONE MORE THING.
LISA DOMINICI: I THINK I SAID THAT THE NEXT PART OF THE PROCESS AFTER OUR SUBCOMMITTEE THE DATA. THE SURVEY SUBCOMMITTEE HAS COMPLETED THEIR WORK IS TO LISA DOMINICI: SHARE THE SURVEY FINDINGS WITH THE PUBLIC. AND SO WE WILL NEED TO BUILD THAT INTO OUR TIMELINE AS WELL. AND THAT WILL BE THAT WILL NEED TO BE DONE IN SOME SORT OF A PUBLIC FORUM.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: HE SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW THINGS, IF I CAN. SO SORT OF A CONTINUATION OF SOME OF THE DIALOGUE IN GENEVIEVE WEBER: THE PUBLIC LISTENING SESSION. AND I REALLY APPRECIATED WHAT ALL THE CALLERS WHO WHO SHARED HIS OWN EXPERIENCE AS AN ANALYST AND AND HOW GENEVIEVE WEBER: YOU KNOW, WE COULD WE CAN MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS AROUND THIS THIS THE SURVEY. AND SO I WANT TO JUST ONE MORE TIME.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: OFFER THAT THIS IS NOT THE KIND OF RESEARCH THAT YOU'LL FIND GENEVIEVE WEBER: YOU KNOW, IN AN ACADEMIC INSTITUTION THAT WAS SPEARHEADED WITHIN FEDERAL GUIDELINES AND ORGANIZED AS SUCH. THAT IS NOT WHAT THE SURVEY IS THIS SURVEY IS ONE OF MANY WAYS TO LEARN FROM THE COMMUNITY IN ORDER TO INFORM OUR WORK.
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GENEVIEVE WEBER: ABOUT ALCOHOL USE IN RYE, WE WOULD SEND OUT RANDOM INVITATIONS TO TAKE A SURVEY. AND IF WE REACH A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE LIKE 30% GENEVIEVE WEBER: WE ARE ABLE TO GENERALIZE THE FINDINGS TO ALL PEOPLE IN RIGHT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE SURVEY IS THIS SURVEY IS NOT BASED ON A POPULATION BECAUSE IT'S OPEN TO BOTH RESIDENTS AND NON RESIDENTS.GENEVIEVE WEBER: WE WON'T BE DOING ANY WAITING OF THE DATA. AND THAT'S A FANCY WAY OF SAYING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE GENERALIZATIONS, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT BASED ON GENEVIEVE WEBER: POPULATION NUMBERS. NUMBER ONE, WE DON'T KNOW POPULATION NUMBERS AND RYE AND WE'RE ALSO BREAKING IT DOWN BY IDENTITY AS BEST AS WE CAN AND WE DON'T HAVE POPULATION NUMBERS BY IDENTITY RACE.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: PRETTY MUCH IN LIKE AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET AVAILABLE AND THAT COULD COMPROMISE THE IDENTITY OF THOSE WHO GENEVIEVE WEBER: WHO WE COMMITTED TO ANONYMITY AND SO THEREFORE THE RAW DATA, MEANING THE COMMENTS, WORD FOR WORD SUBMITTED ARE NOT GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE TOWN OR RESIDENTS IN ITS RAW FORM BECAUSE THAT CAN BE TRACED BACK AND PEOPLE CAN BE IDENTIFIABLE GENEVIEVE WEBER: BUT WE WILL CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE DATA. IF THE COMMITTEE CHOOSES TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO SOME OF THE FINDINGS.
LISA DOMINICI: UM, GENEVIEVE, ONE QUICK QUESTION AND LISA DOMINICI: WAIT FOR A MINUTE, BUT A FEW PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT BEING DIRECTIONAL AND NATURE IS THAT, IS IT A DIRECTIONAL NATURE BECAUSE I JUST THAT'S GENEVIEVE WEBER: WELL, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, WE HAVE TO REALLY ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH WITH WHAT WE ASKED HOW THE SURVEY WAS STRUCTURED AND WE ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OF GENEVIEVE WEBER: OF CONTACT WITH WITH THE POLICE AND SO WILL REPORT THE DATA AS WE AS WE GET IT AND AND WE'RE NOT MAKING GENERALIZATIONS. SO THAT'S THE BEST WAY AND AND IN THE REPORT.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: WE CAN HAVE A SHORT SECTION AND I COULD TALK TO DR. ROSE ABOUT LIMITATIONS OF THIS AND SAYING, THIS IS NOT A STUDY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GENERALIZE IS SAYING THIS IS HAPPENING TO ALL PEOPLE IN RIGHT GENEVIEVE WEBER: IT'S SPECIFIC INSTANCES IT'S ONE DATA SOURCE OF MANY SOURCES TO HELP US DEVELOP A GREAT REPORT IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY TO PROVIDE TO THE STATE.
JOSH COHN: FORGIVE ME, WHAT JOSH COHN: IS WHAT DOES DIRECTIONAL MEAN IN THIS CONTEXT.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: AND SO I THINK MAYOR CODE THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME SUBJECTIVITY, SO THEY ARE OF WHAT DIRECTIONAL WHAT DIRECTIONAL MEANS. AND I GUESS WE WE CAN SAY WE DEVELOPED A SURVEY TO LEARN ABOUT EXPERIENCES AND PERCEPTIONS, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SO GENEVIEVE WEBER: THAT'S HOW I HOW I INTERPRETED DIRECTIONAL COREY STARK: WITH COREY STARK: THE SUBCOMMITTEE BEEN FINALIZED BECAUSE JUST FROM YOUR INITIAL COMMENTS. I WASN'T SURE.
LISA DOMINICI: I DO NOT THINK THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE WAS NOT FINALIZED.
LISA DOMINICI: AS A VOTE BY THIS FULL COMMITTEE. SO I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.
LISA DOMINICI: WE HAD TALKED ABOUT GENEVIEVE CAROLINA AND TED BEING PART OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE AND THE NEED TO KEEP IT SMALL. BUT IF ANOTHER PERSON FELT STRONGLY TO BE ON IT. SO WE SHOULD HEAR FROM YOU NOW AND OTHERWISE, I THINK AS A FULL COMMITTEE, WE SHOULD LISA DOMINICI: CONFIRM, YOU KNOW, YAY OR NAY THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
GUY DEMPSEY: DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.
LISA DOMINICI: DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY INPUT.
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PATRICK MCGOVERN: DETERMINE WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THIS IS CORRECT. YOU GUYS WILL JUST SORT THROUGH IT AND SAY, PATRICK MCGOVERN: YOU KNOW, WITH THE DATA YOU GET BACK FROM THE PERSON ANALYZING IT, YOU WILL COME BACK AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TOLD THE DATA, YOU KNOW, SHOWED AND THEN LET'S ALL DISCUSS PATRICK MCGOVERN: YOU KNOW HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THAT, WHETHER WE THINK IT'S RELIABLE AND THEN WHAT WE DO GOING FORWARD IS THAT CORRECT ASSESSMENT.GENEVIEVE WEBER: I WOULD SAY THAT'S FAIR AND AND THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE DIRECTIONAL THING COMES IN BECAUSE I WE DID NOT GENEVIEVE WEBER: CREATE THE SURVEY WITH THIS HYPOTHESIS AND WE'RE ACTUALLY DEVISED IT TO MEASURE WHAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO FIND THAT'S NOT THE CASE. WE TOGETHER DEVELOP THESE QUESTIONS TO SAY, HEY, WHAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: INSTANCES. AND ALSO, CAROLYN, AND I, WHEN WE HAD OUR PHONE CALL. WE WENT THROUGH SOME OF THE OPEN ENDED COMMENTS AND THERE'S THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOT OF RICH INFORMATION THERE. AND THAT'S WHY, IN SOME INSTANCES TOO RICH THAT GENEVIEVE WEBER: THAT THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO PROTECT THAT. BUT THEN WE'LL TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THAT AND THE COMMITTEE CAN SAY, HEY, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS.
TED LIVINGSTON: DR. ROSE WILL BE DOING SO FOR EXAMPLE. AND I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T SEEN AND I'M NOT LIKE TED LIVINGSTON: URGING TO SAY, THAT'LL BE BACK THE ROSES JOB, I GUESS. BUT WILL SHE BE CONDUCTING MORE LIKE A WILL SHOULD BE CONDUCTING IN PART OF MATHEMATICAL ANALYSIS. SO FOR EXAMPLE IF JUST HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THERE WERE, SAY 700 TED LIVINGSTON: SURVEYS SUBMITTED AND YOU HAVE A FINITE NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND THEN WITHIN THOSE QUESTIONS, A FINITE NUMBER OF ANSWERS THAT CAN BE CHOSEN TED LIVINGSTON: WILL SHE PROVIDE US WITH THE MATHEMATICAL BREAKDOWN IN OTHER WORDS OF THE 700 ON QUESTION ONE, YOU KNOW, ANSWER A WAS 200 TIMES ANSWER BE WAS 300, THAT KIND OF THING. IN ADDITION TO TED LIVINGSTON: YOU KNOW HER OTHER ANALYSES.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: SHOULD I ANSWER THAT.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: SO SO TED, SO. SO YES, I THINK THE EASIEST LEVEL ONE ANALYSES WOULD BE DESCRIPTIVE STATS SAYING OKAY GENEVIEVE WEBER: YOU KNOW, THE, THE LIQUORED SCALE OF SATISFACTION FOR THE QUESTIONS. WHAT, WHERE DO WE LAND WITH PERCENTAGES AND WE WILL LIKELY SEE RIGHT HIGH PERCENTAGES AND GENEVIEVE WEBER: HIGHER PERCENTAGES AND THE VERY SATISFIED SATISFIED IF YOU REMEMBER HOW WE HOW WE DEVISED THE SURVEY, BUT WHAT DR. ROSE SAID TO ME IN A IN A BRIEF CALL WITH HER.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: AND THEN RUN THOSE DESCRIPTIVE STATS PRECISELY FOR EACH QUESTION AND THEN TAKE A LOOK AND AND THE WAY THAT YOU DETERMINE SORT OF THE MATHEMATICAL END IS GENEVIEVE WEBER: LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURE OF THE QUESTIONS. WHAT MAY WHAT WHAT STATISTICAL. WHAT CAN I DO WITH THIS STATISTICALLY GENEVIEVE WEBER: AND AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE'S WHAT SHE'S DECIDED YET AND THAT'S WHERE HER EXPERTISE COMES IN THAT SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO US AND SAY, HEY, LOOK AT THE DATA AND GETTING TO KNOW IT NOW.
SHE'LL BE SPEAKING JOSH COHN: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
GUY DEMPSEY: YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.
LISA DOMINICI: JAMIE LISA DOMINICI: JAMIE, I THINK YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY. AND WE'LL GO BACK TO CAROLINA JAMIE JENSEN: I FIRST I WANT TO SAY THAT JAMIE JENSEN: FOR A CITIZENS COMMITTEE. I'M REALLY PLEASED THAT WE HAVE JAMIE JENSEN: AMANDA AND GENEVIEVE AND CAROLINA AND TED ON THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE THERE'S A LEVEL OF EXPERTISE AND AN A LEVEL OF CAREFULNESS WELL EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN EXPERTISE IN
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JAMIE JENSEN: RESEARCH DESIGN. THERE'S A CAREFULNESS THAT COMES TO BEING AN ATTORNEY LIKE TED. SO I APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE. I'M FINE WITH THAT SIZE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE. SO THAT'S MY FIRST POINT. MY SECOND POINT IS JAMIE JENSEN: WE SHOULD NOT ASSUME THAT ANYTHING WILL BE GENERALIZABLE, AND IF WE GET THAT INTO OUR HEADS THAT WE'RE MESSING AROUND. THIS IS REALLY ABOUT JAMIE JENSEN: MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME INSIGHTS IN A SAFE AND ANONYMOUS WAY FROM PEOPLE. SO EVEN IF ONLY TWO PEOPLE.JAMIE JENSEN: HAVE SOMETHING PROBLEMATIC WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IF IT, IF IT'S ONLY TWO OUT OF 500 SURVEYS JAMIE JENSEN: IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE POLICY CHANGES. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO BE STORMING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND TELLING THEM YOU KNOW JAMIE JENSEN: WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO STOP AND REFLECT ON WHO WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY, AND WHAT WE ALLOW TO HAPPEN. AND SO I HAVE TO KEEP SAYING THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING DIRECTIONAL, BUT THE JAMIE JENSEN: THE DIRECTION THAT CAME FROM THE GOVERNOR IS NOT JUST WE CHECKED OFF THE BOXES. IT CAME OUT OF A LARGER CONVERSATION AT THE STATE LEVEL.
COREY STARK: UM, I THINK WE SHOULD FORMALIZE THIS SUB COMMITTEE.
COREY STARK: AND TODAY, AND THEN SET OUT WHATEVER GUIDELINES ARE GOING TO BE COREY STARK: OUR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONFIDENTIALITY, THE LAST MEETING. SO I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO FORMALIZE THOSE IN ANY WAY THAT PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE JAMIE JENSEN: SO MAKE AN INQUIRY.
COREY STARK: FORM OKAY AND MAKE A MOTION FOR THESE FOR TO BE OUR SUBCOMMITTEE.
ANNE BIANCHI: I LIKE LISA DOMINICI: ALL POST LISA DOMINICI: OKAY, SO WE HAVE OUR SUBCOMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR GUY DEMPSEY: AND THEN MAYBE THERE'S ACTUALLY A POINT, WE SHOULD MAKE GENERALLY ABOUT GUY DEMPSEY: OBVIOUSLY ALL COMMITTEE AND SUBCOMMITTEE MATTERS.
ANNE BIANCHI: STOOD GOOD ABSOLUTELY.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: THAT'S CORRECT. AND I THINK IT'S MORE FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE. SO WHAT I HAVE WHEN I HAVE MY SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS ON A SEPARATE CALL GENEVIEVE WEBER: DEFINITELY CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION AND THAT THAT MEANS THAT WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE DATA TO NOT YOU KNOW MAYBE BE OUT HAVING A COFFEE AND GENEVIEVE WEBER: TALKING ABOUT THAT AS GUY DESCRIBED IT AS AS LIGHTLY. SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE I FEEL MOST CONCERNED AND I DO TRUST MY, MY, MY CO COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT THAT WE WILL CERTAINLY PROTECT THE DATA AND ALSO BE TRANSPARENT AND WHAT WE FIND, BUT WITHOUT WITHOUT REVEALING IDENTITY. OKAY.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: SO THANK YOU FOR CHECKING INQUIRY.
PATRICK MCGOVERN: OR WONDER MAKE ONE SUGGESTION OR IT'S YOU MAY ALL AGREE WITH THIS.
PATRICK MCGOVERN: ANYWAY, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE. AND, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT. I'M SURE ALL OF OUR CAREERS, WHEN WE PATRICK MCGOVERN: PARTICULAR ISSUE DIVVIED UP INTO SMALL GROUPS. I THINK THAT THAT WITHIN THAT SMALL GROUP AND IT SHOULD ONLY DISCUSS BE DISCUSSED WHEN ALL FOUR OF THEM ARE TOGETHER.
PATRICK MCGOVERN: SO I HAVE SEEN IT IN THE PAST, OVER MANY YEARS WERE A SMALL SUBGROUP OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE WHO FEEL ARE PRETTY CLEAR THAT THEY ARE LIKE MINDED WOULD GET TOGETHER AND DEVELOP THEIR PATRICK MCGOVERN: CASE, IF YOU WILL, OR I DON'T WANT TO USE THESE WORD CASE OR ARGUMENT, BUT I DON'T THINK PATRICK MCGOVERN: WHEN THAT SUB COMMITTEE MEETS THEY SHOULD NOT DISCUSS IT WITH ANYBODY ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE UNLESS THE WHOLE SUBCOMMITTEE IS TOGETHER.
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GENEVIEVE WEBER: I LIKE THAT.GUY DEMPSEY: I THINK CARA, CARA LENA WAS TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING EARLIER BUT GUY DEMPSEY: THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH HEARING HER. CAN YOU TRY AGAIN. CAROLYN.
CAROLINA JOHNSON: CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW.
GUY DEMPSEY: YOU CAN HEAR YOU.
CAROLINA JOHNSON: YES. OKAY, GREAT.
CAROLINA JOHNSON: I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'M SORRY I'M ON THE ROAD. SO I'VE BEEN IN AND OUT. BUT WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 474 RESPONSES IN BOTH SPANISH AND ENGLISH VERSIONS AND CAROLINA JOHNSON: I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING. I MIGHT THAT WE HAVE SOME GUIDELINES AND RULES AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT.
GUY DEMPSEY: WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION AROUND WHEN DR. ROSE WERE FINISHING HER WORK. IT WAS THROUGH EARLY FEBRUARY, WHICH WAS MENTIONED, BUT WHAT IS WHAT IS EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN GENEVIEVE WEBER: YEAH, SO WE STUCK WITH OUR WITH OUR SCHEDULE. AND THEN ALSO, DR. ROSE HAS A FULL TEACHING SCHEDULE STARTING FEBRUARY, SO SHE SAID SHE HOPES TO GET IT OFF HER PLATE BY FEBRUARY FOR GENEVIEVE WEBER: PERSONAL REASONS. SO SHE'S GOING TO CLEAN THE DATA, ANALYZE THE DATA, GET TO KNOW THE DATA RIGHT AND EXECUTIVE SUMMARY KIND OF REPORT THAT'S GENEVIEVE WEBER: DIGESTIBLE YOU KNOW NOTHING TOO BIG OR FANCY, BUT REALLY APPROPRIATE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND GET THAT BACK TO US BY FED ONE AND THEN SHE'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR GENEVIEVE WEBER: SOME PHONE CALLS, AS WE SEE FIT, MAYBE WE MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ANY EDITS TO THE REPORT, SO SHE'LL BE AVAILABLE IN FEBRUARY, BUT I THINK IT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST ACROSS ALL LEVEL, YOU KNOW, WAYS TO HAVE THAT DATA AT THAT REPORT BY. STEP ONE.
GUY DEMPSEY: THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE SURVEY.
COREY STARK: JUST IN TERMS OF TIMING.
GUY DEMPSEY: I THINK NOT. I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD BE PROCEEDING TO DIG INTO THEIR TOPICS AND GUY DEMPSEY: THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE SURVEY WE FOLD IT INTO THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY ONGOING I AGREE WITH THE POINT THAT YOU CAN'T GUY DEMPSEY: COMPLETE OUR TASK OF MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THE DATA WE NEED WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE SURVEY RESULTS, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD POSTPONE OTHER EFFORTS AND OTHER STUDIES AND CONSIDERATION OF ISSUES.
GUY DEMPSEY: WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE SURVEY. I THINK IT'S AN ADD ON RATHER THAN A PRECONDITION.
JOSH COHN: THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS THOSE WELL BEFORE I, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, RIGHT.
JOSH COHN: RIGHT, SO JOSH COHN: THOSE EXCUSE ME THOSE WON'T BE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THAT POINT, THE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL HAVE TO HAVE BEEN OUT FOR PUBLIC HEARING JOSH COHN: AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ENACTMENT. SO THERE'S A WHOLE PUBLIC PROCESS THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IS DELIVERING WHAT IT IN ACTS TO ALBANY. ON APRIL 1 GUY DEMPSEY: ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHY SHOULD WE'RE WORKING BACKWARDS FROM APRIL 1 TO COME UP WITH THE TIMELINE.
LISA DOMINICI: THIS WAS ACTUALLY LISA DOMINICI: TECHNICALLY, THE LAST AGENDA ITEM. SORRY. NO, THAT'S OKAY. IT'S SO I BECAUSE I LOOKED, I LOOKED AT THE REPORT AGAIN LAST NIGHT, AND THIS IS WHY I WANTED TO DISCUSS IT. SO, APRIL 1 BY APRIL 1 WE NEED TO SEND IT TO THE STATE.
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LISA DOMINICI: BEFORE THEN, THE CITY NEEDS TO RECTIFY IT BEFORE THAT HAPPENS, WE NEED TO PUT A PROPOSED PLAN IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC. SO I THINK THAT OUR GOAL SHOULD BE BY MARCH ONE THAT PROPOSED PLAN OUR PLAN IS DONE.LISA DOMINICI: AND IT GOES TO THE PUBLIC AND WE NEED TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AMPLE TIME TO COMMENT AND TO TO TO TO DISCUSS IT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S BUILT INTO THE GOVERNOR'S LISA DOMINICI: THAT THE REFORM AND REINVENTION COLLABORATIVE REPORT. SO WHETHER WE DO THAT, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE PROPOSE WE PROVIDE A PROPOSED PLAN. WE NEED TO WALK PEOPLE THROUGH IT. WE NEED TO EXPLAIN IT.
LISA DOMINICI: WE NEED TO DO THINGS LIKE PERHAPS WRITE AN OP ED ARTICLE AND HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC FORUM AND REALLY TALK PEOPLE THROUGH THE PROPOSED PLAN GIVE LISA DOMINICI: THE PUBLIC TIME TO RESPOND. AND THEN WE TAKE THOSE RESPONSES AND WE BUILD THEM AND THIS COMMITTEE TAKES THOSE COLLECTIVE RESPONSES AND DETERMINES HOW THEY LISA DOMINICI: IMPACT THE PLAN AND WE REVISE THE PLAN AND THEN SUBMIT IT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR RATIFICATION. SO WE I I REALLY THINK NEED TO GIVE A SOLID MONTH FOR THAT PROCESS. AND SO IF WE CONTINUE TO BACKUP.
LISA DOMINICI: WE NEED TO BE AS A COMMITTEE, I THINK, DISCUSSING DURING YOU KNOW THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY ARE DIFFERENT SUB SECTIONS EACH MEETING AND EACH SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING PEOPLE SHOULD BE LISA DOMINICI: TALKING ABOUT THEIR FINDINGS AND DISCUSSING IT AND YOU KNOW TALKING, YOU KNOW, REALLY KIND OF GETTING INTO IT SO THAT THEY CAN THEN CREATE THEIR PIECE OF THE REPORT.
GREG USRY: BUT ALTHOUGH THEY DON'T JUST SO JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, JUST FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT.
PATRICK MCGOVERN: I TED LIVINGSTON: LISA. CAN I PROPOSE MAYBE SUBMITTING THROUGH SOMEBODY SUBMITTING IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE YOU.
LISA DOMINICI: SO 100% ABSOLUTELY, YES, WE SHOULD WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT. TWO MONTHS AGO, FRANKLY, SO TED LIVINGSTON: OH, NO, NO.
TED LIVINGSTON: VERY BUSY. SO THIS IS ALL LISA DOMINICI: WE NEED TO. OTHERWISE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE OUR DEADLINE.
JOSH COHN: IF, IF, FOR INSTANCE, WE WERE TO NEED TO AMEND THE RICE CITY CODE.
JOSH COHN: THEN WE NEED AT LEAST TWO MEETINGS THAT IS WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING AT ONE MEETING AND THEN HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE LATER MEETING. SO WE WOULD NEED TO JOSH COHN: BE SCHEDULING THAT ON MARCH FORTH FOR MARCH 24 AND UP A PROBLEM IN THIS SCHEDULE IS WE HAVE NO SCHEDULED MEETING FALL BACK IF THINGS DON'T WORK OUT SMOOTHLY AT THE MARCH 24 MEETING.
JOSH COHN: WE MIGHT USE UP ALL OF MARCH LIFE, TO YOUR POINT, PATRICK, WITH AT LEAST A JOSH COHN: AT AT LEAST SOME PRESENCE OF THIS ON OUR AGENDA ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.
GREG USRY: YEAH, THE ONE, THE ONE THING I WOULD JUST AMEND THAT GREG USRY: AND IS JUST IF ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT CODE CHANGES RESULT AND CHANGES TO THE GENERAL ORDERS.
GREG USRY: THEN THERE, THERE WOULDN'T BE A OBVIOUSLY PROCEDURE FOR ADOPTING THAT AND I NEED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE NOTICE PERIOD YOU KNOW WHETHER THERE NEEDS TO BE THE SAME THING AS WOULD BE IN THE CODE, BUT IT COULD IMPACT BOTH GENERAL ORDERS AND THE WORST CITY SO GUY DEMPSEY: YOU KNOW, BUT EVEN IF GUY DEMPSEY: WE GUY DEMPSEY: DON'T GET PATRICK MCGOVERN: TO THE SIX OR SEVEN DAYS FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO, YOU KNOW, PATRICK MCGOVERN: CREATE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS OR REPORT. I MEAN, IF I FEEL LIKE THE MEETING NEEDS TO BE SCHEDULED IN FEBRUARY AND THE END THE MEETING SHOULD TAKE PLACE ON THE MARCH 10 COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE THAT WAY WE HAVE. I DON'T THINK SIX OR SEVEN DAYS IS SUFFICIENT TIME AFTER MARCH 24
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ANNE BIANCHI: RIGHT. YEAH, RIGHT.LISA JAMIE JENSEN: IS THERE, AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT I HAVE A FEELING, YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT, MOST RECENTLY.
JAMIE JENSEN: DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN WE HAVE TO HAVE ASKED CITY COUNCIL TO CHANGE PRACTICE LAW ORDER ANYTHING OR THAT THEY JUST ACCEPTED THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN IT WENT UP TO JAMIE JENSEN: LIKE, I THINK THAT PLAYS A BIG ROLE. BECAUSE IF IF THEY'RE EXPECTING US TO DO THE WORK. AFTER THE RECOMMENDATIONS COME OUT. THAT'S QUITE A BIG TASK.
LISA DOMINICI: THEY'RE NOT EXPECTING US TO IMPLEMENT THE CHANGES BUT BUT LISA DOMINICI: FROM WHAT I READ, AND GREG IN LISA DOMINICI: AMERICA CAN MAYBE, YOU KNOW, LISA DOMINICI: ELUCIDATE BUT WE, IT SAYS THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS TO RATIFY IT. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY ADOPTED THE PROPOSAL.
CAROLINA JOHNSON: NOW, I THINK I JOSH COHN: IMPORTANT POINT CAROLINA JOHNSON: I THINK JAMIE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE ARE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE CITY CODE, WE ARE CAROLINA JOHNSON: CHANGING THE GENERAL ORDERS. THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN MAYBE IT'S UP TO US TO FOLLOW UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS GET IMPLEMENTED, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL IS TO SET SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
CAROLINA JOHNSON: DOWN IN MY SUBCOMMITTEE.
ANNE BIANCHI: IT COULD TAKE YEARS TO IMPLEMENT CERTAIN RECOMMENDATIONS.
JAMIE JENSEN: AND I DON'T THINK ANY ONE OF OUR ANY ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHO HAPPENED TO BE SITTING AS ELECTED OFFICIALS ON OUR CITY COUNCIL ARE GOING TO WANT TO RATIFY SOMETHING JAMIE JENSEN: IN THAT SHORT OF A PERIOD IF IT ACTUALLY MEANS HIRING PEOPLE MONEY EXPENDITURE, LIKE IT'S JUST ABSURD TO EVEN THINK THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN. SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE REALLY CLEAR.
JAMIE JENSEN: THAT THEY WILL ADDRESS THEM. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO PROMISE EVERYTHING THAT GETS DONE GETS DONE BY APRIL ONE, I DON'T MEAN IMPLEMENTATION. I JUST MEAN JAMIE JENSEN: WE FULLY ACCEPT THEM, WE VOTED AT BLAH BLAH BLAH, LIKE I I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST SUCH A DISSERVICE TO OUR CITY TO OUR LOCAL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I WOULD REALLY HAVE A HARD TIME GREG USRY: THE WAY THE WAY THE EXECUTIVE ORDER READS, IS THAT THE LEGISLATIVE BODY IS GOING TO ADOPT OR RATIFIED THE RECOMMENDATIONS SO JAMIE JENSEN: THAT, OH MY GOSH, ARE YOU KIDDING ME, I'M SORRY.
JAMIE JENSEN: THIS IS A PUBLIC THING.
JAMIE JENSEN: I'M SORRY, BUT JOSH COHN: NO, I, I THINK WHAT GREG READ ACTUALLY SUPPORTS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, JAMIE.
JAMIE JENSEN: CORRECT. OKAY, TELL ME.
JOSH COHN: YEAH, WE'RE JOSH COHN: ADOPTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS BUT NOT NECESSARILY IMPLEMENTING THEM RIGHT AWAY WHICH WHICH WHICH IS WHICH IS HUGE. SO THAT, THAT TAKES THE PRESSURE SOMEWHAT OFF OUR MEETING SCHEDULE.
JOSH COHN: THAT IS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THE CITY CODE. WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE THAT WE WILL WHICH FROM JOSH COHN: I MEAN, THAT MAY WORK FROM ALBANY'S PERSPECTIVE WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CORPORATION COUNSEL TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET TO EFFECT THAT JOSH COHN: THAT IS A PROMISE TO CHANGE THE CODE, IF THAT'S WHAT COMES OUT AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITHOUT FOLLOWING THE SAME PROCEDURE FOR ACTUALLY CHANGING THE CODE.
BEN STACKS: BUT I'M SORRY. SO THAT IS ADOPTION APPROVAL AND CAN WE APPROVE WITHOUT HAVING THE PUBLIC INPUT FIRST SO JOSH COHN: AFTER WE GET, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC IN WE HAVE THE THIS COMMITTEE HAS TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITS PROPOSAL BEFORE IT GIVES ITS PROPOSAL IN FINAL TO US ON THE COUNCIL.
JOSH COHN: SO IT GOES THROUGH THAT HEARING COMING THROUGH A HEARING TO FACILITATE THE COMMITTEE PROCESS. AND THEN WHEN ITS FINAL IT COMES TO US ON THE COUNCIL AGAIN AND CITY OF RYE ZOOM ADMIN: GO AHEAD, BEN.
BEN STACKS: OH, BEFORE APRIL 1 JOSH COHN: YES, YEAH.
COREY STARK: SO, JAMIE JENSEN: SO BAD. AND SO LET'S BACKTRACK, BECAUSE I THINK MR MCGOVERN'S POINT. I CAN'T REMEMBER YOUR FIRST NAME I'M APOLOGIZING.
JAMIE JENSEN: PATRICK SORRY, PATRICK.
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JAMIE JENSEN: AND HOW WE THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDING SO IT THAT IT COULD HAMSTRING US FOR DOING ANYTHING REALLY RADICAL CLEARLY JAMIE JENSEN: BUT IT CAN'T. BUT IT'S GOING TO PLAY A ROLE, AND HOW WE WERE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO READ LIKE WE EXPECT OVER A PERIOD OF BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. YOU KNOW, IT'S THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOFTER RECOMMENDATIONS. THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT.GUY DEMPSEY: I THINK YOU'RE JUMPING INTO A BIT OF A CONCLUSION THERE. JAMIE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE DRIVEN BY THE INDIVIDUAL GUY DEMPSEY: PROPOSALS FILTERING UP THROUGH THIS SUBCOMMITTEES TO THE COMMITTEE AND WE WILL PRESENT THEM IN WHATEVER FORM WE THAT COMMITTEE DECIDE WE WANT US JAMIE JENSEN: OKAY, WE DO THAT.
GUY DEMPSEY: BY MARCH 1 WE WILL THEN PRESENT THAT PROPOSED SLATE OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. WE HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC LISTENING SESSION AT A MINIMUM, AND THEN GUY DEMPSEY: ADJUST THE PLAN. IF WE FEEL IT APPROPRIATE BASED ON PUBLIC REACTION TO OUR PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN WE WRAP THAT ALL UP AND HAND IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
GUY DEMPSEY: AND I THINK JUST TO PUT A VERY SPECIFIC POINT ON IT. THE CITY COUNCIL IS IS NOT REQUIRED TO APPROVE ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, THE CITY COUNCIL IS AN INDEPENDENT ACTOR IN THIS, THE CITY COUNCIL THEN TAKES WHATEVER THEY HAVE APPROVED AS THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND SEND THEM ON TO THE GOVERNOR AMANDA YANNETT: I'M KIND OF ADDING ANOTHER LAYER HERE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AMANDA YANNETT: I KNOW I EMAILED YOU GUY AND LISA ABOUT THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND I KNOW I HAVE BROUGHT THEM UP BEFORE I FIND IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO GIVE AMANDA YANNETT: FULLY INFORMED AND THOROUGH RECOMMENDATIONS, WITHOUT ANY OF US HAVING LOOKED AT THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF OUR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AMANDA YANNETT: I KNOW I QUOTED THE HANDBOOK PROVIDED BY GOVERNOR CUOMO HIS OFFICE SAYING THAT EVERY COMMITTEE FORMED ACROSS NEW YORK STATE SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO AMANDA YANNETT: AND A FULL PICTURE OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT POLICIES, PROCEDURES AND ACTIVITY AND THAT WE CANNOT MEANINGFULLY EVALUATE THE PERFORMANCE OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT WITHOUT THEM.
AMANDA YANNETT: I KNOW IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT THERE'S A SAFETY CONCERN, HOWEVER.
AMANDA YANNETT: I HONESTLY FIND THAT A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE, GIVEN THAT HARRISON RYE BROOK MAMARONECK NEW ROCHELLE, NEW YORK STATE, ALL OF THOSE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR THE AMANDA YANNETT: FURTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS IS PUBLIC. YOU CAN GOOGLE RIGHT NOW RIGHT BROOKS POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR ENTIRE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES HANDBOOK COMES UP. SAME THING WITH NEW ROCHELLE, NEW YORK STATE PATROL.
AMANDA YANNETT: ETC. AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING I'M GOING TO REALLY PUSH FOR THAT AT LEAST THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE ACCESS TO, BECAUSE I THINK AMANDA YANNETT: IT'S CRUCIAL FOR OUR REVIEW OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IT'S REQUIRED IT'S IT'S IT'S BASICALLY SEEMS REQUIRED ACCORDING TO THE HANDBOOK AND OTHER TOWNS HAVE BEEN AMANDA YANNETT: MAKING THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION TO NOT JUST THEIR COMMITTEES, BUT TO PEOPLE THAT DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THEIR TOWNS. SO I'M GOING TO REALLY PUSH FOR THAT.
COREY STARK: ANY CLAIM THAT THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ARE CONFIDENTIAL IN ANY WAY IS ABSURD BECAUSE THEY'RE FOIBLE AND ANYTIME AMANDA YANNETT: THAT'S SO THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM TALKING TO LIKE LAWYERS AND MY FAMILY AND LAWYERS THAT I KNOW IT, THAT ARE BARRED IN NEW YORK STATE AND. HOWEVER, I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THEM FOR A WHILE NOW AND I AND I JUST HAVEN'T RECEIVED THEM AND I'M NOT PUTTING THAT ON LISA GUY OR LISA DOMINICI: AT ALL, MAN. I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT THEY SHOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE IN PUBLIC. HAVE YOU BEEN TOLD, YOU CANNOT HAVE THEM, ARE YOU JUST NOT GETTING A RESPONSE.
AMANDA YANNETT: WELL, AMANDA YANNETT: I HAVE ASKED IN THE COMMITTEE MEETING BEFORE ABOUT THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND I HAVE EMAILED TO THE RIGHT. POLICE DEPARTMENT.
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ANNE BIANCHI: ARE SOME OTHER LISA, I, I HAD SENT YOUR REQUEST TO FOR THE, THE POLICE MANUAL BECAUSE I ANNE BIANCHI: I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR ALL OF US TO BE BOMBARDING THE POLICE WOULD SEPARATE REQUESTS. RIGHT. SO MAYBE IF YOU COULD ASK THEM OR OR IF LISA DOMINICI: I DID SO I KNOW WHAT GUY AND I DO IS WE COLLECTIVELY RECEIVE YOUR REQUESTS AND WE SEND THEM FORWARD TO LISA DOMINICI: OKAY, DO YOU KNOW LISA DOMINICI: OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE, THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE TO LIEUTENANT FOG AND TO LISA DOMINICI: YOU KNOW, AND SO THEN. SO IN OUR SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS I DO ASK ALL OF YOU TO LET YOU KNOW TO LET ME KNOW IF THERE ARE ISSUES. SO AN ISSUE IS NOT GETTING A RESPONSE. RIGHT. YEAH.ANNE BIANCHI: I DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE.
LISA DOMINICI: TO OUR WORK. IF WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION GREG USRY: WHY DON'T. WHY DON'T WE DO THIS. WHY, COMMISSIONER FALL. CAN I CAN TALK AFTER THIS CALL AND FIND THE BEST WAY TO MAKE ALL THAT AVAILABLE TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
LISA DOMINICI: YEAH, I MEAN, BUT QUICKLY BECAUSE GREG USRY: I LISA DOMINICI: YOU KNOW, A MONTH TO DO THE WORK.
AMANDA YANNETT: IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE TO GET THROUGH THEM. YEAH.
CAROLINA JOHNSON: BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET WE DON'T GET GUY DEMPSEY: THAT'S THAT'S BEEN FORWARDED ON CAROLINA. NEXT CAME TO GUY DEMPSEY: YOUR BICEP COMMITTEE SO I PUT IT WE'RE DONE.
GUY DEMPSEY: ROB, COULD YOU JUST, COULD YOU JUST SPEAK TO WHAT IS OR IS NOT ONLINE OR ELECTRONICALLY AVAILABLE IN TERMS OF YOUR POLICIES, PROCEDURES, JUST WE WE GUY DEMPSEY: GET A BASELINE.
ROB FALK: YEAH. OUR, OUR PROCEDURES POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ARE NOT OUT THERE FOR PUBLIC VIEWING I ROB FALK: WASN'T QUITE SURE WHETHER RIGHT BROOKE, HAS IT IS THERE. AMANDA WOULD DO KNOW IF THEIR ENTIRE POLICY AND PROCEDURE MANUAL IS OUT THERE, THE ENTIRE ONE I AMANDA YANNETT: BELIEVE SO BECAUSE IT'S 600 PAGES LONG.
AMANDA YANNETT: THAT'S NOT ROB FALK: THAT'S ONE CHAPTER IN OUR BOOK.
AMANDA YANNETT: I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST ROB FALK: THIS IS ONE OF THOSE. THAT'S A LITTLE HUMOR. YOU GOT TO READ ROB FALK: JUST A LITTLE HUMOR.
ROB FALK: IT'S QUITE LENGTHY AND IT'S QUITE CONFUSING BECAUSE ALONG WITH OUR POLICIES THEY HAVE TO BE WRITTEN IN ROB FALK: ORDER COORDINATED WITH THE ACCREDITATION PROGRAMS STANDARDS. SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS, IN FACT, I'VE MAILED OUT, I BELIEVE, MAYBE ROB FALK: EIGHT OR SO POLICIES TO GUIDE DEMPSEY THIS MORNING TO BE DISTRIBUTED AMONGST SOME PEOPLE I AM RELUCTANT TO PUT OUT OUR ROB FALK: POLICY ON BANK ALARM RESPONSE, EVEN THOUGH COREY SAYS IT'S FLEXIBLE, I WOULD HARDLY BELIEVE ITS ENTIRETY IS NOT FLEXIBLE AS LET'S FACE IT, IF WE HAD BANK ROBBERS STILL AND NOT JUST COMPUTER WIZARDS.
ROB FALK: THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT HOW WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND TO A BANK AND PROBABLY SUCCESSFULLY PULL OFF A BANK JOB. SO THAT, TO ME, DOES NOT MAKE COMMON SENSE TO SEND IT OUT TO THE ENTIRE PUBLIC GREG USRY: LET ME JUST GET THE RAW VEGAN AROUND THERE. THERE IS WITHIN THE FORMAL PROCESS IS TO ANSWER THAT.
JOSH COHN: I WOULD JUST ASK AS WE DO THAT, THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE COMMITTEE'S TASK AND MAYBE THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN JOSH COHN: POSTING ONLINE AND DISTRIBUTING TO THIS COMMITTEE BUT WE WE WE DO OUR BEST TO MAKE THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE.
AMANDA YANNETT: NEEDS TO INCREASE, BUT IT'S LIKE HARRISON, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT WEBSITE HAS A FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS PAGE ON THEIR USE OF FORCE POLICY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I'M PRETTY SURE TED IS WORKING ON SPECIFICALLY AMANDA YANNETT: I COULD BE WRONG BUT AND SO IT'S LIKE MAYBE WE EXPLORE MAKING CERTAIN POLICIES THAT OUR COMMUNITY FINDS REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW ABOUT SUCH AS AMANDA YANNETT: RISE USE OF FORCE POLICY, PUBLIC LIKE HARRISON DIDN'T HAVE LIKE A FAQ PAGE ON THAT AND DO IT WITH CERTAIN POLICIES FOR THE GREATER PUBLIC OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMITTEE AND MAYBE WE JUST MAKE THAT MORE SPECIFIC, BUT IN SOME WAY. WE HAVE TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY.
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TED LIVINGSTON: IT'S A VERY VALID POINT TWO COREYS POINT TO REGARDING THE FOIL STATUE. I MEAN, A LOT OF STUFF MAYBE FOR A LEVEL THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF, I DON'T KNOW THAT THESE TED LIVINGSTON: SURVEYS IN THE RAW DATA FORM ON FOIBLE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT I'M CERTAINLY ON BOARD WITH TAKING TED LIVINGSTON: CONTROLLING MY BEHAVIOR. AND I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES WILL ON THIS COMMITTEE TO ENSURE THAT IDENTITIES AREN'T DISCLOSED AND THAT SENSITIVE INFORMATION IS NOT DISCLOSED.AMANDA YANNETT: YEAH, AND THEN. THAT'S WHY I GAVE THE EXAMPLES OF THE OTHER TOWNS. THAT'S IT, YEAH.
TED LIVINGSTON: YEAH YEAH COREY STARK: YEAH, AND WE WOULD DO THIS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PRODUCE LIKE YOU KNOW SO YOU KNOW GREG WAS TALKING ABOUT THE THE REDACTION I DON'T THINK ANY YOU KNOW COREY STARK: YOUR RESPONSE TO BANK ROBBERIES HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S COMES TO THAT, THAT IS, YEAH, THAT'S REDACTED WHOLESALE. I DON'T SEE WHY THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. SO, COREY STARK: I THINK IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE EASY TO SOLVE. AND SOLVE AND SHOULD BE SOLVED.
COREY STARK: QUICKLY, I'M MORE CONCERNED ACTUALLY ABOUT WHAT WAS RAISED BY JAMIE EARLIER BECAUSE I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THIS, AGAIN, IT SAYS THIS, THIS ISSUE OF WHAT THE COREY STARK: WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IT SAYS AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT AND FINALIZATION OF THE PLAN, THE EXECUTIVE ORDER REQUIRES THAT THE LOCAL LEGISLATURE LEGISLATURE ADOPT IN RATIFY THE PROPOSAL, HOW TO HOW TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
GUY DEMPSEY: AND IT ALSO SAYS PROVIDE THEM AS APPROPRIATE IS THE NEXT TWO WORDS AFTER YOUR PART, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GUY DEMPSEY: I'M LOOKING AT THE WORD YOURSELF.
COREY STARK: THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FOR THE RIDE THE COUNCIL.
COREY STARK: GUY. I'M LOOKING AT THIS, THERE IS NO AS APPROPRIATE HERE.
COREY STARK: I'M LOOKING TO BE 15 GUY DEMPSEY: WELL, WE COREY STARK: RATIFY THE PARK AND AT GUY DEMPSEY: THE SAME I'M LOOKING AT THE SAME THING. AND THERE ISN'T AS APPROPRIATE, NO LATER THAN EIGHT BEFORE THE WORDS NO LATER THAN APRIL 1 2021 COREY STARK: AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT AND FINALIZATION OF THE PLAN, THE EXECUTIVE ORDER REQUIRES THAT THE LOCAL LEGISLATURE LEGISLATURE ADOPT.
GUY DEMPSEY: JACKIE, THE BORDER, I BELIEVE, IS ON OUR WEBSITE. IF GUY DEMPSEY: IT ISN'T WE COREY STARK: LOOK AT STAKE. I'M LOOKING AT THE DANIEL LOVE: END EVEN THAT SAYS A PLAN, NOT THE PLAN. I THINK TED LIVINGSTON: YEAH.
PATRICK MCGOVERN: I HAVE A QUESTION. IS IT PERTAINS TO COREY STARK: IT SAYS THE PROPOSAL.
PATRICK MCGOVERN: INFORMATION. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEIR POLICIES, PROCEDURES, WOULD THAT INCLUDE TRAINING INFORMATION BECAUSE SOME OF THE SUB TOPICS REALLY FOCUS ON PATRICK MCGOVERN: AN ISSUE THAT SAYS, WELL, IF. HOW IS THAT INITIAL DEALT IN IN IN REAL LIFE. WELL, HOW ARE THEY TRAINED TO DEAL WITH AN ISSUE PERTAINING TO RACE OR GENDER OR SOMETHING. SO WILL WE BE AFFORDED THE ABILITY TO PATRICK MCGOVERN: LOOK AT THE TRAINING MANUALS.
GUY DEMPSEY: IF THE ANSWER IS YES.
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GUY DEMPSEY: I THINK THE ONE ALTERNATIVE TO JUST HANDING EVERYBODY A VERY LARGE BOOK WITH A LARGE SET OF REDACTIONS IS THE FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT YOU THINK ARE RELEVANT TO THIS TOPIC. SO YOU'RE DISCOVERING REGARD YOU'RE LOOKING INTO GUY DEMPSEY: FOR INSTANCE, IN THE EXECUTIVE ORDER. THEY DO MENTION BY NAME, USE OF FORCE POLICIES IMPLICIT BIAS AWARENESS TRAINING THE ESCALATION TRAINING AND PRACTICES.GUY DEMPSEY: I THINK SORT OF THE, THE FAIR AMOUNT OF DIALOGUE WHICH WE THINK WOULD BE NON CONTROVERSIAL IS GUY DEMPSEY: WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, DO WE HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES COVERING THOSE TOPICS, AND IF SO, CAN WE SEE THEM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF, THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY IMPLICIT BIAS AWARENESS TRAINING.
COREY STARK: EXCELLENT TABLE OF CONTENTS.
COREY STARK: BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY MIGHT BE A VERY INTERESTING GUY DEMPSEY: WAY OF GOING ABOUT THIS.
GUY DEMPSEY: RIGHT. AND IT'S A VERY HELPFUL SUGGESTION, PATRICK.
GUY DEMPSEY: JUMPING ON TOP OF ROB AND MAYBE WE'LL WRAP TABLE IF WE WEREN'T HERE.
ROB FALK: YEAH, YEAH, I CAN THAT. THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION. I COULD ROB FALK: END UP THE TABLE OF CONTENTS.
ROB FALK: OF DISTRIBUTE THAT AT SOME POINT TOMORROW TO THE COMMITTEE THROUGH THE CHAIR PEOPLE GUY DEMPSEY: I'M ROB DID JUST SEND ME THIS MORNING AND I HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH THEM ANYTHING USE OF FORCE POLICY AND DO A COUPLE OF OTHERS THAT WERE GUY DEMPSEY: SIMILAR LEVEL OF INTEREST.
TED LIVINGSTON: OKAY, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. YEAH.
JAMIE JENSEN: I JUST WANTED TO SAY.
TED LIVINGSTON: UM, I JUST WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON SOME OF THE VERY VALID POINTS THAT GUY AND OTHERS HAVE MADE, WHICH IS TED LIVINGSTON: I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY AS A COMMITTEE TREAT THE PROTOCOLS AND PROCEDURES.
TED LIVINGSTON: IN TOTAL, WE SHOULD BE CUSTOMIZING OUR REQUESTS FOR THIS STUFF.
TED LIVINGSTON: OR TO ADOPT THEM IN PART AND MAKE OTHER CHANGES THAT WE ANSWER OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT BASED ON EVIDENCE OR WHATEVER SPEAKING TOO LONG. AND I KNOW WE'RE COMING TO THE END HERE, BUT I JUST THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THAT MINDSET AS IT TED LIVINGSTON: AS IT APPLIES TO THE PROTOCOLS BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
JENN BOYLE: I JUST MAKE ONE. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'VE SAID TED AND AND THINK THAT'S COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE WHAT STRIKES ME AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS A WONDER IF THERE'S JENN BOYLE: YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT POLICY POLICY OFTEN IS MUCH MORE HIGH LEVEL AND BROADER AND THEN THERE'S PROTOCOLS AND OPERATIONALIZE JENN BOYLE: THOSE POLICIES. AND SO I WONDER IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OR MAYBE THERE ISN'T, AT THE MOMENT, PERHAPS, THAT SOMETHING TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR POLICY APPROACH TO AND YOUR OVERARCHING JENN BOYLE: WAY OF APPROACHING ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN EXISTENCE. AND THEN THERE'S THE OPERATION REALIZING, WHICH, WHEN YOU SAY WE OF COURSE WE DON'T WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO JENN BOYLE: DEAL WITH A BANK ROBBERY, YOU DON'T WANT TO. YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE BUT THERE SHOULD BE A, A SORT OF JENN BOYLE: MORE HIGH LEVEL POLICY AROUND SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE PULLED OUT OR TEASED OUT AT THE MOMENT BUT AND PERHAPS THAT'S NOT HOW HOW POLICE
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JENN BOYLE: DEPARTMENTS STRUCTURE IT BUT IT FEELS LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE PIECE THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO PUBLICIZE AND PUT OUT THERE IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY AND ALLOWING PEOPLE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOUR APPROACH IS LISA DOMINICI: I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S A I'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE SHARING INFORMATION TO THIS COMMITTEE IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS.LISA DOMINICI: I'VE HEARD THAT WE'RE SUCCESSFUL WE HAVE VERY SPECIFIC REQUESTS. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE DIFFERENT LISA DOMINICI: THE LISA DOMINICI: REQUEST INTO THE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW.
ANNE BIANCHI: WE'RE NOT ASKING ME ANNE BIANCHI: WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE, PERHAPS, TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
ROB FALK: SURE, WE COULD DO THAT FOR YOU. AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT IN THE BEGINNING OR RECEIVED THE SUMMARY FROM SERGEANT OUTLINE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THESE ROB FALK: THE FORMATION OF THE SOME OF THE COMMITTEE.
ANNE BIANCHI: I PROBABLY DO. I APOLOGIZE. A LOT OF MATERIAL.
ROB FALK: I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU RECEIVE THAT HE HAD A PRETTY GOOD OVERVIEW OF ROB FALK: SOME OF OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES MIXED IN AND SOMEWHAT HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OPERATES.
ROB FALK: YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY, THE EASY WAY WOULD BE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION WITH THE COMMITTEE IN SOME ROB FALK: AUDITORIUM SOMEWHERE. UNFORTUNATELY, WITH COVEN WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK AROUND THINGS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
GREG USRY: AS YOU MENTIONED, GREG USRY: OFFICER MINE, AS THE COMMITTEE WAS BEING FORMULATED TRIED TO TAKE THE ENTIRE SET OF GENERAL ORDERS AND CROSS REFERENCE THAT TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR EXECUTIVE ORDER.
GREG USRY: TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS OF OUR RIGHT GENERAL ORDERS.
GREG USRY: THAT CORRESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED AND THE ATTEMPT OF THAT WAS TO TRY NOT TO DUMP A MASSIVE VOLUME OF INFORMATION OUT THERE, BUT TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS ASKED US GREG USRY: AND ASKED THE COMMUNITIES. EACH FOCUS ON SO YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S A QUESTION OF HOW QUICKLY.
GREG USRY: YEAH, LOGISTICALLY, THE BIGGEST QUESTION.
PATRICK MCGOVERN: YEAH, I THINK IT'S BETTER TO GET THE THINGS WE NEED THEM TO TRY TO BE PERFECT AND SCOUR THE WHOLE THING. I MEAN, PATRICK MCGOVERN: ONCE I UNDERSTAND THAT TRANSPARENCY BUT YOU KNOW IF AN OVERARCHING THING IS TO PREVENT CRIME.
PATRICK MCGOVERN: AND ADDITION, HOW THEY RESPOND TO A ROBBERY I WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW THAT.
PATRICK MCGOVERN: OR TRAINING AS WELL AS TACTICAL, YOU KNOW, THEY MUST IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, THEY MUST ALL THOSE THINGS ARE APPROPRIATE AND I DON'T THINK THEY I DON'T THINK PATRICK MCGOVERN: THE POLICE WOULD HAVE ANY ISSUE RELEASING THEM. AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PUBLIC SAFETY. SO I THINK IF YOU GUYS CAN, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH THIS VOLUMINOUS STUFF AND GET US SOMETHING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
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GENEVIEVE WEBER: I AGREE. I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN HERE REAL QUICK BECAUSE THIS ACTUALLY RELATES A BIT TO WHAT WE ASKED EARLIER ABOUT THE DIRECTIONAL THING AROUND THE RESEARCH.GENEVIEVE WEBER: AND SO WHATEVER DATA WE FIND, WE'RE NOT GOING INTO THIS WITH EXPECTATIONS. WE'RE NOT SAYING GENEVIEVE WEBER: YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO FIND AND THEN LET'S LOOK AT THE DATE DATA AND SEE IF WE FIND IT.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: KIND OF LIKE WHAT JAMIE SAID EARLIER, WE'RE SIMPLY LOOKING AT IT AS IT AS IT AS AN ADDITIONAL DATA POINT. SHOULD WE, AND THIS IS RELATES TO WHAT PATRICK WAS SAYING, SHOULD WE FIND GENEVIEVE WEBER: THINGS THAT ARE OF INTEREST AROUND IDENTITY, THEN WE CAN PERHAPS PROPOSE TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT GOES BEYOND AN INITIAL KIND OF INVESTIGATIONAL STUDY THAT IT WOULD BE MORE DIRECTIONAL BECAUSE THEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING WE WANT TO DEVELOP AND LEARN SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. YEAH.
PATRICK MCGOVERN: IT COULD BE A MATTER OF, WELL, THERE IS THERE IS THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE IN THE TRAINING MANUAL. SO THAT'S GOOD. AND THEN IT MAY BE A MATTER OF PATRICK MCGOVERN: SHOULD IT BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY HANDLED DIFFERENTLY OR IS IT JUST NOT BEING IN HERE TOO. SO AT LEAST I AGREE WITH YOU IF YOU FIND SOMETHING, THEN YOU GO IN A DIRECTION AS OPPOSED TO STARTING OUT WITH A WITH A SPECIFIC DIRECTIONAL AGENDA. I AGREE. AND AMANDA YANNETT: LISA AND I DO YOU WANT US TO EMAIL YOU WITH ANY OF THE SPECIFIC AMANDA YANNETT: QUESTIONS OR SPECIFIC AREAS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE LISA DOMINICI: YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND I MEAN, I GUESS, I GUESS. FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T RECEIVED INFORMATION. LOOK AT WHAT YOU SENT US AND THEN AS MUCH AS YOU CAN BE SPECIFIC WILL COMPILE THAT INTO ONE DOCUMENT AND SEND THAT TO LIEUTENANT FOX AND GREG.
COREY STARK: YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET THAT OUT. LIKE YOU KNOW TOMORROW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHICH SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY, THEN THAT'S AN EASY STARTING POINT. IT'S ALSO AN EASY REQUEST. I WANT TO SEE THE, YOU KNOW, COREY STARK: POLICY, YOU KNOW, A, B AND C. RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH.
BEN STACKS: CAN COULD WE ALSO WORK ON A CALENDAR FOR THE GROUP. SO WE CAN, GIVEN OUR DISCUSSIONS EARLIER. SO WE CAN START WORKING BACK AND HAVE YOU KNOW DELIVERY DATES FOR, YOU KNOW, OUR SUBGROUPS SUBCOMMITTEES AND THEN KIND OF WORK THROUGH BEN STACKS: YOU KNOW JUST WHAT THE TIMING IS FOR ALL THIS BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE, I THOUGHT WE HAD MORE TIME THAN WE DID FRANKLY NOW. NOW WE'VE GOT TO BACK THIS UP BY A MONTH SO BEN STACKS: I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD SET SOME EXPECTATIONS FOR DELIVERY OF ALL THIS INFORMATION AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF WORK THROUGH HOW THAT PLAYS INTO WHAT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE AND YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO SCHEDULE ANY YOU KNOW SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
LISA DOMINICI: YES, YES, I THINK WE LISA DOMINICI: MAY AGREE ON THAT.
LISA DOMINICI: I KNOW THE END OF THE HOUR.
GUY DEMPSEY: AND I'D LIKE TO KEEP LIKE TO KEEP TO OUR SCHEDULE, IF POSSIBLE, BUT IF THERE ARE THERE ANY OTHER GUY DEMPSEY: POINTS OR COMMENTS, PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE RELATING TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED, CERTAINLY BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND CONSTRUCTIVE.
COREY STARK: THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CONFIDENTIALITY DISCUSSION. I THINK WE AS A COMMITTEE SHOULD COMMIT TO RETURNING OR DESTROYING DOCUMENTS WILL RECEIVE IF THERE'S ANY CONCERN ABOUT THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF THAT. SO WE USE IT FOR THIS PROJECT AND THEN RETURN OR DESTROY TED LIVINGSTON: OR LIKE THAT IDEA.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: I'M A BIG FAN OF DROPBOX.
GENEVIEVE WEBER: UNFORTUNATELY, GUY DEMPSEY: I THINK WE COULD WE CAN EXPLORE THE TECHNOLOGY BEHIND THE DISTRIBUTION, ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHAT WE DISTRIBUTED LISA DOMINICI: WELL, I MEAN, GREG, YOU PROBABLY HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT WE'D BE ABLE TO UTILIZE FOR THAT. WHAT WOULD THAT BE GREG USRY: YEAH, LET ME LET ME GET WITH NOGA AND SEE IF WE CAN JUST COME UP WITH A WITH A DROPBOX THAT HAS A DIRECTORY GREG USRY: AND THEN, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY BASICALLY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY IS REQUESTED, AS WELL AS THE TABLE OF CONTENTS AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO LET ME LET ME, LET US WORK ON THAT TODAY AND IT'S POSSIBLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE SET UP AND DISTRIBUTE COREY STARK: LET ME COREY STARK: JUST A COMPLICATED, A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU, GREG. I HAVE RECEIVED SOME RESPONSES AND DOCUMENTS FROM THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A MONTH AGO. SO THEN WHEN I THEN SEND THOSE TO US SO THAT THEY CAN PUT YOU PUT NOT RECEPTACLE OR GREG USRY: YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA. ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED, YOU CAN JUST AS MUCH AS I HATE TO SAY THIS, PLEASE SEND IT TO ME.
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GREG USRY: AND THEN WE'LL JUST ADD THAT TO THE COLLECTION OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE IN THE FOLDER. OKAY. OR MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE ROBBED SINCE YOU KNOW HE'S THE MOST TECHNICALLY PROFICIENT LET HIM DO IT.ROB FALK: MONEY WASN'T SO GOOD, BUT IT WAS FUN BEING OUT THERE IN THE WOODS.
TED LIVINGSTON: JAY JAY SAID.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.