Apr 21, 2021 City Council

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, WE THEN GO TO HIRING OF FIRST AMENDMENT COUNCIL.

HI.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WITH RESPECT TO POSSIBLE PRIDE FLAG RACING AND OTHER MATTERS KRISTEN YOU WANTED TO HAVE A WORD.

KRISTEN WILSON: SURE, THANK YOU, MR MAYOR.

KRISTEN WILSON: OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR, SEVERAL FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES HAVE BEEN RAISED THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND GIVEN THE ISSUES SURROUNDING.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF INDIVIDUALS AS WELL AS PROTECTING GOVERNMENT POLICY AND PROPERTY.

KRISTEN WILSON: I'M RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ENGAGE SPECIAL COUNSEL TO HELP DRAFT NECESSARY POLICIES OR PROCEDURES FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER SO.

KRISTEN WILSON: AS WE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A RESOLUTION PUT FORWARD TO TO RETAIN THE LAW FIRM OF SOKOLOFF AND STERN FOR AN AMOUNT, NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 TO PROVIDE THIS FIRST AMENDMENT ADVICE AND GUIDANCE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THANK YOU, CHRISTIAN DO WE HAVE A CHANCE TO.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SAY A FEW WORDS.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'D LIKE TO THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, THANKS.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO UM SO YEAH I JUST LEARNED YESTERDAY THAT SOME OF THE COUNCIL HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO THE LEGALITY OF A NUMBER OF THESE FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES, SO I GUESS FOR SOME TIME, MAYBE OVER A MONTH, IF NOT MUCH LONGER.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I LEARNED A LITTLE BIT MORE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, SO THANK YOU.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO IS TO RETAIN A LAW FIRM AND SPEND TAXPAYER MONEY LOOKING AT VARIOUS ISSUES, INCLUDING THE FLAG ON THE MUNICIPAL POLL ISSUE SO THAT WAS SORT OF CLEARED UP A LITTLE BIT, FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE WORK OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND AND AND I GUESS.

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SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE CORPORATION COUNSEL BEFORE I MAKE A DECISION ABOUT SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY, I ALSO THINK THAT THE PUBLIC.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THESE PARTICULAR ISSUES AND CONCERNS ARE AS THEY RELATE TO VARIOUS FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES SO THAT'S THAT'S SORT OF MY FIRST THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER, AFTER LISTENING.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION COMMENTS SECONDLY, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT RAISING A FLAG AND A PUBLIC POLL REQUIRES ANY LEGAL ANALYSIS.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO, WHILE I COULD VERY WELL BE OPEN TO RETAINING LEGAL COUNSEL IN THE FUTURE ON OTHER ISSUES, I DO NOT BELIEVE WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY TO ASK THE QUESTION OF WHETHER A LEGISLATIVE BODY CAN VOTE TO HAVE A FLAG ON A MUNICIPAL POLL.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT IS AS CLEAR AS DAY THAT THERE IS MUCH PRECEDENCE ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND IN OUR OWN COUNTY THAT AS SIMPLE VOTE BY A LEGISLATIVE BODY IS ALL THAT'S REQUIRED.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LAST YEAR I SPOKE TO A NUMBER OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE COUNTY I TALKED TO COUNTY LEGISLATOR CATHERINE PARKER ABOUT WHAT THEY DO FOR THEIR COUNTY PRIDE FLAG RAISING SHE SAID, THEY JUST DO IT.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S ON A PUBLIC POLL AND THERE'S NO CONCERN ABOUT FUTURE DEMANDS FOR OTHER FLAGS BEDFORD.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THEY ARE COMING INTO THEIR SECOND YEAR, I TALKED TO THE TOWN SUPERVISOR AT THE TIME, HE SAID QUOTE I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WE ARE A POLITICAL BODY WE HOLD CERTAIN VALUES.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT IS NOT INCONSISTENT OR INAPPROPRIATE TO EXERCISE THOSE VALUES WE LOOK AT EACH REQUEST ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IF WE WERE FIND THE REQUEST IS INAPPROPRIATE OR DISAGREEABLE WE WOULD TURN IT DOWN, YOU WOULD VOTE AGAINST IT, IF YOU GOT SOMETHING OFFENSIVE.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NEW ROCHELLE HAS HAD THEIR FLAG RAISING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE FIRST CEREMONY, THE PROCESS FOR PROPOSING WAS IN THE MAYOR'S WORDS QUOTE REALLY INFORMAL HE SENT AN EMAIL AROUND TO THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SUGGESTING THE IDEA OF A FLAG RAISING CEREMONY, THERE WERE NO QUESTIONS NO CONCERNS.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HE SAID LAST YEAR HE DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO EMAIL, IT WAS A NON ISSUE, I ASKED HIM WHETHER ANY TOPICS RELATED TO FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS LEGALITY OR FLAG POLICIES, WHETHER WE NEEDED A POLICY, HE SAID THEY'D NEVER COME UP.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HIS RESPONSE WAS QUOTE YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT, AS THE GOVERNMENT AS IN HOW YOUR LEGISLATIVE BODY.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MAJORITY VOTES, HE AGREES THAT IT COULD CREATE A PRECEDENT, WHERE ORGANIZATIONS COULD OR PEOPLE COULD MAKE REQUESTS, BUT AGAIN, HE SAID THAT HIS COUNSEL WOULD DELIBERATE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HE SUMMARIZED BY SAYING THIS IS A PRACTICAL PROBLEM, NOT A LEGAL PROBLEM IF A MUNICIPALITY WERE TO BE INUNDATED WITH REQUESTS, BUT HE HASN'T EXPERIENCED THAT IN HIS EXTREMELY LARGE CITY.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I ASKED IF HE KNEW OF ANY NEW YORK PROTOCOLS OR GUIDELINES PROCEDURES WITH RESPECT TO MUNICIPALITIES FLYING FLAGS ON PUBLIC POLLS.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HE SAID, ASIDE FROM THE GENERAL ONES RELATED TO THE US FLAG LIKE HALF MASS GUIDELINES THINGS LIKE THAT HE'S NEVER HEARD ANY OF ANY.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YONKERS WHICH HAS HAD A FLAG RAISING CEREMONY FOR MANY YEARS NOW, I TALKED TO STATE SENATOR SHELLEY MAYOR ABOUT THE PROCESS AND LEGALITY, SHE SAID THE SAME THING AS THE OTHERS IF A LEGISLATIVE.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BODY WANTS IT IT'S ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE AND THEN TODAY, I SPOKE WITH MEMBER OF THE.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ELECTED BODY IN LEWISBURG AND THEY ARE THEY JUST VOTED TO HAVE A FLAG RAISING CEREMONY IN THEIRS, SO I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THE PRIDE FLAGS SYMBOLIC REPRESENTATION OF EQUALITY AND.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: INCLUSION AND TOLERANCE, THIS IS NOT A CAUSE BUT PRINCIPLES THAT HAVE BEEN NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED SO THERE'S NO LEGAL QUESTION I SHARED SOME OF THESE NOTES WITH OUR CORPORATION COUNSEL LAST YEAR, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE BEEN INCLUDED.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN THE DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS FIRST.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE SEPARATE THE TWO THINGS WE WOULD JUST VOTE TO APPROVE THE FLYING OF THE FLAG AND, SECOND, AS THEY RELATE TO FIRST AMENDMENT CONCERNS AND WHETHER WE NEED TO RETAIN COUNSEL I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT WE INCLUDE THE PUBLIC IN A CONVERSATION TO SORT OF INTRODUCE THE IDEA AND THE CONCERNS.

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SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M CERTAINLY NOT AGAINST RETAINING COUNSEL IF THE NEED BE, BUT I JUST CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIENCE VOTE TONIGHT TO EXPAND FUNDS.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON SOMETHING THAT I JUST DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION ON, SO THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU, THANK YOU, SARAH I'D LIKE TO RESPOND FIRST YOU DO OF COURSE HAVE WHATEVER WORK PRODUCT THERE IS THAT IT'S THE QUESTIONNAIRE THAT WE SENT TO LAW FIRMS AND IT DEALS WITH FLAG RAISINGS CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS SIGNS OR FLAGS ON CITY PROPERTY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SIGNS OR FLAGS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: DEMONSTRATORS AND PROTESTS, BUT MORE PROTECT, WHICH ARE ALL MATTERS THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED OVER THE PAST YEAR AND THAT HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL IMPLICATIONS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MORE SPECIFICALLY, THIS QUESTION FOR THE CITY IS ABOUT A VARIETY OF FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES, TO THE EXTENT THE PRIDE FLAG IS INVOLVED IT'S THE TRIGGER FOR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FOR OUR PERCEPTION OF THE NEED FOR A GENERAL VIEW ON FLAT RATE SAVINGS I THINK BACK TO LESS THAN A YEAR AGO TO THE EVENING, THIS COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED DECLARING JUNE PRIDE MONTH IN RY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE COUNCIL DID NOT, HOWEVER, APPROVE RAISING THE FLAG THAN THOUGH EVERYBODY SUPPORTS THE LGBT Q PLUS CAUSE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WHY DID WE NOT APPROVE OUR CORPORATION COUNSEL WARNED US THAT SHE DID THIS EVENING THAT A FLAG RAISING MY MORE SPECIFICALLY CAUSED US TO HAVE TO RAISE OTHER FLAGS, NOT OF OUR CHOOSING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ONE VOICE ON THE COUNCIL FOR A FLAG RAISING TOLD US THAT WE WERE ALREADY VULNERABLE TO THAT THREAT, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST GO AHEAD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANOTHER VOICE ON THE COUNCIL TOLD US TO RAISE THE PRIDE FLAG BECAUSE OTHER GOVERNMENTAL SQUARE AND THEY WERE NOT CONCERNED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BUT MOST OF US WERE LEFT WITH QUESTIONS RAISE A FLAG AND RAISE LITIGATION, OR PERHAPS RAISE THE FLAG AND THEN BE OBLIGED TO RAISE ANOTHER FLAG WITH AN UNWANTED MESSAGE WE ARE CITY FIDUCIARIES MOST OF US THOUGHT WE SHOULD FIGURE THIS OUT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE FIRST CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS CASE SHIRT LEFT THE CITY OF BOSTON CAME OUR WAY WE'RE LOCATED IN THE SECOND CIRCUIT AND SHIRT LEFT IS NOT BINDING PRECEDENT FOR US HERE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SHIRT LEFT DID PROVIDE SOME BAD NEWS AND SOME GOOD NEWS, THOUGH THE BAD NEWS MUNICIPALITIES MAY GET SUED AND BATTLES OVER FLAGS AND STAY IN COURT FOR YEARS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE GOOD NEWS AS OF THE SHIRT LEFT LATE JANUARY DECISION, EVEN IF RYE, LIKE BOSTON HAD FLOWN HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT CAUSE FLAGS, WE MIGHT STILL BE ABLE TO EXERCISE DISCRETION OVER FUTURE FLECK CHOICES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I JUST USE THE WORD MY WHY BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW YET IF SHIRT LEFT HAS ANY FURTHER RECOURSE IN THE FIRST CIRCUIT, OR WHETHER THE CASE WILL GO TO THE US SUPREME COURT AS THE PLAINTIFFS HAVE SAID THEY WOULD TAKE IT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IN THE ABSENCE OF SUPREME COURT DIRECTION, WE WILL NEED TO KNOW THE LAW OF OUR JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, THE SECOND CIRCUIT, IN ORDER TO REALLY KNOW THE CITY OF RISE POSITION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND SARAH POINTED OUT OTHER GOVERNMENTAL HAVE RAISED THE PRIDE FLAG ISN'T THAT ENOUGH WITHOUT INVESTIGATING THEIR DILIGENCE WE CAN'T REALLY HAVE A VIEW.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WEST CHESTER HAS BETWEEN 40 AND 50 MUNICIPALITIES, A SMALL NUMBER OF CHOSEN TO DO THIS FROM SARAH'S DESCRIPTION WITHOUT INVESTIGATION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BUT IS IT A QUESTION OF NUMBERS REALLY IT SHOULDN'T BE WHETHER THE NUMBERS ARE SMALL OR LARGE, WE DO RIE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: S AT CITY COUNCIL OUR INDEPENDENT THOUGHT FOR RYE, WITH A VIEW TO THE REALITIES OF RYE OTHER TOWNS MAY FLY PRIDE FLAGS WITHOUT A PROBLEM.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OTHER TOWNS MAY ALSO HOST DRAG QUEEN STORY HOURS WITHOUT ISSUE OTHER TOWNS SCHOOL BOARDS MAY HAVE INCLUSIVE INCLUSIVE CITY TASK FORCES WITHOUT GREAT CONTROVERSY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: PUTTING ASIDE NON RESIDENT INTEREST GROUPS OUR OWN RESIDENTS HAVE DIVERSE AND STRONGLY HELD VIEWS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE HAVE TO ANTICIPATE WHAT MAY HAPPEN IN OUR TOWN ONCE THE CITY PUTS UP THAT FIRST FLAG, WE HAVE TO ENTER ANTICIPATE ISSUES BEYOND THE IMMEDIATE CONTEXT OF LGBT Q PLUS ACCEPTANCE AND AGAIN I REITERATE MY BELIEF THAT EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE LGBT COMMUNITY.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE FORCED BY A LAWSUIT TO FLY A FLAG, REPRESENTING A CAUSE OF WHICH WE MAY NOT APPROVE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE SUREST WAY TO AVOID THIS IS A BLANKET POLICY AGAINST FLAGS, OTHER THAN THE AMERICAN FLAG AND THE MIA POW FLAG, THAT THE CITY NOW FLIES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HOWEVER, YOUTH FROM THE RYE HIGH SCHOOL GSA AND THERE ARE ADULTS SUPPORTERS HAVE MADE A COMPELLING CASE THAT PUBLIC SUPPORT, BY MEANS OF THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FLAG IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THEM, WE HEAR YOU WE ON THE COUNCIL MUST, HOWEVER, UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT FIRST FLAG WILL MEAN TO THIS CITY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LONG AFTER THE FACT THAT IT WAS A PRIDE FLAG THAT WAS FIRST MAY BE FORGOTTEN, WE MUST LOOK BEFORE WE LEAP AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PREPARING TO DO THE SEASON IT TRULY YOU HAVE A HAND UP.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH I JUST I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE CORP CORPORATION COUNSEL TO RETAIN SOKOLOV AND STERN AND THE AMOUNT, NOT TO EXCEED $10,000.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TO GET THE ADVICE THAT WE NEED ON THIS AS WELL AS OTHER FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES SO I'M JUST PUTTING THE MOTION OUT THERE.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I WOULD LIKE.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SOMETHING BEFORE WE.

GO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK WE'RE JUST SECOND DID.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: I SECOND THAT MOTION MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE GOING TO PUSH SOMETHING THROUGH WITHOUT LETTING THE COUNCIL PERSON SPEAK ON IT ON THE ISSUE AT ALL IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU.

SAW.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: A.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SECOND, YOU CAN.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: COMMENT ON THE MOTION, IF YOU LIKE, YES.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: VERY TRANSPARENT VERY GOOD.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT HE JUST SAID COMMENT.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON THE MOTION.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I WANT TO COMMENT ON WHAT JOSH SAID I DON'T WANT TO COMMENT ON THE MOTION.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WELL, YOU COULD COME WELL I'M SORRY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LET'S GET THROUGH THE MOTION AND THEN COMMENT, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO COMMENT ON THE MOTION I.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: KNOW I WANT TO HEAR YOU I JUST PUT A MOTION SO DO YOU WANT TO DO THE MOTION TO DO THE MOTION AND THEN YOU SPEAK, OR DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: NO EMOTION AMAZING SECOND LET'S LET'S.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: LET'S DISCUSS IF YOU ARE DISCUSS THEM AUCTION WHERE WE'RE AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO VOTE ON.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PAM WHEN YOU WANT.

KRISTEN WILSON: YEAH YOU.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HERE HERE'S MY HERE'S MY PROBLEM.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I HAVE BEEN IN THIS DEALT WITH FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES FOR A LONG TIME, AND I BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT WE DO NEED TO DO SOMETHING WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF POLICY.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A POLICY WHERE WE D POLITICIZE THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND TAKE IT OUT OF OUR HANDS, IF I COULD WAVE A MAGIC WAND, I WOULD SAY.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THIS IS A AN APPLICATION PROCESS, IT WOULD APPEAR IN FRONT OF GREG S3 HIS DESK OR PERHAPS CAROLYN'S DESK THEY WOULD SAY, DOES IT MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS, THERE MIGHT BE SEVEN OR EIGHT REQUIREMENTS THAT WE PUT DOWN ON PAPER.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DOES IT OFFEND DOES IT, YOU KNOW GENERAL STATEMENTS NOT PARTICULARLY CONTENT DRIVEN AND THEN THEY WOULD GRANT THIS IN ITS ENTIRETY, FOR THE FLAG RAISING OR SIGNS OR WHATEVER THAT I HAVE SEEN.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA I'VE SEEN IT IN IDAHO IT WORKS, WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A SITUATION WHERE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, A LOCAL JURISDICTIONS HAVE DECIDED.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NOT TO HAVE A POLICY THEY HAVE DECIDED TO LEAVE IT IN THE POLITICAL ARENA ONLY THAT'S WHAT SARAH IS SUGGESTING THAT WE DO LEAVE IT IN THE POLITICAL ARENA, NOT JUST.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IF I COULD CLARIFY WHAT I AM JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE ARE A LEGISLATIVE BODY, SO, WHILE WE CAN VOTE FOR SOMETHING AND I WAS THE ONE WHO PROPOSED THE FLAG RAISING LAST YEAR.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I WOULD PROBABLY YOU KNOW PROPOSE IT AGAIN THIS YEAR, WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE THE GSA AND THE MANY COMMUNITY GROUPS AND OUR RESIDENTS.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST AS WE CAN SUPPORT AND VOTE ON THAT, AND SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT VOTE FOR IT, WE CAN EQUALLY IF SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARILY OFFENSIVE.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WAS PROPOSED TO US, WE CAN VOTE IT DOWN, AND THAT IS THE, THAT IS WHAT THE POWER OF A LEGISLATIVE BODY IS, I JUST WANT TO BE.

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SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHEN WE SAY POLITICAL AND I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING WITH BY SAYING POLITICAL VERSUS.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: POLICY, BUT I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR TO OUR TO IT TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS LITERALLY VOTING FOR SOMETHING, AND IF SOMETHING TERRIBLY OFFENSIVE CAME ACROSS THAT ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS PROPOSED, WE WOULD VOTE IT DOWN.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S IT.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PRETTY AND THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM AS JOSH CORRECTLY STATED, BECAUSE IF IT'S THE CONTENT OF THE SIGNAGE THAT WE ARE VOTING ON, THAT IS WHEN WE START TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FIRST AMENDMENT.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WHAT I WANTED TO GET TO HERE IS THAT WE HAVE AN MSI FLAG FLYING THAT FLAG IS NOT ILLEGAL FLAG ON THE POLE, ANY MORE THAN THE RAINBOW FLAG, THE.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CONFEDERATE FLAG, THE NAZI FLAG, IT IS NOT WHAT I SAID, A YEAR AGO WAS I'D LIKE TO SEE A POLICY BECAUSE I AM BOTHERED BY THE FACT THAT SOMEONE ON THE COUNCIL SAID, WELL, AM I FLAGS BEEN FLYING FOR 35 YEARS.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WELL, THAT WAS PERFECTLY FINE IT WAS THAT RAINBOW FLAG OR GAY OR LB GT FLAG, THAT WAS THE PROBLEM THAT BOTHERED ME LAST YEAR AND IT BOTHERS ME TODAY.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WHEN WE TAKE THIS ACTION RIGHT NOW IS YOU'RE SAYING WE ARE GOING, I HOPE THAT WE ARE THE POLITICIZING THIS PROCESS THAT WE ARE NOT MAKING THIS ABOUT.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHETHER WE BELIEVE IN MIA OR WE BELIEVE IN CONFEDERATE THE CONFEDERACY OR WHATEVER THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THE.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PUBLIC SQUARE BELONGS TO THE PUBLIC, AND THAT, AS LONG AS WE PROTECT THE PUBLIC IN ITS WHEN WE PUT THAT FLAG UP THAT THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT GOES IN IT AND THAT'S NOT.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE LEAVE THIS THE WAY WE ARE LEAVING IT NOW, I DO BELIEVE THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL WANT TO APPROVE THAT FLAG.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THEY WANT TO DO IT, I DON'T I'M NOT SAYING NO TO THESE KIDS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE, I THINK WE COULD APPROVE THAT FLAG TONIGHT.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THEN WE COULD STILL DO THIS PUBLIC POLICY DECISION ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT FOR THE FUTURE AND STILL BE FINE BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY VIOLATING THE CONTENT RESTRICTIONS BY SAYING THE MIA FLAG GOES, BUT A RAINBOW FLAG, WELL, WE ALL READY ARE VIOLATING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HEY PAM WHAT YOU WHAT YOU HAD SAID IS INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE FIRST CIRCUIT HAS SAID IN CHURCH AND YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR YOUR YOUR VIEW BUT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IT IS BECAUSE OF THE INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN WHAT KRISTEN HAS SAID WHAT YOU HAVE SAID AND WHAT SARAH HAS SAID THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO OUT TO OUTSIDE COUNSEL, I BELIEVE, AND FIND OUT WHAT THE LAW IS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: RIGHT NOW, WITH RESPECT TO FLAG RAISE THINGS IN A VARIETY OF OTHER THINGS, AND THEN, YES, I HOPE THAT WE WILL HAVE A DEEP POLITICIZED MEANS OF DEALING WITH THIS GOING FORWARD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BECAUSE ONCE WE PUT UP ONE FLAG I'M SURE THAT THERE WILL BE REQUESTS TO PUT UP OTHER FLAGS AND THE CITY, WILL HAVE TO FIND A WAY.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THAT'S HOW WE VOTE FOR IT, I I DON'T NEED A POLICY OR ILLEGAL MEMO TO TELL ME THAT IT IS CLEAR AS DAY THAT WE CAN VOTE FOR A FLAG RAISING OF A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED FLAG I DON'T NEED A POLICY FOR THAT.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THAT'S FINE AND ALSO AND ALSO, WE HAVE HEARD FROM SCORES OF PEOPLE FROM THE TOWN WE'VE HEARD FROM.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OUR OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS EVERY SINGLE ONE PLUS OUR CONGRESS OUR MEMBER OF CONGRESS, WE DON'T NEED A POLICY TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED SO THAT'S JUST HOW I FEEL BUT ANYWAY I'M BELABORING.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PRETTY CLEAR.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'LL JUST MAKE A QUICK POINT LIKE YOU KNOW OH YEAH GO AHEAD IT'S JUST.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE HAVE ANY OPTION ON THE FLOOR IF PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK AFTERWARDS, THEN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO THE MOTION JULIE, COULD YOU JUST RESTATE IT I KNOW IT'S MADE AND SECONDED BUT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH IT'S TOWARDS THE CORPORATION COUNSEL TO HIRE SO CO OP AND STERN IN AN AMOUNT, NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 TO STUDY FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES, INCLUDING THIS FLAG RAISING ISSUE.

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JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THEN, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD TIMES OF THE ESSENCE, THE LAW FIRMS KNOWS THAT THAT YOU KNOW JUNE IS AROUND THE CORNER ON THE PR FIRMS THAT THEY CAN DO THIS WORK IN THAT TIME AND I'VE ALREADY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DONE WORK IN THIS FIELD SO THAT'S MY EMOTION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY EMOTION IS OUT THERE SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR.

KRISTEN WILSON: MR MURPHY CAN DO A ROLL CALL SOME.

KRISTEN WILSON: MONEY.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: YEAH.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YEAH OKAY ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN GODDARD.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: KNOW COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILMAN MECCA.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILWOMAN SOUZA.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN STACKS.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILWOMAN TARLOW.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: MAYOR CON.

KRISTEN WILSON: SIR, WHERE YOU DO HAVE A FEW HANDS RAISED I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE, OR IF YOU WANTED TO ENTERTAIN PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE THING IF I IF I COULD I JUST WANTED TO BECAUSE IT JUST CAME TO MIND HOW MANY TIMES, AFTER THE PRIDE GROUP.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SOLD ALL THESE FLAGS THAT HOMEOWNERS PUT ON THEIR LAWNS, HOW MANY WERE VANDALIZED, AND SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE IMMUNE.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TO GROUPS THAT ARE NOT REALLY SHARE THE SAME VALUES WE DO, AND SO I DO THINK THAT WE NEED A POLICY IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE LIKE THE LGBT Q.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I TOTALLY AGREE WITH CAROLYN I MINE WAS THAT SOMEHOW DISAPPEARED, AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT'S CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE NEED A POLICY, I MEAN, I GUESS, WE COULD AS WELL, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT FOR SURE WE SHOULD REPORT TO THE POLICE WHEN THINGS ARE TAKEN FROM OUR OUR.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, PRIVATE PROPERTY.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND IF I THINK JUST TO I'M SORRY THE THE TIMING OF THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO I THINK ALL OF US, AND FOR THAT REASON, AND WHAT JULIE JUST SAID THIS, THE INTENT IS AND THE.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: VERY IMPORTANT GOAL OF THIS IS TO HAVE THIS DONE IN MAY, SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY AGREE TO RAISE THE FLAG.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN JUNE, SO THE INTENT HERE IS TO GET THIS DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, WE ARE VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THOSE THAT ARE THAT ARE BRINGING THIS ISSUE FOURTH I THINK WE'VE ALREADY SAID THAT ALL OF US ON THE COUNCIL AGREE.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SUPPORT, SO I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THERE IS WIDE SUPPORT OR UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FOR THIS, BUT WE JUST WANT TO DO IT RIGHT AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT VERY QUICKLY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THERE HAS BEEN A FAIR AMOUNT OF RESEARCH DONE TO DATE, I APPRECIATE THE RESEARCH SARAH THAT YOU DID WITH WITH THE LENS THAT YOU HAD ON IT, BUT FOR THOSE OF US WHO.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS FIDUCIARIES WE'RE PROTECTING THE CITY, AS WELL AS SUPPORTING THIS CAUSE, YOU KNOW RESEARCH HAD TO BE DONE TO THAT END RIGHT AND SO THAT'S, THAT IS, IS THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE IS TO HOW DO WE ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO THIS, THAT WE IT DOESN'T GET UNDERMINED RIGHT AND AND WE DON'T OPEN THE CITY UP TO TO LEGAL ACTION AS WELL.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I AM HAVING MAJOR TECHNICAL ISSUES SO I'M AND I'M ON MY PHONE, WHICH IS ABOUT TO DIE SO I'M GOING TO LOG OFF AND COME BACK ON I JUST DIDN'T WANT THAT TO BE INTERPRETED SO SORRY ONE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OH OKAY, YES, CHRISTIAN IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, IF.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SUBJECT, AS ALWAYS, TO OUR A THREE MINUTE QUESTION, THEN I WOULD WELCOME THEM.

SUKI VAN DIJK: HI.

SUKI VAN DIJK: GARDEN YOU DRIVE I'VE LIVED HERE FOR A RIDICULOUSLY LONG TIME I THINK WE'RE ON 27 YEARS NOW, AND I JUST I NEEDED TO SAY HOW DISTURBED I AM BY THE LINGUISTIC SLEIGHT OF HAND THAT I JUST SAW DEMONSTRATED.

SUKI VAN DIJK: WE HEARD THAT THIS RAINBOW THE PRIDE FLAG WAS GOING TO BE THE FIRST FLAG FLOWN NOT AN AMERICAN FLAG ON OUR POLL, AT THE SAME TIME, WE HEARD THAT WE ARE FLYING THE MIA POW FLAG.

SUKI VAN DIJK: SO THIS ISN'T THE FIRST FLAG THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY WE ARE SPENDING MONEY ON THIS NOW WHY, IF THIS WAS SUCH AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION FOR EVERYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL THIS WASN'T DONE LAST JUNE, WHEN IT CAME UP, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THIS FIRM WAS CHOSEN.

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SUKI VAN DIJK: YOU'RE SPENDING $10,000 OF OUR MONEY ACCORDING TO A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, CHRISTINE BROUGHTY, WHO IS THE CO CHAIR OF THE NATIONAL TRANS BAR ASSOCIATION YOU'RE SPENDING IT UNNECESSARILY.

SUKI VAN DIJK: TO THE FLAG ISSUE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR OTHER ISSUES ARE, BUT ON THE FLAG WHEN I ASKED KRISTIN ABOUT THIS HER ANSWER WAS WOW THAT'S AN ABSURD ARGUMENT IT'S NOT BEEN MADE IN OTHER PLACES, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE AND.

SUKI VAN DIJK: THIS LINGUISTIC SLEIGHT OF HAND CONFLATING THIS WITH THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE MAY HAVE IS NO REASON FOR YOU TO SPEND OUR MONEY IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

SUKI VAN DIJK: AND IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN, WE CAN RAISE THE FLAG TOMORROW THAT WILL UNDO WE CAN AUTHORIZE RAISING THE FLAG TONIGHT IN JUNE.

SUKI VAN DIJK: BY A SIMPLE, THOUGH, WITH NO LEGAL EXPOSURE, OTHER THAN THE NORMAL LEGAL EXPOSURE TO I BELIEVE LAWYER COREY I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS LAST NAME SAID IN THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION.

SUKI VAN DIJK: MEETING LAST NIGHT ANYBODY CAN SUE ANYBODY FOR ANYTHING A MUNICIPALITY CAN BE SUED FOR JUST ABOUT ANYTHING BUT USING THAT AS A BIG LEAF TO FURTHER DELAY VOTING ON THIS IS OFFENSIVE TO ME, AND ALL OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WROTE LETTERS IN SUPPORT OF RAISING THIS FLAG.

SUKI VAN DIJK: I'D LIKE TO ALSO ASK THAT SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TELL US EXACTLY HOW MANY LETTERS THEY GOT.

SUKI VAN DIJK: IN SUPPORT OF RAISING THIS FLAG AND.

SUKI VAN DIJK: LINE OUT THE POLITICAL LUMINARIES THAT SUPPORT OUR RIGHT HIGH SCHOOL GSA ASKING YOU TO DO THIS, THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU NEXT SPEAKER.

FIONA DEGNAN: HI I'M.

FIONA DEGNAN: MY NAME IS FIONA DEGEN AND I LIVE AT 57 MOREHEAD DRIVE.

FIONA DEGNAN: I'M I'M A PART OF THE GSA I'M A JUNIOR HIGH HIGH SCHOOL SO I'M AT THE LAST AT THE ONE OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS WE MADE OUR CASE IN FAVOR OF THE PRIDE FLAG.

FIONA DEGNAN: AND, AS OUR THE LAST SPEAKER WAS JUST MENTIONING THERE HAS BEEN AN OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND FORM OF LETTERS AND THE FLOOD OF SUPPORT IS NOT GOING TO STOP I'M.

FIONA DEGNAN: PERSONALLY, I AM I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED PRIOR TO THIS MEETING BECAUSE BASED ON THE RESPONSE TO MY REQUEST TO ADD THE PRIDE FLAG TO THE AGENDA.

FIONA DEGNAN: I YOU KNOW EMAILED THE COUNCIL, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE VOTED ON AT TODAY'S MEETING THIS IS BECAUSE, WHEN THE MAYOR RESPONDED TO MY EMAIL REQUEST HE SAID.

FIONA DEGNAN: QUOTE I'VE ADDED A NEW ITEM THREE TO THE AGENDA FOR TOMORROW AND QUOTE IT WAS DISINGENUOUS TO RESPOND POSITIVELY TO REQUEST TO ADD AN ITEM WELL INSTEAD OF DRIVING THE CONVERSATION IN AN UNPRODUCTIVE DIRECTION.

FIONA DEGNAN: INSTEAD OF A VOTE, THERE IS CURRENTLY A DISCUSSION GOING ON OF HIRING A FIRST AMENDMENT COUNCIL THAT I DON'T FEEL RELATES TO THIS ISSUE AND IT IS A WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY.

FIONA DEGNAN: AS YOU KNOW, OTHER TOWNS THAT HAVE RAISED THE RED FLAG ON CITY PROPERTY, SUCH AS NEW ROCHELLE BED FOR WHITE PLAINS AND YONKERS HAVE NOT HAD ANY ISSUES, LEGAL OR OTHERWISE.

FIONA DEGNAN: AS ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WAS SAYING WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH A FORMER MEMBER OF THE TOWN BOARD OF BEDFORD WHO SAID IT WAS NOT AN ISSUE WHEN HE HELPED RAISE THE RED FLAG IN BEDFORD FOR THE FIRST TIME.

FIONA DEGNAN: LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE RYE YOUTH COUNCIL THE REACT STUDENT PREVENTION GROUP PRIDE.

FIONA DEGNAN: AND THE RIGHT COACH THE RIGHT COALITION FOR CHANGE AND OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE EXPRESSED SUPPORT REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE NATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION, ARE SUPPORTING THE GSA IN OUR EFFORTS.

FIONA DEGNAN: AS MENTIONED OUR COUNTY AND STATE REPRESENTATIVES GEORGE LATIMER SHELLEY MAYOR JAMAL BOWMAN, CATHERINE PARKER AND STEVE OTIS HAVE EACH COME OUT INDIVIDUALLY IN FAVOR OF RAISING THE PRIDE FLAG, THIS COMING JUNE.

FIONA DEGNAN: I'M SURE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND BY NOW THAT THIS IS THAT THIS IS A SIMPLE SHOW OF ACCEPTANCE AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR IT.

FIONA DEGNAN: AS A COMMUNITY, WE DO EXPECT OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO REPRESENT THE WISHES OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS, THIS IS NOT A FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE.

FIONA DEGNAN: AND IT SHOULD NOT BE A POLITICAL ISSUE, IT IS AN ISSUE WHEN YOU ACTIVELY AVOID SHOWING YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE LGBT Q PLUS COMMUNITY AND FOR KIDS TRYING TO MAKE THEIR VOICES HEARD THAT SENDS A MESSAGE.

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FIONA DEGNAN: I'D ALSO LIKE TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT THE MIA POW FLAG WAS BROUGHT UP AS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN ALLOWING THE PRIDE FLAG, IT WAS SAID THAT THIS ONE FLAG, THE PRIDE FLAG WOULD OPEN UP THE DOORS TO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT FLAGS, BUT THIS IS NOT THE FIRST FLAG.

FIONA DEGNAN: SO THANK YOU.

EASON KAMANDER: AMANDA THANK YOU.

EASON KAMANDER: HI.

EASON KAMANDER: THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK AGAIN UM I ALSO DID NOT KNOW THAT IT WOULD COST $10,000 TO PUT A PIPELINE UP ON A PUBLIC FLAGPOLE.

EASON KAMANDER: AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD TO THE POINTS THAT MANY OTHERS HAVE POINTED OUT, ABOUT HOW.

EASON KAMANDER: CLEARLY, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO FORCE THE CURRENT CITY GOVERNMENT TO PUT UP A PRIDE FLAG, BASED ON THE PRECEDENT SET BY THE PRISONER OF WAR FLAG.

EASON KAMANDER: AND BASED ON THAT ALONE, I THINK IT IS CLEAR TO SAY THAT NO FUTURE CITIZENS WILL BE ABLE TO FORCE FUTURE CITY COUNCIL'S TO PUT UP ANY OTHER FLAGS BASED ON PRECEDENT SET BY THE PRIDE FLAG BECAUSE AGAIN.

EASON KAMANDER: THIS IS FLAGS ON PUBLIC FLAG BALLS, BUT WE CAN TALK AND SEEM TO HAVE BEEN TALKING ALL DAY ABOUT THE PRECEDENT AND SLIPPERY SLOPES SET BY.

EASON KAMANDER: PUTTING THIS THIS FLAG UP I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PRECEDENT OF NOT DOING THIS BECAUSE PRECEDENT IS ALWAYS A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD.

EASON KAMANDER: AND WHAT THE MESSAGE THAT THIS WOULD SEND IS THAT.

EASON KAMANDER: IN THE VIEW OF THIS COUNCIL, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PRIDE FLAG AND ANY OF THE OTHER MALICIOUS FLAGS THAT YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT OR NO DIFFERENCE THAT YOU CAN DISCERN IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO SAY THAT THE PRIDE FLAG IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DO SUPPORT AND.

EASON KAMANDER: THE OTHER FLAGS OR NOT UM IT WHAT I'D LIKE TO LAND ON HERE IS THAT THE LAST TIME THAT WE SPOKE, WE TALKED ABOUT CONCERNS OVER AGAIN IF THIS ISSUE OF FUTURE FLAGS.

EASON KAMANDER: AND THERE WAS SOME IDEA THAT WE WOULD COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE ARM THE IMPLICATIONS AND ANY RESEARCH THAT WAS CONDUCTED AND SO I'D LIKE TO ASK.

EASON KAMANDER: WHILE IT'S COME TO LIGHT IS THIS 100% BASED ON THE THE BOSTON CASE, WHICH YOU MENTIONED ISN'T A DIFFERENT CIRCUIT AND A MUCH BIGGER CITY THAT HAS MANY, MANY MORE FLAGPOLES OR ARE WE BASING THIS ALL STILL ON SPECULATION SO SO YEAH IS, IS THERE ANY.

EASON KAMANDER: RESEARCH OR OR EVIDENCE TO BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE A PROBLEM THAT HAS HAS COME TO LIGHT, SINCE THE LAST TIME.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU NEXT SPEAKER.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST WANTED TO ACTUALLY IT SOUNDS LIKE ETHAN HAD ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THAT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, SINCE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS GOING ON, BUT I DID WANT TO ADD THAT BOSTON HAS HAD A PRIDE CELEBRATION, AND HAS FLOWN PRIDE FLAGS ON MUNICIPAL POLLS, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, IF NOT DECADES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: KIMMY ENERGY.

KIM IANNUCCI: THANK YOU HI MY NAME IS KIM I KNOW CHE I LIVE AT 16 BIRD STREET AND RYE I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR OVER 25 YEARS PERSONALLY MY HUSBAND ACTUALLY GREW UP AND RISE SO MUCH LONGER FOR HIM AND I'M ALSO ONE OF THE CO FOUNDERS OF THE RYE FAMILY PRIDE NETWORK, AND I DO HAVE.

KIM IANNUCCI: A TEENAGER WHO WAS 10S RIGHT HIGH SCHOOL WHO DOES IDENTIFY WITH THE LGBT Q PLUS COMMUNITY, AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT.

KIM IANNUCCI: I'M VERY SECOND AND DISGUSTED BY THE CONVERSATION TODAY OVER A PRIDE FLAG, THAT IS SUPPOSED TO SYMBOLIZE HOPE AND ACCEPTANCE FOR ALL ITS RESIDENTS.

KIM IANNUCCI: AND I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE REALLY REALIZE THAT WHAT THESE CHILDREN GO THROUGH, AND HOW BRAVE THEY ARE FOR COMING FORWARD.

KIM IANNUCCI: AND WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED HERE THERE'S NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THEIR FEELINGS IT DOESN'T VALIDATE THEM IT DOESN'T TOLD THEM THAT THEY MATTER.

KIM IANNUCCI: THEY DO MATTER, THEY ARE VALIDATED, THEY HAVE RIGHTS, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE REALITIES OF RYE.

KIM IANNUCCI: THE REALITIES OF RIGHT ARE WE HAVE MANY FAMILIES THAT ARE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND WILL DO ANYTHING TO SUPPORT THEIR CHILDREN AND I ASKED YOU THAT IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE IF YOU HAD A CHILD.

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KIM IANNUCCI: THAT WAS PART OF THAT GROUP.

KIM IANNUCCI: HOW WOULD YOU FEEL WHAT WOULD YOU TELL YOUR CHILD WHEN YOUR CHILD COMES TO YOU AND SAYS, THIS IS A HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE.

KIM IANNUCCI: WHY IS THERE, SO MUCH PREJUDICE AGAINST ME WHAT IS WRONG, WHAT HAVE I DONE TO DESERVE THIS IT'S DISGUSTING AND THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE.

KIM IANNUCCI: $10,000 OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO GO TO A LAW FIRM, SO THAT THE LAW FIRM CAN TELL YOU WHAT TO DO SO, YOU CAN HIDE BEHIND IT IT'S REVOLTING.

KIM IANNUCCI: I'M REALLY DISGUSTED AND I ASKED YOU I IMPLORE THAT YOU PLEASE REALIZE.

KIM IANNUCCI: WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TO THESE KIDS AND THESE FAMILIES, HERE WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY, IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND THEY DESERVE TO HAVE THE RESPECT.

KIM IANNUCCI: FROM THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY, AS YOU CAN SEE, BY THE PRIDE FLAGS THAT WERE PURCHASED LAST YEAR.

KIM IANNUCCI: THAT REALLY STOOD UP BOUGHT A FLAG PROUDLY DISPLAYED IT IN THE STORES DISPLAYED IT ON THEIR LAWNS SO TO MAKE IT INTO THIS WHOLE POLITICAL THING.

KIM IANNUCCI: TO HANG A FLAG IN THE IN THE TOWN SQUARE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THIS COMMUNITY IS CRAZY, I UNDERSTAND, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A POLICY, ABOUT THE OTHER FLAGS.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT.

KIM IANNUCCI: YOU WANT TO HANG UP THAT'S FINE BUT LET'S REMEMBER THESE KIDS LET'S PUT THESE KIDS FIRST AND FAMILIES FIRST AND LET'S SHOW THEM THAT THEY MATTER TO US AND YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE THAT FOR ONCE.

KIM IANNUCCI: THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ODESSA MILLBROOK.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: HELLO, I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE GSA AND I WOULD LIKE TO START, WHAT I WAS SAYING, BY SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD FROM A RECENT EMAIL FROM CHRIS BERDYCH THAT SAID, PUTTING UP A PRIDE FLAG WOULD BE HARDLY GROUNDBREAKING.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: AS YOU'VE SEEN BY ALL THE MEN'S MESSAGES AND MENTIONS DURING THIS MEETING, PUTTING UP A PRIDE FLAG IS NOT AN ISSUE, IT SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM, AND AS MAYOR COHEN SAID HIMSELF.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: OTHER CITIES AND OTHER STATES HAVE DONE THIS WITH NO ISSUE, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE EFFECTS BECAUSE OF DRAG QUEEN STORY OUR LAST YEAR, BUT YOU'RE CHOOSING TO FOLLOW A SPECIFIC.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: SUBSET OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH IT, WHILE THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE GOT THE RIGHT PRIDE FLAG LAST YEAR AND DISPLAYED IT WITH NO ISSUE YOU CHOOSE TO SAY THAT PUTTING UP THIS FLAG, WHICH IS THE LEAST YOU CAN DO FOR THE LGBT COMMUNITY AND RIGHT IS A PROBLEM.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: AND THIS IS NOT JUST A PROBLEM FOR RY YOUTH WE'RE ONLY COMING HERE AS THE GSA BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT IT.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: THERE ARE OTHER ADULTS, THERE ARE OTHER KIDS THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANT THIS AS WELL TO HAVE A MORE INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: AND, BY SAYING THAT A PRIDE FLAG WOULD REQUIRE LEGAL ISSUE WHEN THIS HAS ONLY BEEN AN ISSUE ONCE OUT OF ALL OF THE INSTANCES WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS ABSURD.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: IT IS JUST A FLAG, IT IS A REPRESENTATION OF NOT ONLY THE LGBT COMMUNITY.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: BUT OF ACCEPTANCE AND INCLUSIVE OF IT, AND IF YOU WANT RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO BE INCLUSIVE, YOU HAVE TO PUT UP THE FLAG, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SPEND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: AND IN REGARDS TO THE CIVIL RIGHTS FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP, I ACTUALLY LISTENED TO THE ENTIRETY OF THE MEETING AND PREPARATION FOR THIS.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: AND YOU CONTINUOUSLY HAVE USED THE SLIPPERY SLOPE FALLACY OF PUTTING UP ONE FLAG MEANS THAT PUTTING UP EVERY FLAG.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: THAT IS NOT TRUE, IT IS UP TO YOU, AS THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHAT FLAGS TO PUT UP AND INSTEAD OF TURNING CHANGING IT INTO A POLITICAL AGENDA.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I PRIDE FLAG IS AN ACCEPTANCE MESSAGE, IT IS A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED NOT SOME SORT OF POLITICAL AGENDA THAT WOULD CAUSE YOU TO ALSO HAVE TO PUT UP.

ODESSA MEULBROEK: THE CONSERVATIVE FLAG, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE DEBATING HERE WE'RE DEBATING ACCEPTING PEOPLE NOT THROWING A POLITICAL AGENDA, THANK YOU.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JOSH I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT THIS ISN'T ABOUT ACCEPTANCE OR LACK OF A SUB ACCEPTANCE, WE ARE CONFLATING THINGS HERE THAT ARE IT'S IT'S.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE DISHEARTENING TO ME, WE ARE TRYING TO DO THIS IN THE RIGHT WAY, IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS THIS THING THAT WE'RE HOPING TO CELEBRATE THAT PROTECTS THE CITY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LEGALLY, THIS IS NOT AN INDICTMENT AGAINST ANYONE AS BEN HAS SAID, AS FAR AS I KNOW, EVERYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL IS SUPPORT AS, AS EVIDENCED BY THE UNANIMOUS RESOLUTION WE PASSED LAST YEAR IN SUPPORT OF GAY PRIDE MONTH THE CONFLATING OF THIS IS.

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JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS MISINFORMED AND IT'S IT'S BECOMING REALLY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T I DON'T FIND IT THAT PRODUCTIVE TRUTHFULLY TO COMPLETE THOSE THINGS BECAUSE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE WERE TRYING TO DO THIS AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND TO BE ACCUSED OF BEING SOMEHOW NOT INCLUSIVE OR NOT WANTING TO DO THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT LISTENING TO THE WORDS THAT ARE BEING SAID.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE ARE TRYING TO DO THIS WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T UNDERMINE AND I'M NOT A FIRST AMENDMENT LAWYER SO MAYBE, THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE TALKING ARE AND KNOW BETTER.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT I WANT AN EXPERT TO TELL ME HOW DO WE DO THIS IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE, AND SO I JUST FOR THOSE OF US WHO DO CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THIS ISSUE TO BE SCOLDED AS AND PAINTED AS THOUGH WE DON'T IS A NOT TRUE AND TRUE AND AND BE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO THE INCLUSION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE RIGHT NOW, SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M PROUD OF THE KIDS FOR STANDING UP AND TALKING, I JUST WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT YOUR WORDS A LITTLE BIT AND KNOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS I'M.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TALKING YOU'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO, AS FAR AS I KNOW, ARE ON YOUR SIDE, SO YOU MAY NOT BELIEVE THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANY OTHER SPEAKERS.

HANNAH LUTZ: HI MY NAME IS HANNAH LET'S I'M FROM THE RYE HIGH SCHOOL GSA I JUST LIKE TO REMARK ON A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MAYOR COHEN, HAS SAID THROUGHOUT THE PAST 45 MINUTES.

HANNAH LUTZ: I'M SO, YOU SAID THAT THE BOSTON PRECEDENT DOES NOT APPLY, BECAUSE THE RESULTS ARE NOT FINAL FINAL, BUT THE RESULTS DON'T REALLY MATTER, BECAUSE THE CASE IT'S NOT ABOUT THE LGBT.

HANNAH LUTZ: LIKE IT'S ABOUT THIS CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY FLAG.

HANNAH LUTZ: AND SO THEY HAD NO ISSUE WHEN THEY WERE RAISING THE LGBT FLAG YEARS AND YEARS AGO BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT THE CASE IS ABOUT THEY ALREADY DID IT AND THEY WERE FINE WITH IT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.

HANNAH LUTZ: AND SO YOU SAY THAT THERE'S A LACK OF RELEVANT PRECEDENT WELL, YOU SAID THAT THE LAW FIRM YOU HIRED HAD EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN.

HANNAH LUTZ: RAISING FLAGS AND CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS SO IF THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED THAT MEANS SOMEWHERE THERE'S A PRECEDENT, AND I THINK YOU REALLY DON'T NEED TO HIRE YOUR OWN OBJECT YOUR OWN COUNSEL AND I'M SURE THAT THIS HAS BEEN ARGUED MANY, MANY TIMES, ALL OVER TIME, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

HANNAH LUTZ: ANOTHER THING YOU USE THE TERM MAYOR CONE USE THE EXACT WORDS FORCED TO YOU SAID YOU WOULD BE FORCED TO FLY ANY OTHER FLAGS AFTER THIS AND THAT JUST SIMPLY ISN'T TRUE YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE POWER TO.

HANNAH LUTZ: SHOOT IT DOWN BECAUSE THERE IS NO LAW ABOUT IT, SO YOU WILL THE PRECEDENT DOESN'T HOLD AS A LAW, AND SO, IF EVEN IF THE FUTURE SOMEONE TRIES TO.

HANNAH LUTZ: FLY A HATEFUL FLAG AND THEY USE THIS AS A PRECEDENT, YOU CAN SIMPLY SAY OH THAT DOESN'T WORK, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SAY THAT ANYTHING APPLIES ANYWHERE, OR IT DOESN'T APPLY ANYWHERE, AND IT REALLY IS ALL UP TO YOUR DISCRETION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: NATALIE OUR BACK.

NATALIE AUERBACH: HI I'M NATALIE ARE BACK 35 14TH AVENUE AND I'VE LIVED IN RYE, FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS, I THINK THAT, FROM THE WAY THE WE.

NATALIE AUERBACH: TALK ABOUT IT I'VE SEEN ON FACEBOOK, IT SEEMS LIKE RIGHT VALUES ITS RESIDENTS WHO'S BEEN HERE THE LONGEST BUT I'M NEW AND I'M STILL MAKING MY DETERMINATIONS ABOUT THE CITY.

NATALIE AUERBACH: AND I CONTINUE TO BE SHOCKED AND APPALLED OUR CITY DOES NOT SEEM EVALUATES INDIVIDUALS OR AT LEAST ANY THAT DON'T WALK A CERTAIN PATH THAT IS APPROVED OF HERE AND IT'S HORRIFYING.

NATALIE AUERBACH: I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY THIS DECISION IS ONLY BEING MADE NOW TO BRING IN OUTSIDE COUNSEL.

NATALIE AUERBACH: IT SEEMS THAT THE TIME WAS UP THE ESSENCE WHEN THE PRICE LAB WAS BROUGHT UP LAST YEAR AND WE ARE PAST THE DEADLINE NOW.

NATALIE AUERBACH: IT FEELS AS THOUGH THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO STEAMROLL THE COMMUNITY ENSURE THEM AND ENSURE THAT WE MISS ANOTHER MAY.

NATALIE AUERBACH: I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION THAT I KNOW SUKI RAISED ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE FOR THE FLAG AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE AGAINST THE FLAG, I THINK THAT IN AN ELECTION YEAR, ESPECIALLY TRANSPARENCY IS ESSENTIAL.

NATALIE AUERBACH: I WANT TO KNOW HOW QUICKLY THIS WILL HAPPEN, BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT WE ONLY HAVE NINE DAYS TO MAKE THE DECISION HOW QUICKLY, EVERYTHING WILL HAPPEN WITH THE LAW FIRM IN NINE DAYS SEEMS LIKE A REALLY SHORT STUDY AND A WASTE OF $10,000 OF TAXPAYER MONEY.

NATALIE AUERBACH: ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT A FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE IT'S A HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE.

NATALIE AUERBACH: IF THE COUNCIL WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY, AS HAS BEEN STATED, I THINK, LAWYERS, SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENGAGED LAST YEAR.

NATALIE AUERBACH: AND JUST PERSONALLY AS A MOTHER I DON'T THINK LECTURING STUDENTS ARE YOUTH WHO COME ON HERE, AND IF THEY ARE THEIR SOULS ON THEIR OPINIONS, IS FAIR, MAYBE THERE IS SUPPORT ON THE COUNCIL, BUT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEY CAN HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALLISON.

ALISON RELYEA: HI AM I UNMUTED CAN YOU HEAR ME.

ALISON RELYEA: OKAY HI ALLISON REALLY A LITTLE 12 HALSTEAD PLACE THANK YOU SO MUCH, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION TONIGHT.

ALISON RELYEA: IT SEEMS TO ME THAT MAYBE THERE'S SOME NEED TO SET A POLICY GOING FORWARD BUT AS PEOPLE HAVE EXPRESSED, I AM FINE I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING WHERE THE RISK IS WITH THIS PARTICULAR FLAG.

ALISON RELYEA: AND THAT YOU KNOW WITH THIS PARTICULAR FLAG, THAT I AM GOING TO READ WHAT IS FROM OUR NATIONAL ARCHIVES AND WHAT OUR PRESIDENTS HAVE SAID ABOUT THE PRIDE FLAG AND WHAT HAS MADE IT A HERITAGE MONTH WHEN IT'S SEVEN HERITAGE MONTHS.

ALISON RELYEA: AND I THIS FLAG IS PART OF OUR NATIONAL CULTURE IT'S IT'S PART OF WHAT'S RECOGNIZED, IF YOU WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT GOING.

ALISON RELYEA: FORWARD FOR HOW YOU PROCESS REQUESTS THAT'S OKAY, BUT I DON'T SEE THE RISK I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE AFRAID OF IF THE PRESIDENT AND THE SUPREME COURT ALREADY.

ALISON RELYEA: WE ALREADY ACCEPT PRIDE MONTH SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ THIS THIS IS FROM THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES IN EXPLAINING.

ALISON RELYEA: THIS MONTH IN JUNE OF 1969 PATRONS AND SUPPORTERS OF THE STONEWALL IN IN NEW YORK CITY STAGING UPRISING TO RESIST THE POLICE HARASSMENT AND PERSECUTION TO WHICH LGBT Q AMERICANS WERE COMMONLY SUBJECTED.

ALISON RELYEA: THIS UPRISING MARKS THE BEGINNING OF A MOVEMENT TO OUTLAW DISCRIMINATORY LAWS AND PRACTICES AGAINST LGBT Q AMERICANS.

ALISON RELYEA: LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL AND TRANSGENDER PRIDE MONTH COMMEMORATES THE EVENTS OF JUNE 1969 AND WORKS TO ACHIEVE EQUAL JUSTICE AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR LGBT Q AMERICANS IN 1998 PRESIDENT CLINTON ISSUED EXECUTIVE ORDER.

ALISON RELYEA: 13087 EXPANDING EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYMENT IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION BASED ON SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

ALISON RELYEA: ON JUNE 2 2000 PRESIDENT CLINTON ISSUED PROCLAMATION NUMBER 7316 FOR GAY AND LESBIAN PRIDE MONTH.

ALISON RELYEA: ON JUNE 1 2009 PRESIDENT OBAMA ISSUED PROCLAMATION NUMBER 8387 FOR LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL AND TRANSGENDER PRIDE MONTH.

ALISON RELYEA: IN THIS PROCLAMATION THE PRESIDENT POINTED TO THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY LGBT Q AMERICANS BOTH AND PROMOTING EQUAL RIGHTS TO ALL REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION OR GENDER IDENTITY.

ALISON RELYEA: AND IN BROADER INITIATIVES, THE PRESIDENT ENDED THE PROCLAMATION BY CALLING UPON THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES TO TURN BACK DISCRIMINATION AND PREJUDICE EVERYWHERE IT EXISTS.

ALISON RELYEA: SO I JUST CLOSE BY WONDERING, FIRST OF ALL I AM SO PROUD OF THESE STUDENTS AND THEY WERE INCREDIBLY INCREDIBLY POWERFUL AND WHAT THEY EXPRESS TONIGHT, BUT I ALSO JUST WONDER WHAT WE'RE AFRAID OF WITH THIS FLAG RIGHT NOW WHY CAN'T YOU VOTE.

THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: GENEVIEVE WEBER.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): I HI EVERYBODY I'M GENEVIEVE WEBER RESIDENT MOM THREE GIRLS AND CO FOUNDER OF PRIDE COMMUNITY GROUP, AND LET ME JUST REMIND THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING OR LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW PRIVATE COMMUNITY GROUP WAS FOUNDED.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): BY SIX MOTHERS WHO CAME TOGETHER AND WITH VERY SIMILAR FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS THAT THAT ARE BEING EXPRESSED NOW AFTER DRAG QUEENS STORY HOUR.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): AND IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH US PLANNING THAT ARE BEING INVOLVED, BUT IT WAS THE AFTER.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): THE AFTERMATH SENIOR RELIGIOUS GROUPS ON ON THE ON THE TOWN'S GREEN AND, TO BE HONEST, SEEING A LACK OF ACTION ON THIS PART OF CITY OF THE CITY.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): TO TO COME FORWARD AND SUPPORT THE YOUTH SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AND TAKE ACTION SO WE CAME TOGETHER HAVING FULL TIME JOBS, WE CAME TOGETHER AND CREATED THIS GROUP.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): AND HAVE RAISED MONEY AND IMPLEMENTED A FLAG SALE WERE FIVE OF US AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS DELIVERED ON BICYCLES 300 FLEX WHERE IS THE CITY AND I APPRECIATE THE CELEBRATION, YOU GAVE US IN JUNE, IT WAS A PHENOMENAL DAY PHENOMENAL.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): BUT IT WAS IN PLACE OF THE FLAG RAISING AND I SAID SHE AMERICAN I SAID MARE I'LL BE BACK WE'LL BE BACK, AND WE ARE BACK, WE HAVE WORKED VERY WELL THIS YEAR.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): I HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH MANY INDIVIDUALS ON THE SCREEN.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): BUT WHAT I'VE SEEN TONIGHT IS IS MY PHONE IS BLOWING UP AND I WANT TO INTRODUCE IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT INTENT VERSUS IMPACT.

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DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): ALL OF YOU MIGHT INTEND WITH INTENTION THINKING THAT YOU'RE PORTRAYING A VERY INCLUSIVE PERSPECTIVE, AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU, IN YOUR HEART OF HEARTS.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): DO FEEL THE WAY THAT I HOPE YOU FEEL BUT LET'S NOT PAINT A PICTURE THAT LAST YEAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING, EVERYBODY EXPRESSED SIMILAR SENTIMENTS.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): AND I WANT YOU JUST FOR A MOMENT, EMBRACE AND REFLECT ON THE IMPACT YOU'RE HEARING THESE YOUTH SAY SEE ME TAKE A RISK.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): SHOW THAT FLED TO HELP ME BELONG I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH THIS WEEK ON THAT BOSTON CASE BOSTON HAS RAISED 284 FLAGS, THE CHRISTIAN GROUP THAT CAME FORWARD IS NOT ABOUT THE INEQUITY WITH THE PRIDE FLAG.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): THEY SPOKE ABOUT INTERNATIONAL AND COUNTRY FLAGS HAVING SYMBOLISM WITHIN THOSE FLAGS THAT WERE RELIGIOUS AND THE INEQUITY WAS THERE.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): I I AM SHOCKED THAT WE ARE WHERE WE ARE WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING, THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY, AMERICA HAD ASKED ME TO MEET WITH THE KIDS.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): TO MEET WITH THE KIDS AND I WENT TO THE YOUTH, AND I SAID THE MAYOR WANTS TO SPEAK WITH YOU, HE WANTS TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION WITH YOU.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): HE WANTS TO LET YOU KNOW HOW HE FEELS AND THEY SAID THERE WILL BE NO SIDE CONVERSATIONS, THIS WILL BE PUBLIC, THIS WILL BE TRANSPARENT AND IT WILL BE EMBRACED BY THE COMMUNITY.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): THESE CHILDREN ARE ACTIVISTS, THEY ARE BEYOND THEIR YEARS THEY ARE FUTURE AND THEY ARE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): 13 YEARS I'VE LIVED IN THIS TOWN 13 YEARS BUT HERE'S THE DEAL, I SAID I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT I FEEL LIKE THROWING MYSELF IN THE MIDDLE OF MEDICINE AND LAYING THERE IN SCREAMING FOR THIS FLAG, BECAUSE HOW THIS WENT TONIGHT I I AM BEYOND WORDS.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): BECAUSE I MEET WITH THESE CHILDREN EVERY WEEK ON ON THE FRONT LINE WITH THESE OTHER MOMS IN THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, I AM.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): RECEIVING THE EMAILS FROM FAMILIES SAYING MY KID IS QUESTIONING WHAT DO I DO DON'T REVEAL MY NAME BECAUSE RY IS UNSAFE FAMILIES ARE MOVING OUT OF THIS TOWN.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): KIDS ARE GOING TO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, BECAUSE RIGHT HIGH SCHOOL IS NOT SAFE ENOUGH FOR THEM.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): YOU WANT TO HAVE COFFEE AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING THIS COMMUNITY YOU MEET WITH THE CO FOUNDERS OF PRIME PRIME YOU MEET WITH NANCY FOR SQUALL YOU MEET WITH THE SOCIAL WORKERS ARE VERY HIGH SCHOOL SO LET'S NOT CONTINUE TO HIDE BEHIND THIS BLANKET OF LEGAL.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): WHEN.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): I HAVE TO STOP BECAUSE I, LIKE YOU, ALL I DO I, LIKE YOU ALL, BUT THE COUNCIL IS THAT WORKING VERY GOOD TONIGHT I'M GOING TO ENJOY.

DR. GENEVIEVE WEBER (SHE/HER): I LOVE YOU KIDS.

KRISTEN WILSON: WE ARE CIRCLING BACK AROUND TO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN.

SUKI VAN DIJK: THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AGAIN SOON EVENT A 62 GARDEN DRIVE RIGHT NEW YORK LONG TERM RESIDENT AND I NEED TO ANSWER WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER JULIE SOUZA SAID.

SUKI VAN DIJK: HOW DO WE DO THIS, WE DO THIS THE WAY EVERYBODY ELSE DOES THIS IS NOT WE ARE THE WORDS THAT I HAVE HEARD FROM THIS CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT.

SUKI VAN DIJK: PRETENDING THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF LEGAL EXPOSURE THAT RYE HAS NOTICED THAT NO ONE ELSE, NOT OUR COUNTRY, NOT OUR COUNTY NOT OUR STATE NOT OUR NEIGHBORS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL FIRST AMENDMENT SPEND TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO DO THIS.

SUKI VAN DIJK: IS INSULTING TO THE INTELLIGENCE OF THE POPULATION, HOW DO WE DO THIS THE WAY EVERYBODY ELSE DOES WE PUT UP THE FLAG, THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK WE SHOULD.

KRISTEN WILSON: HAVE.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE SIX OR SEVEN MORE HANDS RAISED, MR MAYOR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE HAVE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANOTHER WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WAITING WITH.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MORE THAN 70 PEOPLE I WOULD GUESS.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MAY OR MAY I'M MAKE A MOTION I.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MAKE A SUGGESTION.

YEAH I.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CAN HEAR YOU.

EASON KAMANDER: HI JUST REALLY QUICK, I WANTED TO, I WANTED TO RESPOND TO THE ONE THING THAT IT SEEMS LIKE GOT ANY RESPONSE.

EASON KAMANDER: BEFORE SO.

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EASON KAMANDER: IF IT'S IF YOU GUYS WANT TO TO GO AHEAD WITH THE THE $10,000 LAWYER DEAL IT'S NOT MY MONEY AND.

EASON KAMANDER: I THINK THAT THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE, BUT I WANTED TO SPELL OUT REALLY CLEAR, I THINK THE REASON THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ASSUMED THAT SOME OF THE THINGS PEOPLE HAVE SAID TODAY.

EASON KAMANDER: SEEMED TO BE COMING FROM A DIRECTION OF BAD FAITH IS THAT THIS LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE FIRST STEP IN MOVING PAST SOMETHING WITHOUT A RESOLUTION.

EASON KAMANDER: AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IF WE IF YOU DO DECIDE TO DO THIS IF YOU DO DECIDE TO SPEND MONEY ON THE LAWYERS, THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A TOOL USED TO PUSH THINGS DOWN THE ROAD AND STALL THIS FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

EASON KAMANDER: AND SO I WANT TO ASK JUST AGAIN, IS THERE ANY ANY EVIDENCE OR OR REASONING BEHIND THE THE RISK HERE, YOU KNOW, PREFERABLY IN THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO BOSTON AND RESTATE THAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT AGAIN AND THEN.

EASON KAMANDER: ALSO, ABOUT THIS ABOUT.

EASON KAMANDER: WHAT WHAT THE POSSIBLE OUTCOMES OF THIS COULD BE SO IF WE ARE GOING TO SPEND THIS $10,000 UM.

EASON KAMANDER: ARE THEY GOING TO ARE YOU GOING TO THEN TURN AROUND AND SAY OKAY IT'S TOO LATE NOW FOR JUNE WE'VE SPENT THAT'S.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WAS SAID AT THIS, SO I JUST WANT TO STEP BACK AGAIN ON THIS, THE MONEY THAT WE AUTHORIZE TO SPEND IS SO THAT WE COULD GET.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND WE SAID, THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF RESEARCH IN THE BACKGROUND TO GET US TO THE POINT, SO THAT WE CAN GET BACK FROM LAWYERS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: A RESPONSE THAT GIVES US THE PROTECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS EFFORT DOES NOT GET UNDERMINED, SO THAT WE CAN VOTE ON THIS IN TIME FOR JUNE, THAT IS THE OBJECTIVE HERE, SO I JUST I'M I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE THE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE TREE ALL IN THIS, BECAUSE THESE ARE YOU'RE LOOKING AT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND TRYING TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS THE CITY BECAUSE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE ARE NOT FIRST AMENDMENT, LAWYERS, WE ARE NOT, BUT WE ARE FIDUCIARIES OF THE CITIES, WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE CITY AND WE WANT TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND, YES, MAYBE EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING IT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I MEAN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR LAWS ARE IN THEIR MINIONS MUNICIPALITIES AND AND I KNOW THAT WE WE ARE EXPOSED HERE, SO WE WANT TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND WE'RE WANTING TO DO IT IN TIME, THAT IS, THE INTENT HERE SO IT'S IT'S GETTING TWISTED IT'S REALLY DISHEARTENING.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND DISAPPOINTING TO ME BUT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE INTENT IS THERE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS.

EASON KAMANDER: I HAVE TO SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE HEARING THAT AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE THE RESEARCH THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE MEANTIME AND ALSO IF IT'S POSSIBLE I'D LOVE TO HEAR SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF.

EASON KAMANDER: ENDS UP DON'T HEAR SOMETHING SPECIFIC FROM LAWYERS, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ALONG WITH THIS REGARDLESS BECAUSE OF WHAT I'M WORRIED, IS THAT WE WILL END UP IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS NOT SUFFICIENT INFORMATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEN THE DATE PASSES.

EASON KAMANDER: SO IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR LIKE IF WE DON'T HEAR BACK IN TIME.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S NOT WHAT WE I'M SORRY I KNOW WE'RE OVER THE TIME LIMIT SO I'LL I'LL SAY THIS AND THEN LET YOU GO.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: KNOW THAT THE MANDATE, THE MANDATE TO THE LAWYER IS GET US GET THIS BACK TO US WITHIN TWO WEEKS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RIGHT AND THEY'VE WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THEM AND PREPPED THEM AND HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO SOLVE, WE DID.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE'RE GOING TO TWEAK IT SLIGHTLY ON SOME GOOD ADVICE FROM FROM COUNCILMEMBER TARLOW SO THAT WE CAN EVEN MAYBE JUST GET LIKE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE LAW THAT WE WOULD ENACT THAT WOULD FURTHER PROTECT US, SO THE WHOLE WE'RE DRIVING TOWARDS THE OBJECTIVE THAT YOU WANT, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE DOING YES.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S SLOW, YES, IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO DO THIS RESEARCH AND TO FIND QUALIFIED LAWYERS THAT YOU THINK ARE ALL OF THIS, I UNDERSTAND THE IMPATIENT SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING I'M.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HOPE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO I MEAN THAT THE MY INTENT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE RAISE THE FLAG IN JUNE AND THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FROM LAWYERS, SO I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS NOBODY'S TRYING THIS ISN'T A STALL TACTIC THIS ISN'T ANYTHING LIKE THAT IT IS DRIVING TOWARD WHAT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT YOU WANT, WHAT I WANT RIGHT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS DOING AND SO.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I KNOW IF YOU KNOW THINGS MOVE SLOWLY, BUT WE, WE HAVE TIME AND WE MADE SURE WE HAD TIME AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS SO, WE SHOULD KEEP GOING THROUGH THESE.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PARTICIPANTS BECAUSE I ACTUALLY JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT WHEN OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY WE THAT JUST TO DISTINGUISH THAT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ME AND I DON'T KNOW IF OTHERS HAVE THEIR OWN VIEWS ON IT, BUT.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DO NOT SEE, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE DO NOT SEE THE NEED FOR LEGAL COUNSEL AND WHEN WE SAY.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHEN WHEN SOME I THINK A COUNCIL MEMBER SUSAN SAYS THAT WE ARE EXPOSED, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT THE THAT THE CITY.

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SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS EXPOSED, SO I.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST WANT TO JUST MAKE THAT DISTINCTION I'M GOING TO STOP TALKING, BECAUSE WE REALLY DO NEED TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT'S RARE YOU HAVE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT YOU HAVE EIGHT HAND RAISED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LET'S TAKE ONE WHAT ONE MORE FOR SECOND ROUND WE WE REALLY HAVE TO WE HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE WAITING ON THE NEXT ISSUE OKAY.

KRISTEN WILSON: I DON'T BELIEVE AMANDA YOUR NET HAS SPOKEN YET SO SHE'S THE NEXT HAND RAISED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: VERY GOOD.

AMANDA YANNETT: I MEAN YOU KNOW, I WAS THERE I RESIDENT FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND.

AMANDA YANNETT: I GUESS THE FIRST COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE IS TO THANK ALL OF THE STUDENTS THAT CAME ON TODAY TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE I KNOW THAT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE.

AMANDA YANNETT: AND IN REGARDS TO THAT.

AMANDA YANNETT: I'M HONESTLY DISTURBED BY SOME OF THE.

AMANDA YANNETT: REACTIONS, EVEN THROUGH THE FACIAL EXPRESSIONS AS THEY'VE BEEN TALKING.

AMANDA YANNETT: YOU GUYS ARE CLAIMING THAT YOU WANT THIS FIVE RAISE BUT, AS THEY WERE TALKING THE REACTIONS DID NOT ALIGN WITH THAT AND.

AMANDA YANNETT: IT'S THOSE MICRO AGGRESSIONS THAT ADD UP THAT MAKE.

AMANDA YANNETT: STUDENTS AND PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS NOT FEEL WELCOMED IN THIS TOWN BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO SAY SOMETHING RIGHT IT'S EASY TO SAY OH, WE WANT A PRIDE FLAG RAISED.

AMANDA YANNETT: IT'S NOT EASY TO TAKE THAT STEP AND HAVE THAT COURAGE TO SAY YOU KNOW WE ARE GOING TO RAISE THE FLAG AND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT COURAGE.

AMANDA YANNETT: AND AMANDA YANNETT: YOU GUYS HAVE SAID THAT YOUR JOB IS TO ALSO PROTECT THE CITY, BUT YOUR JOB, AS IS ALSO TO LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS HERE TODAY ARE TELLING YOU THEY WANT THE PRIDE FLAG RAISED.

AMANDA YANNETT: BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE YOUR MINDS MADE UP THAT YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE LAWYER HOW THAT ALL DONE.

AMANDA YANNETT: WHEN REALLY IT'S LIKE YOU GUYS NEED TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO RAISE THE FLAG, I MEAN, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT TOWNS HAVE HAD ALL THESE ISSUES THAT WERE WORRYING ABOUT.

AMANDA YANNETT: HOW MANY TIMES I'VE HAD PEOPLE COME AND SAY WE WANT TO RAISE THE NAZI FLAG OR WE WANT TO RAISE THE CONFEDERATE FLAG IS THAT EVEN HAPPENING OR ARE WE JUST BEING AFRAID.

AMANDA YANNETT: AND, AND LIKE COUNCILMEMBER TARLOW SAID, WE CAN RAISE THIS FLAG AND THEN CREATE A POLICY THAT'S NOT OFF THE TABLE HERE, BUT I FULLY AGREE, ALSO WITH COUNCILMEMBER.

AMANDA YANNETT: GOOD ART OF LIKE WE DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH A LAWYER TO RAISE THIS FLAG AND I'M AFRAID THAT WE'RE SPENDING ALL OF OUR TIME BEING SCARED AND GOING AND YOU'RE WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS, WHEN WHAT I'M AFRAID OF IS MY COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

AMANDA YANNETT: SUFFERING FROM MENTAL ILLNESS NOT FEELING ACCEPTED NOT FEELING INCLUDED AND RIGHT THAT'S WHAT I WORRY ABOUT I DON'T I DON'T.

AMANDA YANNETT: I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND MY TIME WORRYING ABOUT THESE HYPOTHETICALS THAT ARE NOT EVEN HAPPENING IN ALL OF THE TOWNS AROUND US THAT HAVE RAISED A FLAG.

AMANDA YANNETT: WHAT I'M GOING TO WORRY ABOUT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING AND THAT'S OUR LGBT Q PLUS COMMUNITY MEMBERS SUFFERING FROM MENTAL ILLNESS AND NOT FEELING INCLUDED IN OUR TOWN.

AMANDA YANNETT: AND IT'S, NOT JUST IN PATIENTS HERE IT'S ABOUT ACTUALLY TAKING A BOLD STANCE AND SUPPORTING OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND LIKE GENEVIEVE SAID IT'S AN INTENSE VS IMPACT HERE, YOU MIGHT INTEND TO WANT TO SUPPORT THE MEMBERS.

AMANDA YANNETT: BUT THE IMPACT HERE IS YOU'RE NOT YOU, YOU NEED TO TAKE THAT BOLD STANCE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M TOLD THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT SPOKEN BEFORE WHO HAVE THEIR HANDS UP.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MR MAYOR, I UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING COMING UP, BUT THIS CLEARLY IS A TOPIC OF HAVE MUCH.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY, AND IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD MAYBE COME BACK AT THE END OF THE OF THE EVENING AND SLOT IN THOSE WHO MIGHT WANT TO CONTINUE SPEAKING BECAUSE I IT'S KIND OF I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME WHO'VE SPOKEN BEFORE BUT.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT JUST IT WOULD BE IT'D BE NICE TO KIND OF HAVE EVERYBODY HAVE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK AND I ABSOLUTELY GET THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD WE COULD ADD IN ANOTHER TIME TONIGHT TO TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JUST LET ME TAKE A LOOK.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH FREE MOVE IT TO THE END OF THE AGENDA THAT'S THAT SEEMS RIGHT SARAH.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YEAH I THINK OUR NEXT HEARING, I THINK, WILL BE A LONG ONE, SO I CAN'T PREDICT A TIME BUT WE'LL MAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE AT THE END.

GOOD SUGGESTION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, SO.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I WAS GONNA SAY THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAD NOT SPOKEN YET, THOUGH, I THINK.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THEY'RE JUST.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TESTING GAP WE WE TRUNCATE NOW I'M I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY TO HAVE THE TWO HAVEN'T SPOKEN BEFORE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK IT'S MORE THAN THAT OUT NOW, THOUGH JOSH LOOKING AT IT SO MAYBE WE JUST MOVE IT ALL TO THE END.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YEAH I THOUGHT WE WERE ALREADY IN REPEATERS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH BUT THERE YEAH THERE'S A MIX THERE OKAY ALL RIGHT SO WE'LL GET THEM AT THE END THAT'S FINE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THE REST OF THE SPEAKERS ON THIS AND ABEYANCE AND WE'LL GO TO RESIDENTS MAY BE HEARD ON MATTERS FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT OH I'M SORRY I SKIPPED THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT A NEW LOCAL LAW TO IMPLEMENT A SIX MONTH MORATORIUM IN THE CITY OF RYE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TEMPORARILY PROHIBITING THE REVIEW PROCESSING OR APPROVAL OF ANY NEW APPLICATION RELATED TO A SUBDIVISION FOR RECEPTIVE VISION OF PROPERTY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OR ALTERNATIVE PROHIBITING THE ISSUANCE OF ANY BUILDING PERMITS FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT ON SUBDIVISION PLATTS FILE DAY AFTER JUNE 1 2020.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: DEVELOPMENT ON STEEP SLOPES OR THE PLACEMENT OF RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE WITH ITS FRONT, IT NOT ORIENTED TOWARDS THE FRONT YARD FOR THE DURATION OF THIS MORATORIUM.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY.

SARA GODDARD RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S SORRY TO INTERRUPT AND I PROMISE NOW YOU WON'T HAVE TO HEAR ME I'M RECUSING MYSELF, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE, WE SHOULD, I THINK, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, I KNOW THAT KRISTEN AND CHRISTIAN HAVE PUT TOGETHER, JUST A FEW SLIDES TO SET THE STAGE, AND IF WE COULD DO THAT IT WOULD BE GREAT.

KRISTEN WILSON: THANK YOU, MR MAYOR, I WILL ATTEMPT TO SHARE MY SCREEN HERE.

KRISTEN WILSON: OKAY, CAN EVERYONE SEE THIS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO, NO, NOT YET NO.

NO.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES.

GREAT.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO, FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER THE INTENT OF THE MORATORIUM SO IT'S CLEAR BOTH TO THE TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE PUBLIC THAT'S WATCHING.

KRISTEN WILSON: THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT THE MORATORIUM IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS THE FIRST BEING FLAGGED LOTS.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT IS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS REGARDING THE CONFIGURATION OF PROPERTIES PROPOSED WITHIN SUBDIVISIONS, AND THE MANEUVERING OF LOT LINES TO CREATE FLAG LOTS THAT MAY MEET THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS, BUT NOT THE INTENT OF THIS CITY ZONING CODE AND LAND USE REGULATIONS.

KRISTEN WILSON: SECOND TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS ON STEEP SLOPES, AND THIS IS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS REGARDING THE POTENTIAL IMPACT THAT DEVELOPMENT HAS ON PROPERTY THAT IS ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSTRAINED THE STEEP SLOPES.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT'S ALSO TREE LOSS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS ABOUT TREE LOSS AND DESTRUCTION OCCURRING PRIOR TO ANY SUBSTANTIVE REVIEW BY THE CITY LAND USE SPORTS.

KRISTEN WILSON: HOUSE ORIENTATION, THIS IS ADDRESSING CONCERNS REGARDING RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOT CITED ON PROPERTY AND PROPER RELATIONSHIP TO KNOW TO AN IMPROVED RIGHT AWAY OR STREET WHICH CAN NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CHARACTER AND HARMONY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO OVERALL, AS STATED IN THE MORATORIUM, IT SAYS, WHEREAS THE CITY COUNCIL HAS DETERMINED THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE TO REVIEW THE CITY'S EXISTING ZONING CODE AND OTHER LAND USE REGULATIONS.

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KRISTEN WILSON: RELATING TO THE ABOVE OBSERVATIONS TO ENSURE THAT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE PRESERVED AND THAT ANY SUBDIVISION OR RE SUBDIVISION OF PROPERTY.

KRISTEN WILSON: DEVELOPMENT ON STEEP SLOPES MANEUVERING OF LOT LINES OR SIGHTING OF RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ON LOTS AS APPROPRIATE AND ADDRESSES ANY ENVIRONMENTAL VISUAL OR OTHER RELEVANT CONSIDERATIONS.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS TO PROPOSE MORATORIUM THAT ARE PUT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL IS INTENDING ON OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON BOTH.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE FIRST IS WHAT I WILL REFER TO AS APRIL 7 2021 OPTION THIS MORATORIUM WOULD PREVENT THE PROCESSING OF THE FOLLOWING PERMITS APPLICATIONS OR APPROVALS FILED AFTER APRIL 7 2021.

KRISTEN WILSON: ANY SUBDIVISION OR RE SUBDIVISION APPLICATION.

KRISTEN WILSON: ANY ADMINISTRATIVE LAW OUTLINE ADJUSTMENTS OFTEN REFERRED TO AS APPORTIONMENT.

KRISTEN WILSON: ANY WETTELAND AND WATER COURSE PERMIT AREA VARIANCE DESIGN REVIEW PERMIT BUILDING PERMIT TREE REMOVAL PERMIT SEDIMENT AND EROSION CONTROL PERMANENT.

KRISTEN WILSON: LASTING PERMIT OR ROCK REMOVAL PERMIT INVOLVING ANY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING OR STRUCTURE THAT INCLUDES GROUND OR VEGETATION DISTURBANCE WITHIN 20 FEET OF SLOPES GREATER THAN 25%.

KRISTEN WILSON: ANY APPLICATION, INVOLVING A NEW RESIDENTIAL BUILDING THAT DOES NOT HAVE ITS FRONT, FACING A FRONT YARD.

KRISTEN WILSON: WHOO WE WOULD BEST DESCRIBE AS A SIDEWAYS HOUSE.

KRISTEN WILSON: IMPORTANT NOTE THAT THIS WILL NOT IMPACT APPLICATIONS FILED AFTER APRIL 7 AND APPROVE BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS MORATORIUM.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE SECOND OPTION IS WHAT I WOULD REFER TO AS THE JUNE 1 2020 OPTION AND INCLUDES ALL THE PROVISIONS I JUST WENT THROUGH ON THE PRIOR SLIDE.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT IT IS ALSO RETROACTIVELY APPLIED TO ANY APPROVED CITY OF RICE SUBDIVISION WHOSE PLAN WAS FILED IN THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY OFFICE OF LAND RECORDS AFTER JUNE 1 2020.

KRISTEN WILSON: OTHER DETAILS THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE OF.

KRISTEN WILSON: THIS IS DRAFTED AS A SIX MONTH MORATORIUM OR UNTIL SUCH TIME AS NEW LEGISLATION IS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO ACT PRIOR TO THAT SIX MONTH TIME FRAME THE MORATORIUM WOULD EXPIRE, IT DOES ALSO ALLOW FOR AN ADDITIONAL 108 80 DAY EXTENSION IF.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE COUNCIL NEEDS IT.

KRISTEN WILSON: A MORATORIUM DOES PROVIDE FOR AN APPEAL OR WAIVER PROCESS FOR PARTIES AGGRIEVED BY THE MORATORIUM.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE WAIVER PETITIONS WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY OF RIDE PLANNING COMMISSION AT ONE OF ITS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS, THE MORATORIUM DOES INCLUDE SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR WAIVER CONSIDERATIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD WOULD APPLY.

KRISTEN WILSON: A MORATORIUM IS OFFICIALLY A LOCAL LAW DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC NOTICE AND A PUBLIC HEARING THE HEARING IS THIS EVENING AND IT'S THEY'RE BEING CONDUCTED SIMULTANEOUSLY ON ON BOTH VERSIONS.

KRISTEN WILSON: LET ME ONE MORE TORREON CAN BE ADOPTED.

KRISTEN WILSON: IF A MORATORIUM IS APPROVED BY THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL, THE MORATORIUM WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE UPON FILING WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT'S IT.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT'S THE MORATORIUM, IN A NUTSHELL, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

KRISTEN WILSON: I'M SURE CHRISTIAN OR I COULD.

KRISTEN WILSON: COULD FEEL THEM, OTHERWISE MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL IS TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: QUESTIONS ANYONE.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I HAVE A COUPLE, FIRST OF ALL, WHERE DID WE GET THE JUNE 2020 DATE TRUMP.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO THAT CAME FROM FROM STAFF, AND IT WAS.

KRISTEN WILSON: ARRIVED AT MILLION CONSULTATION AND REVIEW OF WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD APPROVED PREVIOUSLY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WITH COVEN IN PLACE, NOT EVERYTHING WAS FILED OR ACCEPTED BY THE COUNTY CLERK THINGS WERE DELAYED QUITE A BIT SO WE WENT BACK APPROXIMATELY.

KRISTEN WILSON: NOT EVEN QUITE YOU KNOW I GUESS THE THE TIME FRAME WAS SOMETIME BETWEEN YOU KNOW WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD HAVE ACTED AND THE IMPACT OF CODE AND FILING TIMES SO THAT'S WHERE THE DATE CAME FROM.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MY SORRY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: GO AHEAD PEN.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR CHRISTIAN, COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR AN APPROVAL, HOW MANY STEPS ARE TAKEN TO GET TO THAT APPROVAL AND WHERE YOU THINK THE ISSUES ARE THAT WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING IN THIS MORATORIUM.

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CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: OKAY, WHICH WHICH APPROVAL, ARE YOU SPEAKING OF.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO START WITH THE MAP APPROVAL RIGHT.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY DESIGN APPROVAL, WHICHEVER YOU THINK MAKES SENSE.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: OKAY, SO IN THE INSTANCE OF A SUBDIVISION.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: A SUBDIVISION IS PRESENTED TO THE RICE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION IT FOLLOWS THE SUBDIVISION RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT ARE IN THE CITY CODE.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THEY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE WITH ZONING IT GOES TO A SUBDIVISION PROCESS THAT REQUIRES HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE ALL PUBLIC.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THERE'S A MANDATORY PUBLIC HEARING IF THE SUBDIVISION IS APPROVED ZONING COMPLIANT AND ALL THE RELATED MATERIALS, THE MAP.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND THIS IS A FUNCTION OF STATE LAW HAS TO BE FILED IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY LAND RECORDS OFFICE AND TO BE OFFICIALLY RECORDED.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND THAT'S NOT JUST THE APPROVAL BY THE CITY KEPT BY THE PARENT COMMISSION BUT ALSO THEN RECORD IT IN THE LAND RECORDS OFFICE, NOT ALL APPROVALS OF VARIOUS SPORTS HAVE THAT BUT SUBDIVISIONS DO.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO CHRISTIAN THAT THAT JUNE DATE THAT WE'RE GOING BACK TO THAT'S IN THE RETROACTIVE LAW GOES BACK TO THE APPROVAL OF A SUBDIVISION SO THIS SUBDIVISION COULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN MARCH OR APRIL OR MAY.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THEN FILE.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YUN YEAH GENERALLY, YOU KNOW AS KRISTEN SAID AND COVEN MADE SOME THINGS UNIQUE, BUT THESE ARE APPROVALS THAT WERE DONE IN THE LAST APPROXIMATELY THE YEAR 2020 OR LATE 2019.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND THERE WERE TWO SUBDIVISIONS THAT WERE AFFECTED BY THAT, IN THIS INSTANCE.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN YOUR EXPERIENCE WHEN SOMEBODY GETS TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO DO A SUBDIVISION IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THEY PLAN AHEAD, FOR I MEAN THEY HIRE AN ENGINEERING FIRM CORRECT THERE'S A QUITE A BIT OF COST ASSOCIATED IT'S QUITE A LONG PROCESS IS THAT TRUE CHRISTIAN.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IT'S AN INVOLVED PROCESS THAT ALMOST ALWAYS REQUIRES THE ASSISTANCE OF MULTIPLE PROFESSIONALS AND ATTORNEY TYPICALLY AN ENGINEER LANDSCAPE PERSON.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SOMETIMES, AN ARCHITECT AS WELL FOR A SUBDIVISION.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: EVEN.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SMALLER SUBDIVISIONS LIKE TWO AND THREE LOTS OF DIVISIONS THAT YOU HAVEN'T ARRIVED PREDOMINANTLY.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO IN THAT PROCESS, WHAT THINGS I MEAN IF THE ADOPTION OF THIS MORATORIUMS THE PURPOSE OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS MORATORIUM IS TO.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LOOK AT OUR PROCESS AND MAKE A DETERMINATION OF WHERE THERE ARE ISSUES AND TO FIX THEM WHERE ARE THERE ISSUES IN THAT SUBDIVISION MAP PROCESSES YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED THAT WOULD THAT WE WOULD KNOW HOW TO PROCEED AND FIX.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: WILL SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO SUBDIVISIONS, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OUTLINE IN THE INTENSIVE PURPOSES IN THE MORATORIUM, ONE WOULD RELATE TO THE TREE LOSS ISSUES.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT APPEARS THERE'S THERE'S AS I'VE DESCRIBED IN THE PAST TENSION IN THE CODE BETWEEN THE TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS IN THE SUBDIVISION PROVISIONS OF LAW AND THE TREE.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS IN OTHER CHAPTERS OF THE LAW SO THERE'S THERE'S THAT THERE WAS A THERE CAN BE CLEAR CARDING IN ADVANCE OF THE SUBDIVISION APPLICATION.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: COMPLETELY PERMISSIBLE BY LAW, BUT UNDERSTANDABLY CAUSES CHALLENGES ALSO THE SECOND THING SPECIFIC TO SUBDIVISIONS.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IS HOW LOT LINES CAN SORT OF BE CONFIGURED IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY ARE MEET THE LETTER OF THE LAW UM BUT UH SPECIFICALLY THIS HAPPENS WITH SMALLER LOT SUBDIVISIONS TO LOTS OF DIVISIONS, OR THREE LOTS OF DIVISIONS HOW THEY'RE SORT OF WEDGED INTO ESTABLISHED COMMUNITIES.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND AND AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC SO THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS CONSIDERED ON AGAIN OFF AGAIN FOR.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: OVER 15 YEARS, SO THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REAPPEARS.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: ON US ON A EVERY EVERY FEW YEARS THERE CAN BE THESE SORT OF SMALLER SUBDIVISIONS ESTABLISHED LOTS WANTING TO CREATE ONE ADDITIONAL LOT WEDGED WITHIN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS NOT A QUESTION OF ZONING COMPLIANCE BUT NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THOSE ARE THE TWO SPECIFIC THINGS RELATED TO SUBDIVISION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I WOULD JUST ADD WITHOUT THERE ANY SPECIALIZED KNOWLEDGE, I THINK THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WHAT WE HOPE TO DO IN THE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT OUR LAWS IS LOOK AT OTHER JURISDICTIONS LAWS SO CHRISTIAN MAY WELL HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF INSIGHT INTO WHAT THOSE LAWS PROVIDE WITH RESPECT TO THE PARTICULAR PROBLEMS.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ON WHICH WERE FOCUSED, BUT HOW THE HOW A NEW LAW MIGHT SHAPE UP WILL ALSO BE DERIVED FROM LOOKING AT OTHER JURORS RESPONSE.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: ITSELF TRUE, AND AS YOU EXPLORE IF YOU CHOOSE TO EXPLORE AND HOW YOU EXPLORED LAW GOING FORWARD THE ISSUE OF STEEP SLOPES THERE'S MANY STRATEGIES THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT TO TO MANAGE THAT SOMETIMES THAT CAN MANIFEST ITSELF IN A SUBDIVISION CONTEXT AND SOMETIMES NOT.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU KNOW THAT CAN JUST BE RELATED TO SITE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE CONSIDERATION FOR THE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE SUBJECT TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, IF YOU CHOOSE TO OPEN TO HEARING.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THERE'S REALLY TWO ONE IS RETROACTIVE ONLY TO APRIL 7 APPLICATION SUBMITTED AND THE OTHER IS RETROACTIVE TO A SUBDIVISION THAT IS.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: NOT ONLY BEEN APPROVED, BUT ALSO BEEN FILED IN THE LAND RECORDS OFFICE THOSE PROPERTIES CAN BE SOLD, MAYBE HAVE BEEN SOLD TRANSFER TITLE.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SO.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THAT THAT THAT'S OF THE TWO MORATORIUM THAT'S THE DISTINCT DISTINGUISHING MONDAY, WHAT WILL CALL THE RETROACTIVE.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THINK.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OTHER OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPEN THE HEARING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, SO MAY HAVE EMOTION, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TWO VERSIONS OF THE MORATORIUM.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION, MR MAYOR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MAY HAVE A SECOND.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: ALL RIGHT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, SO PLEASE SPEAKERS, REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE CUSTOM, IF YOU DON'T GET TO SAY ALL YOU WOULD LIKE, THEN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YOU GET ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE AFTER OTHERS HAVE SPOKEN FOR THE FIRST TIME.

NATALIE AUERBACH: HI NATALIE OUR BACK AGAIN I'M I'M I'M GOING BACK TO THE PILOT FLY FOR A SECOND BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE HOW THE PRIDE FLAG IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE UNTIL THE RESIDENTS WAITING SPEAK WERE CUT OFF NOW I GET IT, SO THANK YOU.

NATALIE AUERBACH: I NOW WANT CLARIFICATION ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT OURSELVES FROM ARE WE PROTECTING OURSELVES OR MORE LGBT Q INDIVIDUALS FEELING WELCOME IT MAY BE STAYING AND RYE.

NATALIE AUERBACH: OR THE NEW LGBT Q RESIDENTS MIGHT MOVE HERE BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT LEGAL PROTECTION, WE NEED.

NATALIE AUERBACH: I'M ALSO WONDERING WHAT ELSE WE COULD BE SPENDING THE $10,000 ON I'M ACTUALLY WORKING ON BRINGING SUBCONSCIOUS BIAS TRAINING TO MY CHARITY AND I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD USE THAT FOR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

NATALIE AUERBACH: MY THIRD REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION HAS TO DO WITH THE REPORTED SUPPORT, WE KEEP HEARING THE COUNCIL CLAIM, IN MY OPINION, SUPPORT WOULD BE SHOWN BY DOING A VOTE TODAY TO RAISE THE FLAG, INSTEAD OF CONSISTENTLY REPEATING WORDS THAT ARE BECOMING EMPTY WITHOUT ACTION.

NATALIE AUERBACH: I HAVE TO QUESTION THE OBJECTIVE OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN MY UNDERSTANDING, THE COUNCIL IS TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS WHO ELECTED THEM AND NOT USE THEIR POWER TO PUSH REQUESTED ACTIONS TO A LATER DATE.

NATALIE AUERBACH: AND I HAVE TO SAY BRAVO TO THE STUDENTS WHO SPOKE IN THE FACE OF BULLYING, THANK GOODNESS, YOU ARE OUR FUTURE AND I'M SURE THAT WHAT WE ARE LISTENING TO THE THESE.

NATALIE AUERBACH: THIS NEW SECTION IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT RESIDENTS, BUT I JUST HAD TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I THINK PUSHING PEOPLE OFF AND SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE FEEL SO STRONGLY DURING A PUBLIC HEARING IS WRONG, THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO ON OUR PUBLIC HEARING TOPIC.

TONY BANCROFT: YES, THIS IS TONY BANCROFT CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TONY.

TONY BANCROFT: YEAH SORRY YES HEY GOOD EVENING.

TONY BANCROFT: MY NAME IS TONY BANCROFT MY WIFE ANDREA CANNING ARE SIX KIDS AND I HAVE LIVED IN ARRIVED FOR OVER SEVEN YEARS.

TONY BANCROFT: AND WE LOVE IT HERE ARE THANKFUL FOR ALL YOU DO AS A MARINE CORPS OFFICER WHO SERVED AN ACTIVE DUTY IN DEPLOYED IN MIDDLE EAST, I KNOW THAT YOUR EFFORT.

TONY BANCROFT: CAN SOMETIMES YOUR EFFORT HARD WORK AND SOMETIMES HE SEEMED THANKLESS, BUT I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY GRATEFUL RESIDENTS LIKE MYSELF ARE PRETTY APPRECIATE APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO FOR THIS WONDERFUL CITY.

TONY BANCROFT: WE ARE LOOKING INTO MERGING OUR LOT WITH THE ONE NEXT DOOR INPUT IN ADDITION ON AND, IN ESSENCE, TAKING OUT HOUSING DENSITY ARRIVED.

TONY BANCROFT: WE'RE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE MORATORIUM THAT MIGHT NEEDLESSLY SLOW DOWN OUR POTENTIAL PROCESS EMERGING LOTS AND AND THINK INSTEAD YOU KNOW THAT'D BE SOMETHING MORE SHOULD BE STICKY A CASE BY CASE BASIS, I REALIZED THAT THERE IS A THERE'S A PENDULUM OR THERE'S SOME SOME WAY OF.

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TONY BANCROFT: OF HOW THERE'S A WORKAROUND, BUT I JUST SORT OF I JUST WANT TO STATE BY STATE MY CONCERN THANKS THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU, I JUST DIRECT YOU TO THE WAIVER PROCESS THAT'S IN THE MORATORIUM.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IF, IN FACT, YOUR PROPERTY WOULD BE WITHIN THE MORATORIUM.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IT WOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO THE MORATORIUM, JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE COUNCIL.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND WHAT WAS THAT CHRISTIAN.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THEY THAT THAT MERGER REQUEST WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE MORATORIUM AND TO ADVANCE WOULD NEED TO BE WAIVED.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: OR WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE WAIVER PROVISIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REVIEW.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MAGGIE JOHN.

MAGGIE JAHN: HI MAGGIE YON I'M I REALLY AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE.

MAGGIE JAHN: THE TOWN PLAN FOR A LONG TIME THE TEMPLATE IS VERY OLD AND ALL THE OUR.

MAGGIE JAHN: RULES AND JURISDICTIONS ABOUT BUILDING ARE BASED ON THE PLAN AND IT'S BEEN NEGLECTED FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, AND I WOULD AND NOBODY YOUR YOUR.

MAGGIE JAHN: COUNCIL HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING ABOUT THE TIME PLAN SINCE YOU'VE BEEN ELECTED, AND THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO CREATE RULES AND MODERNIZE OUR TOWN PLAN, AND I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR THE TOWN PLAN THANKS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CHRISTIAN WHERE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO EXPAND ON WHAT IS THE CODE AND WHAT IS THE CODE DO AND HOW DO LAND BOARDS APPLY THE CODE TO THE DIFFERENT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PROJECTS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CAROLINA I THINK I SHOULD SHOULD RESPOND I THINK SHE SAYS KING A BETTER MASTER PLAN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, AND JUST TO RESPOND BRIEFLY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I AM UP THE VIEW THAT WE SHOULD DO A MASTER PLAN, AS NOTED OUR MASTER PLAN WAS WRITTEN IN 1985 IT ACTUALLY EXPIRED BY ITS OWN TERMS IN 2005 THREE OR FOUR MAYOR'S AGO WE DO WANT TO DO A MASTER PLAN WE POSTPONED IT WHEN WE FIRST CAME IN, BECAUSE WE SAW THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TERRIFIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS OF THE CITY AND DECIDED TO PICK THOSE UP AND THEN DURING THE YEAR HAVE COVERED A MASTER PLAN IS ACTUALLY VERY DIFFICULT TO PURSUE WHEN PEOPLE CAN'T GET TOGETHER AND WORK ON A MASTER PLAN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ONCE THE COVEN DUST IS SETTLED, I EXPECT THAT THE CITY WILL START A MASTER PLAN PROCESS AND AS MISS YON POINTED OUT ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS MAY FOLLOW FROM THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN ON THAT TO MR MAYOR I THINK KOBE HAS HAS CHANGED A LOT OF THE WAYS WE YOU KNOW LIVE AND AND ENGAGE WITH A COMMUNITY, AND I THINK.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HAVING THE EXPERIENCE OF YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH COVEN AND SEEING WHAT THE RESULTS ARE SEEING HOW PEOPLE'S LIVES HAVE CHANGED IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY VALUABLE WHEN WE DO START THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS AGAIN SO.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I ACTUALLY THINK IN A WAY WE ARE LUCKY TO NOT HAVE STARTED THIS AND CERTAINLY COMPLETED PRIOR TO KOBE BECAUSE COBRA IS CHANGING A LOT OF THE WAYS WE WE LIVE AND WORK, SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT, THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

MICHAEL WING: MICHAEL WING I AM.

MICHAEL WING: I GUESS I'M ARRIVED FOR 12 YEARS AND WE LIVE AT 395 PARK AVENUE, AND MY WIFE AND I AND THREE KIDS AND I'M I'M SPEAKING FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, I THINK AT THE CITY COUNCIL TO.

MICHAEL WING: IN OPPOSITION TO THE RETROACTIVE MORATORIUM OF FULL DISCLOSURE I I MY WIFE AND I DID BUILD A HOUSE WITH THE RONDO'S AT 395 PARK AVENUE.

MICHAEL WING: AND THE THINGS THAT I'M HEARING ABOUT THIS FAMILY RUN BUSINESS.

MICHAEL WING: ARE JUST AWFUL.

MICHAEL WING: YOU KNOW, WE WE WENT INTO THIS PROCESS PRETTY CONCERNED ABOUT SOME HORROR STORIES WE'VE HEARD FROM MANY FRIENDS WHO'VE DEALT WITH BUILDERS AND CONTRACTORS AND.

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MICHAEL WING: I CAN TELL YOU, OUR EXPERIENCE WAS NOTHING BUT AMAZING I'M JUST INCREDIBLY HONEST EVERY STEP OF THE WAY THEY WORKED WITH US TO PLAN OUT THE PROPERTY THEY ENCOURAGED US TO DO EVERYTHING WE COULD TO SAVE AS MANY TREES ON THE PROPERTY IS, WE COULD ADVISE US TO EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

MICHAEL WING: AND MICHAEL WING: AND I REALLY HAVE THREE QUESTIONS.

MICHAEL WING: I JUST I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S EVEN LEGAL TO RETROACTIVELY GO BACK IN TIME AND CHANGE THE RULES OF THE GAME, I, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

MICHAEL WING: FROM A POWERPOINT SLIDE UP FRONT, THERE WAS NOTHING DONE THAT WAS THAT DIDN'T ACTUALLY FOLLOW THE LAWS AND EVEN CHRISTIAN MENTIONED THAT THIS.

MICHAEL WING: THIS PLAN WAS ALREADY APPROVED AND FILED SO I'M BLOWN AWAY THAT THIS IS EVEN BEING CONSIDERED AS AS THE TOWN OF RIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR OWN CREDIBILITY THAT WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT AND TO CHANGE THE LAWS RETROACTIVELY IS JUST BEYOND ME SO MY TWO QUESTIONS ARE.

MICHAEL WING: WELL, THREE QUESTIONS IS THERE PRECEDENTS FOR THIS.

MICHAEL WING: IS THIS IS THE SECOND QUESTION IS, IS IT LEGAL TO GO BACK AND CHANGE THE LAWS RETROACTIVELY AFTER THEY'VE MADE THE INVESTMENTS.

MICHAEL WING: THAT PAM MENTIONED ALL OF THE ARCHITECTURAL WORK AND DESIGN FEES AND BUYING THE PROPERTY AND GOING THROUGH ALL THE PROPER PROCEDURES AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, ARE WE OPEN TO A POTENTIAL LAWSUIT AS A RESULT OF CHANGING THE RULES.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU'RE ON MUTE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED THAT BOTH VERSIONS ARE LEGAL I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT THERE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JOHN LEONARD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JOHN I THINK YOU ARE MUTED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JOHN YOU REMAIN MUTED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JOHN WE'LL WE'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER AND PLEASE PUT YOUR HAND UP AGAIN.

JOE LORONO: GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

JOE LORONO: JOSEPH TORONTO 160 HOURS ONE ROAD.

JOE LORONO: 35 YEAR RESIN A RIDE COMMUNITY MY HOME BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ARE HERE AND RIDE MY TWO SONS OR IN BUSINESS WITH ME ALSO HAVE HOMES HERE IN RIGHT.

JOE LORONO: SO, NEEDLESS TO SAY, I CARE GREATLY ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY, I SAY THIS BECAUSE SOME DEROGATORY COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SAID ABOUT NOT CARING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

JOE LORONO: IN THE PAST YEARS, MAYBE BEFORE SOME OF YOU MOVED HERE TO RYE, AND BEFORE A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR BOND SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WERE DONE BY VOLUNTEERS.

JOE LORONO: AS A PARTICIPATING MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY WHEN CALLED UPON THE ANSWER WAS HOW CAN I HELP.

JOE LORONO: FOR INSTANCE, WHEN LARGE FUNDS WERE RAISED BY VERY GENEROUS RESIDENT DONORS FOR THE NUGENT FIELD LIGHTS.

JOE LORONO: BUT THE BIDS.

JOE LORONO: WELL EXCEEDED THE FUNDS.

JOE LORONO: I WAS ASKED TO HELP.

JOE LORONO: BECAUSE OF MY CONSTRUCTION KNOWLEDGE CONTACTS SOME VALUE ENGINEERING AND SWEAT EQUITY EQUITY, I WAS ABLE TO HELP MAKE IT HAPPEN IF THAT WAS COMPLETE.

JOE LORONO: THE SAME HOLDS TRUE FOR THE ORIGINAL TURF FIELD WITH TO HELP ADDRESS ALL THE CHALLENGES TO MAKE THAT A REALITY.

JOE LORONO: ALONG WITH DONATING WORK AT THE RIGHT ART CENTER AND DONATE TO MULTIPLE YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS WILLINGLY.

JOE LORONO: SUBMIT IT ALL, IT MAKES IT ALL WORTHWHILE WHEN I SEE THE COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER FOR A HOME GAME UNDER THE LIGHTS OR SOME OTHER EVENT AT THE TURF FIELD.

JOE LORONO: I HAVE LIVED HERE AND RIDE THROUGH MANY CITY MANAGERS MAYOR'S CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MANY DIFFERENT BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE SERVED OUR CITY.

JOE LORONO: I'M PROUD OF THE WORK I DO AND THE HOMES, WE BUILT OVER THE YEARS.

JOE LORONO: IN MY IN MY 35 YEARS I HAVE ALWAYS LEFT AN AREA BETTER THAN WHEN I GOT HERE AND INCREASE VALUE, AND I SAY THAT PROUDLY.

JOE LORONO: TO SAY OR THINK OTHERWISE IS JUST FALSE.

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JOE LORONO: SOME OF THESE NEW WELCOME RESIDENCE BECOME THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY AND OTHERS GET VERY DEEPLY INVOLVED.

JOE LORONO: OVER THE YEARS THE HOME, I BUILT AND OTHER BUILDERS HAVE ADDED GREATLY TO THE CITY OF RIGHT TAXES WHICH HELPS SENIORS AND OTHERS, KEEPING TAXES AT A MANAGEABLE YEARLY INCREASE.

JOE LORONO: ALONG WITH THE EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF PERMIT FEES CHARGED WHICH ALLOW THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO HAVE AN ANNUAL SURPLUS OF OVER A MILLION DOLLARS TO HELP OFFSET OTHER AREAS AND FUN POTENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

KRISTEN WILSON: AS.

KRISTEN WILSON: WELL.

JOE LORONO: I DIDN'T GET IT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YOU CAN.

JOE LORONO: CAN I FINISH.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IF YOU HAVE ONE MORE SENTENCE OTHERWISE WE'LL ASK YOU TO TO LET OTHERS GO FIRST.

JOE LORONO: CAN I FINISH NOW OKAY JAY AVENUE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I.

JOE LORONO: WILL BE IT'LL BE QUICK.

JOE LORONO: IT'LL BE QUICK.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: REAL REAL QUICK, PLEASE.

JOE LORONO: THE 97 SILICON BEACH EVERY NEW PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED FROM THE STATE OF A PREVIOUS MAYOR.

JOE LORONO: OR, THOUGH NOT, ALTHOUGH NOT INTERESTED, WHEN FIRST APPROACH OR PROPERTY WAS NOT SELLING SO THESE LIKE A STATE OF CONTACT ME AGAIN.

JOE LORONO: AND SAID IT WAS TOO, AS OF RIGHT LOTS, MEANING THAT IT MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS WITH NO EXCEPTION 95 AND 97 HOUSE 93 TO MY LEFT 99 TO MY RIGHT.

JOE LORONO: I RECEIVED PLANNING BOARD APPROVAL MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FILED WITH THE COUNTY LAND RECORDS AND US COMPLETING THE PROCESS PROCESS.

JOE LORONO: WHICH BRINGS ME HERE TODAY FOR NOW BEING TARGETED, IT IS BAFFLING AND PERPLEXING TO ME FOR THE CITY CASTLE TO CONSIDER A MORATORIUM DATING BACK TO JUNE 2020 AFFECTING ONLY TWO PROPERTIES IN RIDE DURING THE HEIGHT OF A PANDEMIC, WHEN PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR RELIEF AT THE TIME.

JOE LORONO: IN CLOSING, I HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO ENJOY MANY YEARS OF THE RIGHT COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES WITH YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS UNDER THE LIGHTS, WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY WE BACKDATED A MORATORIUM AND TARGET OR A RESIDENT WHO HELP VOLUNTEER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TRACY STORE.

TRACY STORA: THINK AAMIR KHAN AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS TRACY STORE AND I LIVE AT THREE FAIRLAWN COURT I'VE LIVED IN RY FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS.

TRACY STORA: I'M PRESENTLY THE CHAIR OF THE CONSERVATION COMMISSION ADVISORY COUNCIL CONSERVATION COMMISSIONER ADVISORY COUNCIL WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 1974 IN RESPONSE TO.

TRACY STORA: STATE LAW ARTICLE 12 OF GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW ENCOURAGING CREATION OF SUCH ENVIRONMENTAL BODIES TO ADVISE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS.

TRACY STORA: RISE CCC BECAME A FULLY FUNCTIONING COMMISSION AFTER COMPLETING NET A NATURAL RESOURCE INVENTORY OF THE CITY, INCLUDING SEVERAL NATURAL INVENTORY MAPS.

TRACY STORA: THE CCA SEE COMMENTS ON THE ACCEPTABILITY OF EACH WETLAND PERMIT APPLICATION TO COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

TRACY STORA: IT ALSO UNDERTAKES THE FOLLOWING ACTIVITIES SYSTEM ADMINISTRATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATORY ACTIVITIES.

TRACY STORA: PROVIDES EDUCATION MATERIALS AND ADVICE RELATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND PROVIDES PUBLIC SERVICES BY FOSTERING CITIZEN CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT IN LOCAL AND REGIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

TRACY STORA: AS CHAIR OF THE CCA SEE I ATTEND ALL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.

TRACY STORA: WHILE I CANNOT SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE CCC COMMISSIONERS, I SUPPORT THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEIR PROPOSAL TO TAKE THE TIME TO REVIEW SOME OF THE CITY'S LAND USE REGULATIONS AND ISSUES.

TRACY STORA: IT IS CUSTOMARY UNEXPECTED FOR A CITY COUNCIL TO REVIEW AND IF BP UPDATE LAND USE LAWS TO REFLECT THE TIMES IN WHICH WE ARE EXPERIENCING, I ALSO SUPPORT PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR NICK EVERETT'S MEMO TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS AVAILABLE TO VIEW ON THE CITY CITY'S WEBSITE.

TRACY STORA: LAST LATE, I WANT THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO KNOW THAT THE CONSERVATION COMMISSION ADVISORY COUNCIL IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO ADVISE AND ASSIST THE COUNCIL AND KEEPING THE CITY OF RYE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY ENVIRONMENTALLY RESILIENT COMMUNITY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LINDA WHITEHEAD.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: GOOD EVENING LINDA WHITEHEAD I'M A PARTNER IN THE FIRM OF MCCULLOUGH GOLDBERGER AND STOUT WE REPRESENT A NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

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LINDA WHITEHEAD: I'VE BEEN PRACTICING LAND USE LOW ON THE CITY OF RYE FOR 30 YEARS OR MORE LONGER THAN I'D LIKE TO ADMIT.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: VERY FAMILIAR WITH DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF RYE, AND ISSUES WITH DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF RYE.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: VERY CONCERNED THAT THERE WILL BE A NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS IMPACTED BY THIS PROPOSED MORATORIUM AND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE THE SCALE AND THE NUMBER.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: OF PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE IMPACTED AND THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF THIS WE'VE SUBMITTED WRITTEN COMMENTS, WE ASK THAT YOU WILL PLEASE READ THEM CAREFULLY IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO SUMMARIZE THEM IN JUST THREE MINUTES.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: WE REVIEWED BOTH VERSIONS OF THE LAW.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: AND AGAIN, WE THINK, A LARGE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES WILL BE IMPACTED AND THEY WILL BE GREAT IMPACT ON THE REAL ESTATE MARKET IN RY ON LOCAL BUSINESSES AND CITY FINANCES, YOU NEED TO THINK THIS THROUGH IT'S NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: THE MORATORIUM ANY MORATORIUM TAKES AWAY PROPERTY RIGHTS AND THE LAND USE WORLD IS CONSIDERED AN EMERGENCY MEASURE THAT SHOULD BE USED TO PRESERVE A STATUS QUO FOR A REASONABLE TIME WHILE I MEAN AS PALETTE HE LOOKS TO AMENDED LAWS TO ADDRESS A NEW OR RECENTLY PERCEIVED PROBLEM.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: THE IDENTIFIED ISSUES HERE ARE CERTAINLY NOT NEWER RECENTLY PERCEIVED AS YOU'RE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS STATED, AND AS CHRISTIAN MILLER STATED TO YOU TONIGHT.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: THE MORATORIUM MUST BE REASONABLY CALCULATED TO ALLEVIATE OR PREVENT THE EMERGENCY THIS WON'T DO THAT THE EMERGENCY HERE SEEMS TO COME FROM ONE PARTICULAR PROJECT.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: AND A REJECT REACTION TO THAT PROJECT, A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORS HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN OBJECTION TO THAT PROJECT AND, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SUPPORT FOR THE MORATORIUM, A LOT OF IT REFERENCES THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT IS NOT THE BASIS FOR A MORATORIUM.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: AND IS NOT THE PROPER WAY TO DO IT.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: THAT PROJECT WAS APPROVED WELL OVER A YEAR AGO THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF REFERENCES TO TO SUBDIVISIONS THAT WERE CAUGHT UP IN THIS PROCESS, WELL, WE REPRESENT THE OTHER OWNER.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: SAM AND LESLIE COLEMAN AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE ALSO ON WILL BE SPEAKING ON THEIR OWN BEHALF TONIGHT AS WELL THEY'RE SUBDIVISION TO LOT SUBDIVISION WAS APPROVED IN OCTOBER OF 2019.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: AS WE WENT THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PROCESS AND THEN GOT DELAYED BY KOBE THE MAP WAS FILED IN JULY OF 2020 THEREFORE IT FALLS WITHIN THIS RETROACTIVE CONCEPT.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: AND IT STATES THAT NO PERMIT CAN BE ISSUED FOR THIS SUBDIVISION, WHICH MEANS THE COLEMAN'S ARE NOW IN A UNABLE TO SELL THEIR VACANT LOT WHICH WENT THROUGH THE LENGTHY APPROVAL PROCESS DESCRIBED BY YOUR PLANNER EARLIER.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: WHICH ALSO INCLUDES AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW UNDER THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT WAS REVIEWED IN DETAIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DETERMINED.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: THAT THERE WOULD BE NO IMPACT OF THAT SUBDIVISION AND NOW YOU ARE TAKING AWAY OUR CLIENTS RIGHT, NO ONE IS GOING TO BUY THAT LOT FROM THEM.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO OBTAIN A PERMIT.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: SO I THINK YOU NEED TO REALLY CAREFULLY THINK ABOUT THE RETROACTIVE IT ALSO REFERS TO PLATTS NOT JUST SUBDIVISIONS, SO I WOULD POINT OUT THAT, IN ADDITION TO THE TWO SUBDIVISIONS, THERE WERE THREE OTHER MAPS FILED IN THE TIME FRAME.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: TO APPORTION MEN ARE LOT LINE CHANGE MAPS AND ONE MERGER AS WRITTEN THE OWNERS OF THOSE PROPERTIES COULD NOT OBTAIN A PERMIT TO DO ANYTHING ON THEIR PROPERTIES EITHER.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: THE OTHER VERSION ALSO HAS PROBLEMS, THE STEEP SLOPES PROVIDES THAT NO PERMIT CAN BE ISSUED FOR ANY WORK WITHIN 20 FEET OF A 25% SLOPE COVERING 100 SQUARE FEET THAT'S 10 BY 10 YOUR CITY IS FULL OF ROCK OUTCROPPINGS.

KRISTEN WILSON: LIMITED FUNDS UP.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: OKAY, THEN I WILL COME BACK AND ADDRESS THESE OTHER ISSUES LATER, THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JONATHAN CROWD.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I REPRESENT THE TORONTO, GOOD EVENING, AND I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS CONCERNING 95 AND 97 OAKLAND BEACH.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: FIRST OFF EVERYONE ON THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE WELL AWARE THAT WAS A SUBDIVISION THAT WAS UNANIMOUS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT WAS APPROVED AFTER YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER MACA MADE THE MOTION, IT WAS SECONDED BY FORM OF COUNSEL WOMAN LAURA BRETT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: BOTH OF WHOM ARE VERY SEASONED LAND USE MEMBERS OF BOARDS AND HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE CITY AWRY LOOKING AT THESE ISSUES.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IT HAD TO PASS ON A CHAPTER 170.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: UNDER CHAPTER 170 THE PLANNING COMMISSION NECESSARILY HAD TO DETERMINE THAT IT MET WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE LAND.

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JONATHAN D. KRAUT: CONFORMITY WITH CITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROPER ACREAGE PROPER ACCESS PROPER FRONTAGE PROPER SURFACE WATER CONTROL IMPROVEMENTS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: UNDER CHAPTER 170 AND A LOT OF ARRANGEMENT IS REQUIRED TO BE SUCH THAT THERE WILL BE NO FORESEEABLE DIFFICULTIES FOR REASONS OF TYPOGRAPHY OR OTHER CONDITIONS IN SECURING BUILDING PERMITS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IT ALSO REQUIRES A LOT DIMENSION SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL MINIMUMS WHICH BY THE WAY THESE LOTS EXCEED.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: SETBACK ONES AND HOUSE LOCATION SHELBY QUOTE LAID OUT AS TO MAKE POSSIBLE AND ATTRACTIVE ARRANGEMENT OF BUILDINGS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: YOU ARE DULY APPOINTED MEMBERS YOU'RE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE SUBDIVISION THAT IS A FINDING THAT WE COMPLY WITH ALL THOSE THINGS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: HOWEVER, BECAUSE THE PLANNING COMMISSION THOUGHT IT COULD DO EVEN BETTER FOR THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS, THEY ASKED US TO GO FOR A VARIANCE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WE WENT FOR A VARIANCE IN ORDER TO CREATE A BIGGER BACKYARD FOR THE ABUTTING NEIGHBORS, ONE OF WHOM HAS BEEN INCESSANTLY COMPLAINING TO YOU.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND A BETTER ALIGNMENT WITH ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS ON THE SIDE WHO WAS ALSO BEEN INCESSANTLY COMPLAINING TO YOU, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THE THREE MINUTE RULE IS VERY DIFFICULT, SO I PROBABLY HAVE TO COME UP EACH TIME TO ADDRESS A DISCRETE ITEM.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: BUT YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE PROPER PROCESS IN THE FOLLOWING WAY THERE'S A MEMO THAT WAS REFERRED TO MARCH 30 FROM CHAIRMAN NICK EVER FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT STARTS OFF IN RESPONSE TO YOUR REQUEST ON MARCH 24.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WHOSE REQUEST MARCH 24 WAS A CITY COUNCIL MEETING YOUR MINUTES SHOW IT WAS NEVER REFERRED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THE TAPE OF THE MEETING SHOWS IT WAS NEVER REFERRED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SO WHAT HAPPENED THERE MUST HAVE BEEN SOME PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THE MEMOS ADDRESS TO THE MAYOR, THE COUNCIL CITY MANAGER AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THE MEMO ITSELF SAYS WHAT IT IS, IT WAS PRIVATE SOLICITATIONS BY THE CHAIRMAN TO MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASKING.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THEIR OPINIONS IT'S NOT A MEMO FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHICH WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A REFERRAL TO IT, IT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED PUBLIC NOTICE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: A MEETING, WHERE THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO OBSERVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF NOT PARTICIPATE OR COMMENT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THE MEMO REQUEST INAPPROPRIATELY AND UNFAIRLY ASKS WHOEVER MADE IT CHAIRMAN EVERETT AND IT'S UNFAIR TO HIM TO ASK HIM TO ENTER ON THE PUBLIC MEETING PROCESS BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TIME FOR THERE TO BE A PLANNING BOARD MEETING IN ANY EVENT THAT THE PRICE.

[12. Resolution for a native tree dedication on Purchase Street on April 30, 2021 to Emanuela (Mannie) Riccio, concurrent with Arbor Day.]

KRISTEN WILSON: BY 10 TIMES UP.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I APPRECIATE THAT AND I'D ASKED THE CHAIR TO YIELD, AND LET ME FINISH THE POINT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HELL, HOW LONG WILL YOU.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: CAN WRAP IT UP IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE ME LONG I THINK I'M NOT I'M NOT REPEATING MYSELF, SO LET ME JUST FINISH.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WHAT WHAT ONE ONE MINUTE, PLEASE JONATHAN.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THANK YOU IT'S A PRIVATE, PUBLIC AND MY CLIENT, THE RIGHT TO LISTEN TO A CONVERSATION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD HAVE HAD.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND TO HAVE MEMORIALIZED IN ITS MINUTES AND RECORDINGS, BUT THE FACT IS THAT THIS PURPORTED MEMO IS ACTUALLY A COMMENTARY ON YOUR OLD LAW MARCH 10.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WHEN IT MYSTERIOUSLY APPEARED ON YOUR AGENDA TWO HOURS BEFORE YOUR MEETING.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WHAT YOU SHOULD DO IS BOTH VERSIONS OF THE LOCAL LAW SHOULD BE PROPERLY REFERRED TONIGHT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW BEFORE YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND IN ANY EVENT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMO IN ITS SECOND PARAGRAPH, MAKES CLEAR.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THAT THE PURPOSE OF A MORATORIUM SHOULD NOT AND NOW I'M QUOTING SHOULD NOT BE TO STOP LAND USE CHANGES THAT ARE CURRENTLY COMPLIANT WITH THE EXISTING CODES AND STATUTES.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: MEANING, YOU SHOULD NOT STOP MY CLIENTS DEVELOPMENT, THE PURPORTED MEMO IS A DOCUMENT CREATED OUTSIDE OF THE PROPER PROCESS AND FORUM AND THE THE STANDARDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS ALWAYS ADHERE TO.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND NEVERTHELESS, IT SHOWS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS WHEN INDIVIDUALLY PULLED COLLECTIVELY WE'RE AGAINST WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED TO STOP OUR CLIENTS FROM EXERCISING THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: ON A SUBDIVISION THAT COMPLIED WITH ALL YOUR RULES AND WAS FULLY APPROVED AND SO THEREFORE I ASKED YOU TO CONSIDER THE COMMENTS I JUST MADE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: REFER THESE TWO VERSIONS, TO THE PLANET COMMISSION AND NOT CLOSE YOUR HEARING UNTIL THEY HAVE BEEN FURTHER VETTED AND, FURTHERMORE, TO THE EXTENT YOU TAKE THE GUIDANCE TURN DOWN THE REQUEST FOR THEM, ONE MORE TIME, THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU NEXT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LESLIE EVERS.

LESLIE EBERS: HI IT'S ACTUALLY I'M I'M LESLIE HE BURST, I LIVE AT 138 OSBORNE ROAD SO I'M ACTUALLY A NEIGHBOR OF MR ROB KNOWS AND HE'S BEEN A LOVELY NEIGHBOR AND HE'S A GREAT BUSINESSMAN, WHICH WE KNOW THAT HE SUPPORTS THE COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF FANTASTIC WAYS, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT UM.

LESLIE EBERS: THE BIGGER PICTURE OF ALL OF THIS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

LESLIE EBERS: HE FOLLOWED ALL OF THE RULES 100%.

LESLIE EBERS: THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE RULES ARE THE ACTUAL PROBLEM.

LESLIE EBERS: SO IF YOU KNOW THE RULES LIKE THE BACK OF YOUR HAND BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT YOU DO, DAY IN AND DAY OUT, THEN YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR FINAL GOAL, AND THEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE PLAN TO PUT AN ACTION IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE YOUR FINAL GOAL, THE MOST EFFICIENTLY AND HE DID THAT AND NOW.

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LESLIE EBERS: THE WAY IT'S COMING ABOUT IS YOU'RE SAYING OH WELL, MAYBE WE SHOULD DO A MORATORIUM AND BACKDATED WHEN YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, THE DAMAGE IS DONE ALREADY.

LESLIE EBERS: WE SHOULD BE SPENDING TIME CRAFTING A NEW PLAN MAKING NEW RULES MAKING NEW BOSS, TO PREVENT THESE SITUATIONS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE.

LESLIE EBERS: ONCE IT'S ALREADY STARTED AND PAST A CERTAIN POINT, I MEAN IS IT BETTER TO LEAVE AN EMPTY LOT WITH.

LESLIE EBERS: JUST BEEN DESTROYED AT THIS POINT, NO, I MEAN IT'S NOT IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY EITHER.

LESLIE EBERS: SO I THINK WE JUST REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON PREVENTING PROBLEMS BEFORE THE START, INSTEAD OF CONSTANTLY HAVING TO REACT TO THEM.

LESLIE EBERS: YOU KNOW I KEEP LOOKING BACK TO OUR SITUATION WITH THE OSBORNE HOME, AND YOU KNOW THEY KEEP PUSHING THAT THEY WANT THEIR FIRE INCREASED AND THEY SAY OH, WE CAN'T GIVE YOU PLANS UNTIL WE HAVE THE FIRE INCREASE AND.

LESLIE EBERS: WE STABILIZE HAVE CONTINUALLY SAID LISTEN WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM WHEN THINGS ARE DONE BIT BY BIT.

LESLIE EBERS: AND IT'S NOT A CONSCIOUS STREAM THAT EVERY SINGLE PERSON IS GOING TO BE IN ON EVERY STEP WE DON'T KNOW WHEN TO OBJECT, OR WHEN NOT TO OBJECT AND WE DON'T WANT TO END UP IN THIS SITUATION.

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LESLIE EBERS: SO WE WOULD JUST LIKE YOU GUYS TO REALLY FOCUS ON A BETTER PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, I MEAN IT NEEDS TO BE REVISED, YOU GUYS HAVE ADMITTED IT AND YOU KNOW.

LESLIE EBERS: IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT A COUPLE OF PLOTS IT'S IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE OVERALL PROCESS OF MOVING FORWARD HERE IN RIGHT IT'S NOT TO PLACE BLAME ON ANY ONE CONTRACTOR OR WHATEVER.

LESLIE EBERS: IT'S IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE, AND I THINK A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S LOST ON YOU GUYS, FOR SOME REASON, LIKE AS JUST THE PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY WHO DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT CONSTRUCTION, I MEAN HONESTLY.

LESLIE EBERS: I KIND OF SEE THE THE MENTAL THOUGHT PROCESS, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NO IDEA, SO PLEASE HELP US AND FIX THE LAWS MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU NEXT SPEAKER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JOHN LEONARD.

JOHN LEONARD: THANKS, VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK I'LL BE BRIEF AS I CAN BE, FIRST OF ALL I DO SUPPORT A MORATORIUM HERE, BUT REALLY WITH THE PURPOSE BEING THAT OUR WHOLE ZONING CODE IS OBSOLETE THE MASTER PLAN, WE KNOW IS OBSOLETE LET'S TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY OF A MORATORIUM TO HAVE.

JOHN LEONARD: PUT THIS IN THE HOPPER AND COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WORKS TODAY.

JOHN LEONARD: I BELIEVE ONE OF OUR COMMUNITIES, THE SOUTH MAMARONECK OR LARGE MOD HAS PUT A MORATORIUM IN PLACE FILE THEY DO A NEW MASTER PLAN.

JOHN LEONARD: I WOULD.

JOHN LEONARD: ENCOURAGE THAT TO BE DONE HERE.

JOHN LEONARD: THE SPECIFIC CASE OF 97 I THINK RAISES A NUMBER OF ISSUES, ONE IS THE CLEAR CUTTING WHICH WE SEE BOTH IN THIS PROPERTY AND ALSO IN A NUMBER OF REBUILT IN OTHER.

JOHN LEONARD: LOTS WHERE THE AN ENTIRE ACRE OF LANDSCAPING HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN AND REPLACED WITH NEW LANDSCAPING THAT TO BE GENEROUS WILL TAKE 50 YEARS TO REBUILD THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUR TREE ORDINANCE IS WAY OUT OF DATE TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE.

JOHN LEONARD: THE SECOND AREA I THINK IS THE FLAG LOT THE AND THE FACT THAT A BUYER SHOULD BE PRESUMED TO KNOW THE ZONING KNOW THE WETLANDS KNOW THE.

JOHN LEONARD: PROCESS TOPOGRAPHY AND THAT'S REALLY THE BUYER AND HIS ARCHITECT SHOULD BE.

JOHN LEONARD: GUIDED TO WORK WITH WHAT THEY HAVE BOUGHT, IT IS NOT A HARDSHIP TO BUYING THOUGH THERE'S A ROCK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YARD I'VE GOT A BLAST APP TO GET IT OUT OF THERE YOU KNEW THAT WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.

JOHN LEONARD: WAIVERS AND EXTENSIONS SHOULD ALSO BECOME MUCH HARDER TO DO.

JOHN LEONARD: I'M TOTALLY SYMPATHETIC SOMEBODY OWNED A HOUSE FOR 10 YEARS AND WANTS TO EXPAND BECAUSE THEIR NEEDS CHANGED SOME OF THE BOX BOUGHT A PROPERTY LAST YEAR SHUT THEM DOWN WITH THE ZONING WAS THEY DON'T AREN'T TIED AREN'T TITLED THE FLOOR AREA RATIO WAIVERS TO SIDE YARD WAIVERS.

JOHN LEONARD: ARE HARD COVERAGE WAIVERS.

JOHN LEONARD: REALLY IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT THE THING BE BACKDATED WITH A LIBERAL WAIVER PROPOSAL FOR CASES LIKE.

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JOHN LEONARD: COLEMAN'S WHERE I THINK THEY'RE AN INADVERTENT VICTIM OF A PROPER DECISION, THANK YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PROGRESS AND ANY HELP I CAN BE IN.

JOHN LEONARD: THE THINKING, PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SAMUEL COLEMAN.

NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: YES, THANK YOU I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THAT MATTER, FOR THE DIFFICULT WORK THAT YOU ALL DO.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: HAVING SAID THAT, I WANT TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT I FEEL I HOPE WAS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES OF THE MORATORIUM, AND IN PARTICULAR THE RETROACTIVE MORATORIUM.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: MY WIFE AND I'VE LIVED IN RYE FOR 25 YEARS WE BOUGHT AN OLD 1880S VICTORIAN LOVINGLY RESTORED AT ANDRES CHURCH STREET THE PROPERTY HAS THREE ACRES IS QUITE LARGE AND THEIR HOUSE, WE LIVE IN IS SITUATED IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: THERE'S A LOGICAL PLACE FOR A SEPARATE LOT IN THE FRONT END TO THE SIDE, AND WE HAVE BEGUN TESTING THE FEASIBILITY OF A SUBDIVISION WAY BACK WHEN I WAY BACK, BUT.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: IN 2017 2018 TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OBVIOUS SHOWSTOPPERS AND THAT INVOLVES TALKING TO ADVISORS AND EXPERTS ENGINEERS AND INFORMAL CONVERSATIONS THEY HAD WITH MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: WHEN I RETIRED IN 2019 THE SALE OF OUR HOUSE AND BECAME A MATERIALISM MATERIAL PART OF OUR RETIREMENT PLANNING AND BASED ON MARKET FEEDBACK THAT EIGHT THREE ACRES WAS REALLY TOO BIG.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: FOR THE MARKET PREFERRED SIZE, WE INITIATED A FORMAL SUBDIVISION PROCESS IN AUGUST OF 2019.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GOT COMPLETED APPROVALS FROM THE TOWN IN NOVEMBER OF 2019.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: AT THAT TIME WE HAD AN OFFER FOR THE WHOLE LOT THAT IS THE ENTIRE THREE ACRES BUT BASED ON THE APPROVALS, WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE TOWN, WE REJECTED THAT OFFER ON THE THEORY THAT THE TWO PARTS WERE WORTH MORE THAN THE WHOLE.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: SO, CONSEQUENTLY, WE BELIEVE THAT THE RETROACTIVE AND WE'VE NOW SOLD THE ONE.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: THE MAIN HOUSE AT SIGNIFICANTLY LESS OBVIOUSLY THAN WHAT THE OFFER WE HAD FOR THE WHOLE PROPERTY.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: BUT THE CONSEQUENCE OF THE DELAY IN UNCERTAINTY OF THE PROPOSED MORATORIUM AND LOOK BACK WOULD RENDER THE LOT WE RETAINED HIGHLY AT RISK.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: AND SO, THEREFORE, WE FEEL THIS IS AN UNDUE HARDSHIP UNFAIR HARDSHIP FOR AT LEAST THE FOLLOWING REASONS, ONE IS THE IMMEDIATE AND MATERIAL, FINANCIAL CONSEQUENCES TO US.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: WHICH I'VE JUST OUTLINED, THE SECOND IS THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED, THE PROCESS FOR APPROVAL WAS NOT CASUAL.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: WE HIRED ECOLOGICAL EXPERTS SURVEYORS LAWYERS ENGINEERS AND THE MANY HEARINGS AND COMMENTS AND DIALOGUE WE'RE ABOUT TYPOGRAPHY STORM AND SEWER DECIDING WHERE THEY'RE ALTERNATIVE SIGHTINGS FOR THE HOUSE HOW DID THE SETBACK WORK WAS.

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SAMUEL COLEMAN: CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE SHOULD THE DRIVEWAY GO WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT OF TREES, ETC, IN OTHER WORDS THE SAME THINGS THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH.

KRISTEN WILSON: MR COLEMAN YOUR YOUR TIME IS UP.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: OKAY, I APOLOGIZE SO.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: I THINK YOU'VE HEARD WHAT I HAVE TO SAY I THINK THE ONLY THING I WOULD MENTION, IF I COULD IS THAT OUR COMMENTS FROM OUR NEIGHBORS WERE CONSTRUCTIVE AND SUPPORTIVE AND THE DELAY THAT WE HAD IN GETTING THE PLAN APPROVED FOR NOVEMBER WAS DUE TO COVERT.

SAMUEL COLEMAN: AND I'LL LEAVE IT THERE, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: DANIELLE TAKE HER UPSTREAM.

DANIELLE TAGGER-EPSTEIN: I GUESS, GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU, DANIEL TAGGER EPSTEIN 10 SOUND ROAD.

DANIELLE TAGGER-EPSTEIN: I DID WANT TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MASTER PLAN.

DANIELLE TAGGER-EPSTEIN: WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PLAN FOR THE PAST SEVERAL SEVERAL YEARS PICKING UP WHERE THE FORMER ADMINISTRATION LEFT OFF.

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DANIELLE TAGGER-EPSTEIN: WITH COMMUNITY INPUT CITY STAFF RESIDENTS DEVELOPERS BUSINESS OWNERS, THIS WILL HELP US PROVIDE A BLUEPRINT FOR OUR CITY.

DANIELLE TAGGER-EPSTEIN: HOW TO MAXIMIZE QUALITY OF LIFE, FUTURE GROWTH AND MAKE SURE WE PROTECT OUR RAPIDLY DWINDLING OPEN SPACES AND WITH NO UPDATED PLAN WE HAVE BEEN THROWN INTO DISARRAY.

DANIELLE TAGGER-EPSTEIN: AND, IN AN ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THE CURRENT NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED, THERE HAVE BEEN KNEE JERK REACTIONS.

DANIELLE TAGGER-EPSTEIN: WE NEED TO DO BETTER, WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AND LOOK AT OUR BLASTING LAWS THAT HAVE DAMAGED PROPERTIES AND LOOK AT OUR TREE ORDINANCES ARE WETLAND LAWS THAT ARE AFFECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT AND OUR ZONING LAWS THAT ARE AFFECTING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY.

DANIELLE TAGGER-EPSTEIN: AND WE NEED TO BE DOING THIS TOGETHER THANK YOU SO MUCH.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU DANIELLE, YOU OF COURSE WE'RE ON THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN WE PUT THE MASTER PLAN ASIDE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LIAM NAPIER.

LEO NAPIOR: GOOD EVENING FOR THE RECORD LEONI HERE WITH THE LAW FIRM APARTMENTS CROWD REPOSTING WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CLIENTS IN TOWN, MOST PARTICULARLY TORONTO'S FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME I'VE BEEN PRACTICING LAND USE LAW AND RIGHT MY ENTIRE CAREER.

LEO NAPIOR: IN FACT I AUTHORED VARIOUS PROVISIONS OF YOUR ZONING CODE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PROVISIONS SO MAYOR KONA LIKE A CHALLENGE STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE EARLIER CONCERNING THE LEGALITY OF THE MORATORIUM.

LEO NAPIOR: WELL, IN CONCEPT, A MORATORIUM, MAYBE LEGAL, I BELIEVE, NEITHER VERSION IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT IS LEGAL IN ORDER TO EXERCISE THE POLICE POWER AND ADOPT THE MORATORIUM LEGALLY THERE MUST EITHER BE A DIRE IN SOCIETY OR EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES FOR THE MORATORIUM I LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

LEO NAPIOR: INSUFFICIENT SEWER CAPACITY WATER CAPACITY, ETC, OR MUNICIPALITY SHOULD BE CONSIDERING COMPREHENSIVE ZONING CHANGES AND NEED THE MORATORIUM AS A STOPGAP MEASURE.

LEO NAPIOR: THERE'S THERE'S CERTAINLY IS NO RESPONSE WITH DARREN ASSESSMENT WHICH WE'VE BEEN MADE AWARE, NOR HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT ALL.

LEO NAPIOR: IN FACT, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS MORATORIUM SHOWED UP ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA OUT OF NOWHERE WITH NO DISCUSSION, NOR HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION BY ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OVER THE PAST FOUR MEETINGS THAT HAS BEEN A JOURNEY FROM.

LEO NAPIOR: NOR THERE ANY COMPREHENSIVE ZONING CHANGES UNDER CONSIDERATION WE SUBMITTED A FOIL FOIL REQUEST.

LEO NAPIOR: SEEKING ANY MEMOS OR CORRESPONDENCE FROM ANY OF YOUR LAND ESPORTS COMMENTING ON NEEDED ZONING CHANGES AND RESPONSE WE RECEIVED NOTHING.

LEO NAPIOR: THE FACT IS, THIS HAS BEEN TWICE THE GERMANS THERE'S BEEN NO CONVERSATIONAL BERNIE POTENTIAL ZONE CHANGES.

LEO NAPIOR: AS MENTIONED EARLIER IN THIS MEETING, THERE WAS AN RFP PUT OUT FOR A MASTER PLAN, UPDATE AND, ULTIMATELY, THAT WAS NOT COMPLETED.

LEO NAPIOR: AN ESSENCE, THE COUNCIL AND THAT'S IT FOR ANY VALID BASIS UPON WHICH TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY MORE TORREON, LET ALONE, ONE THAT HAS RETROACTIVE EFFECT ON SELECT HANDFUL OF LAWFULLY CREATED LOTS.

LEO NAPIOR: THE BURNHAM POSED BY MORATORIUMS TO BE SHARED TANGIBLY BY THE PUBLIC AT LARGE, WHAT DISTINGUISHES THOSE TWO SUBDIVIDED LOTS FROM ANY OTHER WHACK RIGHT, OTHER THAN THE DATE THEY WERE SUBDIVIDED.

LEO NAPIOR: THIS JUNE 30 2020 DATA SELECTED AS A COVERT EXCUSE THAT THERE WAS A DELAY IN FILING MAPS AND REALITY, BOTH OF THOSE SUBDIVISIONS WERE APPROVED, OVER A YEAR AGO.

LEO NAPIOR: THERE ARE CERTAINLY OTHER FLAG LOTS AND RIGHT THERE'S CERTAINLY OTHER SLOPE LOTS AND TRY TO SELECTIVELY APPLY THIS MORATORIUM AGAINST TO SUBDIVIDED LOTS THAT HAVE NO OTHER DISTINCTION CHARACTERISTICS, IS COMPLETELY ILLEGAL.

LEO NAPIOR: THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ARE WE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THIS IS, THIS WOULD BE A SECOND OPPORTUNITY FOR LINDA WHITEHEAD KRISTEN DO WE HAVE.

KRISTEN WILSON: MORE WE'RE GETTING MORE HANDS UP NOW, BUT, AT THE TIME, HE WAS THE LAST SPEAKER, SO WE HAVE A FEW MORE.

KRISTEN WILSON: ONE MORE NEW ONE NOW DO YOU LIKE TO HEAR THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LET'S HEAR LINDA SINCE SHE IS PRESIDENT ON OUR SCREEN.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: THANK YOU MAYOR AND I WILL TRY TO FINISH UP ALL MY COMMENTS IN THIS THREE MINUTES.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: ONE LAST COMMENT ON THE RETROACTIVE VERSION YOU CAN'T UNDO AN APPROVED SUBDIVISION YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY AND ALREADY APPROVED LOT, SO I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THE RETROACTIVE PROVISION.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: I WAS STARTING TO ADDRESS THE STEEP SLOPES PROVISION WHICH SAYS NO PERMIT CAN BE ISSUED FOR CONSTRUCTION WITHIN 20 FEET OF A 25% SLOPE THAT EXCEEDS 100 SQUARE FEET THAT'S 10 BY 10 THE COLEMAN'S INTERESTINGLY.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: AS AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THEIR A ROCK OUTCROPPINGS THROUGHOUT THAT LOT, MOST OF WHICH ARE SEVERAL OF WHICH ARE 10 BY 10 SO EVEN WITHOUT THE RETROACTIVE PROVISION, THE HOME AND LOT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE MORATORIUM.

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LINDA WHITEHEAD: BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE WITHIN 20 FEET OF A 10 BY 10 ROCK OUT PROP.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: SO AGAIN, THIS WOULD PERMIT PROHIBIT THE ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT AND THEREBY THE SALE OF THE LAW.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE BECAUSE IT ALSO REFERS TO NO PERMIT BEING ISSUED FOR ANY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING OR STRUCTURE WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT A PERMIT COULD NOT BE ISSUED FOR A PATIO THAT WAS TO BE PLACED 20 FEET FROM A ROCK OUTCROP.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: IN THE PANDEMIC WE'VE ALL NOTICED PEOPLE WANT TO EXPAND THEIR PATIOS EXPAND THEIR OUTDOOR LIVING SPACE, THIS IS GOING TO PREVENT THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IN ANY WAY.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: IS WHAT IS AN ISSUE OR WHAT IS INTENDED, OR A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, YET THAT'S WHAT THIS MORATORIUM WOULD DO.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: THE ISSUE OF THE LAST LINE ADJUSTMENTS IN THE MERGER.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: TONY BANCROFT YOUR FIRST SPEAKER SPOKE TO THAT IT WAS SAID THAT WELL, YOU CAN GET A WAIVER FOR THAT, SO I WANT TO ADDRESS THE WAIVER PROVISION.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: THE WAIVER PROVISION IS TIME CONSUMING AND COSTLY FOR A PROPERTY OWNER TO GO THROUGH SIGNIFICANT TIME AND EXPENSE PUBLIC HEARING THE CRITERIA IS NOT CLEAR, IT REFERS TO UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP, THEN IT REFERS TO SUBSTANTIAL HARDSHIP, NEITHER OF THOSE ARE DEFINED.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: I DON'T SEE HOW THE COMMON LAW CAN QUALIFY BECAUSE THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT IT MUST NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PURPOSE OF THE LAW.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: THE THE WAIVER PROVISION IS POORLY DRAFT THAT AND JUST DOES NOT WORK AND IT'S QUESTIONABLE WHETHER ANYONE WOULD BE ABLE TO OBTAIN A WAIVER.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: AND IF IT'S FAIR TO PUT SOMEBODY THROUGH THAT EXPENSE, LASTLY, THE ISSUE OF HOUSING HOUSES FACING TO THE FRONT OF A LOT.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEMO RECOMMENDS THAT THIS SHOULD BE LEFT TO THE VAR ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, WE HAVE A CLIENT THAT SUPPORTS THAT PRECISELY THE CLIENT HAS A 1.3 ACRE FLAG LOT IN IN OUR ONE ZONING DISTRICT.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: SO ON FOREST AVENUE THE PROPERTY IS NOT VISIBLE FROM FOREST AVENUE.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: THIS LOT LENDS ITSELF TO THE HOUSE BEING PLACED SIDEWAYS BECAUSE THE DRIVEWAY IS A SHARED DRIVEWAY THAT GOES STRAIGHT BACK THROUGH THE LOT TO A PROPERTY BEHIND IT SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE ROAD APPROACHING THE LAW.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: THE HOUSE WANTS TO FACE THAT DRIVEWAY NOT FACE FOREST AVENUE WHICH ISN'T EVEN VISIBLE FROM THE LOT.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THESE SHOULD BE REVIEWED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS BY THE BA OR NOT PROHIBITED AND OUR CLIENT SHOULD NOT BE PROHIBITED FROM OBTAINING A PERMIT FOR THAT HOUSE AT THIS TIME.

LINDA WHITEHEAD: WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOESN'T CREATE THE PREVENTION OF THE CREATION OF FLAG LAPS, BUT IT DOES AFFECT MANY EXISTING FLAG LOTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND AGAIN, I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE READ OR WRITTEN SUBMISSION.

NADINE WAXENBERG: HI CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES, I DO LIKE SOME BIRD.

NADINE WAXENBERG: THIS IS NEEDING WAX AND BURT I'M AT 19 FOREIGN PLACE, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL IN ADVANCE OF YOUR TIME IT'S A LONG EVENING.

NADINE WAXENBERG: COUPLE COMMENTS AND I WILL KEEP IT RELATIVELY BRIEF AS I AM.

NADINE WAXENBERG: REALLY, FOR THIS MORATORIUM FOR THE COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS, BUT I WANT TO JUST COMMENT LESLIE EVERS I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS HER NAME, NO ONE SAID THAT OUR INTENTION WAS TO LEAVE 97 OAKLAND BEACH LOT AND D OKAY, I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT IN THE RECORD.

NADINE WAXENBERG: THE CHALLENGE IS REALLY THAT THE ORIGINAL HOME IS JUST A LITTLE OVER 2000 SQUARE FEET NOW BECOMING TWO HOMES THAT ARE CLOSE TO 11,000 SQUARE FEET SO IT'S NOT A MATTER OF LEAVING THIS LOT EMPTY.

NADINE WAXENBERG: CHRISTIAN SAID EARLIER THAT SOME OF THIS HOMES AND HAVING TWO HOMES QUOTE UNQUOTE WEDGED INTO ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS THESE TWO HOMES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER IS BEING WEDGED IN.

NADINE WAXENBERG: WE UNDERSTAND THAT 97 OPEN BEACH AVENUE MEETS THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS BARELY, BUT THEY NEED IT.

NADINE WAXENBERG: BUT THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THE CITY ZONING CODE AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT THE ZONING CODE COULD BE REFRESHED.

NADINE WAXENBERG: SO I THINK IT'S NOT THE IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF ZONING COMPLIANT BUT THE INTENT AND THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT IS IN QUESTION HERE.

NADINE WAXENBERG: AND THEN THE ONE THING THAT I WANT TO LOSE WITH THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF 97 OAKLAND BEACH AVENUE WAS A WOMAN NAMED LUCILLE ROSS AND HER DAUGHTER.

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NADINE WAXENBERG: JOANNA SAID, AND THIS IS QUOTING HER, SHE WAS UNABLE TO BE ON THE LINE TONIGHT THAT SHE HER MOM NEVER SAID ANYTHING TO HER, HER MAIN WISH WAS TO SELL TO SOMEONE WHO WOULD KEEP THE LANDSCAPING INTACT, AND THIS IS A SIDEBAR FOR ME TO LANDSCAPING AND ALL OF THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO HER.

NADINE WAXENBERG: SHE TALKED ABOUT THAT THAT ALL THE TIME, EVEN BEFORE THE DAY THAT SHE DIED.

NADINE WAXENBERG: AND TO ME, THAT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I FELT WAS AN IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE, BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE THE OVERDEVELOPMENT AND NOT BEING CONSCIOUS OF KEEPING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NADINE WAXENBERG: THAT'S WHY WE ARE ALL JUST HAVING A VOICE HERE AND MR CROWD WE'RE NOT INCESSANTLY COMPLAINING WE'RE JUST VOICING WHAT WE FEEL IS SMART FOR THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MARTIN AKIKO.

MARTIN KEHOE: GOOD EVENING, MR MAYOR AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING AND.

MARTIN KEHOE: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE MORATORIUM BEING MADE RETROACTIVE AND AND I WOULD JUST SAY I DO HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I I DO, I WOULD SAY THAT WE HEARD THE TORONTO FAMILY TAKEN OVER THE PROPERTY.

MARTIN KEHOE: WE WERE QUITE POSITIVE, BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE HONORS WORK IN THE COMMUNITY AND, NEEDLESS TO SAY, THERE'S BEEN DEVELOPMENT SINCE THAT POINT THAT HAVE SERIOUSLY DISAPPOINTED US AND.

MARTIN KEHOE: AND MY CHILDREN WENT TO SCHOOL WITH JOE'S CHILDREN AND REALLY WHAT TROUBLED US AND MY QUESTION IS TO MISS WILSON, THE COUNCIL FOR THE CITY.

MARTIN KEHOE: IF YOU COULD PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHEN I READ THE RULES I'M NOT A LAWYER, I NEVER LOOKED AT THE CODE AND RICE CITY UNTIL A NUMBER OF WEEKS AGO, BUT IF YOU COULD KINDLY EXPLAIN TO ME WHEN I READ SECTION 170.

MARTIN KEHOE: ON TREE PRESERVATION, IT SAYS THE FOLLOWING.

MARTIN KEHOE: THE SUB DIVIDER IS REQUIRED TO PERMANENTLY TIGER HAVE FIXED IDENTIFICATION ON EACH TREE ON THE SIDE, HAVING A CALIBER OF EIGHT INCHES OR MORE PRIOR TO THE SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.

MARTIN KEHOE: TO SUB DIVIDERS WHO CARD TO PRESERVE OLD TREES EIGHT INCHES OR MORE IN CALIPER UNLESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED TO REMOVE.

MARTIN KEHOE: THE SUBJECT DIVIDER AND.

MARTIN KEHOE: SHALL SHOP MAY BE REQUIRED TO PRESERVE TREES HAVING CALIBER OF LESS THAN EIGHT INCHES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS THE SUBSTRATES HAVING SIGNIFICANT AESTHETIC VALUE DO TWO SPACES OR LOCATION OR THE REMOVAL WOULD EXCESSIVELY ALTERED DAMAGE OR EFFECTIVE STABILITY OF SMOKES.

MARTIN KEHOE: AGAIN, AS A NON LAWYER READING THAT TO COME IN AND TEAR THE LAW OF RECOGNIZING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SUBDIVIDE A LOT, AND MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING HERE AND, IF I AM PLEASE EXPLAIN.

MARTIN KEHOE: BUT WHAT IS CLEARLY A TROUBLING ME AS A NON LAWYER AND AS A RESIDENT IS THERE'S LAWS HERE THAT SPECIFICALLY GUIDES HOW THE TREE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED.

MARTIN KEHOE: WITH THE INTENT OF SUBDIVIDING THE PROPERTY AND, AS I READ IT AS A NON LAWYER I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY THOSE LAWS WEREN'T VIOLATED SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE KINDLY EXPAND THAT I THINK IT WOULD HELP ME GREATLY.

MARTIN KEHOE: MISS WILSON.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES, I DON'T THINK MARTIN THAT THE CORPORATION COUNSEL IS GOING TO OFFER LEGAL VIEW ON THIS CALL.

MARTIN KEHOE: WE COULD I'VE SENT A NOTE NO CHARGE TO YOU, AND SEVERAL OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND I'M GENUINELY JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE WRITTEN CODE HERE AND I'M SIMPLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

MARTIN KEHOE: HOW THE PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED OR NOT, AND IF THE PROCESS HAS BEEN FOLLOWED, PLEASE POINT THAT OUT TO ME I'LL MOVE ON.

MARTIN KEHOE: BUT I'M SIMPLY TRYING TO SEE HOW THE PROCESS WAS IT WAS NOT FOLLOWED, AND IF IT WASN'T FOLLOWED THEIR SPECIFIC REMEDIES IN OUR CODE TO ADDRESS IT ALL I'M SIMPLY ASKING, PLEASE, IS TO PLEASE EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC HOW THE CODE IS FOLLOWED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU, MARTIN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JONATHAN CROWD.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THANK YOU, FIRST OFF I DID SUBMIT A LADDER, WHICH I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE TIME BEFORE YOU DELIBERATE TO READ CAREFULLY IT'S IT'S LINKEDIN HAS A LOT OF DETAILS, I THINK A LITTLE ILLUSTRIOUS HISTORY IS IN ORDER, AND I THINK OTHER THAN COUNCIL MEMBER MACA.

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JONATHAN D. KRAUT: NON YOU WERE PARTICIPATING IN CITY GOVERNMENT AT THE TIME, BUT IN 2002.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AFTER MANY MONTHS OF DISCUSSION AND SOME COMPLAINTS VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONES YOU'RE HEARING RECENTLY ABOUT CONCERNS WITH DEVELOPMENT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: A HOUSE SCALE SUB COMMITTEE WAS FORMED IN SEPTEMBER 2002 NOW I WILL POINT OUT TO YOU ABOUT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: ONE FALSE STATEMENT CONTAINED IN BOTH YOUR PROPOSED LOCAL LAWS THAT SAYS QUOTE YOUR LAND USE BOARDS HAVE BECOME INCREASINGLY CONCERNED WITH A CONFIGURATION OF PROPERTIES WITHIN SUBDIVISIONS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THAT'S FALSE WE REQUESTED THOSE DOCUMENTS FROM THE CITY, THERE ARE NONE, THERE HAVE BEEN NO RECENT COMMUNICATIONS FROM ANY OF YOUR LAND USE SPORTS THAT EFFECT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: BUT EVEN ASSUMING THAT YOU GOT ONE OFF COMPLAINTS OR COMMENTS THAT WERE URGING YOU TO MAKE CHANGES LET'S LOOK AT WHAT THE FORMER COUNCIL DEAD.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THEY WERE LOOKING AT SCALE FLIR ATTICS PORCHES BUILDING HEIGHT GRADING JANUARY 8 2003 AND I WOULD REALLY SUGGEST IT IF YOU WANT TO LOOK BACK AT THE HISTORY OF THIS AS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: RESIDENTS URGED A MORATORIUM, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS REFLECTED, THEY WERE SYMPATHETIC TO THE IDEA, BUT THEY WANTED FIRST BEFORE CONSIDERING MORATORIUM RECOMMENDATIONS OF THEIR COMMITTEE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND STAFF BEFORE THEY WENT AHEAD WITH ANY MORE TUTORIAL YOU'VE NOT TAKEN THAT STEP, THE COUNCIL RESOLVE TO REFER THE NARROW VERSION THEY HAD TO.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: HAVE THE MORATORIUM TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A FORMAL REVIEW AND COMMENT YOU'VE NOT DONE THAT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THEY'VE ALL ALSO AT THE TIME REVIEW REFERRED IT TO THEIR CPA AND THEIR VAR YOU'VE NOT DONE THAT THEY THEN SET A HEARING IN FEBRUARY 2003.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AT THAT HEARING THE PLANNING COMMISSION ISSUED A REPORT AGAINST THE MORATORIUM, MR LAST ONE, WHO WAS A FORMER COUNCILMAN FORMER PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER, AND NOW THE CITY JUDGE POINTED OUT FLAWS IN HASTE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND IT WAS RESOLVED UNANIMOUSLY TO REJECT THE INTERIM MORATORIUM IN FEBRUARY 2003 IN APRIL OF 2003 THE ZONING BOARD CHAIR AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR HAPPENED TO BE NIK EVERETT STILL AT THE TIME.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: HAD TO PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THEIR COMMITTEE THEY STUDIED THE FINANCIAL IMPACT WITH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE OF THE CONTEMPLATED CHANGES.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THEY ANALYZED, WITH THE HELP OF CHRISTIAN MILLER, A FULL YEAR OF BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: ONLY THEN, AND AT THAT TIME DID THE CITY COUNCIL ASKED THE CORP COUNCIL TO DRAFT A LAW IN FURTHERANCE OF THE HOUSE SCALE COMMITTEES REPORT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IN MAY OF 2003 THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO HAVE THE SUGGESTED LAW, THEN REVIEWED, BUT AS EPA PLANNING COMMISSION AND BA OR AND RESPOND IN WRITING, INCLUDING WITH MINORITY REPORTS OF ANY DISSENTING MEMBERS OF THOSE LAND USE SPORTS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WHEN MAYOR OLDEST GOT COMMENTS FROM TWO OF THEM, AND NOT ALL THREE HE REFUSED TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING HE WANTED ALL OF THEM.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: JULY.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I'M GOING TO FINISH RIGHT NOW JULY 2003 THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS SET FOR 16TH OF JULY IN 2003 AFTER.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TIME, COULD YOU PLEASE COME BACK.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I'M JUST GONNA FINISH THE COMMENTS CAN TAKE ME.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO, NO.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T KNOW THE RULES.

IT WOULD BE BETTER.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT HERE IS A DISSERVICE, BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING IS DISRESPECT FOR BOTH MY CLIENT ON MYSELF.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST ASKING YOU TO PLEASE RESPECT THE PROCESS I'D LOVE TO HEAR.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: OKAY, I PUT MY HEAD DOWN AND.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CONTINUALLY EXCEED AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK, I WANT TO HEAR IT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LEO NAPIER.

LEO NAPIOR: SO I JUST LIKE TO RESPOND BRIEFLY TO TWO OF THE COMMENTS MISS WAX AND BERG MADE REGARDING THE INTENT AND CHARACTER OF THE CODE, THE INTENT OF THE CODE WAS CERTAINLY FILED AND FOLLOW THEM THE 9597.

LEO NAPIOR: SUBDIVISION THE CODE ACTUALLY CONTEMPLATED HAS SPECIFIC PROVISIONS CONCERNING FLAG LOTS SO WHETHER THE INTENT OF THIS COUNCIL IS THE CHANGE THOSE CODE PROVISIONS THAT'S ONE THING, BUT CERTAINLY WE COMPLIED WITH THE INTENT OF THE CODE AND DESIGNING DEVELOPING THAT SUBDIVISION.

LEO NAPIOR: WITH RESPECT TO THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THE TWO PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY BEHIND 9597 OPEN BEACH HAVING BE FLAGGED LET'S ALSO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.

LEO NAPIOR: I'D LIKE TO SHIFT FOCUS TO QUESTIONING WHETHER THE COUNCIL IS ACTUALLY STUDY THE REACH AND IMPACT OF THIS PROPOSED MORATORIUM PUTTING ASIDE THE RETROACTIVE EFFECTIVE IT.

LEO NAPIOR: A QUICK OVERVIEW OF YOUR TOP GRAPHIC DATA ON YOUR YOUR CITY GIS SYSTEM WILL WOULD SHOW YOU AND I DON'T KNOW IF CHRISTIAN HAS STUDIED IT OR IF YOU GOT ANY REPORTS FROM ANY OF YOUR STAFF.

LEO NAPIOR: AS TO HOW MANY PROPERTIES COULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS MORATORIUM, BUT CERTAINLY FOR THOSE LISTENING.

LEO NAPIOR: THEY SHOULD BE AWARE THAT BASICALLY ENTIRE EAST SIDE THE MIDDLE AND AVENUE SITS AT THE BASE OF THE SLOPE AND ALL HAVE PROPERTIES BEHIND THEM ON TOP OF THAT SLOPE, INCLUDING ORCHARD CENTER EVE AND DAVIS.

LEO NAPIOR: ALL THOSE PROPERTIES WILL BE SWEPT INTO THIS MORATORIUM ON TOP OF THAT UPPER DOGWOOD GRACE CHURCH KIRBY LANE ALL HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARGUABLY HAVE 25% SLOPES, THAT WOULD BE CAUGHT UP IN THIS MORATORIUM.

LEO NAPIOR: HEY YOU TAKEN ANY CONSIDERATION WHAT YOU MAY BE DOING TO THOSE PEOPLE'S PROPERTY VALUES THEIR ABILITY TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY THEIR ABILITY TO PUT AN ADDITION ON THEIR HOUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL LESSON DISCUSSED IT AT ALL.

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LEO NAPIOR: AND I THINK THAT WITH THAT I'M DONE, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JONATHAN CROWD.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I'LL TRY AND PICK UP WHERE I LEFT OFF, SO THIS HISTORICAL RECITATION IS INSTRUCTIVE AND I HOPE THAT YOU DO PAY SOME HEAT TO IT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IN JULY OF 2003 THE PUBLIC AREA WAS SET FOR JULY 16 THERE WAS A FULL PRESENTATION OF THE NINE MONTHS OF WORK OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAD APPOINTED.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THERE WAS ROBUST PUBLIC COMMENT KNOW THREE MINUTES, THERE WAS A VERY LENGTHY YEAR AND WE'RE EVERYONE GOT TO BE HEARD FULLY AND COMPLETELY WITHOUT INTERRUPTION AFTER THAT THE LAW PASSED AND IT CONTAINED WITHIN IT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: A CLAUSE THAT SAID, IT SHALL NOT APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION OR ZB APPLICATION HAS BEEN RECEIVED.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: BY THE CITY ARRIVE BEFORE JULY 3 2003 WHICH, AS YOU NOTED FROM WHAT I JUST SAID, WAS THE DATE THE HEARING WAS SET THAT WAS THE DATE THE HEARING WAS SET.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IF IF THIS COUNCIL FOLLOWED EVEN 50 OR 60% OF THE JUDICIOUS NATURE OF YOUR PREDECESSORS IN STUDYING THIS YOU WOULD FOLLOW A PATTERN THAT WAS SIMILAR TO THIS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: BUT AND I RECOGNIZE THAT IT CAN BE HARD WHEN YOU'RE SITTING UP THERE ON THE DAY IS TO TAKE THREE STEPS BACK AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WE NEED TO REALLY DO BETTER AND DO THIS DIFFERENTLY, BUT I AM ASKING YOU TO DO THAT, BECAUSE HAVING A MORATORIUM SHOW UP ON THE PUBLIC DOORSTEP WHEN WE'RE HAVING MEETINGS REMOTELY.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: COUPLE OF HOURS BEFORE YOUR MARCH 10 MEETING AND THEN PRIVATELY SOMEHOW ASKING YOUR PLANNING CHAIR TO SOLICIT INPUT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND PUTTING IT ON YOUR AGENDA AND THEN SAYING IN THE LANGUAGE, WHEREAS YOUR LAND USE BOARDS HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS WHEN IT'S NOT TRUE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IS CERTAINLY A RUSH TO DO SOMETHING AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY, BECAUSE WHILE MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN COMPLAINTS FROM.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: YOU KNOW ALL THE PEOPLE I THINK YOU HAVE I DID FOIL A LOT OF COMMUNICATIONS AND READ THEM, SO I DO KNOW THAT YOU HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT KIND OF PRESSURE, BUT PROPER PROCESS REQUIRES THAT YOU LOOK PROSPECTIVELY.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND THAT YOU DO SO IN A FAIR MANNER, AND WHAT I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU IS MOVING FORWARD FRANKLY WITH EITHER OF THESE MORATORIA IS NOT LAWFUL IT'S NOT SUPPORTED BY WHAT'S REQUIRED UNDER NEW YORK LAW.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN YOU CAN'T GET AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE THE FUNNY THING ABOUT MORATORIA IS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO CHALLENGE IT SOMEONE HAS TO GO TO COURT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: BUT IT GOES TO SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT, I THINK, EACH OF YOU NEEDS TO OPERATE THINKING ABOUT THIS MORE BROADLY STEP BACK FUNDAMENTAL FAIRNESS, THE LEARNERS ARE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, THIS IS A TARGETED.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: ORDINANCE BEING PROPOSED, AND I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU IT'S NOT FAIR WHEN THEY PASS THAT LAW, BY THE WAY THIS PARTICULAR ZONE BACK IN THE 2000 EARLY 2000S WAS REDUCED FROM A HEIGHT OF 35 TO 28 FEET.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND WE COMPLIED WITH THAT REDUCTION TO 28, SO I THINK I'VE MADE THE POINT AS WELL AS I CAN, AND I THINK YOU REALLY GOT TO CONSIDER ABOUT HOW YOU MIGHT BE IMPACTING FUTURE PROPERTY VALUES AND RIDE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND ALSO THE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: FINANCE COMMITTEE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TIME AGAIN, THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CARLOS.

CARLOS PERAZA: THANK YOU I'M CARLOS PEREZ AND I LIVE AT 17TH FLOOR PLATES, AND I HAVE BEEN IN ROW FOR 19 YEARS WHEN I WAS A KID AND I ASKED MY MOTHER, WE SUDDENLY NOT WITH US ANYMORE, IF SOMETHING WAS RIGHT OR WRONG OR RESPONSE TO USED TO BE.

CARLOS PERAZA: JUST IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF EVERYBODY ELSE DID, AND THERE IS YOUR ANSWER VERY SIMPLE YET VERY POWERFUL.

CARLOS PERAZA: IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO TAKE STEP BACK AND SEE WHAT WE ARE DOING AS INDIVIDUALS AS FAMILY LEADERS AND AS MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

CARLOS PERAZA: THIS MORATORIUM IS A BAD REFLECTING ABOUT WHAT KIND OF TOWN AND COMMUNITY, WE WANT TO LIVE TO OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN.

CARLOS PERAZA: OF COURSE, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BUILDING YOUR HOUSES AND, IN MANY CASES IT ACTUALLY BENEFITS THE AREA.

CARLOS PERAZA: BUT IN MANY OTHERS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT ONE AND 97 NAGALAND BE CHARGING YOU IT DISRUPTS THE CHARACTER AND SPIRIT OF THE NEIGHBOR AND BECOMES OFFENSIVE TO THE COMMUNITY.

CARLOS PERAZA: JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IF SUBDIVISIONS PROLIFERATING RIGHT.

CARLOS PERAZA: WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO HER SCHOOL SUBPOPULATION EQUALITY OR FIRE DEPARTMENT OR POLICE FOR OR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.

CARLOS PERAZA: JUST PICTURE WHAT OUR 10 WOULD LOOK LIKE IF EVERYONE TOWARD DOWN 95% OF THE TREATS IN A LOT IN ORDER TO BUILD THE LARGEST HOUSE WAREHOUSE AS POSSIBLE.

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CARLOS PERAZA: I YES GOOD POLICE IMAGINE YOUR BEAUTIFUL HOME NOW IMAGINE THE PROPERTY TO YOUR RIGHT WITH EXACTLY ZERO TALL TREES AND THE 4500 SQUARE FOOT HOME IN THE 0.23 ACRE LOT.

CARLOS PERAZA: KNOW IMAGINE THE PROPER TO YOUR LEFT WITH EXACTLY ZERO TALL TREES AND THE 4500 SQUARE FOOT HOME IN 0.2 OR THREE ACRE LOT.

CARLOS PERAZA: NOW, IMAGINE THE HOUSES WERE SIGNIFICANTLY OVER YEARS AND THAT YOU LOSE ALL YOUR PRIVACY KNOW MAKE IT VIRAL THROUGH RIGHT.

CARLOS PERAZA: PICTURE IT PLEASE PICTURE DRIVING THROUGH ARRIVED WITH ZERO TALL TREES IN PRIVATE PROPERTIES.

CARLOS PERAZA: I AM IN FAVOR OF DEVELOPMENT OF NEW HOMES MANY NEW HOME SO ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL AND THAT VALUE TO OUR TOWN, BUT SOME DON'T.

CARLOS PERAZA: ONE THING IS TO BUILD BEAUTIFUL NEW HOMES ANOTHER ONE IS TO ALLOW OVERDEVELOPMENT YOU KNOW COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT STRENGTHS OR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE SERIOUSLY DISRUPTS THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

CARLOS PERAZA: IN A VERY OFFENSIVE AND ULTIMATELY SAD WAY REMEMBER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYBODY ELSE DID THANK YOU.

CARLOS PERAZA: THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MARK ELMINA.

MARC ALIMENA: YES, THANK YOU MARK ALAMEDA I AM A LIFE LONG RIDE RESIDENT, WHICH IS NOW GETTING ON BEYOND 60 YEARS.

MARC ALIMENA: I'VE JUST WANTED TO VOICE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS PERSPECTIVE I HAVE AS A LONGTIME RESIDENT, I THINK THE ISSUE AT HAND IS THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY.

MARC ALIMENA: AND THAT'S WHY I AM IN SUPPORT OF IN THE URGE YOU TO SUPPORT MORE TOWARDS THEM.

MARC ALIMENA: THE WHOLE PROCESS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

MARC ALIMENA: THE WAY IT IS NOW, AND THIS HAS GONE BACK FOR YEARS AS JONATHAN MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU KNOW.

MARC ALIMENA: THE HEIGHT OF HOUSES NOT SIZE OF ADDICTS WERE AN ISSUE SO PIECEMEAL TOWN DECIDED TO CHANGE THE LAWS RELATIVE TO THAT, SO WHAT HAPPENED.

MARC ALIMENA: THEY'RE BUILDING BIGGER BASIS THEY'RE BLASTING MORE BECAUSE THEY WANT THE SPACE AND SO BY CHANGING THE HEIGHT OF THE ATTICS ONE OF THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WAS MORE BASEMENTS THE EXCUSE ME DIGGING DOWN FURTHER.

MARC ALIMENA: AND BLASTING MORE AND DISRUPT THE NEIGHBORS THE PROCESS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IN TOTALITY HOW IT ALL FITS TOGETHER THE WAY IT FITS TOGETHER NOW IT DOESN'T FIT TOGETHER AND THAT ENABLES DEVELOPERS INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS TO HIRE.

MARC ALIMENA: PEOPLE WHO ARE VERSED IN THE CURRENT LAWS TO MANAGE IT GETS INTO THE LETTER OF THE LAW, BUT IT DOESN'T MEET THE STANDARD OF THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S CRITICAL AND IF THE ONLY.

MARC ALIMENA: CURRENT PROCESS TO DEAL WITH CHARACTER IS IN THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW LONG AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVES A PROPERTY.

MARC ALIMENA: AND BY THE WAY THE BOARD OBJECTS TO SOMETHING THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT OVERRULES THEM THE PROCESS DOES NOT WORK.

MARC ALIMENA: THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES, MANY OF YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED IT IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IN TOTALITY.

MARC ALIMENA: AND THAT IS ALSO WHY I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE MORATORIUM BECAUSE, QUITE HONESTLY, THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOMETHING DONE IS TO PUT A MORATORIUM AND HAVE IT BE.

MARC ALIMENA: THEN ISSUE THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED, OTHERWISE IT GETS DEFLECTED AND IT GETS PUSHED DOWN THE ROAD THAT ALL THINGS ARE DONE AT THE EDGES AND.

MARC ALIMENA: NEXT YEAR NEXT DECADE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MANY RESIDENTS WHO ARE UPSET IN THEIR LOCALITY BECAUSE SOMETHING'S GOING ON, BUT THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T DEAL WITH THAT ONE ISSUE, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T AFFECT THEM.

MARC ALIMENA: THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CATHY GRANGER HAPPENS.

KRISTEN WILSON: STILL MUTED.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: OKAY, THANK YOU, I THIS IS JOHN HOPKINS USING KATHY'S COMPUTER I'M AT 95 BROOKLYN BEACH, AND I AM PART OF THE GROUP OF HOUSES IT.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: HAS BEEN SUBJECT TO SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING AND JUST FOR THE RECORD.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: IF YOU COME OFF OAKLAND OR A FEW CLOTH THAT POST ROAD OAKLAND BEACHES, A HUGE WHITE HOUSE WILL JUST A SECOND HOUSE IN THAT WAS THE MAIN HOUSE FOR THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY, SO THE TWO HOUSES BEHIND 9597.

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KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: THEY WERE A SON AND A CARETAKER SO THOSE THOSE HOMES THAT WERE REFERRED TO AS A FLAG LOT WERE BUILT IN 1880 ON THE SAME PROPERTY OWNED BY THE SAME OWNERS, I DOUBT THAT THEIR FLAG LOT.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: BUT IT'S ALWAYS ENTERTAINING TO LISTEN TO ATTORNEYS WHO SEEMED TO TAKE THEIR OPINIONS AND MAKE THEM FACT SO THAT'S THAT'S CERTAINLY WORTHWHILE WELL, I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT EVERYBODY'S PUT INTO THIS.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: WE ARE SUPPORTING THE MORATORIUM, BECAUSE WE HAVE LIVED THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE NOT VERY PLEASED ABOUT WE'VE LIVED THROUGH BLASTING ROCK SMASHING AND.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: AND TOTAL TREE REMOVAL AND WE WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THIS, IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANY HOME AND RYE SOMEBODY COULD BUY YOUR HOUSE.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: TEAR IT DOWN AND THE PEOPLE NEXT DOOR YOU LISTEN TO BLASTING IN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN GOING ON WITH THIS FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO ANOTHER SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS OF.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: HOMES BEING BUILT WE'RE SEEING 11,000 SQUARE FEET OF HOMES BEING BUILT ON A LOT THAT PREVIOUSLY HOUSE TO IT'S NOT WITHIN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: WE THINK MR TORONTO DOES GREAT WORK I THINK HE BUILDS THE BEST HOMES IN RIGHT ALL WE'RE ASKING HIM TO DO IS TO BUILD HOMES THAT ARE IN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: IF YOU GO OVER TO THOSE LOCKS AND LOOK THESE HOMES TOWER OVER THE HOMES THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT ON FOREIGN PLACE THAT AGAIN IS NOT KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER OF RIGHT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE LIVED IN.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: AND THAT'S WHY THE MORATORIUM SO IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WE NEED TO LOOK AT BLASTING, WE NEED TO LOOK AT ROCK CHIPPING WE NEED.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: TO LOOK AT THE THE MANAGEMENT PLAN OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD THIS IS TRULY BECOME A COTTAGE INDUSTRY AND RYE BECAUSE TONIGHT YOU'RE HEARING FROM ATTORNEYS AND YOU'RE HEARING FROM.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: FROM DEVELOPERS AND ARCHITECTS AND THAT'S THE COTTAGE INDUSTRY THAT NOW WE'VE CREATED AND RIDE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON, SO.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S AN INCONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUILD PATIOS BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE STOPPING PEOPLE FROM BUILDING PATIOS, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, WOULD THAT BE CORRECT, CAN I BUILD A PATIO MIRROR.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: WELL YEAH NOT YET.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YOU'RE STILL MY UNDERSTANDING IS PATIOS OR NOT CAUGHT A MORATORIUM.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: TRIM THIS WIDE I CAN BUILD A PATIO AND I'M HAPPY FOR THAT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: GETTING.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IT WOULDN'T BE AS A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE MORATORIUM IF IT'S WITHIN 20 FEET OF A SLOPE IN EXCESS OF 25% SO.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH TO A SLOPE, THEN IT WOULD BE.

OKAY.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: WE HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND THIS IS A REPEAT COMMENT YEAH.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT THE COMMENT BUT BUT, BUT I WANTED TO JUST BE ONE FINAL POINT CLEAR, AND THAT IS THAT MY CLIENTS AND I, AS SOMEONE WHO'S LIVED IN RYAN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND SAT FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS ON THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AND RYE AND DEEPLY STEEPED IN THE COMMUNITY, WE SUPPORT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: A COMMUNITY LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND WHAT'S DESIRABLE COVERT HAS SHOWN THAT MORE OF US NEED TO WORK FROM HOME THERE'S ONE EXAMPLE, AND I THINK MR STACKS POINTED THAT OUT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THE REALITY, THOUGH, IS TO STUDY THAT PROPERLY, YOU NEED TO DO IT SEARCH INDUSTRY CIRCUMSPECT WAY WHERE YOU REALLY LOOK AROUND AND THINK CAREFULLY AND DO IT WITH FULL COMMUNITY INPUT AND WHAT YOU DON'T DO, THOUGH, IS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: SET UP A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE PULLING THE LADDER UP INTO THE TREE HOUSE WHEN I WAS A KID FOREIGN PLACE WAS ALL SWAMP.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WHEN I WAS A KID THE TWO BALL FIELDS THAT WERE BUILT OFF OF OAKLAND BE JAVON YOU WERE ALL WOODS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND WHEN THOSE FIELDS WERE BUILT THE NEIGHBORS IN FOREIGN PLACE AND IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO COMPLAINED ABOUT BLASTING THAT THE CITY OR I WANTED TO DO.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND JULIAN NOVAK AND THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME, SAID THAT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO REMOVE ROCK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT, BY THE WAY MY HOUSE WAS ONE OF THE TWO CLOSEST HOUSES TO THAT BLASTING SITE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: BUT THE NEIGHBORS PUT UP WITH IT, THE NAME OF PROGRESS AND LATER I COACHED LITERALLY AND SOFTBALL ON THOSE FIELDS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND THERE'S A PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BY THE WAY THE GOALS, WHO WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SUBDIVISION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHO LIVE BEHIND IT WE'RE BENEFITED BY THE LORD RONDO'S GOING FOR A VARIANCE AND MOVING THE HOUSE FARTHER FROM THEM.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THE PREDECESSOR AND OWNERSHIP TO THEIR PROPERTY CLEAR CUT THE TOP OF THAT LOT TO BUILD A POOL I SUBMITTED PHOTOS FOR YOU, WITH OUR PRESENTATION LETTER.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THE NET UPSIDE OF MY FINAL POINT IS THIS WE DO SUPPORT THE COUNCIL IF YOU REALLY WANT TO TAKE A JUDICIOUS LOOK AT CHANGES IN YOUR ZONING WHAT WE'RE TOTALLY OPPOSED TO.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IS TO DO IT IN A HAM FISTED MANNER, WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO CUT SOMEONE'S INVESTMENT BACK TO EXPECTATIONS OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THEM IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S NOT THE WAY WE DO THINGS IN RIGHT AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO TAKE A STEP BACK FROM IT, THANK YOU.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: NEXT SPEAKER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND GOLD.

ANNE GOLD: IS OUR OUR GOLD AND ANGLES FROM EATING MENTAL CONDITION AND ROCK AND A REPEAT SORT OF EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID, AND OBVIOUSLY FROM SOMEONE WHO'S LIVED THROUGH THIS.

ANNE GOLD: I THINK WE CAN ALL SAY THAT THE LAWS ARE SILOED IN THE WAY THAT SOON THE LAWS ARE BROKEN AND JUST THE WAY, EVERYTHING IS DONE IN A SILO BASIS I DON'T THINK IS ISN'T BENEFICIAL FOR ANYONE, EXCEPT FOR.

ANNE GOLD: AS JOHN HARTMAN SAID THE COTTAGE INDUSTRY THAT'S BEEN BUILT SO WE'RE FULLY IN FAVOR OF THEM OF THE MORATORIUM AND IT'S, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON NEXT DOOR TO US.

ANNE GOLD: IT'S REALLY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, HOPEFULLY, AND IN TERMS OF WHAT'S GOING ON GOING FORWARD AND WHAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO AS A COMMUNITY IS TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AND AFTER.

ANNE GOLD: YOU GUYS TAKE A HARD LOOK AND AFTER 60 DAYS, EXCUSE ME, SIX MONTHS IT'S EVERYONE AGREES THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO BE ABLE TO DO AND SO BE IT.

ANNE GOLD: BUT I DO BELIEVE, AND NOW IS THE RIGHT TIME TO TAKE A LOOK, TAKE A PAUSE AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT THIS WHAT KIND OF TOWN, WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE ON A GOING FORWARD BASIS, THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: NEXT SPEAKER.

OH NUMBER ENDING IN 638638.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: 638 YOU'RE MUTED.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: STAR SIX TO COME OFF MUTE IF YOU'RE ON A PHONE.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: MAYBE THAT WAS DONE IN AIR I'M GONNA RETURN IT TO THE QUEUE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: EDDIE YUN.

PATTI YOON: YEAH HI GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING AND FOR LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY I DON'T HAVE A LOT MORE TO ADD THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD, IS.

PATTI YOON: SOME OF WHAT SOME FORMER NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID, WHICH IS.

PATTI YOON: I THINK THERE'S A REALLY CRITICAL NEED TO LOOK AT.

PATTI YOON: OUR COMMUNITY AND THE MASTER PLAN THAT WILL EVENTUALLY BUILD THE FUTURE OF THIS COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEM WILL BE TO MODERNIZE THE MASTER PLAN I DON'T KNOW WHAT A MASTER PLAN IS, BUT I PRESUME THAT IT LOOKS AT THE TOWN AND THE ZONING LAWS.

PATTI YOON: BUT I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S REALLY.

PATTI YOON: UP TO DATE FOR THE NEEDS OF MODERN SOCIETY, AS OPPOSED TO WHEN IT WAS IMPLEMENTED WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING WAS DECADES AGO.

PATTI YOON: THE SECOND THING THAT I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO DO WITH A PIC OF BLASTING LAWS.

PATTI YOON: I KNOW THAT A LOT OF YOU MAY NOT HAVE EXPERIENCED BLESSING, I PERSONALLY DID EXPERIENCE IT WAS.

PATTI YOON: DESCRIBED BEFORE IT WAS A PRETTY TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE FOR ME AND MY FAMILY, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU JUST REVISIT THOSE IN WHICH ARE THAT THOSE ARE MODERNIZED ALSO.

PATTI YOON: SO THAT IT'S SAFE FOR THE COMMUNITY I'M NOT SAYING THAT BLESSING IS NOT SAFE I'M JUST SAYING JUST MAKE IT SAFER, SO THAT THERE AREN'T CHILDREN WITHIN.

PATTI YOON: YOU KNOW VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THAT HAPPENING, BUT ALSO ASKED YOU TO LOOK AT THE TREE ORDINANCES AS YOU CONSIDER YOU KNOW FOR THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, HOPEFULLY.

PATTI YOON: HOW TO HOW TO MAKE LIFE BETTER GOING FORWARD.

PATTI YOON: I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE CAN'T REMOVE TREES, BECAUSE THAT IS A NECESSITY, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP A.

PATTI YOON: NEIGHBORHOOD BUT.

PATTI YOON: I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT MAYBE NOT STRIPPING THE LAND COMPLETELY TRUTH, IF YOU WILL.

PATTI YOON: YOU KNOW THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD ALSO ASK IS TO PLEASE REVISIT THE TOWN PROCESSES, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS TOWN PROCESS.

PATTI YOON: AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THE PROCESSES, BUT I HAVE SEEN BROKEN PARTS OF THIS PROCESS BETWEEN TREE PERMITS BEING ISSUED SORT OF WITHOUT.

PATTI YOON: WITHOUT.

PATTI YOON: CONSULTATION WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

PATTI YOON: THE THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION SEEM TO THINK THAT THE VAR WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ROCK BLESSING, AND FRANKLY THAT ROB BLESSING JUST FELL BETWEEN THE WAYSIDE BETWEEN WHAT THE PLANET COMMISSION.

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PATTI YOON: WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR AND WHAT THE BR WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR AGAIN JUST BASED ON MY VERY SHALLOW KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.

PATTI YOON: AND PATTI YOON: SO.

PATTI YOON: THAT THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY LET'S LET'S JUST TRY TO HAVE A RESET BUTTON, TO TRY TO MAKE THIS BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND TO L NICHOLS POINTS, IF AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS, WE COME AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS HOW WE WANT TO CONTINUE AS A COMMUNITY.

PATTI YOON: SOPHIA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OTHER SPEAKERS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JIM CORE NOTCH HERE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: YES, THANK YOU COUNSEL THANKS FOR YOUR TIME I'M ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURE REVIEW.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: THAT THE COUNCIL HAS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY HERE AND SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER PRESENTED ITSELF BEFORE IN THAT YOU KNOW BECAUSE OF COVERT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: OUR MEETINGS HAVE BEEN RECORDED IN THERE THEY'RE ON PUBLIC RECORD, SO I WOULD BEHOOVE THE COUNCIL TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF OUR MEETINGS.

JIM CORNACCHIA: AND THE INTERACTIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH WITH THE RIDE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY IN CASES WHERE IT'S COME DOWN TO YOU KNOW WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE OF YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S THE HOUSES WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE ZONING LAWS OF THE CITY.

JIM CORNACCHIA: SO THAT RECORD IS THERE FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND THE IMPACT THAT IT'S HAD ON THE COMMUNITY AND THERE'S BEEN CERTAINLY MORE CASES OF THAT RECENTLY.

JIM CORNACCHIA: IN THE SITUATION AT OAKLAND BEACH HAVING YOU CERTAINLY I THINK IS HAS BROUGHT IT TO A HEAD, BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S THE ONE POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE MAKE CLEAR IS THAT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: YOU KNOW OUR JOB IS TO PRESERVE THE ARCHITECTURAL BEAUTY OF THE TOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S GOVERNANCE AND OVERSIGHT ON THAT AND WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY, BUT IN MANY CASES.

JIM CORNACCHIA: OUR HANDS ARE TIED OKAY, AND THE IMPACT OF THE COMMUNITY IS REAL AND IT'S RECORDED IN THOSE MEETINGS, SO I DO RECOMMEND YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THIS IS A SEC SECOND APPEARANCE OF KATHY GRANGER ROBBINS.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: HI CAN YOU HEAR ME.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: YES, ALRIGHT, THIS IS THE FIRST APPEARANCE FOR CATHY GRANGER HAPPENS.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: THAT WAS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: VERY HAPPY YES.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: HELLO, THANK YOU UM.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT THE MORATORIUM, THE STUDY THAT THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED I TO HAVE LIVED IN RIGHT, AS MANY OF YOU ALL OF MY LIFE I LOVE THIS TOWN.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: I'M ALL FOR RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND MAKING THE TOWN BETTER YOU HEARD ABOUT THE DISASTER AT 95 AND 97 O'QUINN BEACH APATOW I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THAT ANYMORE.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: BUT WE ASKED MR TORONTO TO PLEASE BE THE GOOD NEIGHBOR THAT HE IS AND BUILD ONE HOME, IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO IT AGAIN IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO IN THIS SITUATION.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: SOMEBODY ACTUALLY SAID AT ONE POINT IN TIME, JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD SO I'M SAYING JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN SUPPOSEDLY BUILD TWO HOMES ON THOSE LOCKS IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU SHOULD IT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO IN THAT SITUATION.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: I REALLY LIKE THE SEE IF THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD COME TOGETHER, I KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES COME TOGETHER.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: AND PROTECT THE RESIDENTS THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT YOU'RE HERE FOR US YOU'RE NOT HERE FOR ATTORNEYS YOU'RE NOT HERE FOR EVERYBODY, ALL THOSE OTHER.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: DEVELOPERS ARCHITECTS YOU'RE HERE FOR RESIDENTS OF RYE AND YOU'RE HERE TO PROTECT US I'D REALLY LOVE TO SEE YOU DO THAT, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOU, I KNOW YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.

THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE HAVE SALLY SALLY COULD YOU FURTHER IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

SALLY: OR, MY NAME IS SALLY LOW, SO I LIVE ON METAL PLACE AND I AND MY HUSBAND AND I BOTH GREW UP HERE AND RIGHT IN THE 1970S AND 80S AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN WE MOVED BACK HERE WITH OUR THREE KIDS ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS AGO.

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SALLY: YOU KNOW, WE MOVED BACK HERE BECAUSE WE LOVE RYE, WE LOVE THE BEACH THE PARKS, THE LIBRARY PURCHASE STREET THE SCHOOLS.

SALLY: WE REALLY LOVE SO MUCH ABOUT THIS CITY.

SALLY: BUT WE ALSO COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW SO MUCH HAD CHANGED I'M.

SALLY: YOU KNOW I'M REALLY FOR THIS MORATORIUM BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT REALLY STAND STOOD OUT TO US WHEN WE MOVE BACK HERE ONE IS HOW EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THIS TOWN WAS CARVED UP AND DEVELOPED.

SALLY: THERE ARE SO MANY OPEN SPACES THAT ARE GONE ENTIRELY NEW STREETS BUILT WITH MASSIVE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOMES THAT NEVER EXISTED WHEN WE GREW UP HERE.

SALLY: THOUSANDS OF TREES CUT DOWN SO MUCH OVERCROWDING AND YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER TRIED TO FIND PARKING ON PURCHASE STREET OR IN ONE OF THE LOTS BY PURCHASING ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON YOU'LL KNOW THAT THIS TOWN IS ALREADY WAY TOO CROWDED.

SALLY: IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TRAVELING ON THE BOSTON POST ROAD JUST TRYING TO GET YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL IN THE MORNING AND CAUGHT IN A MASSIVE TRAFFIC JAM YOU'LL KNOW THAT THIS TOWN HAS ALREADY SUFFERED FROM.

SALLY: WAY TOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT, SO I DO BELIEVE THIS TOWN NEEDS A MORATORIUM ON ON SUBDIVIDING TO SAVE IT FROM ITSELF, I MEAN WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE, BUT.

SALLY: WE'RE SLOWLY DESTROYING IT, YEAR BY YEAR, WITH EVERY ONE OF THESE LOTS WHERE ANOTHER SEVEN BEDROOM HOME IS BUILT ON IT, THE SECOND MAJOR ISSUE, OTHER THAN CROWDING IS THE SCHOOLS, I MEAN I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW.

SALLY: WHEN THESE MASSIVE HOMES ARE BUILT WHERE ARE ALL THESE KIDS GOING TO FIT LIKE YOU KNOW EVERY ONE OF THESE HOMES HAS 567 BEDROOMS AND OSBORNE SCHOOL WHEN I GREW UP HERE HAD.

SALLY: TWO CLASSES PER GRADE AND TODAY IT HAS FIVE.

SALLY: SO I'LL WRAP UP NOW, YOU UNDERSTAND MY POINT BUT.

SALLY: THE THERE HAS TO BE A LINE DRAWN SOMEWHERE AND I'M ABSOLUTELY FOR CONTROL DEVELOPMENT AND SOME OF THE BEAUTIFUL NEW HOMES THAT ARE BUILT, BUT CARVING UP EVERYWHERE INTO THIS TOWN, I THINK, IS A REALLY BIG MISTAKE AND IT HAS TO STOP.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOU HAVE NO MORE HAND HANDS RAISED AT THE MOMENT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, SO IT IS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE HEARD A LOT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE HEARD SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT WE KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND THEN WE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SCHEDULE THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IN THE NEXT INSTALLMENT FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THINK THAT SUGGESTION.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MAYOR I'M READY TO VOTE SO I'M PREPARED TO CLOSE THE HEARING AND.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PUT IT PUT A RECORD TOGETHER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THERE'S.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: I KIND OF DIDN'T EXPECT WHAT WE'VE JUST SEEN, SO I WOULD SAY PRETTY MUCH.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH PAM ON A LOT OF THAT THE THE THE ISSUES THAT I THINK KEEPING IT OPEN FOR ONE MORE.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: CITY COUNCIL MEETING MIGHT BE THE PRUDENT WAY IT MIGHT MIGHT SHOW THE PRUNE AWAY THAT THERE MAY BE OTHERS WHO FEEL THE NEED TO SPEAK SO I'M SURE I CAN GO EITHER WAY MAYOR I'M SORRY NOW I'M OF YOUR HELP I'M SHOT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK THEN THAT MAY BE AN EFFECTIVE RESPONSE RICH.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JULIE, YOU WANT TO SPEAK.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, I WAS GOING TO GO AHEAD.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I WOULD UM I WOULD BE PREPARED TO VOTE ON THE RETROACTIVE ITEM AND CLOSE THAT HEARING AND VOTE ON THAT AND I WOULD BE PREPARED TO LEAVE THE OTHER ONE OPEN SO THAT AT LEAST WE HAVE NOW NARROWED.

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PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE ISSUE I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF YOU FEEL, BUT I WOULD BE PREPARED TO DO THAT IF EVERYBODY WOULD CONSIDER THAT AS AN OPTION TO.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SOUNDS GOOD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YOU KNOW BEN JULIE.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: CARTER YES.

I AGREE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, SO DO WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE HERE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THOUGH KRISTEN TO HAVE THE VOTE.

KRISTEN WILSON: YES, YOU HAVE TO CLOSE THE HEARING TO BEFORE YOU CAN MAKE ANY EMOTIONS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT DO WE WAIT A MINUTE SO TO PAM'S POINT IF WE'RE BIFURCATING THIS AND, LIKE VOTE ON ONE NOW AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WE TAKE UP AT THE NEXT MEETINGS THAT MEAN WE CLOSE THIS HEARING.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN HALF AND PART.

KRISTEN WILSON: WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING YOU, SINCE YOU OPENED BOTH I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING WITH RESPECT TO THE I HEARD PAM COUNCIL AND TARLOW CORRECTLY, YOU CLOSE THE HEARING ON THE JUNE 2020 RETROACTIVE MORATORIUM IF YOU'RE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RIGHT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE EARRING OPEN FOR THE OTHER ONE FOR NEXT WEEK, I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I WILL SECOND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AYE AYE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OK SO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FEE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE MORATORIUM, THE RETROACTIVE MORATORIUM.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE'LL ASK FOR A SECOND.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'LL SECOND.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN YOU EXPLAIN PASS TO ME, MEANING, YOU WANT TO PASS IT LIKE PASS THE LEGISLATION OR THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE A PASS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: PASS THE LEGISLATION.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ADOPT THE MERGER, ONE MORE TIME.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I SECOND THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO WE WOULD NEED A ROLL CALL ON THIS.

KRISTEN WILSON: RECOMMEND THE ROLL CALL YES.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN GODDARD IS ABSTAINED, I BELIEVE COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILMAN MECCA.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: KNOW.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN SOUZA KNOW.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN STACKS.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN TARLOW.

KNOW.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: MAYOR CONE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO I THINK THAT'S THREE THREE WHICH.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HAS BEEN PASSED NOW MAJORITY.

USE IT DOESN'T PASS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IF PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK TO THEIR POSITIONS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I I WOULD FED, AS I AND HAVE BEEN FOR THE RETROACTIVE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: UNDERSTANDING THE CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT IT, BUT I DO SEE SUBDIVISIONS IS HAVING THE MOST DRAMATIC EFFECT IN THE VARIOUS AREAS OF SENSITIVITY THAT WE'VE DESCRIBED IN THE MORATORIUM DOCUMENT AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WITH CONCERN FOR THE TWO PROPERTIES AFFECTED, BUT ALSO BELIEVING IN THE WAIVER PROCESS IN THE DISCRETION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION I DID VOTE IN FAVOR OF RETROACTIVE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FOR ANYONE ELSE, LIKE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THEIR POSITION.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THING I WOULD ADD MAYOR THAT THERE'S NEVER A GOOD TIME.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE'S NEVER A PERFECT TIME WHERE NO ONE WILL BE IMPACTED OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NEVER A PERFECT TIME, SO YOU KNOW THAT'S WHY I VOTE FOR RETROACTIVE AND.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST TO TRY AND YOU KNOW SOLVE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT, AS THE MEMBER OF THE VAR MENTIONED THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE THEIR HANDS CUFFED AND THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING, BECAUSE THE LEGISLATION IS SO BROKEN, JUST LIKE MARTIN KEYHOLE EXPLAINED, YOU KNOW, IS TRYING TO.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: UNDERSTAND HOW THE CHAPTER 170 EASING DIRECT FRICTION WITH THE SUBDIVISION LAW SO IT'S YOU KNOW WE HAVE A BROKEN SYSTEM AND AND THAT'S WHY YOU KNOW I WANTED TO HOLD RETROACTIVE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I AGREE WITH CAROLINA IT'S BROKEN AND I I GO BACK TO.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I REALLY I STRUGGLE HERE, BECAUSE I, I THINK YOU HAD SORT OF THE PERFECT STORM RECENTLY WHERE WHERE IT EXPOSED SORT OF ALL THE WEAKNESSES OF OUR LAWS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I THINK IT IT FORCED US TO SAY OKAY, THIS IS, YOU KNOW A LOT OF THE COMMENTS YOU KNOW THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW OR THE LETTER OF THE LAW AND THOSE THINGS NEED TO MARRY UP, AND I THINK THERE IS A DISCONNECT RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK WE NEED TO FIX THAT WHERE I STRUGGLE IS.

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JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MOVING THE GOALPOSTS A LITTLE BIT IT FEELS LIKE TO ME FOR FOR FOLKS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS TO THIS POINT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW I THINK SORT OF THE WARNING SHOT NOW, WHICH IS SAYING YOU KNOW WILL PUSH THIS OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING JUST TO SAY HEY LOOK.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT REALLY HAPPY WITH THE WAY THIS IS GOING AND IT'S A MATTER OF ZONING LAW AND AND LOOKING AT THAT MORE FULLY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, AND IT JUST IT DOESN'T YOU KNOW.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: EVEN GOING RETROACTIVE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT DOES TO UNDO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, FOR INSTANCE AT THE OAKLAND BEACH, AND THIS IS NOT TO PICK ON THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THIS IS, THIS IS A CITY WIDE DECISION WE'RE MAKING FOR ITS REGARDLESS OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT, I DO HOPE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THOUGH IN REGARD TO THAT PROPERTY THAT THE AFFECTED NEIGHBORS AND THE DEVELOPER CAN GET TOGETHER AND TRY TO MAKE SOME PEACE AND.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY THE NEIGHBORS IN A SHOW OF GOOD FAITH, BUT, BUT EVEN RETROACTIVE IT DOESN'T UNRACED THE TREES IT DOESN'T UNBLOCK THE BLASTS RIGHT AND SO.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DO THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THIS GOING FORWARD ABSOLUTELY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST STRUGGLE I STRUGGLE WITH GOING BACK AND CHANGING.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT JUST FEELS LIKE A MOVING THE GOALPOSTS THING FOR ME I DON'T I STRUGGLE WITH THIS.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: I JUST HAVE ONE THING SORRY PAM IS JUST SO MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS UNDERSTAND THAT I DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMO.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: REGARDING THIS ISSUE, I FEEL AS IT AS A MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO USE THE TERM IN THE SPORTS ANALOGY, I HAVE THE HAMMER, SO I ALWAYS HAVE.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: THE LAST SAY SO, WHATEVER PLAN A COMMISSION HAD DONE THEY THEY'VE DONE WITHOUT MY INPUT.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: JUST SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS IT'S IT'S IT'S THE ONLY CONDITION THAT WE HAVE WHERE I'M NOT A LIAISON I'M ACTUALLY A VOTING MEMBER A FULL MEMBER, SO I AM VERY CAREFUL OF EVERYTHING.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: I DO ON THE PLANET COMMISSION IT OFF THE PLANET CHRISTMAS, JUST SO EVERYONE'S AWARE, THERE WAS A LOT OF MENTIONED ABOUT WHAT THEY DID WHAT THEY DISCUSSED, AND I WAS NOT, I WAS NOT PART OF THAT, SO THANK YOU.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND YEAH UM I DO AGREE, THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN I DON'T KNOW IF IT WARRANTS A MORATORIUM, I BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE AT 95 AND 97 OAKLAND BEACH IN THE AREA OF THAT WERE WERE HARMED BY PERHAPS OUR LACK OF.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: POLICY MANAGEMENT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TERM TO USE.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NEGLIGENCE IN TERMS OF SEEING WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON AND I APOLOGIZE TO THEM, AND I HOPE THAT MOVING FORWARD, WE CAN DO BETTER.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T BELIEVE A RETROACTIVE LAW DOES THAT I DON'T BELIEVE A RETROACTIVE MORATORIUM TAKES CARE OF THE REAL ISSUE I DON'T BELIEVE IT HELPS PEOPLE AT 9597.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND YES, I BELIEVE IT WAS A TARGETED ACTION AND I'M SO RELIEVED THAT IT WAS DEFEATED, BECAUSE THE NEXT THING WOULD HAVE BEEN WE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN COURT.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THE SUPREME COURT, AND I AM THRILLED THAT WE DID THE RIGHT THING HERE, BECAUSE THIS WAS THE RIGHT THING.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I HOPE THE NEXT GO ROUND AS WE LEAVE THE OTHER HEARING OPEN AND WE MOVE FORWARD THAT WE TALK ABOUT SOLUTIONS NOT JUST.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PREVENTION OF ANY ACTION I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME ACTUAL PROCESSES PLANS.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I STILL DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT DURING THE COURSE OF THIS CONVERSATION ON MORATORIUM, WHICH MAKES IT HARD FOR ME TO VOTE FOR IT AS WELL.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I'M I'M VERY SORRY TO THE PEOPLE AT 9597 I'M VERY SORRY TO THE RONDO'S IF PEOPLE GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT THE COUNCIL WAS IN ESSENCE TARGETING THEM BECAUSE NOT NOT AT LEAST I CERTAINLY WAS NOT.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT MOVING FORWARD, WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT ANYTHING BUT FIXING OUR LAWS NOT TARGETING SPECIFIC PROPERTIES.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I HAVE ACTUALLY NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD OTHER THAN I DO AGREE WITH WHAT CAROLYN AND JOSH SAID, AND YOU KNOW I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER A GOOD TIME TO DO THIS, BUT YOU KNOW I.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, HAVING LIVED HERE FOR 20 YEARS I, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A BIT OF A SYSTEM HERE TO THAT THAT KIND OF ALLOWS SOME OF THIS STUFF AND I THINK WE NEED TO YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PUT A STAKE IN THE GROUND AND SAY IT'S TIME TO YOU KNOW, LOOK AT A LOT OF THIS STUFF AND THINK THROUGH IT AND BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT AND TO ME THIS THIS IS GOING TO ACHIEVE THAT SO, BUT AGAIN I HAVE NOTHING FOR FURTHER DAD I AGREE WITH WHAT JOSH AND CAROLINA SAID.

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BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THANKS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND I WOULD JUST ADD TO IT THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE WERE NOT TARGETING.

PAM TARLOW RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN KRISTEN DO WE HAVE TO FORMALIZE THAT IN ANY WAY.

KRISTEN WILSON: I JUST MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL.

KRISTEN WILSON: I MAY 5.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE LEAVE THE OR REOPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE SECOND PART OF THE MORATORIUM LANGUAGE TO THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, THANK YOU, RICH I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE US NOW.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: SO DID YOU WANT IT, WOULD YOU MOVE NUMBER 12 UP TO NEXT IF NOT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SORRY, I WAS, I WAS I FORGOT THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES, SO WE HAVE A RESOLUTION FOR NATIVE TREE DEDICATION ON PURCHASE STREET ON APRIL 30 2021 TO EMMANUELLE, ALSO KNOWN AS MANY RICKY OH.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND THAT WILL BE CONCURRENT WITH AN ARBOR DAY OBSERVANCE, THAT WILL BE ARBOR DAY IN FACT AND RICH, GIVEN YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO MANNY IF YOU'D SPEAK TO THE TO THE MATTER THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: WELL, THANK YOU, MR MAYOR SO MANDY RAQUEL WAS WAS MY WIFE ADRIAN'S AUNT SHE LIVED AT THE 1921 PURCHASE TREAT FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS OF HER LIFE.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: AND SHE LOVED THAT BUILDING BECAUSE TO HER, IT WAS A HISTORIC BUILDING THE GARAGE AND BACK AT ONE POINT.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: YOU STILL HAVE HORSES WHEN HORSES WERE THE MAIN MODE OF TRANSPORTATION UP AND DOWN PURCHASE TREE AND THAT SHE PUT A LOT OF LOVE AND CARE INTO THAT BUILDING AND I'D LIKE TO JUST JUST POINT OUT THAT.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: PEOPLE MIGHT NOT KNOW MANNY BUT SHE WAS BORN AND RAISED IN RIGHT OVER IN DUBLIN, WHICH WE STILL UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IF YOU THINK MORE ITALIANS WANT TO DUBLIN.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: THAN THE I, OR SHOULD WE SEND OUR GENERATIONS AND THEN SHE WAS A BIT OF A TRUMP PLAYS JENNER TIME SHE WAS A PROFESSIONAL WOMAN, THE REAL ESTATE EXPERT AND INSURANCE EXPERT AND.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: AND HELPED RUN THE SERIES GARDEN CLUB, BUT THESE THESE THINGS WERE A VERY LONG TIME AGO AND MOST PEOPLE MIGHT NOT KNOW WHY ARE WE, WHO IS THIS.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: NANNY OR MANUAL OR RICKY ON WHY ARE WE DOING THIS AND AND PROBABLY THE MAIN REASON IS MICHAEL WOODRUFF WHICH ARE JEWELERS WHO ARE IN 1921 PURCHASE STREET.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR 30 PLUS YEARS AND AFTER ME AND HE PASSED AWAY, THEY MADE AN OFFER TO TRAIN AND HER FAMILY TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND WE WERE ONLY TWO DELIGHTED THAT THE.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: PROPERTY WOULD STAY IN THE HANDS OF SOMEONE WHO'D LIKE TO KEEP ITS CHARACTER, SO YOU KNOW, A BIG THANK YOU TO MICHAEL WOODROW FOR FOR RECOMMENDING THIS AND GOING THROUGH THE TROUBLE OF HAVING THIS CEREMONY, AND MR MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR MOVING THIS AGENDA ITEM UP.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: I FELT VERY DIFFICULT DAY AND I JUST ABOUT I'M JUST ABOUT DONE SO, IF IT'S A RESOLUTION, AS YOU MAY UNDERSTAND I CAN'T TAKE PART OF THE RESOLUTION, BECAUSE THIS IS A RELATION SO SOMEONE CAN PROCEED.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY SECOND.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HI HI.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: THEY THINK I HAVE PAIN, BUT IF NOT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OTHERWISE THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER, AND I WILL BE THERE SHOULD HAVE BRITISH SHOVEL OR JUST JUST SHOW UP AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK THE WHOLE IS DOUG IT MAY BE BEING DUG WELL I WON'T SAY AS WE SPEAK, BUT PRETTY MUCH.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: I SAW ACTIVITY THERE TODAY SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S I JUST FIND A HARD HAT IS THAT.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: OKAY.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: AS YOU UNDERSTAND I PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO SIGN OFF.

RICHARD MECCA DEPUTY MAYOR: I WILL TALK TO YOU ALL AS NEEDED AS SOON AS I CAN THANK YOU.