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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, IT'S 630 JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF JANUARY 20 2021 BEFORE WE GET GOING, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: KNOW THAT WE REALIZED LATE YESTERDAY THE AMBER LIGHT OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAD TO EXPRESS OUR GREAT SYMPATHY FOR THOSE WHO'VE DIED FROM COVEN
[1. Roll Call]
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND AND ALSO FOR THEIR LOVED ONES. AND SO I THOUGHT WE MIGHT START WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE A MINUTE OF SILENCE TO EXPRESS OUR RESPECT FOR THE GREAT LOSS THAT SO MANY HAVE SUFFERED[2. Draft unapproved minutes of the Regular Meeting of the City Council held January 6, 2021.]
[3. Consideration of a petition from the Milton Harbor Foundation for a zoning text amendment to include a new special permit use for Civic and community center uses that could be applicable to the Wainwright House property (and potentially other sites) and would include water dependent recreational facilities.]
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU.JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN GODDARD.
SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HERE.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: AS A WOMAN, JOHNSON HERE COUNCILMAN MECCA.
RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: YEAH.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: THAT'S A WOMAN SOUZA, CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN STACKS.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YOUR COUNCIL WOMAN TARLOW CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: HERE THEY ARE CONE.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FIRST UP, WE HAVE THE DRIFT AND APPROVED MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL HELD JANUARY 6 2021 JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE MINUTES RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: LUXOR.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY. SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING IN THE CITY COUNCIL HILL JANUARY 6 2021 RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION IS TOMORROW.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TOO. I HEAR A SECOND JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU, BEN, I THINK YOU'RE MUTED VAN.
BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: INDEED, I AM SECOND.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AYE. AYE.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO NOW WE HAVE JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CONSIDERATION OF A PETITION FROM THE MILTON HARBOR FOUNDATION FOR ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE A NEW SPECIAL PERMIT USE JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FOR CIVIC AND COMMUNITY CENTER USES THAT COULD BE APPLICABLE TO THE WAINWRIGHT HOUSE PROPERTY AND POTENTIALLY OTHER SITES AND WOULD INCLUDE WATER DEPENDENT RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, KRISTEN, YOU MAY INTRODUCE KRISTEN WILSON: SURE. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, THIS EVENING. MILTON HARBOR FOUNDATION IS HERE TO PRESENT A PETITION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS THE CITY COUNCIL MAY RECALL, THIS IS ENTIRELY A DISCRETIONARY ACT ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S PART AND BECAUSE OF THAT.
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KRISTEN WILSON: MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS EVENING IS THAT WE ALLOW THE MILTON HARBOR FOUNDATION TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION, BUT THAT YOU DO NOT SOLICIT, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING KRISTEN WILSON: BUT THAT DUE TO THE COMMUNITY INTEREST THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THIS PETITION FOR OR AGAINST KRISTEN WILSON: THAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE PROVIDING IT WOULD BE BEST TO HAVE ALL THE COMMENTS IN WRITTEN FORM. SO, TOMORROW WE WILL PROVIDE A EMAIL.KRISTEN WILSON: WILL POST IT ON OUR WEBSITE AND WE'LL SEND IT OUT THROUGH THE LISTSERV AND ASK FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TO BE PROVIDED TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS THROUGH THIS EMAIL ADDRESS BY NEXT WEDNESDAY THE 27TH AT 5PM KRISTEN WILSON: AFTER WE'VE RECEIVED ALL THE COMMENTS WE WILL FOR THE COLLECT THEM AND FOR THEM TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AS TO WHAT'S NEXT STEPS, IF ANY, THE COUNCIL WISHES TO TAKE, BUT THAT THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT THIS EVENING WILL JUST BE THE PRESENTATION BY THE PETITIONER JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CHRISTIAN DO YOU SAID WE'LL NOTIFY PEOPLE OF THE SPECIFIC ADDRESS TO SEND THEIR COMMENTS TO BY WAY OF USING THE PUBLIC LISTSERV AND ALSO POSTING TO THE WEBSITE CITY WEBSITE.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO WE CAN DIRECT PEOPLE THERE TO GET THE RIGHT PLACE TO SEND THINGS YES AND AND WHAT ABOUT WE'VE WE'VE GOTTEN QUITE A BIT OF JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: EMAIL ALREADY SO JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I GUESS JUST BY WAY OF JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MAKING IT EASIER, THE PEOPLE WHO'VE ALREADY SENT THINGS PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO SEND AGAIN BECAUSE THOSE THINGS WILL ALREADY BE PART OF THE INFORMATION THAT WILL HAVE CORRECT. I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE THINK THEY HAVE TO RESEND IF THEY'VE ALREADY SENT SOMETHING TO US.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YEAH, AND AND COMMENTING ON THAT.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE'VE ALL RECEIVED A GREAT DEAL OF EMAIL, I THINK. AND MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FILTER THIS BUT I'M THINKING THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FIND A WAY TO FORWARD THAT TO THIS.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: EMAIL ADDRESS SO THAT IT'S ALL ALL IN ALL IN ONE PLACE. AND, OF COURSE, THAT PUTS A BURDEN ON EACH OF US AS WE GO THROUGH THAT FILE THAT IS TO RECOGNIZE WHAT WE'VE READ BEFORE AND WHAT WE HAVEN'T READ BEFORE WHICH MAY MAY BE PROBLEMATICAL BUT MOST OF WHAT I'VE RECEIVED HAS BEEN JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: VIRTUALLY ALL HAS GONE TO EVERYONE THAT IS GONE TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.
SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HAS STATED, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SENT HAS BEEN SENT TO ALL SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS SO WE COULD PUT WE COULD PUT THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN SENT ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND THEN GOING FORWARD, IT WOULD BE TO GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THIS NEW EMAIL ADDRESS, UNLESS UNLESS IT'S A I MEAN I THINK THAT WHAT THE INTENT WAS AND OBVIOUSLY WILL, WILL THE STAFF WILL TAKE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL IN THIS REGARD.
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: BUT THIS IS NOT YET, SINCE IT'S NOT YET A PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S NOT UP FOR CONSIDERATION. THE IDEA WAS TO SEND THE COUNCIL ONLY GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: ANY COMMENTS RECEIVED AND THEN ONCE YOU DECIDE WHAT FEATURE ACTION YOU WANT TO TAKE IF IN FACT IT GOES TO A PUBLIC HEARING, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, SET UP A SITE SPECIFICALLY TO HAVE ON DOCUMENTS COMMENTS, ETC, WHICH IS WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: KRISTEN, CAN I ASK YOU TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WHERE I HAVE PARTICIPATED ON THE ACTUAL FIRST PORTION OF WHETHER WE ARE PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: READY TO SEND IT TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND EVENTUALLY HERE, IT COULD YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH US AND FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS WHAT IS GOING ON.
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KRISTEN WILSON: 100% DISCRETION WHETHER YOU EVEN WANT TO CONSIDER IT WHETHER YOU EVEN WANT TO PUT IT ON AN AGENDA SO IT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED YOU HAVE RECEIVED SOME OPPOSITION TO IT.KRISTEN WILSON: IT IS NOW ON THE AGENDA FOR AN INITIAL PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT AFTER THE APPLICANT PRESENTS THIS EVENING, THE COUNCIL CAN DELIBERATE AND THINK OVER WHAT THEY'VE HEARD KRISTEN WILSON: THEY CAN ASK THE APPLICANT TO MODIFY THE PETITION OR YOU COULD SEND IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND COMMENTS, OR YOU COULD TABLE IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
KRISTEN WILSON: THE PLANNING COMMISSION THEN REVIEWS FOR A MONTH OR TWO, AND PROVIDES COMMENTS BACK KRISTEN WILSON: TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE PROPOSED ZONING PETITION. SOMETIMES THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. SOMETIMES THEY DO NOT KRISTEN WILSON: ULTIMATELY, IT WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU ARE THE ONLY ENTITY THAT HAS JURISDICTION AND THE AUTHORITY TO ADOPT IT. SO THEN WHEN IT COMES BACK TO YOU. YOU CAN HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO, UM, THE PROCESS THAT WE USE BEFORE YOU KNOW MY OBSERVATION IS THAT IT'S PRETTY PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ONEROUS ON THE DEVELOPER. AND IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE COULD POSSIBLY DO THIS IN A WAY THAT IS LESS ONEROUS. I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO DO THAT ON PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT GOING FORWARD, AT LEAST WITH THESE. SO I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION IS, I UNDERSTAND, WE'D HAVE TO SET THIS FOR PUBLIC HEARING. WE ALWAYS SEND IT TO PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE WE DO THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE THEY HELP IRON OUT THE LAW ITSELF IS THAT PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DON'T HAVE TO JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WRITE ME KRISTEN WILSON: LET ME MAKE SURE I JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: STAY ON. CAN I, CAN I JUST PIGGYBACK ON HER QUESTION BECAUSE MY UNDERSTOOD IT, BECAUSE I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE GOING THERE. PAM.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THIS, THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT IF I UNDERSTAND THEIR COURSES OF ACTION IS WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND THEY AFTER WE'VE HEARD THAT. AND WE'VE HAD A WEEK OF FEEDBACK FROM JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT AND OUTSIDE OF THOSE THAT ALREADY HAVE. WE COULD GET BACK TOGETHER NEXT MEETING AND DECIDE JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH, WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO REFER IT OR WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. WE DON'T WANT TO GRANT ZONING CHANGE OR WHATEVER. AND IT JUST SORT OF ENDS RIGHT JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THEN YOUR JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ALTERNATIVE WAY WE COULD SAY, YEAH, I'LL TELL US MORE SORT OF THING. RIGHT. AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT YOU KNOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO WEIGH IN ON IT.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN WHICH CASE IT WOULD BE REFERRED AND THEN YOU GO THROUGH THAT THE LINE OF THAT PAM'S TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF OPENING A PUBLIC HEARING. AND SO, BUT JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT THEORETICALLY, THIS COULD ALL JUST NOT GO ANYWHERE, AND THERE WOULD NEVER BE A PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE THIS BODY COULD POTENTIALLY NOT GRANT JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ZONING REQUESTS. RIGHT.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CORRECT. OKAY.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I WOULD SAY THAT IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THIS ZONING REQUEST COULD NOT WILL NOT GO ANYWHERE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM KNOW PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. IF THAT IS INDEED THE CASE. SO WHAT PROCESS SHOULD WE USE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT HOLDING THESE PEOPLE PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TO A STANDARD WHERE A YEAR FROM NOW, THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE HAVE TO CONTINUE FIVE TIMES TO DEAL WITH THE RESIDENTS AND PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD WE DO NOW FOR EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS AND GOOD GOVERNMENT TO PROVIDE THE BEST PLAN FOR THIS.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BECAUSE I, I HAVE SOME PRETTY STRONG FEELINGS, I SUSPECT, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE VERY STRONG FEELINGS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER, BUT I WOULD, I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER TAKING A AT LEAST A SAMPLE VOTE TO SEE IF WE EVEN WANT TO TAKE IT ANYWHERE FROM THERE. AND IF WE DO, THEN PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE CAN DECIDE STEP.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WILL DO NEXT WEEK, NEXT WEEK.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: PLEASE, IF I MAY. WE GET TO DECIDE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES, WHAT OUR ACTION WILL BE AND IT MIGHT BE, IT MIGHT BE OUTCOME DETERMINATIVE. AT THAT POINT, OR THERE MIGHT BE FURTHER JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FURTHER THOUGHT THAT WE WANT TO GIVE IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. BUT THE GOAL FOR THIS EVENING IS TO HAVE THE APPLICANTS PRESENTATION AND A GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO COLLECT FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC.
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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THIS IS A MATTER THAT HAS ATTRACTED A GREAT DEAL OF PUBLIC ATTENTION, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THEIR FEEDBACK AND TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE GO INTO OUR NEXT MEETING AS COUNSEL AND I WOULD LIKE US TO JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: COME TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH A VIEW TO AS ACCOUNTS WILL BEING READY TO DECIDE A DIRECTION.PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR, I, I, I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE US TO TO NOT MAKE THIS LIKE IT WAS FOR MR. DUNCAN AND HOW IT HAS BEEN FOR THE OSBORNE, I'D LOVE TO FIND WAYS TO BE PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MORE COGNIZANT OF WHAT THIS COST THEM. SO I WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BEYOND THE NEXT MEETING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING THE DEVELOPER A CHANCE TO SPEAK AND THEN WE CAN DELIBERATE SOME TONIGHT WE'LL GET MORE COMMENTS WILL DELIBERATE NEXT TIME. AND WE'LL VOTE AT THAT TIME. CORRECT.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WELL JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES, ASSUMING ASSUMING THAT WE ARE ALREADY. I WILL HOPE I WOULD HOPE WE WILL BE READING PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO WITH WITH THAT, IF, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD WOULD STEP UP TO THE BAR, SO TO SPEAK.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE WELCOME YOU JONATHAN D. KRAUT: GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CONE AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AS WELL CITY STAFF. MY NAME IS JONATHAN CROWD AND I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH THE LAW FIRM OF HARNESSED CROWD AND PERLSTEIN JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND OUR FIRM REPRESENTS THE PETITIONERS TO RIOTS TO TUITIONS ONE IS THE MILTON HARBOR FOUNDATION EGG IN CONJUNCTION WITH ROW AMERICA RYE.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: LEAVE US SPINNING OUR WHEELS IN AN EFFORT THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WE AGREE WITH THAT COMPLETELY JONATHAN D. KRAUT: ON THE OTHER HAND, I WOULD SHARE THAT HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN MANY SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES IN RYAN ELSEWHERE, BUT PARTICULARLY FOR A MOMENT IN RYE.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I CAN REMEMBER INSTANCES IN WHICH THINGS LIKE MOVING ROADS AND LARGE PROJECTS ETC WERE MET INITIALLY WITH VARYING DEGREES OF OF WELCOME BONUS JONATHAN D. KRAUT: OR ENCOURAGEMENT OR EVEN DISAGREEMENT FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND SOMETIMES MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND IN MANY OF THOSE INSTANCES, I HAVE SEEN THAT JONATHAN D. KRAUT: SOME OF THE RESISTANCE IS IT WOULD WOULD INTO AT TIMES BE BASED UPON MISUNDERSTANDINGS, MISS IMPRESSIONS.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: OR SIMPLY FLAWED LOGIC ON ONE PARTY'S PART OR ANOTHER AND HAVE RESULTED IN INSTANCES THAT WE COULD POINT TO WHERE PROJECTS WERE ULTIMATELY MOVED FORWARD AND MAYBE SOMETIMES JONATHAN D. KRAUT: SHAPED BY THE FINGERPRINTS OF THE COUNCIL, AS WELL AS SOMETIMES THE PLANNING COMMISSION IMPROVING UPON IDEAS THAT WERE PRESENTED SO SO THAT'S SORT OF MY SEGUE INTO SAYING I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH JONATHAN D. KRAUT: YOUR LEARNER COUNCIL MISS WILSON, THAT IT'S A DISCRETIONARY ACT WHEN AN APPLICANT COMES WITH A PETITION, SUCH AS OURS.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND IT IS ONE OF THOSE INSTANCES WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. YOU CAN CHOOSE TO DO NOTHING AND THINGS CAN DIE ON THE VINE AND I APPRECIATE JONATHAN D. KRAUT: COUNCILMAN CARLOS COMMENT ABOUT NOT SIMPLY LEAVING IT TO FLAT OUT THERE, BUT LET'S SEE WHETHER THIS HAS TRACTION OR NOT.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THROUGH ZOOM OBVIOUSLY FOR ALL OF US VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE'VE HAD PUBLIC MEETINGS WHERE JONATHAN D. KRAUT: MOST OFTEN ORAL PRESENTATIONS ARE THE MOST HELPFUL WHEN I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT.
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JONATHAN D. KRAUT: OUR ASK IF YOU WILL, WOULD BE THAT PETITION BE PROCESSED IN THE SAME FASHION AT WHICH YOU HAVE FOR AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN RYE AND THAT IS IF YOU BELIEVE IT HAS EVEN THE PROSPECT OF GAINING YOUR MAJORITY APPROVAL.JONATHAN D. KRAUT: FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND AS YOUR RESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBER ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN ATTEST, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OFTEN VERY FAMILIAR WITH DELVING INTO THE DETAILS OF. SO THAT BEING SAID, AS AS A LEAD IN JONATHAN D. KRAUT: SINCE OUR, OUR PETITION IS A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD AND WE ARE KEENLY AWARE THAT MANY INTERESTED RESIDENTS HAVE READ IT.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND AND SO IN ESSENCE THIS PETITION IS TO AMEND THE ZONING TEXT IN THE CITY ARRIVED TO CREATE A NEW USE CATEGORY AND THAT USE CATEGORY WOULD BE FOR CIVIC AND COMMUNITY CENTER USE JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IT IS INTENDED TO ENCOMPASS THE CURRENT USES OF WAINWRIGHT AND ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY FOR FUTURE SIMILAR USES IT WOULD ALSO JONATHAN D. KRAUT: DEPENDENT RECREATIONAL FACILITIES FOR NON MOTORIZED CRAFT, OBVIOUSLY, IN THIS INSTANCE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ROWAN.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND DOC AT THE WAINWRIGHT HAS THAT COULD BE USED FOR THE ROWING CLUB, BUT COULD ALSO BE USED BY WAYNE RIGHT TO MOVE WEDDINGS INDOOR AND ELIMINATE THE OUTDOOR TENSE, WHICH HAVE SEASONALLY BEEN THE SUBJECT OF JONATHAN D. KRAUT: UNHAPPINESS BY SOME FOLKS AND I COULD PERSONALLY ATTEST LIVING QUITE A DISTANCE FROM IT THAT YOU CAN HEAR THE OUTDOOR NOISE WHEN THERE ARE WEDDINGS GOING ON FROM QUITE FAR AWAY. AND ANYONE WHO'S IN GREEN HAVEN COULD ALSO ATTEST TO THAT AS WELL.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AT THE OUTSET WE HAD PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH A PROFESSIONAL STAFF IN THE CITY. WE ALSO LOOKED INTERNALLY ON OUR TEAM TO CONSULTANTS, WITH REGARD TO FEASIBILITY AND JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I'M NOT GOING TO BORE THE COUNCIL WITH IT. BUT THERE ARE ARGUMENTS THAT CERTAINLY COULD BE MADE UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING CODE IN RYE, THAT THIS MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE SHOEHORNED INTO A PARTICULAR JONATHAN D. KRAUT: CATEGORY AND PROCESS, BUT I THINK GIVEN THE BROAD INTEREST, WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. IT MADE MOST SENSE TO DO IT IN AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT MANNER THAT IS TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL TO EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO DO.
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JONATHAN D. KRAUT: TWO ACRES IN TOTAL. A LANDMASS ALTHOUGH OBVIOUSLY THE THE WAY RIGHT PROPERTIES QUITE A BIT BIGGER THAN THAT.JONATHAN D. KRAUT: HAS BEEN MODIFIED AT THE REQUEST OF THE THE LEGISLATIVE BODY YOURSELF SOMETIMES AT THE REQUEST OF THE PUBLIC OR BASED ON COMMENTS AND SOMETIMES AT THE REQUEST OF JONATHAN D. KRAUT: PLANNING OR PROFESSIONAL STAFF. AND SO WHILE OUR PETITION IS OUR FIRST STEP TO FILE WITH YOU, PRESUMING JUST FOR A MOMENT THAT THE PUBLIC PROCESS PLAYS ITSELF OUT.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THE ACTUAL LAW THAT YOU MIGHT ULTIMATELY VOTE ON MIGHT BE DIFFERENT IN MATERIAL RESPECTS FROM THE ONE THAT WE FILE WITH YOU. AND I POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I'M NOT GOING TO PRESUPPOSE WHAT COMMENTS WILL COME INTO THE OFFICIAL RECORD, BUT OBVIOUSLY I'VE HAD THE BENEFIT OF SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH INTERESTED PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW SOME, ALTHOUGH PERHAPS NOT ALL WHAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED COLLECTIVELY OR INDIVIDUALLY TO PROFESSIONAL STAFF AT THE CITY AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SOME OF THEM ARE BASED UPON JONATHAN D. KRAUT: SOME POSITIONS AND ONE OF THEM. AND IT'S AN UNDERSTANDABLE. ONE IS THAT THE LAW MIGHT BE PASSED EXACTLY AS IT IS, AS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND WE ARE KEENLY AWARE THAT THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A DISCRETIONARY FUNCTION. ONE OF MY FAVORITE SAYINGS WHEN ADVISING JONATHAN D. KRAUT: LEGISLATIVE BODIES ON REZONING IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. I MEAN, QUITE FRANKLY, YOU DIDN'T EVEN NEED TO PUT IT ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I THINK THAT RYE HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN A COMMUNITY THAT HAS GIVEN EVERYONE A FAIR SHAKE TO PRESENT THEIR IDEAS, WHETHER, WHETHER THEY'RE MET WITH JONATHAN D. KRAUT: APPLAUSE OR RESISTANCE. AND SO ALL WE'RE ASKING IS THAT YOU DO THAT. WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IN COMMENT I'M CERTAINLY WE COULD JONATHAN D. KRAUT: ANSWER QUESTIONS OR HYPOTHETICALS. MY SUGGESTION IN TERMS OF PROCESS TO THE COUNCIL IS THAT YOU DO EXACTLY AS YOU SAID YOU TAKE IN WHATEVER COMMENTS. THERE ARE ON OUR PETITION, WHICH IS PUBLIC RECORD MY PRESENTATION, WHICH I THINK EXPLAINED VERY SIMPLY, WHAT WHAT IS BEING SOUGHT JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND GET THE COMMENTS AND AND THEN JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IF WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT IS OFTEN A VERY HELPFUL THING TO DO.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: FOR INSTANCE, I'LL JUST MAKE THIS UP SOMEONE ON THE COUNCIL COULD EASILY ASKED, WELL, IF YOU DID THIS, WHERE WOULD YOU EXACTLY PUT THE DOC OR WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE OR HOW LONG WOULD IT BE OR JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WHERE WOULD A CAR PULL IN, OR WHERE WOULD A PASSENGER DISCHARGE. AND WHAT I WOULD SUBMIT IS JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I WOULDN'T COME TO YOU AT THIS STAGE, WITHOUT INFORMATION THAT'S CLEARLY PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WOULD BE ANSWERED IN SPECIFIC DOWN THE LINE, BUT AT THE INITIAL PHASE, IF THE COUNCIL HAS A MIND TO CONSIDER THE PROCESSING THE APPLICATION FURTHER AND HEAR THE COMMENTS AND WE COME BACK.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WHAT I THINK THE COUNCIL WOULD BE DOING IS LOOKING AT THE DESIRABILITY AND THE FEASIBILITY OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING JONATHAN D. KRAUT: YOU KNOW, IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND, AGAIN, I MENTIONED IT THAT THESE ARE TWO USES THAT ALREADY EXIST IN RYE WAYNE RIGHT AND ROLLING THE MILTON FACILITY OBVIOUSLY HAS RESIDENTIAL USERS, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. IT HAS RESIDENTIAL USES RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: BUT THOSE OF US KNOW HISTORICALLY THAT RIGHT THROUGH ITS LW RP AND OUR INTEREST IN UTILIZING THE WATERFRONT HAS ALWAYS MADE THAT PART OF THE JONATHAN D. KRAUT: LEGISLATIVE RUBRIC THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION LOOK AT. AND IN FACT, REALLY A SOLID NINE IRON A WAY JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WE HAVE THE DARLIN SCOUT CENTER PROP PROPERTY WHICH FOR YEARS AND AND AND IT MAKES ME FEEL OLD TO SAY IT AS A KID. IT'S WHERE I LEARNED TO SAIL AND CANOE AND ROW.
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JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IT WAS ACTUALLY A FULL BLOWN AQUATIC CENTER THAT OPERATED THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER AND THAT WAS A RESOURCE THAT, SADLY, WHEN THE BOY SCOUTS FOUND IT FINANCIALLY INFEASIBLE.JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND SO IT IS SOMETHING I WOULD AGAIN ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT FROM BOTH AND LW RP STANDPOINT AND A HISTORICAL STANDPOINT THAT THERE IS A DESIRE FOR THAT ROWING ACTIVITY FOR THAT AQUATIC ACTIVITY AND IT IS BASED BAKED INTO JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THE, THE LEGISLATIVE MANDATES THAT RYAN HAS CARRIED TO CONSIDER WATER DEPENDENT USES AND WATER ENHANCED USES AND OBVIOUSLY WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT MORE AS THE PROCESS.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: GOES FORWARD, AND THAT THE ROWING ACTIVITY IS ALREADY TAKING PLACE OUT THROUGH THE BOAT BASIN, ETC. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, JONATHAN D. KRAUT: MR. MAYOR. I DON'T WANT TO DELVE TOO FAR INTO MY NEW SHOW, I WANTED TO GIVE THE COUNCIL A TASTE OF THE APPLICANTS VIEW ON WHAT IT IS WE'RE ASKING FOR JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE ON THE SUGGESTION PROCESSES. I THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE. WE WOULD ULTIMATELY BE ASKING IF IT'S PREMATURE THIS MEETING. THAT MAKES SENSE.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: FOR YOU TO REFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO THAT YOU AS AS THE MEMBERS THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY BE MAKING A DECISION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WOULD HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S COLLECTIVE KNOWLEDGE AND ADVICE WITH REGARD TO JONATHAN D. KRAUT: A CHANGE TO USE A ZONING CHANGE APPLICATIONS SUCH AS SUCH AS THIS ONE.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND IT'S IT'S JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: STRUCT STRUCTURAL BUT NOT WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPERTY, YOU MENTIONED ROW AMERICA AND AN INTERMEDIARY, NOT FOR PROFIT BUT ROW AMERICA, AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS A FOR PROFIT ENTITY. COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE, THE, THERE'S THE STRUCTURE THAT YOU PROPOSE AND THE REASON FOR IT.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: SURE, SO FIRST OFF, AS I MENTIONED, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING PROPOSAL, AS WE'VE HAVE PUT IT FORTH JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WOULD BE THAT THE PRIMARY PURPOSE WOULD REMAIN NOT FOR PROFIT AND TO MAKE THAT QUITE CLEAR WAINWRIGHT IS NOT FOR PROFIT MELTON HARBOR FOUNDATION IS ALSO NOT FOR PROFIT.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND IS OFTEN THE CASE WITH NOT FOR PROFITS. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT EVEN JONATHAN D. KRAUT: RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS THAT MIGHT HIRE. THEY'RE CLEARLY A RELIGIOUS USE JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THEY MIGHT HIRE A CATERING COMPANY, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVED KITCHENS AND A DINING HALL OR BANQUET HALL. THEY MIGHT HIRE A FOR PROFIT CATER TO COME IN AND RUN THAT OPERATION AND SO JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THE THOUGHT PROCESS WOULD BE THAT DON'T HARBOR FOUNDATION, WHICH IS A NOT FOR PROFIT WOULD ULTIMATELY BE LOOKING TO ROW AMERICA I IT WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE THE RIGHT IF I WANTED TO DO YOU SOMEONE ELSE TO ADMINISTER THE, THE ROMAN OFFERINGS THAT WOULD BE GIVEN THERE.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS JUNCTURE.
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CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO IT WOULD BE THE ONLY OPERATION THAT THE PRINCIPAL ALWAYS RUNNING THESE WAY. AND WHEN WAS THE MILTON HARBOR FOUNDATION STARTED AND WHO ARE THE WHO'S ON THE BOARD.PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION, MR. MAYOR.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND MY DOG BARKS AT THE SAME TIME. UM, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE INTENSITY OF THE USE IN THE AT THE BASE IN AT THE BOAT BASIN, HOW LARGE A FACILITY. DO YOU HAVE PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT IS THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ROLE. AMERICA HAS AND WHAT DO THEY PERCEIVE WILL BE THE NUMBER AT THE NEW SITE BECAUSE CLEARLY THEY'RE EXPANDING. THAT'S WHY THEY WANT TO MOVE RIGHT JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I WOULD SAY FIRST OF ALL THAT THE CURRENT LOCATION IS INSUFFICIENT FOR THE EXISTING ENROLLMENT. SO THE PURPOSE IS TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT'S THERE, MORE SO THAN THEN AN EXPANSION, PER SE, WITH REGARD TO THE JONATHAN D. KRAUT: QUANTITATIVE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION AND NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS ETC WILL OFTEN GET YOU THAT THAT ANSWER. I DON'T HAVE IT OFF TOP MY HEAD.
SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHAT IS THE WHY WOULDN'T ROW AMERICA RYE JUST TEAM UP WITH WAYNE. RIGHT. SO WHY IS IT, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE, I GUESS OF MILTON HARBOR FOUNDATION. BECAUSE ISN'T ROW AMERICA RY GOING TO BE WORKING WITH WAYNE. RIGHT. SO I GUESS I JUST SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND.
SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY. PURPOSE OF MELTON HARPER FOUNDATION JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THE PURPOSE OF KNOWN HARBOR FOUNDATION IS ESSENTIALLY AN INTERMEDIARY PARTNER WITH THE WIND RIGHT HOUSE FOR THE PURPOSE OF SETTING UP A ROWAN PROGRAM IN CONJUNCTION WITH WAINWRIGHT HOUSE THE OPERATION OF IT WOULD WOULD LIKELY BE CONTRACTED OUT. DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS I COULD PROBABLY GIVE A LITTLE THOUGHT TO THAT AND GIVE YOU AN ANSWER, OR MAYBE PERHAPS IN THE END IT'S NOT DONE THAT WAY. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE REQUEST TO THE COUNCIL FOR THE REZONING JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT IF WE TOOK IF WE TOOK IT AS A SUGGESTION. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU'RE MAKING THE SUGGESTION. AND WE SAID, OKAY, LET'S HAVE THEM CONTRACT DIRECTLY AND LET'S YOU KNOW LET'S FIGURE THAT OUT.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THAT WOULD NOT CHANGE THE USE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE SEEKING JONATHAN D. KRAUT: ALMOST VERY SIMILAR TO IF I SAID THAT IN DOWNTOWN. RIGHT. I WANT TO PUT UP A FIVE STOREY APARTMENT BUILDING.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: PARKING OCCUPANTS SEWAGE LOAD TRAFFIC DELIVERY NOT NOTHING WOULD CHANGE. SO I THOUGHT, WELL, LAND USE PURPOSE. I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT THAT'S THE FOCUS SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, NO, I JUST, I WAS JUST CURIOUS AND AND THEN WHILE I'M AT IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION. YOU HAD MENTIONED THE POSSIBILITY THAT WITH THE PHONE ROSE HOUSE IF IT'S REFURBISHED OR RECREATED SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY FOR SPACE TO DO INDOOR WEDDINGS. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE SORT OF THE DEMAND FOR INDOOR WEDDINGS, I WOULD SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I GUESS IT'S KIND OF HARD BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HYPOTHETICAL, BUT I SUSPECT THAT THE THAT THE ATTRACTION OF WAINWRIGHT POOR WEDDINGS IS THE OUTDOOR VIEW AND THE OUTDOOR COMPONENT SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT IT WOULD JUST SORT OF BE INTERESTING TO KIND OF GET IT A PERSPECTIVE ON THAT AND WHETHER THERE WOULD BE A DEMAND FOR TRULY INDOOR WEDDINGS.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: SO, SO IF I'M NOT JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: POSSIBLE RIGHT JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IF I JUST ANSWER THAT. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND I DON'T WANT TO DELVE TOO FAR INTO THE DETAILS OFF THE CUFF. BUT ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE HOME AND
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JONATHAN D. KRAUT: HERE'S WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS THAT IT AND I THINK WOULD BE VERY ACCURATE TO SAY THAT THE SARAH, YOU KNOW, WEDDINGS, AS WE ALL KNOW ARE PRIMARILY THE THE CEREMONIAL PORTION OF THE MARRIAGE ITSELF AND THEN TYPICALLY FOLLOWED BY THE EATING, DRINKING, DANCING AND FUN.JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WHAT IS HISTORICALLY MADE WAYNE RIGHT SUCH A WONDERFUL PLACE TO HAVE A WEDDING.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IS FOR THE CEREMONIAL PORTION, THE JONATHAN D. KRAUT: VERY SPECIAL VIEW THE PROMINENT PIECE OF LAND THE SERENITY OF THE GROUNDS AND THOSE CEREMONIES HAVE TO MY KNOWLEDGE REALLY NOT BEEN THE SUBJECT OF COMPLAINTS, THEY TEND TO BE JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THE LOUDEST PART IS USUALLY THE THE CLAPPING, OR IF THERE'S A BREAKING OF THE GLASS OR SOMETHING AT THE END THAT A YELLOW TO JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THAT THE CEREMONY ITSELF IS USUALLY QUITE QUIET, AS WE ALL KNOW, IT'S THE CELEBRATION PORTION WHERE THERE IS AMPLIFIED MUSIC OR SINGING, ETC. THAT SEEMS TO OBVIOUSLY JUST START PEOPLE'S JONATHAN D. KRAUT: QUIET, IF YOU WILL.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND REQUIRES STRIKING A BALANCE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL ASPECTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE WATER DEPENDENT JONATHAN D. KRAUT: CLUB AND NOT FOR PROFIT ASPECTS OF IT. SO WHAT ACTUALLY HAS HAPPENED IS, OVER THE YEARS, THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THE NUMBER OF WEDDINGS HAS BEEN LIMITED BECAUSE IF JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THE WAY RIGHT HOUSE WAS LEFT TO TAKE TAKE IT BASED ON A DEMAND, AND THIS GOES TO YOUR QUESTION ON A DEMAND BASIS.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: TENDS TO CARRY ON AFTER SUNSET WHEN THE USE OF THE GROUNDS AND REALLY THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A WEDDING THERE RATHER THAN AT A CATERING HALL OR SOMEONE ELSE HAS ITS LOWER ARE KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK WHAT'S WHAT'S ENVISIONED IS JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THERE WOULD STILL BE THE ABILITY FOR FOLKS WHO WANTED TO HAVE A WEDDING. IN OTHER WORDS, LET ME SAY IT'S SIMPLY THIS WOMEN'S GUARD IS THAT THE JONATHAN D. KRAUT: ATTRACTION TO ACTUALLY GETTING MARRIED. THERE IS TYPICALLY THE VIEW FOR THE CEREMONY AND THAT ASPECT OF IT.
CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THEN JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. I HAVE ON THE APPROACH TO FRAMING THESE OPERATION AS A CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: COMMUNITY AND CIVIC CENTER. CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I'LL BE HONEST, I'M NOT SURE THAT I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. I MEAN, CLEARLY THE WAINWRIGHT HOUSE HAS OPERATED. I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF ACTIVITY, SOME OF WHICH YOU MAY HAVE JONATHAN D. KRAUT: PARTICIPATED IN THERE, OVER THE YEARS, WHETHER IT'S POETRY READING OR MEDITATIONS OR RELIGIOUS MEETINGS OR YOGA, ETC. SO I THINK THAT ALL OF THOSE FUNCTIONS WITHIN OUR PETITION ARE WELL CONTEMPLATED TO CONTINUE. I'M NOT SURE. MAYBE THAT ANSWERS IT.
CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW HOW, HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO A COMMUNITY CENTER.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WELL, I MEAN CERTAINLY THOSE WHO HAVE PARTICIPATED IN JONATHAN D. KRAUT: ROWING AS A SPORT OR SIMILAR SPORTS.
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I THINK HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING THAT THE THE JONATHAN D. KRAUT: MOT MIND BODY SPIRIT CONNECTION IN THAT TYPE OF SPORT, WHICH IS REALLY
[4. Update on the City’s Capital Improvement Program.]
JONATHAN D. KRAUT: ENDURANCE AND ATHLETIC IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY DOES KIND OF FIT INTO THE HOLISTIC OBJECTIVES THAT WAINWRIGHT HAS ALWAYS HAD, IT MAY NOT HAVE HAD ROWING THERE, BUT CERTAINLY THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY FITS KIND OF WITHIN WITH IT WITHIN THAT IDEA.JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO THANKS VERY MUCH, MR CROWD.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WILL WE WILL DELIBERATE
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JONATHAN D. KRAUT: VERY WELL. AND WE WILL TAKE THE QUESTIONS YOU'VE PRESENTED UNDER ADVISEMENT. OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE ARE OTHERS THAT JONATHAN D. KRAUT: YOU WANT TO CONVEY TO US THROUGH PROFESSIONAL STAFF WILL HAVE EARS ON THEM AND ATTEMPT TO COME BACK WITH ANSWERS AND CERTAINLY WILL KEEP AN EYE ON WHATEVER SUBMITTED TO YOU SO THAT WE CAN WE CAN RESPOND JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANKS AGAIN.JONATHAN D. KRAUT: OKAY, THANK YOU ALL HAVE A VERY NICE EVENING.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO NOW WE GET TO GO ON TO THE UPDATE ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. AND BEFORE I INVITE JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: GREG AND JOE TO JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TO TAKE OVER. I JUST LIKE A WORD OR TWO OF INTRODUCTION, NOBODY HAS ASKED ME ABOUT MY BACKGROUND TONIGHT.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WHICH I THINK TAKES TERRIFIC FORBEARANCE ON THE PART OF OTHERS ON THE COUNCIL, BUT I AM NOT ACTUALLY THERE. FORTUNATELY, GIVEN THE TEMPERATURE, BUT THIS IS JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE BACK OF ONE OF THE GARAGES AT DESBOROUGH JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT WE WOULD BE REPAIRING AND I THOUGHT IT USEFUL TO HAVE THIS PICTURE IS BACKGROUND TO EXPLAIN THE KIND OF WORK THAT IT IS WE HAVE FOUND, WE NEED TO DO. SO WHEN I BEGAN AND OTHERS ON THIS COUNCIL BEGAN IN JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE LEARNED WITH ALARM OF THE DETERIORATED CONDITION OF CITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THERE WILL BE A FINANCIAL PLAN THAT THE CITY STAFF WILL PRODUCE AND THAT WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE THIS EVENING THE THERE IS A BASIC FINANCIAL ABSTRACT JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY $22 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS WE WILL HAVE SUBSTANTIAL GRANT ASSISTANCE WITH THAT. SO THE ACTUAL CITY SHARE IS ANTICIPATED TO BE ABOUT $15 MILLION. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT SPLIT JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT SPLIT INDICATED AS WE GO THROUGH THE MATRIX THAT STAFF HAS PUT TOGETHER. THERE WAS A CITY SHARE AS OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT TOTAL WHICH WILL GIVE AN INDICATION OF WHAT THE GRANT CONTRIBUTION IS JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO I HOPE THAT'S HELPFUL. BACKGROUND AND GREG CHRISTIAN AND JOE, PLEASE HELP US MOVE THROUGH THIS JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YOU'RE MUTED, GREG.
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THAT WAS HELPFUL BEFORE BUT NOT NOW. SO THANK YOU. I'M GONNA JUST TAKE A MINUTE AND KICK THINGS OFF. AND THEN MOST OF TONIGHT IS REALLY GOING TO BE SPENT WITH CHRISTIAN GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: GOING THROUGH KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW, BUT JUST LET ME GIVE YOU, AND YOU'VE COVERED SOME OF THIS, BUT JUST LET ME HIT A COUPLE OF POINTS.
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: YOU KNOW, IN THE YEARS THAT IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED THE RECESSION. THE CITY REALLY WAS NOT ABLE FINANCIALLY TO PROPERLY REINVEST GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: IN THE, IN THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE THE REBOUND THAT WE'VE HAD FINANCIALLY IN THE LAST FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS HAS REALLY ALLOWED US TO BEGIN AGGRESSIVELY MAKING PLANS WITH OPERATIONALLY AND FINANCIALLY TO MAKE UP FOR THIS LAST TIME.
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GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THE, THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED AND WERE IDENTIFIED BY THE PRIOR COUNSEL, ARE, ARE THE INITIAL FOCUS, BUT AS YOU SAW IN MY COVER MEMO.GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WITH THIS AGENDA PACKAGE. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO AND ALWAYS ARE AND WILL CONTINUE TO CREEP UP GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THAT BECOME PRIORITIES AND I USE FOR EXAMPLE THE STATUE AND FIREMAN CIRCLE THAT CERTAINLY WAS NOT IN OUR PLANNING A YEAR AGO, AND THAT IS IN THE CURRENT PLAN AND WE'RE MOVING THROUGH YOU KNOW WITH THAT AS WELL.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WELL, GREG. GREG, IF I, IF I MAY POINT OUT ANOTHER ONE, OF COURSE, THERE'S THE RENOVATION THAT WAS DONE AT JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AT AT RYE RACK, WHICH WAS COMPLETELY ON ANTICIPATED AND WHICH PROVED TO BE A OR REQUIRE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH.
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THOUGH I GUESS THE LAST COUPLE POINTS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, CHRISTIAN IS GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS AT A HIGH LEVEL TONIGHT. THIS IS NOT MEANT TO GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: DIVE INTO PLANS AND DRAWINGS, BUT RATHER TO GIVE THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY AND OVERVIEW OF WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ACCOMPLISHED, AND THEN THE RAPID AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING TO TAKE GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: PLACE THIS YEAR AND THE ACTIVITY THAT'S THAT THE COUNCIL WILL BE ASKED TO TO TAKE AS IT RELATES TO THE LETTING OF CONTRACTS AND THE BEGINNING OF OF ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO, THANK YOU. OKAY.
CHRISTIAN CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: OKAY, THANKS FOR THAT INTRODUCTION. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS, NONE OF THIS SHOULD BE NEW TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: CAN YOU SEE A SLIDESHOW.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: OKAY, SO I CAN'T SEE ANYBODY. THIS IS LIKE TALKING IN THE IN THE DARK. SO CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SPEAK UP. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: QUICKLY GOING THROUGH THE THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THE PRIORITY PROJECTS, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED IN THE COUNCIL PACKET AND THE AGENDA PACKET FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL. WE HAVE IN MORE DETAIL THE VARIOUS TASKS.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SHOWN IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY COMPLETELY REMOVED AND REBUILT IN THE SAME LOCATION, IT WOULD BE A TWO STORY BUILDING IT WOULD HAVE GARAGE SPACE UNDERNEATH ADMINISTRATIVE CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: FACILITIES ABOVE THAT ARE LACKING AT PUBLIC WORKS. THIS IS A VERY OLD BUILDING. IT'S VERY WELL PASSAGE USABLE LIFE AND IT NEEDS MORE THAN JUST A FACELIFT.
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CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SO THIS WHERE WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY BUILD A NEW SALT SHED IN THIS ONE WOULD EVENTUALLY BE REMOVED THE NEW SALT SHED WOULD NOT BE THIS SORT OF CONE DESIGN. THEY DON'T DO THIS KIND OF DESIGN ANYMORE.CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: ALSO HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS OR A LIST OF SEWER PROJECTS. THIS WAS PART OF A LARGER STUDY CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THE ESSAYS YES IMPLEMENTATION IS ALSO PART OF A SETTLEMENT WITH SAVE THE SOUND AND OTHER ENTITIES. I DON'T KNOW THE LEGAL STUFF REAL WELL IF YOU NEED BACKGROUND ON THAT. KRISTEN, CAN PROVIDE THAT CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: BUT AS A RESULT OF THAT SETTLEMENT. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF IMPORTANT PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE WORKS. THIS IS THE LOCUST AVENUE SEWER SIPHONED BYPASS THIS WOULD PUT US NEW SEWER LINE ACROSS BLIND BROOK.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: OR THE CBD, THE COURSE. I'M A JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CHRISTIAN AS A SIPHON IS A BUMP.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YEAH. YES, IT'S SORT OF CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: HOW DO I DESCRIBE IT WITHOUT USING MY HANDS. THE IT'S IT'S A WAY IN WHICH SEWAGE CAN ESSENTIALLY GO UPHILL UP LINE BECAUSE OF THE PRESSURE THAT'S PROVIDED, BUT IT IS NOT IN A SERVICEABLE LOCATION, IT'S ACTUALLY CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SUBSTANTIALLY UNDER THE BRIDGE ABUTMENT FOR LOCUST. AND SO THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO REPLACE IT. JUST A BYPASS WAS REALLY ACTUALLY A BRILLIANT SOLUTION.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: WE ALSO HAVE THE REPORT FORCE MAIN PROJECT CENTRAL AVENUE PUMP STATION THE COUNCIL'S WELL AWARE OF THAT. WE HAVE THE MIDDLE AND AVENUE SEWER REPLACEMENT HIGHLAND ROAD SEWER LINING AND THEN FURTHER DOWN THE LINE. MISCELLANEOUS MANHOLE AND SEWER LINE REHABILITATIONS. THE PURPOSE OF THESE CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THE PURPOSE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT PROJECT IS REALLY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF INFLOW AND INFILTRATION INTO THE SEWER AND DRAIN SEWER LINES.
AND CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU CAN SEE BE PLACING IN THIS PICTURE. SOME OF THE CRACKED CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU KNOW, SEWER LINES AND LINING THEM AND FIXING MANHOLES CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: FINALLY, WE HAVE MISCELLANEOUS PROJECTS.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: ONE IS THE CITY HALL HBA SEE CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND THAT IS A VERY OLD SYSTEM IT'S INEFFICIENT. IT'S NOT ENERGY SENSITIVE CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND IS WELL OVERDUE WELL PAST ITS USEFUL LIFE REQUIRES A GREAT DEAL OF MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONALLY CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: I CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK BECAUSE IT'S OPPOSED TO HAVING WORKED IN THAT BUILDING FOR 20 YEARS CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THE THEATER. OUR FRIEND WALL IS A PROJECT THAT THE CITY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD ON, IT'S, IT'S VERY COMPLEX PROJECT, BUT WE FEEL AFTER MANY YEARS IT'S GETTING CLOSER TO ACTUALLY STARTING CONSTRUCTION GETTING FINAL APPROVALS FROM A LARGE NUMBER OF OF CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AGENCIES AND UTILITY PROVIDERS THAT ALL HAPPENED TO COALESCE IN THIS ONE LOCATION WHERE THE WALL FAILED AS A RESULT OF THE FLOOD.
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CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YES, GAS LINES MTA POWER. UM, IT ALL COMES COMES TOGETHER THERE, IT'S A IT'S IT'S QUITE QUITE COMPLEX.PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I'M SORRY CHRISTIAN. SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THE THEATER FROM WALL HAS A DESIGN DOWN ALREADY THAT CONTENT HAS BEEN PARTICIPATING IN CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YES, WE'VE PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DONE PROPOSED PLANS COMPLETED.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S OKAY. I PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MEAN I I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND I'M HAVING A HARD TIME CONTEXTUALIZING THIS. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I'VE SEEN IT. NOW, THE SHARE BECAUSE SON SEPTEMBER AND I'M SEEING IT NOW AND I'M PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST TRYING TO GET A PERSPECTIVE OF EACH OF THESE PROJECTS YOU GAVE US SORT OF AN UPDATE OF WHERE THEY WERE IN A STRATEGIC WAY.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW YOU'RE HALFWAY THROUGH DESIGN OR WHATEVER. YOU DIDN'T REALLY GIVE US MILESTONES OF COMPLETION, LIKE, YOU KNOW, DRAWINGS COMPLETED PROJECT MANAGER HIRED CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN IN JANUARY 2022 SOMETHING LIKE THAT YOU DID ON A FEW I THINK CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: JUST, JUST FOR BREVITY FOR THIS EVENING. I WASN'T GOING TO GO INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL, BUT IT IS MOSTLY PROVIDED. I BELIEVE IN, IN MANY OF THE CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YEAH, I THINK MOST OF THE PROJECTS HAVE MOST OF THOSE MILESTONES, WHAT WE CALL TASKS IN THE BACKUP THAT YOU RECEIVED OKAY.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SO IN THIS PARTICULAR EXAMPLE, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE HERE, THE DESIGN FOR THE THEATER FROM WALL IS COMPLETED, IT IS IN REGULATORY REVIEW. I CAN'T, I CAN'T RECALL WHICH CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AT THIS TIME, WE'RE ANTICIPATING POTENTIALLY BIDS BEING ISSUED IN JUNE OF 2021 AND CONSTRUCTION STARTING IN JUNE OR FALL OF 2021. SO WE HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE AT THE END. MAYBE THAT'LL ANSWER SOME OF THESE THINGS AND PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M SORRY, CHRISTIAN, DO WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS ON OUR STAFF THAT DO THIS WORK OR DO, IS IT REALLY JUST YOU AND RYAN, OR DO WE HIRE CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS TO DO THE PLANNING AND PROCESSING OF THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IN MANY INSTANCES, CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IT WILL REQUIRE HIRING OF OUTSIDE CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS TO TO OVERSEE THESE PROJECTS THIS PROJECT, FOR EXAMPLE, IS WAY TOO COMPLEX AND WILL REQUIRE A LOT OF TIME TO WITNESS VARIOUS ASPECTS OF IT, IT WON'T BE A DRIVE BY JOB THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT OCCASIONALLY JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: REAL QUICKLY.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HAVE HAD THE PLANS FOR THE H BACK CHANGED IN LIGHT OF KOBE. I MEAN, DO WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A FILTERS AND WHATNOT. IF WE HAVE WE LOOKED AT SORT OF JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, DOES THE PLAN HAS CHANGED AS A RESULT OF A PANDEMIC.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THE CONSULTANT THAT WAS WORKING ON IT VERY MUCH. GOT SIDETRACKED BECAUSE THEY WERE IMMEDIATELY CALLED TO TASK FOR MANY, MANY NUMBER OF CLIENTS TO RETROFIT EXISTING SYSTEMS FOR THOSE VERY THINGS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: WHERE WE'RE SORT OF PAST THAT. NOW, OR WE INITIATING THAT THAT DESIGN PROCESSES AGAIN. BUT YES, WE WILL HAVE THOSE KINDS OF SYSTEMS AS PART OF IT. WE DON'T THINK FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A PARTICULARLY CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: EXPENSIVE OR DRAMATIC DESIGN CHANGE, BUT THE EXPERIENCE OF THE LAST YEAR IS TAUGHT US THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE WERE GOING TO INTEGRATE INTO THE SYSTEM, RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.
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GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: BECAUSE THIS IT WAS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN THREE OR SIX MONTHS TO DO THE HBC BECAUSE OF OUR CONVERSION AND THE TECHNICAL WORK OF THE CITY LAST YEAR.CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THAT'S A, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: FINALLY, IS THE FOREST AVENUE SIDEWALKS. THIS IS A COMPLICATED. IT'S A VERY SIMPLE PROJECT IN THAT IT'S YOU JUST BUILD A SIDEWALK THAT'S NOT PARTICULARLY THAT'S NOT HEAVY ENGINEERING CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: BUT, BUT THE WE DID RECEIVE A STATE NEW YORK STATE, LOCAL PROJECTS, GRANT. THERE'S A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS THERE.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND I THINK THAT'S. YES. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS TIME. AND FINALLY, CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: POLICE COURT IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, AS, AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, MAYBE THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: WE DO HAVE A PRELIMINARY DESIGN THAT HAS BEEN PRELIMINARILY ACCEPTED BY THE OCA I WOULD DESCRIBE THOSE PLANS AT 80% I BELIEVE CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND NOW, THE ISSUE IS SORT OF WHAT HAS BECOME I WOULD SAY A SECOND PROJECT BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ONE COURTHOUSE THAT WE HAVE TO DO WE HAVE TO DO TO. AND THE SECOND IS, WE HAVE TO TEMPORARILY RELOCATE THE COURT FACILITY.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I JUST LIKE TO ADD CHRISTIAN THAT JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE ARE WE ARE UNDER OCA MANDATE TO REPAIR OUR COURT, THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET OUR, OUR STATE QUALITY DATE OR CALL IT RETURN OF TAXES. CALL IT WHAT YOU WILL JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET PAYMENTS FROM THE STATE REGULAR PAYMENTS FROM THE STATE TO THE CITY WITHHELD. IF WE DON'T DO THE PROJECT ON A TIMELINE TO THEIR LIKING.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YES.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE THING I'LL SAY, THOUGH, TO ON THIS IS I KNOW WHEN WE WERE DEBATING AND WE WERE TO PUT THE TEMPORARY LOCATION PART OF THE CONCERN TO WITH CAR PARK FIVE I THINK WAS, YOU KNOW, REDUCING PARKING, WHICH JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I GUESS ISN'T AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE WITH PEOPLE.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NOT COMMUTING AND THERE BEING PLENTY OF SPACE.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO THAT'S ONE GOOD THING.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YEAH.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YES, THOUGH.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THE GOOD NEWS IS COVEN WILL BE OVER BEFORE THAT PROJECT STARTS JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE BAD NEWS. I THINK YOU'LL SEE YOU'LL SEE SOME LASTING. I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE WILL MEAN THAT, AS EVIDENCED BY THE FACT THAT OUR 15 YEAR WAITING LIST OR WHATEVER FOR JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FOR TRAIN PARKING IS IS RUN THROUGH RIGHT I THINK YOU'LL SEE SOME SUSTAINABLE HABITS, WHERE PEOPLE MAY NOT BE, YOU KNOW, DEMANDING THE THE COMMUTER TRAFFIC IS OFTEN WELL BEYOND COVEN CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, REALLY, FOR THE PUBLIC, WE WOULD BE PURSUING TEMPORARY TRAILERS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUBSTANTIAL. BUT IT'S NOT DEEMED TO BE IT'LL ONLY BE FOR THE DURATION AND CONSTRUCTION. SO IT WILL BE DISRUPTIVE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN THAT PARKING LOT WOULD RETURN JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BETTER THAN BEFORE.
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CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: I DON'T EVEN THINK NOTRE DOM IS COULD PULL THIS OFF. BUT WHAT WE HAVE IS IN YELLOW SORT OF DESIGN PHASES AND WE'VE BROKEN THIS OUT INTO SIX MONTH INCREMENTS AND WE HAVE THE BID BUILD PHASES, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET THE PROJECTS BID ACCEPTING THOSE BIDS BY THE CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: ACCEPTING THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BITTER ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEN THE THE BUILDING STARTS. SO THIS SORT OF PROVIDES A ROUGH OVERVIEW AND ALSO ATTEMPTS TO SORT OF SPEAK TO THE MONEY FLOW. SO WHEN MIGHT WE ANTICIPATE CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IN COMPANY YOU KNOW MONEY BEING NEEDED TO PAY FOR VARIOUS THINGS SO CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THAT CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING GREG AND JOE WILL BE ADDRESSING IN MORE DETAIL AND ANOTHER MEANING IN THE IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BUT THIS IS OUR ATTEMPT TO SORT OF LOOK AT THAT MONEY FLOW OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND YOU KNOW THIS IS TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF, OF WHERE WE ARE IN IN THESE PROJECTS.CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SO, CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND AND AS WE SAY TIMING AND AND AS WE GO THROUGH THE DESIGNS, WE SEE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR SAVINGS. WE ALSO SEE SOME THINGS THAT YOU GET INTO THE MORE DETAILS WERE COST MAYBE GO UP. I THINK GREG'S EXAMPLE EARLIER OF NOT HAVING TO CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: BUILD OUT SPACE IN CITY HALL TO ACCOMMODATE FLEX SPACE THAT WE ALL MOVE INTO HIS VARIOUS PARTS OF THE BUILDING OR WORKED ON.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SO WHAT WE ALSO TRIED TO DO IS PREPARE YOU FOR SOME TIMING IN TERMS OF THE CITY COUNCIL ACTION SO REORGANIZING THIS TABLE THAT WE JUST SAW HERE. WHERE'S THE CITY COUNCIL, WHEN CAN WE EXPECT TO BE INVOLVED IN CERTAIN THINGS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE FIRST CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: FIRST QUARTER.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: OF THIS YEAR WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING SOME BIDS AWARDED CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: FOR LOCUSTS BEFORE IT AND CENTRAL PUMP. WE ARE SORT OF IN THE REGULATORY REVIEW PROCESS. IT'S SOMEWHAT OUT OF OUR HANDS, BUT BASED ON INFORMATION THAT WE BELIEVE WE THINK YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT PUTTING CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AWARDING A BID AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND AT SOME POINT IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2021 CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SIMILARLY, YOU MIGHT CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: BUILDING SEVEN BUILDING FIVE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE WOULD DO IN THE FIRST QUARTER SOME SEEKER STUFF THAT YOU HAVE TO DO. YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY DO SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT REFERRAL TO CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: ADVISORY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, SUCH AS THE BA ARE MAYBE FOLLOWING A PROCESS THAT YOU DID FOR DIRECT PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND AGAIN YOU CAN SORT OF SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: NOT UNTIL THE END OF THIS YEAR, WOULD WE BE IN A POSITION TO REALLY HAVE A MORE ENGAGED DISCUSSION WITH OCA CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND PARTICULARLY, NOT FOR THE PERMANENT CORPORATE MORE FOR THE TEMPORARY COURT FACILITY AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IN TERMS OF HOW WE WOULD PROCESS THAT GIVE YOU A BETTER TIMELINE.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO, I'M SORRY.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THAT'S WHERE WE ARE, UM, CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: ANY QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO SHUT DOWN THIS SCREEN. IF IT'S DIDN'T MUST SOMEBODY NEEDS IT, BUT PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST DO. I HAVE ONE QUESTION I WAS AT THE BASE AND MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT, AND WE WERE DISCUSSING DREDGING PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ACTUALLY LAST NIGHT, AND WE WERE DISCUSSING DREDGING, AND THERE'S A BELIEF THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO BE DREDGING IN 2021 OR 2022
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PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: EITHER THE CHANNEL AND OR THE OTHER AREA IF, INDEED, THAT'S THE CASE, SHOULDN'T THAT BE REFLECTED IN OUR CITY COUNCIL TENTATIVE SCHEDULE FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BECAUSE PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU HAVE TO GET READY. YOU HAVE TO GET AN ENGINEER ON BOARD, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET A PROJECT MANAGER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SET MILESTONES, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SUBMIT PERMITS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO YOU KNOW DESIGN AND ALL THAT STUFF.PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THAT'S NOT IN THERE AT ALL AND THAT WORRIES ME SLIGHTLY JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT IN THERE BECAUSE JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IF THE CITY WERE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DREDGE JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IN ANY SIGNIFICANT WAY. IT WOULD BE A CHANGE TO THE ENTERPRISE FUND STRUCTURE THAT WE'VE OBSERVED SO FAR. SO THAT IS A SEPARATE JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: A REALLY A SEPARATE MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION THAT IS WE DO NEED TO BE AWARE OF IT, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY ACTUALLY DOES IT SINCE IT'S THE BOAT BASE AND OR HOW THE CITY DOES PART OF IT NEEDS TO BE CONCEPTUALIZED BEFORE WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IF ANY OF IT SHOULD BE IN THE CITY BUDGET.
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: IF I, IF I CAN JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT WE THE CITY AND UNFORTUNATELY RYAN WASN'T AVAILABLE AT THIS MOMENT, BUT THE CITY HAS GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: A CONTRACTOR OR A CONSULTANT ON THE CASE AS WELL AS NOW A SUBCONTRACTOR, WHO IS LOOKING AT A PLANNED DISPOSAL OPTIONS.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MAYBE YOU'RE ANSWERING MY QUESTION, BUT MAYBE I'M NOT ANSWERING ASKING IT QUITE THE WAY I MEAN TO PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMME, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT FUNDS, LIKE YOU COULD HAVE A SEWER FUND, YOU COULD HAVE A STORM DRAIN FUN. YOU COULD HAVE A GENERAL CAPITAL FUN. YOU COULD HAVE GRANT FUNDS, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF SOURCES OF FUNDING.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND YET, EVEN WITH THAT $23 MILLION OF PROJECTS, YOU ARE NOT REFLECTING ALL THE PROJECTS YOU ARE WORKING ON. AND MY THOUGHT IS PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT SHOULD, BECAUSE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IS THE PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: EFFORT OF INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. AND THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I'M NOT, I'M NOT ARGUING ABOUT YOUR TIMEFRAME ON THE BASE IN OR ANY OF THAT.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PAM. LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LET ME ASK A QUESTION ON THAT TOO BECAUSE MY UNDER JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MY INTERPRETATION OR UNDERSTANDING WAS THERE'S A MUCH BIGGER AS YOU PREFACED CHRISTIAN A MUCH BIGGER TIP THAT HAS LIKE 7060 $70 MILLION WORTH OF THINGS IN THEM.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT THAT WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT THE SUBSET THAT WE HAD AT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING SAID THAT WE WERE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THIS GROUP AND NOT THE ENTIRE LIST. AM I DID I, IS THAT A PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN BRANCHING PROJECT IS GOING FORWARD. NOW WE ARE, WE DO HAVE A CONSULTANT. WE ARE GREG.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND RYAN. ARE YOU SAYING JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT THAT SEPTEMBER MEETING, BUT I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, THESE ARE THE THINGS WE CALL US AROUND IN THE SEPTEMBER MEETING, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM NOW.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT IT'S NOT
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JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT THE DREDGING WASN'T PART OF THAT.PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I GUESS.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OR OTHER THINGS HAPPENING.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING THAT IT'S SO MUCH BIGGER THAN $23 MILLION. LET'S SAY THERE'S $80 MILLION OF PROJECTS WE'VE GOT AND PRIORITIZE WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO 23 MILLION. SO HERE'S THE 23 MILLION, BUT OH BY THE WAY WE'RE MISSING DREDGING JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHEN I JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: GO PAM MIGHT MY INTERPRETATION AND SOMEONE CHECK ME ON THIS, LIKE, I DON'T THINK THAT WE MADE A DECISION FOR THEM. THE CITY FUNDS TO BE DEPLOYED AT DREDGING FOR ON BEHALF OF AN ENTERPRISE FUND THAT I DON'T THINK HAS BEEN VOTED ON. YEAH.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE FUNDING SOURCES. IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT WHO THE STAFF IS THAT'S DOING THE WORK. THE BASIN ISN'T PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE ARE THIS THE STAFF IN THIS ON THIS CALL CHRISTIAN RYAN, GREG. THEY ARE DOING THE WORK, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM DOESN'T MATTER THE FUNDING SOURCE.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THEN YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: WELL, WE DO.
RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: WE HAVE, WE HAVE A CAPITAL PLAN.
RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: AND NOW ARE LOOKING AT CONTRACTORS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROCESS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT IF IF THE, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TOTAL CAPITAL PLAN AGAIN ITS MASSIVE RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS WHAT WE CAN, IS THE BITE THAT WE CAN HANDLE NOW AND THIS ORDER SHOWING US IS HOW FAR WE'VE GOTTEN ALONG IN THIS PROCESS, WHETHER PLANS HAVE BEEN RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: DESIGNED IN WHETHER CONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN CHOSEN ETC ETC THE DREDGING IS NOT AT THE STAGING, IT BELONGS IN THE OTHER PART OF THE CAPITAL PLAN.
CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND GREG SAID THAT IT'S OUT FOR TESTING. AND WE DON'T KNOW YET. AND SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO PROCEED. SO WE DON'T CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HAVE A DEFINITIVE PLAN. IS THAT AN A. DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY.
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THAT'S A LARGE PART OF IT. I MEAN, WE WERE GOING TO BE GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WE ARE GOING TO BE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION THAN SIX MONTHS TO KNOW WHAT THE DREDGE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BOTH IN TERMS OF SCOPE TIMING AND COST.
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, IT CAN BE ONE OF FOUR VERY DIFFERENT PATHS AND THAT'S AND THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE AND TRYING TO GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: TO PUT ANY SORT OF DETAIL AROUND BOTH IN TERMS OF COSTS AS WELL AS SCHEDULE.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LET'S LOOK JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LET'S LET LET'S MOVE ON. WE, WE, WE CAN THINK ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT DO TO SHOW JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN MOTION ON SOME OTHER OCCASION. THIS IS THE CLUSTER OF PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT WE JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT WE CIRCLED IN IN JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND THAT HAD BEEN PLANNED THROUGH JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND THAT ARE JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: REALLY READY FOR BED AND AND FUNDING SHORTLY.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO IT IS THERE.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IS THERE IS, IS, IS THERE MORE. THIS WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION. CHRISTIAN JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IS THERE WAS MORE TO BE ADDED.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: NOW I WHEN YOUR HEAD LIKE THIS. I'LL JUST STOP SO JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WELL, LET ME ASK A QUICK QUESTION, BECAUSE WE GOT JOE HERE AND GREG ON THIS POINT IF I LOOKED AT THAT GRID CORRECTLY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INCURRING ABOUT SEVEN PLUS MILLION DOLLARS OF EXPENSES AGAINST THIS SET OF PLANS.
JOE FAZZINO: BY THE END OF JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THIS FISCAL RIGHT SO JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHEN DO WE START TALKING ABOUT THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO BORROW JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND AND HOW FAR YOU KNOW HOW FAR DO WE PLAN THAT WE HAVE A FUND AND RESERVE, WE HAVE CAPITAL GROWING PLANTS SO WE CAN YOU WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE. BUT
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JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I ASSUME THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TIMELINE, BY WHICH WE NEED TO APPROVE GOING OUT, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT THE FUNDING IMPLICATIONS ARE BASED ON INTEREST RATES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: SO WHAT'S SO. OKAY, SO A COUPLE POINTS. I'LL LET JOE PILE.
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: ON HERE IN A SECOND.
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AS A, AS A, JUST A AS A STARTING POINT. I'M AT THE POINT WHERE WE DO DECIDE WHEN TO GO TO MARKET. IT'S GOING TO TAKE BETWEEN 60 AND 75 LET'S SAY 60 TO 90 DAYS FROM THE DAY WE DECIDED TO GO UNTIL WE ACTUALLY CAN BE IN THE MARKET AND CLOSE GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: INTEREST RATES ARE AT HISTORIC LOWS RIGHT NOW. I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY FEELS THE MEDIA PRESSURE THAT WE HAVE TO BE IN THE MARKET. THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND THEN THE FINAL CONSIDERATION, JUST FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT IS THAT OUR GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: FINANCE AUDITED FINANCIALS WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE UNTIL JUNE AND SO RUSHING TO TRY TO GO TO MARKET IN MAY IS NOT GOING TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE.
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FINANCIALS ARE GOING TO BE OVER A YEAR OLD. AND SO ALL OF THAT TELLS ME THAT IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO BE IN THE MARKET UNTIL GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THIRD QUARTER THEORIES AND WE HAVE CERTAINLY THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, FOR WHATEVER THE PROJECT COSTS ARE BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM CHRISTIAN GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: GOD LIKE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT, OR I'M JUST JOE FAZZINO: NOW, PRETTY MUCH. I THINK EVERYTHING WAS ACCURATE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE AT THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM COMING UP.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU KNOW ALL ESTIMATES ARE JUST THAT ESTIMATES. YOU GOT IT. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THESE NUMBERS ROLE IN CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IN WHAT I DON'T YET UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, WHAT THE BIDDING WORLD IS LIKE IN THIS COVEN ENVIRONMENT SO YOU YOU MIGHT MAKE DIFFERENT DECISIONS BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS YOU'RE SEEING COME IN.
CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU WANT TO GET OR NEED MONEY.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, SO THANK YOU. AND I THINK WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
[6. Adjourn the public hearing until February 3, 2021 for consideration of a petition from The Miriam Osborn Memorial Home to amend the text of the City of Rye Zoning Code Association to create new use and development standards for “Senior Living Facilities” in the R-2 Zoning District. All public hearing comments should be emailed to publichearingcomments@ryeny.gov with “Osborn Zoning Change” as the subject no later than 3:00 pm on the day of the hearing.]
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: 1 FROM MARCH 1 TO MARCH 31 I ASSUME THAT'S WHAT'S THAT'S INTENDED TO SAY KRISTEN WILSON: SORRY, MR. MAYOR, WE DID SKIP OVER TO AGENDA ITEMS. JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OH, I'M SORRY. I'M WORKING THROUGH THE PACKET AND I SHOULDN'T BE.KRISTEN WILSON: FULLY BRAUN. AGENDA ITEM FIVE RESIDENTS WHO MAY BE HEARD.
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KRISTEN WILSON: IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. IF YOU COULD PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND I WILL ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK. WE DO HAVE A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.KRISTEN WILSON: ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[7. Resolution to extend the deadline for collection of Rye City Taxes by 1 month for this year only to March 1 – March 28, 2021.]
KRISTEN WILSON: REMEMBER, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE RAISING THEIR HAND.JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, AND WE'LL MOVE ALONG. AND WE HAVE TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL FEBRUARY 3 2021 JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE PETITION FROM THE MARION OSBORNE MIRIAM OSBORNE MEMORIAL HOME TO AMEND THE TEXT OF THE CITY OF RICE ZONING CODE ASSOCIATION TO CREATE NEW USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES IN THE ART ZONING DISTRICT.
KRISTEN WILSON: THIS IS AT THE PETITIONERS REQUEST, THEY'RE STILL GATHERING INFORMATION AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WILL KRISTEN WILSON: BE READY FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I KNOW IT'S AN INCREDIBLY BUSY TIME RIGHT NOW AT THE OSBORNE HOME WITH JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THEIR VACCINATION PROGRAM.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IN IN FULL SWING. AFTER JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AFTER THE LOGISTICAL DIFFICULTIES THAT ALL VACCINATION PROGRAMS HAVE SUFFERED JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO THEN WE MOVE TO THE RESOLUTION TO EXTEND THE DEADLINE FOR COLLECTION OF RICE CITY TEXAS BY ONE MONTH FOR THIS YEAR ONLY, AND JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LET'S SEE WHO'S GOING TO GIVE US BACKGROUND, JOE.
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: ACTUALLY, IT'LL, IT'LL BE GREG THIS TIME AROUND.
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THIS IS A RECOGNITION OF POTENTIAL HARDSHIP BEING CREATED BY THE ENDEMIC THE LEGISLATION HAS BEEN SITTING ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK. NOW FOR TWO GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WEEKS. IT HAS NOT YET BEEN SIGNED. WE DON'T HAVE AN INDICATION OF WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE SIGNED. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UNLIKE VILLAGES AND TOWNS, OUR TAX BILLS ARE SCHEDULED TO GO OUT AND A LITTLE OVER A WEEK AND GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WHICH REALLY WOULD NOT GIVE US MUCH TIME IF THE GOVERNOR ACTUALLY SIGNED SOMETHING IN THE NEXT WEEK TO EITHER DEAL WITH THE REPRINTING OF THE TAX BILLS OR GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: GET THE NOTIFICATIONS OUT. SO, IN RECOGNITION OF THAT WE ARE ASKING OR RECOMMENDING THAT THE COUNCIL EXTEND GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: TAX DATE FROM FEBRUARY ONE TO MARCH ONE, HAVE THEM DO ACTUALLY ON THE 28TH, IT SAYS ON 31ST, WHICH I APOLOGIZE. IT NEEDS TO BE THE SAME TIME PERIOD IS WHEN THEY NORMALLY WOULDN'T BE DO GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WHICH THERE WILL ALLOW US AT A FEATURE COUNCIL MEETING IF THE IF THE LEGISLATION IS ACTUALLY SIGNED TO ENABLE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT 120 DAY EXTENSION.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I JUST ADDS TO THAT THAT JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: GREG AND JOE HAVE CONSIDERED THE CASH FLOW IMPLICATIONS OF A DEFERRAL. AND I'VE ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION WITH JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SHELLEY MAYOR ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHEN THERE WAS A REFERRAL LAST SUMMER CITY WE HAD ALREADY COLLECTED OUR CITY TAX BUT THE TOWNS AND VILLAGES.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WERE SUBJECT TO A DEFERRAL. BUT THE DEFERRAL WAS NOT FOR EVERYONE, THERE WAS A HARDSHIP SHOWING REQUIRED IN ORDER TO DEFER AND JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SHELLEY MAYOR INDICATED TO ME THAT IT WOULD BE THE CASE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT OUR LIQUIDITY POSITION AND MAKE A DECISION AS A COUNCIL.
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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND AND AND HOW HOW WE WOULD PRECISELY FASHION THE DEFERRAL IN ORDER TO ADEQUATELY PROTECT THE CITY AND AND TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF OUR RESIDENTS.JOE FAZZINO: THAT'S WHERE YOU KNOW THE HUNDRED 20 DAYS FROM THE DUE DATE IS WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE TRICKY IF THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A PENALTY INVOLVED AND JOE FAZZINO: WHEN DO YOU SAY THAT THE DUE DATE IS IF SOMEBODY TELLS YOU THE DUE DATE IS 120 DAYS FROM WHEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PAY, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA WAIT JOE FAZZINO: JUST I'VE ACQUAINTED WITH KIND OF LIKE LAST YEAR WITH, YOU KNOW, TAX DAY BEING EXTENDED UNTIL JULY 15 YOU KNOW I KNOW I DIDN'T PAY MY TAXES UNTIL JULY 15 I DIDN'T HAVE TO. SO I JUST DON'T KNOW.
JOE FAZZINO: WELL, WE'RE IN THE JOE FAZZINO: WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SITUATION. IF YOU TAKE THE TOTAL 4800 PARCELS. THERE'S ABOUT 3300 PARCELS OF TAXPAYERS THAT PAY ON THEIR OWN.
[8. Authorizing the retention of Hank Menkes of Menkes Associates, LLC to assist the City of Rye in reviewing its wireless regulations at a cost not to exceed $10,000.]
JOE FAZZINO: YOU KNOW, CAN THEY HOLD THEIR MONEY CAN THEY FLOAT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ESCROW AMOUNTS AND PAY LATER TO. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. RIGHT, SO GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: SHORT ANSWER HAS BEEN FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION LIQUIDITY WISE, WE'RE FINE. BUT BECAUSE WE DO COLLECT 70% OF OUR BUDGET BY WAY OF PROPERTY TAXES.GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: TO YOU AT A FUTURE MEETING.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MAY HAVE A SECOND PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I CAN JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OH CIRCUIT. NOTHING. THIS IS ROLL CALL.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: A WOMAN GODDARD.
SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YES.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILMAN MECCA.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILWOMAN SOUZA YES COUNCILMAN STACKS.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILWOMAN TARLOW CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AIR CON. YES.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S BEST IF IF IF I INTRODUCE IN A GREG, YOU ARE LISTED AS THE CONTACT YOU CAN SUPPLEMENT ME BUT JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WERE DESIROUS OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR WIRELESS REGULATIONS ARE BOTH WELCOMING OF THE SORT OF WIRELESS PRESENCE THAT WE JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MAY BE COMFORTABLE WITH AND THAT OUR WIRELESS REGULATIONS ARE STRONG IN THEIR ABILITY TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS IN OUR CITY IN RESPECTS THAT MAYBE MAYBE UNWELCOME AND JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE DID REVISE OUR WIRELESS REGULATIONS AFTER CERTAIN FCC ACTION. AND I SUPPOSE IT WAS JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE VERY BEGINNING OF 2019 IN TIME TO HAVE THEM IN PLACE.
[9. Authorization for City Manager to enter into an Inter-municipal Agreement with Westchester County for the Stop-DWI Program for the City of Rye Police Department]
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE NEW FCC REGULATIONS, THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL CHANGES AND ADDITIONAL PRESSURES CALL THEM ON MUNICIPALITIES AND SO WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR ADVICE.[01:40:06]
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WITH THAT JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: A GREG. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU OR KRISTEN THAT HE WOULD ADD KRISTEN WILSON: I WOULD JUST ADD THAT HANK IS AN EXPERT IN THIS AREA AND KRISTEN WILSON: BETWEEN HIS EXPERTISE AND UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES AND THE DIFFERENT FCC REGULATIONS AND CASE LAW THAT COMES DOWN DAILY KRISTEN WILSON: WE, WE THINK THAT TOGETHER WE CAN COME UP WITH A COUPLE SUGGESTIONS TO TO BUTTON UP OUR EXISTING LAW.JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO WE HAVE EMOTION.
PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I KNOW RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: OKAY.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WELL, QUOTE, PLEASE.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN GODDARD.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILMAN MECCA.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILWOMAN SOUZA, CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN SPECS.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCIL WOMAN TARLOW CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, MAYOR CONE.
[10. Authorization for the City Manager to enter into a contract with attorney Joel R. Dichter, Esq. of Dichter Law LLC by an amount not to exceed $10,000 for professional fees and services.]
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: OH MAN, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT'S EXISTED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. IN EFFECT, THE COUNTY REIMBURSES THE CITY FOR COLLECTING AND CAREER UP PERIODICALLY PROVIDING DATA.GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: ON DW EYES SO THAT CAN BE CONSOLIDATED INTO A COUNTY THAT DATABASE. AND WE'VE CONTINUED TO THE COUNTY CONTINUING WORK WITH US AND WAYS TO GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: BOTH POLICE AND HOPEFULLY GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: PREVENT DW DRUMS, BUT IT'S GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: A PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN ENROLLED FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS, WHICH IS WHAT THIS AGREEMENT IS THE MOTION.
RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: SENSOR.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN GODDARD.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILMAN MECCA.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILWOMAN SOUZA, YES.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN STACKS.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILWOMAN TARLOW YES.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND GREG.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OR KRISTEN. PLEASE INTRODUCE SURE GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AS YOUR CALL. WE, THE CITY AS WELL AS RIDE BROKEN PORCHESTER CAME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH OR COMMENTED AND WAS INVOLVED IN AS SOON AS RATE TASTE. I APOLOGIZE. IN THE EARLY AGENDA PACKAGE IT STATED IN THE BACKGROUND UNITED WESTCHESTER, THAT WAS AN ERROR ENSUE AS GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: BUT OR A CASE FROM SUE AS THAT WAS SETTLED LAST YEAR AS PART OF THAT SETTLEMENT OR THAT AGREEMENT SUE US HAS TO PRODUCE A NUMBER OF REPORTS ABOUT QUARTERLY AND ANNUALLY.
[11. Resolution to declare certain City equipment as surplus.]
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: CASE, AND HE WOULD ACT AS THE SURVEILLANCE, IF YOU WILL, TO REVIEW THOSE FILINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT SO AS REMAINS AND COMPLIANCE.GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: IN PRODUCING REPORTS AND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THAT RATE AGREEMENT. THIS IS BEING SHARED AGAIN BY RIDE BROOKE PORCHESTER AND RYAN OUR PORTION WOULD NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANY QUESTIONS.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WAIT SO PAYING A LAWYER TO MAKE SURE THAT JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AS SOON AS DOES WHAT THEY ALREADY PROMISED TO DO GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: IN TERMS OF LEGAL FILINGS. YES.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HAVE EMOTION.
RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION ENTREPRENEUR.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SECOND. THANK YOU.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN GODDARD.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILMAN MECCA.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILWOMAN SOUZA, JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: GRUDGINGLY, YES.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN DAX.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILWOMAN TARLOW YES.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: MAYOR CONE.
[01:45:01]
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE HAVE RESOLUTIONS DECLARE CERTAIN CITY EQUIPMENT AS SURPLUS.[12. Appointments to Boards and Commissions by the Mayor with Council approval.]
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: RYAN IS WITH US, GREG.GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: ONE NOTE, I'LL MAKE THE FIRST ITEM ON THIS LIST. THE CROWN VICTORIA CROWN CROWN VICTORIA, THE MILEAGE IS 112,000 NINE OF THREE SITE. THE COMMA SLIP ONE PLACE GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: BUT THESE HAVE ALL BEEN REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND PUBLIC WORKS GARAGE AND WILL FOLLOW OUR PROCEDURE IN TERMS OF DISPOSAL.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANY QUESTIONS.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BAD EMOTION.
RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: EMOTION. MR. MAYOR.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MAYOR HERE A SECOND CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SECOND, JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN GODDARD.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, THAT'S A WOMAN JOHNSON.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILMAN MECCA.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILWOMAN SOUZA YES COUNCILMAN STACKS.
CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILWOMAN TARLOW PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YES.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MAYOR CONE. YES.
[13. Old Business/New Business.]
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: POINT MEANS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, SO JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: RIGHT TOWN PARK COMMISSION, THE COMMISSIONER, OTHER THAN MYSELF AGAIN WILL BE EMILY HURT.JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FOR RYE WRECK. WE HAVE A NEWCOMER CAN NEW JAD LICK JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE HAVE LINDA RICH TACO RENEWING FOR A NEW TERM.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CHRISTINE NEW JOB LUCK IS A NEWCOMER JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE FLOOD ADVISORY COMMITTEE ERIC BOY IS RENEWING FOR A NEW TERM SUSTAINABILITY TWO NEW MEMBERS, PAM HAS AND CHRIS COHEN.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OLD BUSINESS NEW BUSINESS.
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: MR. MAYOR. IF I CAN JUST MAKE ONE POINT.
GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: PRETTY HARD OVER THE LAST MONTH OR TWO TO GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: REPLACE PERMITS IN THE MTA LOTS GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THERE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE REMAIN TODAY APPROXIMATELY 15 PERMITS FOR THE HIGHLAND CEDAR PARKING GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: I WOULD REMIND EVERYBODY THAT ONCE YOU GET ON THAT LIST, YOU'RE ABLE TO RENEW. SO EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE IT FOR THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS, YOU ARE NOW ON A LIST THAT HAS NOT OPENED UP IN THE GREG USRY INTERIM CITY MANAGER: CERTAINLY THE 20 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE. SO I JUST ANYBODY LEFT LISTING. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GRAB THEM WHILE YOU CAN.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, SO. MAY HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK IN RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: MOTION EVERYBODY IN TWO WEEKS.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR.
JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: RIGHT, THANK YOU EVERYONE AND GOOD NIGHT.
RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: GOOD NIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.