Jan 19, 2022 City Council

[1. Roll Call.]

[2. Draft unapproved minutes of the Regular Meeting of the City Council held January 5, 2022.]

[3. Post Ida Storm Update.]

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK WE'RE ALL HERE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND SO I'LL SAY, WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF JANUARY 19 2022.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I MAY HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, KENT'S COUNCILMAN HENDERSON HERE.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN HEARD.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: HERE.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: HERE COUNCILMAN NATHAN.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: HERE COUNCILWOMAN SOUZA.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YEAH COUNCILMAN STACKS.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YOUR HAIR COLON.

HERE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO WE HAVE THE DRAFT AND APPROVED MINUTES THAT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL HELD DECEMBER 15 HAVE THERE BEEN ANY COMMENTS ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS, MR MAYOR.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: SECOND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AYE AYE.

AYE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, THE POST ITIS STORM UPDATE, I WILL BEGIN AND THEN ASK GREG TO TAKE OVER THERE'S ACTUALLY BEEN A LOT OF ACTIVITY, AFTER THE HOLIDAY LOW SO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FIRST, WE HAD A WE GAVE A GOVERNMENTAL GROUP CALLED THE NATURAL RESOURCES, CONSERVATION SERVICE THAT'S IT DEPARTMENT OF THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: US DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, WE GAVE THEM A VIRTUAL TOUR OF RYE, GIVEN THAT THEY'RE GROUNDED DURING COVEN AND COULDN'T COME VISIT US AS THEY HAD WISHED, SO IT WAS A VIRTUAL TOUR OF RYE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WITH THE THOUGHT THAT WERE I MIGHT BE INCLUDED IN WHAT THEY CALL THEIR FLOODPLAIN EASTMAN PROGRAM WHICH ALLOWS FOR BUYOUTS OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES DEMOLITION AND RESTORATION OF THE FLOODPLAIN TO A MORE NATURAL STATE.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO, WHETHER THERE'S A CRITICAL MASS, WHETHER I PROPERTIES ARE TOO EXPENSIVE FOR THE PROGRAM AND WHETHER THE PROGRAM SIMPLY MOVES TOO SLOWLY TO MAKE SENSE FOR RIGHT HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE NOW DEALING AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN WITH FLOOD DAMAGE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE HEARD FROM SENATOR SCHUMER'S OFFICE TODAY WITH THE GOOD NEWS THAT SENATOR SCHUMER HAS FOUND $350,000 FOR US FOR AN ARMY CORPS BLIND BROOK SURVEY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE'RE, OF COURSE, EXTREMELY GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE ASKING IF THIS MONEY IS LIMITED TO WHAT I CALL THE LITTLE PROJECT CORE PROGRAM WHICH IS STUDY FOR CORE PROGRAMS, UP TO A $15 MILLION CAP OR WHETHER THIS CAN BE USED FOR A STUDY THAT COULD TAKE US TO STILL LARGER PROJECT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE ARMY CORPS, FRANKLY, IS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: STEERING US TOWARDS THE VIEW THAT WE WILL NEED A STILL LARGER PROJECT, AND I THINK THAT VIEW IS COMMONPLACE AMONG THOSE OF US WHO'VE REVIEWED THE POSSIBILITIES FOR FOR MITIGATION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE HAD A CALL WITH THE ARMY CORPS AND RECEIVED MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT WE NEED TO GET THEM ACTIVE AND I HAVE GONE BACK TO THEM AS WELL AS TO SHOOT SCHUMER'S OFFICE WITH A QUESTION OF HOW WE CAN APPLY THIS $350,000 THAT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SO FAR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CONGRESSMAN BOWMAN HAS LET US KNOW THAT HE'LL BE BRINGING A SENIOR ARMY CORPS OFFICER TO ARRIVE FOR A QUICK LOOK SEE NEXT WEEK.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE NEW YORK STATE DC HAS INFORMED US OR THEIR ENGINEERING CONTRACTOR HAS INFORMED US THAT THEIR RESILIENCE STREAMS STUDY OF THE BLIND BROOK WATERSHED IS BEGINNING, AS PROMISED LISTENERS MAY RECALL THAT THEY HAD WANTED TO PUSH US OFF TO THE SPRING AND WE HAD GONE BACK AND SAID.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE THOUGHT THAT WAS TOO SLOW AND THEY AND WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THIS SAID WELL WE'LL TRY TO SPEED IT UP AND AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY THEY ARE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SUNY PURCHASE THROUGH CATHERINE PARKER'S GOOD OFFICES, WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE COLLEGE'S FACILITIES AND SUSTAINABILITY OFFICERS WHO INDICATED THAT THEY ARE OPEN TO FURTHER CONVERSATION WITH RESPECT TO POTENTIAL IMPOUND VINCE ON COLLEGE PROPERTY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT THE TOP OF THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OF THE OFFICER HEAP AT SUNY PURCHASE AND WE NEED DIRECTION FROM THE TOP THERE THAT WE THINK THAT THIS THAT THESE OFFICERS GAVE US A GOOD INDICATION, WE UNDERSTAND OUR STATE ELECTIVES HAVE INITIATED CONTACT AT THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AT THE TOP OF SUNY I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S AT THE AT THE ALBANY LEVEL OR AT THE COLLEGE ITSELF BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY IN PROCESS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THEN I'M GOING TO ASK GREG TO PLEASE PICK THIS UP WITH STATUS OF OUR OWN ENGINEERING STUDY, WHICH WILL RUN IN PARALLEL.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SEEMINGLY WITH DC AND IN ADVANCE OF THE ARMY CORPS AND ALSO GREG IF YOU COULD TAKE US INTO THE STORM DRAIN REPORT WE'VE RECEIVED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION ON THAT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT TO COVER.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: EVERYTHING UM WELL A COUPLE OF THINGS VERY QUICKLY, JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE THE THREE NEW YORK RISING PROJECTS HAVE NOW BEEN CONFIRMED TO BE FULLY FUNDED.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: AND WE EXPECT ALL WEALTH, THE MILTON PROJECT IS ALREADY UNDERWAY, THE OTHER TO THE STREAM GAUGE AND THE CLEARING OF THE POND WILL ALL COMMENCE WITHIN THE FIRST.

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GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: RYAN CHRISTIAN I HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF VERY.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: COMPREHENSIVE CALLS WITH A CONSULTING ENGINEER ABOUT DOING OUR OWN INDEPENDENT STUDY OF THE OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND OF THE BLIND BROOK IN ITS ENTIRETY.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: IT WILL PICK UP A NUMBER OF THE STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, TO DATE, AND TAKE THOSE TO A TO A MORE FULSOME.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: FINALE INCLUDING COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, IT ALSO IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO PICK SOME OTHER PROPERTIES THAT HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: INCLUDING SOME PRIVATE PROPERTIES, TO ALSO INCLUDE IN OUR OWN STUDY AND EVEN THOUGH THERE WILL BE SOME OVERLAP WITH THE DC ACTIVITIES.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: BECAUSE THAT DC ACTIVITY DOES INCLUDE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT WE'RE DOING THIS COLLABORATIVELY BY HAVING OUR OWN ENGINEER WERE ABLE TO MOVE A LITTLE.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: QUICKER BUT ALSO ALLOWS US TO DIRECT SOME SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES, THE THE GOAL OF THIS UNDERTAKING IS TO HAVE SOMETHING TO THE COUNCIL BY EARLY MAY.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THAT WILL GIVE HIM KIND OF OVER THE IN THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS, GIVE US THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT A GRID TYPE APPROACH IDENTIFYING WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE MOST IMPACTFUL, WHAT ARE THE WHAT IS THE APPROXIMATE COST, WHAT IS THE COST BENEFIT.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: AND EFFECTIVELY PUT US IN A POSITION AS A COMMUNITY TO BEGIN TARGETING SPECIFIC ACTIONS, BUT ALSO TO HAVE THAT.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THAT APPROACH IN SUCH A FORM THAT ALLOWS US TO ACTUALLY SEEK FUNDING, BECAUSE, AS YOU WERE CALLED THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY THAT'S HAPPENED.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THAT WASN'T COMPLETED OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, THAT IS NOT, THEREFORE, GRANT ELIGIBLE IS NOT FUNDING ELIGIBLE BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS, BOTH OF FEMA AND OTHER REGULATORY BODIES.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: AND SO, OUR GOAL IS TO PUT THE CITY IN A PLACE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO ACTIVELY PURSUE THOSE THOSE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: BUT EVEN MORE SO, TO ALLOW THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE TO LOOK AT THE MYRIAD OPTIONS AND TO BEGIN TARGETING SPECIFIC ACTIONS, THIS IS IT TAKES US BEYOND KIND OF THAT ACADEMIC APPROACH.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THE SECOND THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER TONIGHT, AND THIS REALLY GOES BACK TO A PROMISE THAT WE MADE.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: IN THE WEEKS, RIGHT AFTER IT IS RECOGNIZING THAT THERE WAS FLOODING LOCALIZED FLOODING ACROSS THE CITY.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: IN PLACES THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BLIND BROOK, AND THESE ARE IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE EITHER THE STORM DRAIN CAPACITY WAS NOT SUFFICIENT.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: BUT WERE THERE WERE THERE WERE POTENTIAL OTHER PROBLEMS AND SO RYAN ERIC AND HIS TEAM.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: UNDERTOOK A REVIEW OF MANY OF THESE LOCATIONS MET WITH A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO DID SOME REMEDIAL ACTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS THERE WASN'T.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: EASY DAMAGE OR EASY THINGS TO IDENTIFY TO ADDRESS, BUT ALSO AS PART OF THAT TO LOOK AT LONGER BIGGER SOLUTIONS AND AND SO TONIGHT IS THE BEGINNING OF THAT CONVERSATION.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MATERIAL THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE THAT WAS COMPLETED YESTERDAY, THERE WILL BE MORE TO COME, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO THE PROMISE THAT WE MADE BACK IN LATE SEPTEMBER EARLY OCTOBER TO TO ADDRESS THOSE NON BROOKE AREAS SO RYAN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: GOOD EVENING GUESS SO TONIGHT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: I'M GOING TO QUICKLY RUN THROUGH FIVE OF THE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: MINOR STUDIES THAT WE PERFORMED MINOR MEETING YOU KNOW WE OUTLINE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, AND IN SOME CASES POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS, AND WE SHOULD BE IN A POSITION TO DO THE THE SECOND HALF OF THOSE THERE'S ABOUT A DOZEN TOTAL.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, IF IF SO DESIRED SO I'M JUST GOING TO JUMP IN HERE AND AND KIND OF GOES THROUGH.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WHERE WE ARE THESE ARE IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN SEE MY SCREEN HERE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO THIS IS A SECTION OF THE BOSTON POST ROAD NEAR OLD POST ROAD IN HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL FIELD.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND LET ME SEE IF MY.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: PEN WORKS HERE, BUT THIS AREA BEHIND THE PROPERTIES ON THE BUS AND POST ROAD AND OLD POST ROAD IS.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IS LOW AND IN A BOWL WE DO HAVE SOME DRAINAGE SHOWN IN THESE BLUE LINES THAT TAKES WHOLE POST ROAD DRAINAGE THROUGH THOSE PROPERTIES ACROSS THE BOSTON POST ROAD.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THROUGH SOME MORE PROPERTIES AND EVENTUALLY OUT TO THE BLIND BROOK SO THERE, THERE IS A WEAPON SYSTEM IN THE REAR YARDS OF THESE OLD POST ROAD HOMES AND IN LARGER SWAN EVENTS YOU'LL SEE WATER PUNTING THEY DO HAVE THEIR OWN PRIVATE DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT'S CONNECTED TO HOURS BACK THERE.

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RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: FORMED COLVER SO IT'S IT'S NOT A PIPE AT ALL IT'S IT'S ANCIENT AND IT'S IT'S JUST STACKED STONES WITH A CAPSTONE OVER THEM.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT'S ABOUT LET'S CALL IT 15 BY 15 INCHES IN DIAMETER AND THEN IT GOES INTO AN EIGHT INCH PIPE THAT ZIGZAGS DOWN TO THE BLIND BROOK.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO WE HAVE A 15 INCH PIPE THAT'S RESTRICTED INTO AN EIGHT INCH PIPE THE BROOK GETS HIGH THE OUTLET SO GETS COVERED THE WHOLE SYSTEM BACKS UP AND.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU CAN SEE SOME PAWNING BACK HERE IN THIS LITTLE PLUS ROAD AREA, SO THIS IS A THEME THROUGH THESE THESE ISSUES TONIGHT AND, AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT YOU KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO DRAIN A BOWL THROUGH A PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO ONE ONE OPTION THAT WE, WE COULD DO WOULD BE TO REPLACE THAT STONE COLBERT AND THEN ALSO ADD A DRAIN DOWN THE BOSTON POST ROAD SHOWN HERE AND READ.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND CONNECT TO ANOTHER DREAM AND SYSTEM IN FRONT OF THE FIELD THAT ACTUALLY GOES DOWN AND DISCHARGES AFTER THE OTHER END ZONE, SO IT WOULDN'T, BE IT WOULD BE A PIPE IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S THERE, SO IT ACTS AS AN OVERFLOW OF WATER WOULD BACK UP.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE ONLY OTHER OPTION WE WOULD HAVE HERE IS TO REPLACE THIS PIPE IN AND SHOWN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT SHOWN IN STRAIGHT LINES, BUT YOU KNOW WE'D HAVE TO DO SOME SERIOUS LOCATING BECAUSE IT KIND OF MEANDERS THROUGH HERE AND, POTENTIALLY, EVEN UNDER A HOUSE, SO THIS CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT SO FOR THIS ONE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THERE'S THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT WE CAN ADD A DRAIN LINE HERE TO HELP AND NOT ELIMINATE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SOME TEMPORARY BONDING THAT HAPPENS HERE IN THE BACKYARDS I'M JUST GOING TO KEEP MOVING THROUGH THESE REAL QUICK AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS BY ALL MEANS SHOUT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: BUT I HAVE TO SHARE AND SHARE AGAIN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: NOW I PROJECT.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: HEY BRIAN JUST JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE I WANT ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT INCLUDED HERE IS IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THE MAT THE FLOODING THAT TOOK PLACE DURING HENRI IDA OR EITHER REGULAR STORM EVENTS TO KIND OF WHAT THE WHAT THE MAGNITUDE OF RAINFALL, IT TAKES FOR THAT KIND OF FLOODING AND THEN SECONDLY, HOW MANY HOMES OR HOW MUCH OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE IMPACTED.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: YOU KNOW, FOR FOR THESE.

SO.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU'LL SEE SOME PINING BACK HERE IN IN 10 YEARS STORM AND HIGHER THE AREA OF PONDERING TOPIC GRAPHICALLY LET ME GET MY HIGHLIGHTER OUT HERE AGAIN, BUT THE AREA OF PONDERING IS ROUGHLY HEAR IT, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ENTER THIS HOUSE, IT CAN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: GET INTO THE BASEMENT OF THIS HOUSE AND UP HERE SO IT'S A LOT OF PROPERTY IT'S STANDING WATER IT TAKES A WHILE, OF THE DRAIN, AND THEN IN IDA YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE IT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: DID REACH REACH THE NOT THE FIRST FLOOR IS, BUT IT DID REACH THESE THESE RESIDENCES SO IT'S YOU KNOW POTENTIALLY THREE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: STRUCTURES AFFECTED, AND THEN YOU KNOW IT'LL FIT THERE FOR A WHILE THAT WATER, YOU KNOW STAYS STAYS A LITTLE BIT OF A OF A LAKE SO YEAH THAT'S THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS GUY.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: BOULDER ROAD WE'RE GOING TO NEXT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: ALL THE ROAD.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: TAKES DRAINAGE FROM YOU KNOW, LET ME, LET ME SHARE A DIFFERENT SCREEN HERE REAL QUICK BOULDER ROAD TAKES DRAINAGE FROM.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: NURSING WAY.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: MEAN NOT SHARE A DIFFERENT SCREEN, BUT IT TAKES TAKES TRAINERS FROM THE NURSING WAY GRAMMAR SEE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND LANE AND THE SYNAGOGUE SO THAT THAT RIDGE LINE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WITH.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WITH THIS DRIVEWAY RIGHT HERE BEING THE SYNAGOGUES DRIVEWAY SO IT TAKES A BUNCH OF DRAINAGE AREA AND ENTERS IN WHAT IS AN 18 INCH PIPE THAT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: RUNS ACROSS THE FIRST PROPERTY ACTUALLY UNDER NUMBER FOUR BOULDERS FOUNDATION UNDER THE BASEMENT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: ZIGZAG ZIGZAGS TO THE BACK OF THE REST OF THE PROPERTIES AND GETS OUT INTO PLAY INLAND LAKE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THERE'S A SHED HERE AT NUMBER I THINK 10 OR EIGHT.

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RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE PIPE IS CRACKED UNDER THIS FOUNDATION, THE TOP OF THE PIPE IS IS CRACKED AND STARTING TO COLLAPSE, AND THE SAME THING AROUND THIS THE SHED AND THERE'S SOME OTHER CRACKS ALONG ALONG THE WAY OUT SO ON THIS ONE WE ACTUALLY ARE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SECURING A CONTRACTOR NOW TO REALIGN THIS PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE WHOLE WAY OUT TO STONY PRESSED SO REALIGNING THE PIPE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR SEWERS BUT THEY BASICALLY INSERT A CAST THROUGH.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE PIPE PUMPING THROUGH HOT WATER AND IT CURES AND IT EFFECTIVELY GIVES YOU A NEW NEW PIPE THE DESIGN LIFE IF YOU ASK THE PIPELINE INDUSTRY IS 40 OR 50 YEARS, ALTHOUGH.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A GUARANTEE THE PIPE LINING WILL SOLVE THE CRACKING PROBLEM AND DURING IDA AND OTHER RAIN EVENTS.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED TO US BY THIS PROPERTY OWNER THAT WATER WILL ACTUALLY PUMP UP THROUGH THE BASEMENT FLOOR PRESUMABLY THROUGH THE CRACKS IN THIS PIPE, ALTHOUGH I CAN'T NECESSARILY CONFIRM THAT, SO THEY WILL SOLVE THAT PROBLEM AND IT WILL.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT WILL STRENGTHEN THIS PIPE AND PREVENT ANY FURTHER COLLAPSE WHAT IT WON'T DO IS INCREASE ANY CAPACITY IN THE PIPE BUT ANY MEASURABLE AMOUNT, SO THIS AREA FLOODED IN IN IDA.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE FOREST AVENUE YOU BOULDER ROAD INTERSECTION WILL POND WATER TO THE POINT WHERE WE CLOSE THE ROAD.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT HAPPENED IN IT AND HAPPY TO NOT AGREE AND IT'S HAPPENED PRIOR TO THAT NOW THERE'S A CATCH BASIN IN THE CORNER OF OUR ON FOREST AVENUE, AND IT ACTUALLY HAS A SMALLER EIGHT INCH PIPE THAT CONNECTS IT IS LARGER 18 INCH PIPE SO IT'S.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IN IN LARGER RAIN EVENTS, EVEN IF THIS 18 INCH PIPE IS NOT SURCHARGE THAT EIGHT INCH PIPE IS NOT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: LARGE ENOUGH TO CONVEY ALL THE WATER THAT COMES DOWN TO FOREST AVENUE SO POTENTIALLY THAT EIGHT INCH PIPE COULD BE MADE LARGER, WHICH WOULD HELP THE FOREST AVENUE FLOODING SITUATION AND CERTAIN RAIN EVENTS BUT OH PUT MORE MORE WATER THROUGH THAT PIPE THE THE OTHER OPTIONS WE HAVE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: OUR A EXPENSIVE AND MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT WHAT WE COULD DO IS REPLACE THIS PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: I'M NOT SURE WHY IT'S NOT SHOWING UP BUT REPLACE THIS PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: POTENTIALLY WITH A LARGER PIPE AND ALMOST IN ITS LOCATION, BUT NOT SORRY NOT DO.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: NOT NECESSARILY GO UNDER A HOUSE, SO WE COULD REPLACE THIS PIPE WHERE MY BLUE LINE IS.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: EFFECTIVELY IN KIND, AND A LITTLE BIT LARGER AND OUR OTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO RUN A NEW PIPE DOWN BOULDER ROAD AND STONY CREST CIRCUMVENTING ANY NEED FOR.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: EASEMENTS OR PRIVATE PROPERTY DISRUPTION, IT WAS INTERESTING NOT SAYING THAT THERE ARE NO FORMAL EVENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND FOR THIS PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: ON ANY OF THE PROPERTIES.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THIS ANALYSIS WAS DONE WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT'S THE CITY'S PIPE IT DOES TAKE DRAINAGE FROM FOREST AVENUE BUT IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S PRETTY.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: PRETTY OLD IF WE DID THIS OPTION HERE WITH A NEW PIPE THROUGH BOULDER AT THE HIGH POINT OF BOULDER WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND WHERE THE BOULDER ROAD IS SHOWN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 25 FOOT ROCK EXCAVATION TO TO PUT THAT PIPE IN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: I DON'T HAVE COST INFORMATION FOR ANY OF THIS, BUT I WOULD EXPECT THAT TO BE IN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: LOW MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DO THAT WORK IN ADDITION TO.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE DISRUPTION OF.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THAT KIND OF OF INSTALLATION IT'S GOING TO BE AN EASY JOB YOU'D BE LOOKING AT TEMPORARY UTILITIES FOR THE HOMES, PROBABLY ROAD CLOSURES BLASTING.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW THAT THAT SORT OF THING SO IN IDA.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE FLOODING, WE SAW AND IT WAS THE FOREST AVENUE BOULDER INTERSECTION WHICH GOT UP AND DOWN THIS DRIVEWAY AT TO BOULDER.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND AFFECTED THIS PROPERTY RIGHT AT THE SYNAGOGUE'S ENTRANCE.

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RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT DID FLOOD, THEY HAVE A DRAIN IN THAT THAT'S CONNECTED TO OUR PIPE IN THEIR IN THEIR SIDE YARD, THAT IN THAT SURCHARGE THEY EXPERIENCED FLOODING IN THEIR BASEMENT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND NUMBER SIX ACTUALLY, THIS IS A DRIVEWAY TO A GARAGE UNDER AND THE DRAIN AND LET THE DRAINS THE DRIVEWAY IS DIRECTLY ON TOP OF THE PIPE SO AS AS THIS PIPE SURCHARGE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THEY EXPERIENCED FLOODING, AND I THINK AS AS THE HOMEOWNER DESCRIBED IT HER HER BASEMENT DOOR BLUE IN FROM THE PRESSURE OF THE WATER HERE ONE OPTION.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: NOT NECESSARILY INVOLVING THE CITY, WOULD BE TO CLOSE THIS DRAINING IT UP AND PUT A SEPARATE ONE, IN THAT, BUT CONNECTING IT WITH THE CHECK VALVE THAT WOULD WOULD DRAIN THE DRIVEWAY ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY RELY ON ON THIS PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: TO DO SO.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO THAT'S BOULDER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE DID HAVE SOME AND NEVER BEEN BEFORE YOU GO ON.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HERE YOU SAID THAT THAT'S BOULDER AND I HAVE SOME BOULDER QUESTIONS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OH FEMININE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO IF WE REALIGN OR WE ARE GOING TO REALIGN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I ASSUME THAT WILL BE CLEARING SOME OBSTRUCTIONS OR PARTIAL OBSTRUCTIONS THAT AS YOU'VE DESCRIBED CRUSHED PIPE YOU'VE DESCRIBED A SHED FOUNDATION ON THE PIPE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WHAT GREATER EFFICIENCY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THAT 18 INCH PIPE ONCE WE HAVE IT REALIGN AND IT'S IT'S FREE OF THE CRUSHED AREAS IN THE SHED FOUNDATION INSTRUCTION.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT WILL FLOW BETTER THERE, THERE WERE THERE ARE SOME OBSTRUCTIONS SMALL PIECES OF BROKEN PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THERE, THERE ARE NOT WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE AS BLOCKAGES BUT YES, WHEN WE ARE DONE WHAT THE PIPE LINING WORK IS REQUIRED TO DO WOULD BE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: TO CLEAN THE ENTIRE PIPE SO THERE'S NO DEBRIS NO BROKEN PIPE PIECES OR ANYTHING, AND THEN THE DOES LINING CAST, IF YOU WILL FORM TO WHATEVER SURFACES ARE THERE, SO IT ACTUALLY.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: FORMED UNDER THAT THAT STONE SHED AND WHAT YOU WOULD EFFECTIVELY HAVE IS NEW PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND ON TOP OF THAT THERE'S SOME MINOR EFFICIENCIES, EVEN IF THE PIPE WERE PERFECTLY ROUND.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THERE'S A MINOR EFFICIENCIES TO LINING IT BECAUSE YOU'RE LINING IT WITH A SURFACE THAT IS SMOOTHER THAN THE PIPE THAT'S THERE, SO, IN EFFECT, YOU GET A LARGER.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: CAPACITY FLOW CAPACITY THROUGH THE MATH, THEN YOU HAVE NOW SO IN THIS CASE WITH AN OLDER PIPE AND THEN ALSO LINING, YOU WILL SEE SOME INCREASED FLOW BUT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY AS MUCH AS IT INCREASED PIPE SIZE WOULD BE PRECISE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: UNDERSTOOD AND YOU MENTIONED THAT THE CATCH BASS AND IT FOREST AVENUE THERE'S A CONNECTION THERE, THAT IS AN EIGHT INCH PIPE AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO HOW EXPENSIVE THAT REPAIR LOOKS, THAT IS, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT LARGER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: PIPE SIZE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO DO THIS, BUT TO GO TO 12 OR 16 OR 18 IS THAT A VERY EXPENSIVE THING TO DO, I'VE OBVIOUSLY IT WILL BE NOTHING LIKE CARVING UP 25 FEET OF ROCK ALL ALONG BOULDER ROAD BUT CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF THE EXPENSIVE THERE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THAT CONNECTION FROM THE CATCH BASIN TO CHANGE THAT FROM AN EIGHT TO LET'S CALL IT EVEN AN 18.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IS IS NOT EXPENSIVE IT'S SOMETHING THAT IF WE NEEDED TO DP W CAN EVEN DO SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE COST OF THE PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WHICH WHICH WOULD BE IN THE YOU KNOW HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS TO 1000, EVEN IF I GOT A CONTRACTOR WOULD BE A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: UM WHAT'S THE TIMING OF THE REALIGN AND I'M ASKING THAT WITH THE THOUGHT THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT SORT OF IMPROVEMENT WILL HAVE.

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RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: CORRECT SO WE'RE WORKING ON SCHEDULING THE CONTRACTOR THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF WHETHER.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WEATHER DEPENDENT, BECAUSE THE WATER THAT THEY USE IS HEATED, BUT IT MY EXPECTATION WOULD BE THE NEXT TWO TO FOUR WEEKS THAT WOULD BE COMPLETE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT'S GREAT AND THEN JUST ONE MORE THING AND AND I THINK THIS IS A GENERALIZATION AND IT MAY APPLY TO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: A NUMBER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WE HAVE MANY HOMES IN RIVE THAT HAVE GARAGES UNDER AND AN IDEA, IN PARTICULAR, JUST THE CAPACITY OF OUR STREETS SURFACES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN OVERWHELMED AND WATER FILLED THE STREETS ON ITS WAY TO WHATEVER CATCH BASINS, WE HAD AND WENT DOWN DRIVEWAYS ALONG THE WAY, AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MY IMPRESSION IS THAT THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR IN AT LEAST SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUAL FLOODING SCENARIOS, BUT I'D REALLY ASK YOU TO SPEAK TO THAT RYAN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YES, THAT THAT WAS THE CASE IN A IN A FEW AREAS AND JUST SINCE I'M ON THIS MAP THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED HERE ON THE CORNER OF FOREST AND FIELD STONE, SO THE THIS RESIDENT HAS A GARAGE UNDER NOW FOREST AVENUE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IS VERY FLAT IN THIS PORTION BUT, AS THE WATER DID RUSH DOWN THE STREET, IT TURNED AND WENT DOWN HIS DRIVEWAY AND HE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SAW SOME SIGNIFICANT FLOODING OF HIS GARAGE AND HIS HIS BASEMENT HE HAS SINCE DONE SOME WORK TO HIS DRIVEWAY AND AND WE DID SOME WORK TO THE INTERSECTION OF FIELD STONE AND FOREST THAT HOPEFULLY WILL WILL HELP HIM, ALTHOUGH POTENTIALLY NOT IN AN ITA SAME THING HERE WITH THIS PROPERTY.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: RIGHT NEXT TO THE SENATE OUR DRIVEWAY AND ALSO TO BOULDER SO AS IN THIS IN THESE CASES IS THIS DRAIN IN THE CORNER EXPERIENCES PONTING IT RUSHED DOWN THE DRIVEWAY, BUT IT WAS ALSO ENOUGH WATER JUST TO RUN DOWN AND WE'VE SEEN THAT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW THE CURRENT THE ROAD SHOULDERS AND THE CURBS ARE MEANT TO CONVEY.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WATER AND WHEN WE SAW AS MUCH RAIN, AS WE DID AN ITA.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IN MANY CASES, THOSE SIX INCH HIGH CURVES ARE RUNNING FOR OVER WITH WATER, SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY UNDER IT WAS A GOOD CHANCE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET SOME STREET WATER DATA DRIVEWAY REGARDLESS OF OF STORM DRAIN ISSUE.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: MAYOR, IF I CAN JUST ADD JUST.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: OTHER COMMENTARY THAT I'M ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE THAT RYAN UNDERTOOK THIS AND HAVE THE CITY COMMITTED ITSELF TO DOING THESE STUDIES.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: ARE THESE REVIEWS WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT IN CASES WHERE THERE WAS FLOODING.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: IF YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS, AS YOU POINT OUT, IT WAS CAUSED BY IDA THAT THE MAGNITUDE OF THE WATER WAS JUST TOO GREAT FOR THE STORM WATER SYSTEM TAKE.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: VERSUS CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE EITHER THERE WAS A COMPROMISE PIPE A BLOCK PIPE OR SOME OTHER THING THAT WE COULD SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: AND I THINK THAT YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT RYAN DID HERE AND THE CONCLUSION THAT LED US TO LINING THE PIPE HERE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT, I MEAN THERE WAS A RESIDENT THAT.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: GOT FLOODED IN SOME PART I CAN'T YOU KNOW BREAK OUT HOW MUCH, BUT IN SOME PART BECAUSE OF A COMPROMISE PIPE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: WE'VE DISCOVERED THE SAME THING WHEN REVIEWING MIDDLE AND AVENUE WITH THE COUNTY FINDING THAT THAT PIPE THAT GOES TO THE INTERSECTION OF 95 OR THE ENTRANCE RAMP THE 95.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT PIPE WHICH THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING SO WE WANTED WE'RE TRYING TO SEPARATE THOSE THINGS THAT ARE YOU KNOW IT'S.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: RESPONSE THAT WE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE AWARE, IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS AND THINGS THAT WE CAN CORRECT VERSUS MORE SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS OR JUST SIMPLY THE VOLUME OF THE WATER WAS JUST TOO GREAT FOR THE SYSTEM.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST REALLY QUICKLY WHAT'S THE APPROXIMATE COST OF LINING THE PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT WAS IT JUST UNDER $70,000.

THANKS.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO, MOVING ALONG AGAIN INTERRUPT ME IF, IF NEED BE, IS IS DRAKE SNIFFLING.

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RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: RUNS THROUGH A PRIZE ME HE'S BEEN OUT SOME INTERESTING WAY AND THEN DOWN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND THIS PROPERTY AT I WANT TO SAY NUMBER 85 DRAKE SNIFFLING IS YET ANOTHER GARAGE UNDER.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: DOWN ON THE SIDE OF THE RESIDENTS AND THEY THERE'S DRIVEWAY DRAIN CONNECTS TO A CITY DRAIN THAT GOES OUT TO.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THAT DRAIN OUT TO NURSING WAY THIS PROPERTY AT FIVE HAS SEEN FLOODING, A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, WHICH IS THE NEW PHENOMENON, THE FIRST THAT WE WERE MADE AWARE OF.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WAS ACTUALLY DUE TO SOME HEAVY TREE ROOT INFILTRATION AND A SECTION OF PIPE OVER HERE THAT RESTRICTED THE FLOW OF COMING DOWN THE STREET.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND THEY FLOODED IN IT WAS A GOOD RAIN EVENT, A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT IT WAS NOWHERE IN HERE AND NAMED STORM, SO WE DID CLEAR THAT PIPE OF THE TREE ROOTS WE DO CAMERA THAT PIPE SOMEWHAT FREQUENTLY AND MAKE SURE THAT WINE IS CLEAR, SO THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN, BUT IN THE CASE OF IDA.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THIS AREA OF.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: PLAN LAKE OR MIGHT BE NURSING CREEK AT THIS POINT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WAS YOU KNOW OVER NURSING WAY SUBMERGE THIS OUTFALL PIPE AND AND THE WATER, BACKED UP AND IT COULDN'T TAKE WHAT IT DID FROM IT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: BUT THE ANOMALY HERE THAT I CAN'T QUITE FIGURE OUT IS THE PIPE OR FIGURE OUT WHY THE PIPE DOWN DRAKE SMITH ACTUALLY TAKES A 90 DEGREE TURN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND RUNS THROUGH AN EASEMENT AND WAS INTENTIONALLY DONE TO A POINT WHERE THIS MANHOLE IS WHERE IT TAKES THE CONNECTION FROM 85 AND THEN RUNS DIAGONALLY BACK OUT TO DRAKE SMITH AND WE ARE LOSING SOME EFFICIENCY IN THAT DRAIN LINE THROUGH THOSE TURNS.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO A SOLUTION TO THAT ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE WOULD BE TO INSTALL THAT 50 FEET OF PIPE CONNECTING THOSE MANUALS.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THIS POSSIBLE, THE REASON THAT WAS DONE WAS TO AVOID SOME SOME BEDROCK THAT WOULD MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF SENSE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: BUT YOU KNOW IT'S NOT A LONG RUN IT'S NOT A DEEP PIPE AND IT COULD BE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT COULD BE A SOLUTION TO HELP.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: ALLEVIATE SOME SOME CONCERN HERE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IF WATER DOES BACKUP OR FRANKLY, IF IF THE DRAINAGE THAT GETS INTO THESE THREE CATCH BASINS OVERWHELMS THIS TURN SO YOU CAN DO THAT, WE COULD PUT A LITTLE CHECK VALVE ON, AND SO THE WATER DOESN'T.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: BACKUP FROM OUR PIPE IN INTO THAT THAT PROPERTY I CAN'T RELATE RELATE TO YOU THAT THAT'S A.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: PROBLEM SOLVER AND THEY WOULD NEVER FLOOD AGAIN, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A SOMEWHAT RELATIVELY SIMPLE IMPROVEMENT THAT WE COULD GIVE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WITH NO QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO MOVE ON, BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE JUST SHOOT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: NEXT, WE HAVE PICS PARK.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO A FEW A FEW ISSUES HERE BUT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AGAIN, LET ME GET MY HIGHLIGHTER OUT BOTH OF THESE DEPICTED DRAINAGE AREAS MEETING THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF THE COMBINED DRAINAGE AREA.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IS WHAT GETS THROUGH ONE PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THAT RUNS THROUGH DESBOROUGH PARK AND OUTLETS BACK INTO THE TITLE MARSH BEHIND STERLING FIELD, SO THIS ONE PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND IT'S NOT A SMALL PIPE I THINK IT'S A 36 INCH PIPE AND MIGHT EVEN INCREASED TO A 40 BACK HERE, BUT THIS ONE PIPE TAKES ALL OF HICKS PART.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: MOST OF DESBOROUGH PARK, OR AT LEAST THE PAVE SURFACES OF IT, AND THE REST OF THIS AREA AROUND BOSTON POST ROAD IN OAKLAND BEACH, INCLUDING PORTIONS OF OSBORNE ROAD AND THE END OF FORDHAM AND FRANKLIN AVENUES.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THESE LIGHT BLUE LINES SHOWN ARE SITTING TRAIN PIPES.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO WE DO SEE SOME FLOODING WHAT WE SAW SOME FLOODING AND A.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: BUNCH OF LOW SORT OF LOW LINE OR, AT LEAST ON THEIR WAY DOWN THE HILL AREAS.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: BUT, SPECIFICALLY REGARDING KICKS PARK.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WE HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT BOWLS AGAIN, WHERE THE TOPOGRAPHY SURROUNDS THEM HERE ON THE END OF WHITE BIRCH AND HICKORY.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE ONLY WAY WATER TO GET IT GETS OUT OF HERE IS IS THROUGH THE CITY PIPE.

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RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND BENNETT STREET AND A PORTION OF LINDBERGH ARE ALSO.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: LOW AND EXPERIENCED FLOODING SO WITHIN HIS PICS PARK, THE NUMBER OF EFFECTIVE RESIDENCES IS PROBABLY LARGER THAN WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THESE OTHER STUDIES IN THAT YOU KNOW IT MIGHT BE A DOZEN PROPERTIES DIRECTLY AFFECTED, WITH WITH DAMAGE AND THEN ALSO YOU KNOW THE ROADS ARE CUT OFF SO.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AN OPTION HERE THAT WE COULD CONSIDER WOULD BE TO INSTALL THE NEW PIPE FROM THIS INTERSECTION OF CHAMBERLAIN THORN AND OPEN BEACH THAT WOULD CONNECT TO THIS OPEN BEACH AVENUE DRAIN AND RUN A NEW PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THROUGH DESBOROUGH OR MAYBE DOWN FOREIGN PLACE WITH ITS OWN DISCHARGE, SEPARATE FROM THAT OF HICKS PARK SO EFFECTIVELY I'M TAKING WHAT 78 AND 49 IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 130 ACRE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WATERSHED AND WE SPLIT THAT INTO TWO SUB WATERSHEDS THAT WOULD EACH HAVE THEIR OWN CONVEYANCE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND WE COULD LOOK AT INSTALLING CHECK VALVES ON THE END OF THESE PIPES, BECAUSE THE INVERT DOWN HERE IN THE MARSH THE INVERT MEANING THE ELEVATION THAT OUTLETS IS SOMEWHERE AROUND THREE AND A HALF FEET.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WHERE A NORMAL HIGH TIDE WILL GET UP TO YOU KNOW SEVEN, SO WE DO SEE SOME TITLED BACK WATER IN THIS SYSTEM, ANYWAY, AND ESPECIALLY DURING A STORM EVENT, SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A LARGER POTENTIAL SOLUTION.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: TO AN ISSUE BUT IT'S ALSO A LARGER AFFECTED AREA.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THAT WOULD HELP IT, IT MAY EVEN HELP SOME PROPERTIES ALONG THE BEACH AVENUE, I KNOW, ON ALLENDALE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THEY EXPERIENCED AND SIGNIFICANT FLOODING HERE AS THE GOLF COURSE DRAIN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: TRAVERSES THROUGH THEIR THEIR PROPERTIES AND THIS WHOLE PIPE WITH SURCHARGE DOWN HERE, YOU KNOW IT JUST WANT TO HAVE THE TITLE BACKWATER TO IS JUST TOO MUCH WATER FROM 130 ACRES TRYING TO GET THROUGH THAT ONE PIPE SO IT WOULD HELP KICKS IT WOULD ALSO HELP.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW THE ALLENDALE OPEN BEACH AREA THAT THAT HAS ITS OWN LITTLE VALUE IN IT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO A BUNCH OF THAT IS THE GOLF COURSE AREA THAT DOES CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: CLEARLY, THE THE THERE'S A LOT OF LAND FROM THE GOLF COURSE THAT DOES RUN THROUGH THOSE PIPES I WOULDN'T SAY NECESSARILY AT THE GOLF COURSE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: CAUSES FLOODING IN HICKS PARK.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: BUT BY WAY OF CONTRIBUTING TO A DRAINAGE AREA IT'S AFFECTED SO BY DOING BY SEPARATING THOSE FAMOUS AREAS WE MIGHT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LARGER PROJECT WILL BE ABLE TO HIT SOME SOME CHECKS AND BOXES OFF ON ON ON SOME ISSUES.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ROCK.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: RYAN, WHEN YOU SAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LORD HERE I'M SORRY BEN GO AHEAD.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: GO AHEAD, MR MAYOR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: UM WHEN YOU SAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LARGER PROJECT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CAN YOU GUESS GUESSTIMATE COST.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW I DIDN'T GET THERE, YET I THINK THAT'S THE NEXT STEP FOR US AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SAY JUST BECAUSE I THINK WE, WE NEED TO DO SOME EXPLORATORY WORK BACK HERE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY ROCK OR IF WE'RE JUST DIGGING THROUGH WHAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVELY, YOU KNOW BE NON ROCK OR MARSHY STUFF SO.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT'S HARD TO SAY I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW IT'S IN THE MAGNITUDE OF WHERE WE BE ON ON THE BOULDER ROAD EXCAVATION YOU KNOW I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE MILLIONS, BUT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IT'S IT'S HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS, AT A MINIMUM, AND WE ALSO HAVE TO REFINE THE SCOPE, A LITTLE BIT IF YOU IN THE REPORT, THE ANALYSIS, WE DID.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: LET ME SEE IF I CAN ZOOM IN HERE THIS AS AS THE PIPELINE UNDER THE TENNIS COURT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THIS ISN'T EXACT BUT IT'S PRETTY CLOSE, WE HAVE A JUNCTION OF A BUNCH OF PIPES THAT ARE UNDER THE TENNIS COURT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE TENNIS COURTS PAVED OVER A MANHOLE THAT'S ACTUALLY SINKING WHICH IS AFFECTING THE TENNIS COURT, SO IF WE DO WORK.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT, I THINK WE WOULD LOOK TO CAPITALIZE ON THE ON THE WORK AND MAYBE REROUTE SOME PIPE AROUND THE TENNIS COURT, SO THAT THE TENNIS PARENTS AREN'T AS EFFECTIVE SO THINGS LIKE THAT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO DO MY NIGHT INCREASE EXPAND THE SCOPE AND INCREASE THE COST, SO I THINK ON THIS ONE I'D SAY THAT THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO LEAD US TO REFINE THIS CONCEPT, A LITTLE MORE, AND MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH WITH SOME MORE SOLID ANSWERS TO THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE GOLF CLUB IN ITS PRESENTATION, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, AND THIS IS PERHAPS TOO SPECULATIVE OR TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD TO CONSIDER, BUT WAS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TALKING ABOUT TAKING STEPS TO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LIMIT ANY STORMWATER EFFECT AND THE THOUGHT WAS TREE PLANTINGS WILLOWS IN PARTICULAR, I THINK, WERE MENTIONED BIO SWALES ETC.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE FOR YOU RYAN TO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HELP US CONSIDER WHETHER THERE IS ACTUALLY ANY HELP TO BE IN THERE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YEAH I'M NOT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: TOO FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPOSAL BUT I'LL GET THERE, THOSE THOSE SORTS OF THINGS THAT CAN SLOW WATER DOWN BEFORE THEY THEY REACH A DIFFERENT AREA ALWAYS DO HELP FILE SWELLS ARE GREAT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: TREES ARE ARE GREAT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND THEN YOU KNOW I THINK WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF THE STRAIN AND SEAN SOUNDVIEW TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO WITH THAT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: ALL ALSO THAT MIGHT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: TAKE SOME OF THIS CONTRIBUTING WATERSHED INTO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, SO I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AT THE GOLF CLUB THAT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: BY NO MEANS WILL WILL HURT AND BY ALL MEANS COULD COULD HELP SLOW DOWN THE FLOW OF WATER, BUT I I'D HAVE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE FAMILIAR WITH THEIR PROPOSAL.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: UM IF I MIGHT RYAN, YOU MENTIONED, I MEAN, BY THE WAY, HAVING SUFFERED AT THE HANDS OF A FLOOD, WHILE I LIVED ON BENNETT WHILE MY HOUSE WAS RENOVATED, I CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT IT IS IN THE BOTTOM OF A BOWL.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO FOR THIS AREA, TO HELP OUT I THINK WOULD BE FANTASTIC MY ONLY POINT THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP IS WHEN YOU SAID THAT WE COULD RUN THIS ADDITIONAL PIPE.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THAT THE HIGH TIDE LEVEL IS SEVEN FEET, SO THAT IF YOU HAVE A COMBINATION OF A BIG STORM AND A HIGH TIDE.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE'RE GOING TO GET JAMMED UP REGARDLESS OF PUTTING A NEW PIPE WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE FACED WITH POTENTIAL BACKUP THROUGH THE PIPING SYSTEM RIGHT AND THE HIGH TIDE IS THAT WHAT YOU MEANT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO, SO THAT THAT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YES, IS THE SHORT ANSWER THE LONG ANSWER IS, WE WOULD TRY TO DO THINGS AND I JUST WE HAVE THIS DESIGN IS NOT REFINED IN ANY WAY IT'S CONCEPTUAL BUT BY PUTTING A CHECK VALVE ON THAT OUTLET PIPE IT WOULD ELIMINATE TITLE WATERS FROM AND BACK ENTERING INTO THE PIPING SYSTEM.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WHICH COULD BE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WHICH IF THE PIPES FILL UP AT THAT POINT THEY'RE ONLY FILLING UP WITH THE DRAINAGE AREA THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THEM, NOT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WITH THE TITLE WATER EFFECT AND THERE'S CHECK VALVES WHICH WE INSTALL DOWN IN THE HARBOR HOUSE A BUNCH OF YEARS AGO AND WE'RE DOING WITH THE NEW YORK RISING DOWN THERE WHERE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THEY'RE DESIGNED SO THAT IF IF THE TIDE IS LET'S SAY ONLY HALFWAY UP THE PIPE WATER CAN STILL GO OUT OF THE OTHER HALF LET'S CALL IT, ON TOP OF THE TIDE FOR FOR LACK OF A BETTER DESCRIPTION.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CAN DO THERE, IN ADDITION TO MAYBE AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THIS YET, BUT MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO INCREASE THAT NEW PIPES ELEVATION MAYBE WE DON'T NEED IT AS DEEP AS THE OTHER PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO WE CAN POTENTIALLY GET AN UP OUT OF OR MORE OUT OF THAT THAT TITLE EFFECTS, SO THE LITTLE BIT MORE TO DO ON THIS DESIGN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: BUT WE DID COME UP WITH THE CONCEPT AND YEARS AGO WE DIDN'T LOOK AT SPEAKING OF BENNETT STREET.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND THE GOLF COURSE WE DID LOOK AT, TO SEE IF WE CAN TAKE YOU KNOW THIS END OF THE AREA REROUTED INSTEAD OF GOING NORTH DOWN CHAMBERLAIN GO DOWN SOUTH AND CUT THROUGH THE GOLF COURSE AND GO OUT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: BUT IT JUST WASN'T AS FEASIBLE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: BIG ROCK EXCAVATION HERE AND BY THE TIME YOU'RE DONE, I THINK YOU GET MORE BANG FOR THE BUCK, WITH A NEW PIPE DYLAN NORTH BUT THAT'S JUST AN ADDED POINT.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THANK YOU.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: RIGHT AND THE ONLY OTHER THING IF YOU CAN ADD SOME COLOR ON THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS THAT THIS IS SOME OF THIS AREA IS PRONE TO MORE REGULAR FLOODING.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: IT'S OBVIOUSLY EXACERBATED BY IDA ON MRI BUT IT'S IT'S MORE OF A REGULAR FLOODED AREA JUST BECAUSE OF THE SURFACE AREA AND THE LOW LINE PROPERTY.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: BUT YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF HOMES THAT ARE AFFECTED IN IT, AS WELL AS JUST SOME REGULAR STORMS WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WHY I THINK YOU SPENT THIS MUCH TIME ON THIS PROJECT.

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RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WHITE BIRCH AND HICKORY.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: ISN'T A LITTLE BOWL EDIT WILL RECEIVE WATER, I THINK, SOMEBODY RESIDENCES WERE FLOODED IN AN ITA SUBSTANTIALLY, BUT THIS AREA WILL FLOOD.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW MORE REGULARLY THAN AN IDEA EVENT BUT NOT NOT EVERY TIME IT RAINS BUT THEY WILL GET PONTING HERE, YOU KNOW LET'S CALL IT EVERY YEAR AND AND BENNETT STREET IS HAS BEEN DESCRIBED ALSO ANOTHER LOCATION WHERE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW THE TRAIN IS JUST FLAT IT'S REALLY LOW, IT HAS TO GO ALL THE WAY.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AROUND YOU KNOW HERE TO GET BACK AROUND SO.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YEAH THIS THIS HITS A FEW MORE HOUSES, THEN A COUPLE OF THESE OTHER ANALYSES AND I THINK.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: MIGHT BE WORTH ANOTHER LOOK.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND LAST TONIGHT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IS KIRBY LANE NORTH.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO THIS IS A AGAIN IN THE IN THE PINK IT'S A DRAINAGE AREA MAP OF WHAT ENDS UP GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF YET ANOTHER BOWL THIS ONE ELEVATION WISE IS A LITTLE DEEPER HAVE A BOWL.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: BUT CURRENTLY NORTH YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THEM AS NAPA TRULY NORTH COMES OFF OF GRACE CHURCH STREET AND AND WINDS UP AROUND INTO A CUL DE SAC AND THERE'S A LOW POINT HERE WE HAVE A PUMP STATION SEWER PUMP STATION HERE THAT HE INSTALLED AS PART OF THAT TRIVIA NORTH DISTRICT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: A BUNCH OF YEARS AGO.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND THIS DRAIN THAT CITY OWNS THAT GOES OUT AND THEN THROUGH SOME PRIVATE PROPERTIES OUT TO THE MILL POND POND.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IS THE ONLY WAY FOR THIS WATER TO GET OUT, I MEAN WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY A 20 FOOT GRADE CHANGE BETWEEN THE INTERSECTION AND THE BOTTOM AND THEN BACK UP AGAIN SO IN IDA.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THIS BLUE AREA.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IS WHERE WE SAW SOME SOME FLOODING SOME TEMPORARY PONTING UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THIS DRAIN WAS ABLE TO TO GET THAT WATER OUT AND IT'S LOW POINT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW, THERE WAS MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE FEET OF WATER ACROSS TRIVIALLY NORTH IT WAS INACCESSIBLE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: BY VEHICLE ANY VEHICLE AS IN A BOAT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND THIS RESIDENT HERE, I WANT TO SAY IT'S NUMBER FOUR BUT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE FIRST HOUSE DOWN ON THE RIGHT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WAS THE PROPERTY THAT DID RECEIVE SOME DAMAGE, I WANT TO SAY THEIR CRAWL SPACE AND SOME OF THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOME, BUT THEY ALSO RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED A GARAGE IN THIS AREA OVER HERE AT DETACHED GARAGE THAT RECEIVED SOME SIGNIFICANT FLOODING.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND AGAIN, THIS THIS ONE IS IS A LITTLE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: TOUGH IN THAT THE ONLY WAY TO GET OUT IS THROUGH THIS THROUGH THIS PIPE WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF OPTIONS HERE, YOU KNOW ONE PRAISE YOU AND NEXT BUT CAN WE CAN WE PIPE IT DOWN AROUND HERE THROUGH THE FBI BUILDING CONNECTED MIDDLE AND DRAIN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO THAT THE ANSWER THAT IS NO THE MIDDLE OF MOVING DREAM IS IS HIGHER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE TO ALLOW THAT TO CONNECT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: LOOKED AT CAN CAN SOME OF THIS DRAINAGE AREA BE DIVERTED TO VERY STRICT STREET OVER HERE, WHICH THEN GOES OUT THE DIFFERENT WAY TO PURCHASE OR HARBOR AREA.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THAT DREAMS HIGHER SO REALLY THE ONLY WAY OUT FOR ALL OF THIS WATER, WHETHER DRIZZLES AND GETS THROUGH THE PIPE OR WHETHER IT'S A SIGNIFICANT STORM OF AGAIN AND IT TEMPORARILY PONDS.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE ONLY WAY OUT IS THROUGH THAT PIPE THIS PIPE AS IT GOES UP PERMANENTLY NORTH AND NOW TO GRACE CHURCH STREET IS VERY FLAT, IN FACT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: A SECTION OF THE PIPE WAS REPLACED WHEN WE DID THE PUMP STATION AND IT'S ACTUALLY BACK PITCHED TOWARD THE PUMP STATION.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: A LITTLE BIT SO IT'S IT'S FLAT AND THEN PROBABLY SETTLED A LITTLE BIT SO WATER HAS TO BUILD UP IN THIS CATCH BASS AND JUST TO GET OUT TO THE POINT WHERE I CAN WHERE TO GO.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO THIS ONE'S AGAIN A LITTLE LITTLE TOUGHER.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IF YOU READ THE ANALYSIS, IF YOU WANTED TO GET THE HUNDRED YEARS STORM OUT OF THIS PIPE YOU NEED A FIVE FOOT DIAMETER PIPE RUN AT TWO AND A HALF PERCENT.

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RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: TRYING TO DESIGN THAT AND WHAT DO YOU END UP WITH ON A ON A PROFILE HERE IF WE CAN SEE, THIS IS.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WHAT WOULD BE A FIVE FOOT DIAMETER PIPE HERE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: TO GET OUT TO THE THE MILL POND.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE MOST I CAN GET SLOPE LIES JUST BY ELEVATION IS ABOUT A PERCENT 1.2% OF PERCENT OF THE QUARTER SO HALF IS HALF AS STEEP AS THAT WE NEED TO BE, WHICH MEANS THAT 60 INCH DIAMETER PIPE TWO AND A HALF PERCENT ISN'T EVEN FEASIBLE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO YOU'D BE LOOKING AT AN EQUIVALENT DIAMETER THAT'S LARGER THAN FIVE FEET MEETING THIS SLOPE, TO GET OUT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND THIS WOULD BE IN PROFILE VIEW THE DEPTH OF THE EXCAVATION SO BOULDER WAS 25 FEET, AND THIS IS 30.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: RIGHT THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION HERE GRACE CHURCH STREET AND PEDALING.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THROUGH THESE THROUGH THESE PROPERTIES SO.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW THIS IS A.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: I SHOWED THIS FOR AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE BECAUSE REMOVING THE HUNDRED YEARS STORM AND IDA STORM FROM HERE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IS A PRETTY PRETTY HEAVY LIFT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW BORDERLINE NEED TO RETHINK A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE AS FAR AS FEASIBILITY IS CONCERNED, SO.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND ACTUALLY THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THAT THAT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THIS IS COLORED REALLY WELL, BUT IN ORDER TO GET THAT FIVE FOOT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: DEEP TALL PIPE IN HERE WE ACTUALLY HAD TO FILL THE LOW POINT OF PROBABLY NORTH A COUPLE FEET, JUST TO EVEN GET SOMETHING THAT LARGE IN HERE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WHICH IS YOU KNOW ANOTHER ANOTHER OPTION OR ANOTHER IDEA WOULD BE, WE CAN RAISE THE ROAD YOU KNOW PREVIOUSLY NORTH ITSELF.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: TO TRY TO TRY TO RAISE IT TO THE POINT WHERE IT WOULD BE ABOVE ANY.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: FLOODING OR, AT LEAST AS MUCH FLOODING, AS WE COULD THAT WOULD, IF WE DID THAT YOU KNOW WE'D HAVE TO CONSIDER HOW THAT AFFECTS.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE DRIVEWAY AND THE RESIDENTS, THE ONE RESIDENCE THAT ACTUALLY FLOODED HERE, SO I SAY ONE RESIDENTS FLOODED WITH THE ROAD WAS FLOODED FOR AN EXTENSIVE PERIOD OF TIME UNTIL TILL THE WATER SUBSIDED.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND THE OTHER 13 PROPERTIES ON FERVENTLY NORTH WERE YOU KNOW CUT OFF FROM ACCESS I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT'S IT'S ONE PROPERTY OF FLOODING, BUT YOU KNOW IT, THE REST OF THESE RESIDENTS ON 3 BILLION NORTH THE YOU KNOW COULDN'T GET IN OR OUT OF THEIR.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THEIR HOMES, FOR YOU KNOW, THE BETTER PART OF THE DAY, UNTIL AFTER AFTER THE STORM.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'D LIKE TO PICK UP ONE POINT SHE MADE RYAN, IF I MAY, CERTAINLY IN OUR DISCUSSIONS OF BLIND BROOK FLOODING WE'RE CONSISTENTLY GETTING THE MESSAGE THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE AS A CITY SHOULD NOT BE THINKING ABOUT CONQUERING THE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD OR THE HUNDRED YEAR PLUS FLOOD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE GREAT DIFFICULTY AND TREMENDOUS EXPENSE THAT THAT PRESUMABLY WOULD REQUIRE AND FROM YOUR COMMENTS, IT SOUNDS AS IF YOU HAVE BEEN THINKING OF THIS RESPONSIVE LEE TO WHAT HAS OCCURRED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WHICH WAS IDA REALLY IN EXCESS OF OUR HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M JUST WONDERING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IF, AS WE GO FORWARD AS A CITY AND CONSIDERING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THESE REPAIRS, WE SHOULD BE THINKING OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE MIGHT BE REAPING IN LESSER FLOOD CIRCUMSTANCES, HOPEFULLY, THOSE LESSER FLOODS OR WHAT WOULD BE MORE THAN NORM THAN IDA IN THE FUTURE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SURE UM SO YOU KNOW A FEW DIFFERENT INSTANCES THAT'S EXAMPLES THAT WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT DRAIN ON FOREST AVENUE AT THE CORNER OF BOULDER EIGHT INCH PIPE.

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RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND THE BENEFIT, THERE WOULD BE REDUCED PONTING ENCLOSURES ON FOREST AVENUE IN CERTAIN STONER EVENTS SO THAT COST BENEFIT LOW COST, EVEN IF YOU WERE TO BENEFIT ONE STORM EVERY FIVE YEARS, NOWHERE NEAR IDA.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW THAT COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS JUST DONE IN YOUR HEAD SEEMS TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF SENSE IN THE IN THE IN THE SCENARIO OF KIRBY NORTH.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: INSTALLING REINSTATE YOU KNOW EXCAVATING.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: ROCK YOU KNOW THE PIPE AND THEN ALSO ROCK THROUGH SOME PRIVATE PROPERTIES WHICH IS ABOUT IT'S ABOUT 900 FEET FROM THE LOW POINT TO THE MILL POND.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WHETHER THAT PIPE IS 24 INCHES OR 36 INCHES THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE COST INCREASE IN THAT WORK SO DOING ANY WORK THERE IS GOING TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT COST.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE BENEFIT WOULD BE SO YOU KNOW RE INSTALLING A PIPE I SAID 60 INCHES IN DIAMETER, EVEN IF I WE DO THAT ANALYSIS AND SAY 36 INCHES AND I CAN TELL YOU HOW MANY STORM EVENTS THAT WILL HELP.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: AND THAT COST DIFFERENCE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: MIGHT NOT BE THAT GREAT TO GO TO A 48 INCH PIPE FROM A 36 INCH PIPE BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL DOING THAT EXCAVATION YOU'RE STILL DOING THAT WORK, SO WE WOULD HAVE SOME WORK TO DO, BY ALL MEANS, IF WE CAN HELP.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: STORM EVENTS LESS THAN IDA I'M ALL FOR IT RIGHT, HOPEFULLY WE DON'T GET ANOTHER ITEM, AND WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT SMALL RESTAURANT EVENTS, BUT I THINK EACH SCENARIO MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND HAVE ITS OWN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW STORY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO THAT'S WHAT I HAD FOR TONIGHT THERE'S SOME ANALYSES REPORTS IN YOUR AGENDA.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: IF YOU WANT TO READ THROUGH ENOUGH QUESTIONS I'M GLAD TO ANSWER THEM WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE OR SIX MORE OF THESE FORTHCOMING WHICH WE CAN SPEAK AT AT THE NEXT MEETING OR AFTER AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS NOW OR OR LATER.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IF THIS IS HELPFUL, I THINK, AS WE STOPPED THEM ALL NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND TRYING TO SEE YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK AND HOW BIG BUCK.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WELL WE'LL HELP, THANK YOU FOR THIS WORK.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RYAN, THANK YOU, WHAT ARE THE THE OTHER PLACES YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOU, SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SURE, SO WE HAVE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE END OF SANFORD STREET AND ROOSEVELT ADJACENT TO THE PLAYLAND.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: PARKING LOT LESS SAL AVENUE MARLENE PORT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THE RED MAPLE SWAMP AND NURSERY FIELD AREA WHICH IS TIED INTO THE OTHER COUPLE WHICH ARE MOVING AVENUE, SO WE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: I'M NOT GOING TO DO A DRAINAGE ANALYSIS FROM NORTHERN AVE AS A COUNTY ROAD WE SORT OF KNOW WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WHERE WE ARE BOTH IN THE SOUTH IN THERE BY INTERVAL AND ALSO IN NORTH AND GOING TO FORRESTER BY PACK JUST BECAUSE WE'RE SO AFFECTED BY THOSE BOTH AND ADRIENNE AND I WANTED TO AT LEAST RELAY.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LONG HOW LONG DO THESE PROJECTS TAKE SO YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU BREAK GROUND.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: UH YOU KNOW EACH ONE WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANSWERS FOR THAT I THINK THE THAT'S, FOR INSTANCE, THE PROJECT ON TRACK SMITH, WHERE WE PUTTING IN 50 FEET OF PIPE THAT MIGHT TAKE.

[4. Continue the public hearing to create a new local law amending Chapter 197 “Zoning” of the Code of the City of Rye setting new restrictions on lot width and configurations of properties in new subdivision.]

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU'RE PROBABLY IN THAT THAT RANGE THAT COUPLE OF THAT WOULD BE CURVEBALLS WOULD BE THE THE BOULDER ROAD OR THE THE CARIBBEAN, A NORTH FINGER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A ROCKET SITUATION THAT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T DONE AS A CITY, BEFORE I WANT TO PUT THAT IN AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE HERE A 30 FOOT ROCKET IS SOMETHING THAT'S NORMAL.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW INFRASTRUCTURE INSTALLATION FOR FOR US, SO IF WE IF WE DO GO DOWN THAT ROAD, WE SHOULD.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW JUST LET RESIDENCE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE INTO BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S A CONSTRUCTION JOB THAT'S NOT A DW JOB THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONSTRUCTION JOB OKAY.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: RYAN THANKS SO MUCH THIS IS AWESOME AND NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN I'M QUESTION JUST I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALREADY.

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EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: REPAIR OR IS THAT IS STEMMING FROM IDA STORM DAMAGE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS IT.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: SO YOU KNOW THE RESIDENCES AT FOREIGN SIX RECEIVED SOME FLOODING AND AS PART OF THIS ONGOING WORK, WE WERE DOING DOWN AS THE STORM DRAINS BE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: WE VIDEO CAMERA DOWN THE DRAIN LINE AND IT JUST IT'S AT THE POINT WHERE IT'S CRACKED AND COLLAPSING UNDER A HOUSE AND, QUITE FRANKLY I DON'T KNOW HOW.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: TO ALLOW THAT TO GO MUCH LONGER RIGHT, AND IF THAT PIPES COLLIDE THERE'S NO FIXED ASSETS UNDER UNDER SOMEBODY FINISHED BASEMENT SO WE WANTED TO GET THAT DONE, AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS ON BOULDER IF WE CHOOSE TO BUT JUST TO SOLIDIFY THAT PIPE.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO DO JUST TO DO THE LOCATION OF IT.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: KIND OF.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: WHAT WE COMMITTED TO DO IN THE FALL WAS IN THE FIRST INSTANCE CAMERA AND REVIEW ALL OF THESE REPORTED FLOODING LOCATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WASN'T SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT EITHER THAT WE NEEDED TO REMOVE DEBRIS OR SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: WHEN RYAN DISCOVERED THE THE ISSUE UNDER THE HOUSE AND WE SIGNED AN EMERGENCY, YOU KNOW PURCHASE ORDER TO GET THIS DONE, BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A CITY INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE AS MUCH AS JUST FOR YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND YOU KNOW THE THAT DAMAGE TO THE HOUSE.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: SO WE'RE GOING TO WILL CONTINUE TAKING THOSE TYPE OF ACTIONS THAT WE NEED TO ANYTHING REMEDIAL AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IF IT BECOMES A MAJOR PROJECT LIKE A.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: PIC SPARK OR BOLD OR WHATEVER, THEN THAT ENDS UP YOU KNOW, BEING MORE BUILT OUT AND DESIGNED AND BROUGHT TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION WITH EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE TIP.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU RYAN.

RYAN COYNE CITY ENGINEER: THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE MOVE ALONG TO OUR CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING WITH RESPECT TO FIRST UP IS THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CHAPTER 197 OF THE SEAS CODE SETTING NEW RESTRICTIONS ON LOT WITH AND CONFIGURATIONS OF PROPERTIES IN NEW SUBDIVISIONS, AND WE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HAVE WITH US.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TO HELP US THROUGH THIS CHRISTIAN MILLER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LET ME ASK YOU KRISTEN WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HELD OVER IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS COUNCIL QUESTIONS SHOULD WE ASK THEM BEFORE WE REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OR DO WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING HEAR THE PUBLIC AND THEN TAKE ON OUR OWN QUESTIONS.

KRISTEN WILSON: I WOULD, IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS I WOULD DO THAT AS PART OF THE THE HEARING SO AS PART OF THE RECORD AND IT'S UP TO YOU, MR MAYOR IF YOU'D RATHER HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC FIRST OR IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO ANSWER, OR HAVE THAT ASK THEIR QUESTIONS FIRST.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND, BEFORE WE PROCEED WE HAVE NICK EVERY IS AN ATTENDEE AND HE HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ALSO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL KRISTEN IF YOU COULD.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RUN HIM ELEVATED AS A PANELIST YES PLEASE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WELCOME, NICK, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US AGAIN, AND YOU KNOW THE LAST MEETING I.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: NEGLECTED AND PERHAPS SOMEONE ELSE DID IT FOR ME, BUT IF, IF NOT THERE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WAS A COMMITTEE THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WORKED WITH NICK AND CAROLINA AND CHRISTIAN AND I KNOW ALL OF US ON THE COUNCIL WANT TO THANK THAT COMMITTEE FOR PUTTING IN THE TIME AND EFFORT TO GIVE US THIS DRAFT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO DO DO PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS ON WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, WHICH IS REALLY ONE PAGE AND I ALASKA THE COUNCIL FIRST AND GET US OUT OF THE WAY AND THEN INVITE PUBLIC.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES, JOSH NATHAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH IT'S IT'S LOTS OF QUESTION AND MORE OF.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I MET WITH NECK PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING AND HE WAS EXPLAINING SEVERAL OF US MET WITH PROBABLY EVERYONE HERE HAS MET WITH NICK AT SOME POINT, BUT HE WAS EXPLAINING THE RATIONALE BEHIND THE.

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JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SORT OF THE AESTHETIC AND LOT DESIGN OF.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OUR COMMUNITY AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL SO I'M GOING TO BUTCHER IT INSTEAD OF DOING THAT I THOUGHT IT'D BE GREAT IF NICK.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST EXPLAIN THAT, FOR THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR AT LEAST FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE WHAT WHAT WHAT'S DRIVING THIS SO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THINK THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE MY PRINCIPAL QUESTION IS EVEN AFTER LISTENING TO THE LAST MEETING, WHY IS THE 60 FEET SUFFICIENT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: PROTECTION ALL THE WAY THROUGH OUR ONE ON, THAT IS, FROM OUR ONE THROUGH OUR SIX AND THEN WHY DO WE GO TO 50 FEET AWAY IS THAT SUFFICIENT PROTECTION AND OTHER DISTRICTS.

NICK EVERETT: I WILL CAROLINA DIVIDED THE GROUP INTO DIFFERENT SUBCOMMITTEES LOWER BRETON AND BART PARTNER AND MYSELF ARE WORKING ON THIS, SO CALLED FLAG ODD ISSUE.

NICK EVERETT: AFTER LOOKING AT WE DID DIAGRAMS OF ALL THE ZONES, WE SORT OF LOOKED AT THEM TOGETHER AND.

NICK EVERETT: THE CONCEPT CAME THAT IF WE TOOK THE WHIP REQUIRED, WHICH ARE STREET FRONTAGE OF THE SMALLEST LOT, WHICH IS BASICALLY OUR OUR SIX LOT.

NICK EVERETT: AND USE THAT AS THE WIDTH.

NICK EVERETT: IT BASICALLY TOOK THE ABILITY TO HAVE A FLAG LOT ON ANY OF THE SMALLER ZONES OUT OF THE PICTURE.

NICK EVERETT: AND WHEN WE DID OUR ANALYSIS IT REALLY THERE ARE SEVERAL AREAS WHERE THERE HAD BEEN FLAGGED LOTS IN OUR ONE THE ONE ACRE ZONE OR ARE TO THE HALF ACRE ZONE.

NICK EVERETT: THAT REALLY WERE FINE THEY DIDN'T CAUSE THE PROBLEMS THE PROBLEMS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND EXPERIENCED OVER THE YEARS, WHERE WITH ALL THE SMALLER ZONES, THEY ARE THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX.

NICK EVERETT: SO, BY USING THE 60 FEET, WHICH IS ALREADY A STANDARDIZED WITH FOR THAT ZONE IT'S THE SMALLEST ZONE IT'S A VERY SIMPLE WAY TO DO THAT.

NICK EVERETT: AND EVEN IF YOU HAD A SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE WANTED TO MAKE A FLAG LOT IN THE LARGER ZONES, IT STILL TAKES A FAIRLY LARGE WITH THE 60 FEET UNTIL YOU AVOID HAVING THE CONCEPT OF TO DRIVE A SNAKE UP BY FEET APART.

NICK EVERETT: AND IT ALSO.

NICK EVERETT: WHAT WE DIDN'T THINK AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE HERE IS IN SOME OF THE TWO FAMILIES OWNS THE RT ZONE, PARTICULARLY.

NICK EVERETT: IT'S ONLY REQUIRED TO BE 50 FEET, WHICH IS WHY CHRISTIAN HAS ADDED THIS IN THOSE ZONES, IT WOULD STILL BE A 50 FOOT REQUIREMENT FOR THE ONE LOT BEHIND ANOTHER.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO, BY DOING THIS WE'RE PRESERVING THE AESTHETICS OF LOT FRONTAGE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN A IN A MANNER THROUGHOUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY THERE'S SORT OF AN ELEGANCE TO THIS IS SORT OF OUR STANDARD FRONTAGE AT THESE WIDTHS AND THAT'S THE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE EXPERIENCE OF MOVING AROUND THE CITY THAT'S WHAT WE'LL SEE MORE OF INSTEAD OF SORT OF ALL SORTS OF WONKY THINGS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF THESE MR MAYOR, IS THAT THEY WILL WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CLEAR CUTTING WHEN THERE IS A SUBDIVISION YOU KNOW COMING INTO A SMALLER LOT PEOPLE TEND TO CLEAR CUT THE THE LOT TO CREATE THE SUBDIVISION SO THAT'S ANOTHER BENEFIT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I APPRECIATE THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JOSH NATHAN AND AND PERHAPS NICK YOU WERE DESCRIBING THIS IN TERMS OF FRONTAGE, I THINK, THOUGH, ONE OF OUR CONCERNS, WAS ALSO JUST DENSITY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M WONDERING IF AT THE 60 FEET.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: NOW I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT FOR MOST OF OUR ZONES, EXCEPT BR ONE AND OUR TO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE DENSITY THROUGH A FLAG LOT AT ALL.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BUT THAT IT MAY BE THE CASE WITH RESPECT TO AN R TWO WHEN ARE ONE THAT YOU STILL WILL BE ABLE TO, AND THOUGH THE FRONTAGE WILL ISSUE MAY MAY BE SOLVED, WE WILL STILL HAVE THE DENSITY IF WE INCREASE THE 60 FEET, EVEN BY A LITTLE TOO WE.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TO DIMINISH THE POSSIBILITY OF THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ARE TWO AND OUR ONE FLAG LOTS AGAIN WITH WITH WITH A VIEW TO AVOIDING THE DENSITY ISSUE.

NICK EVERETT: BUT I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO.

NICK EVERETT: BE TOO CONCERNED ABOUT FLAG LOT, PARTICULARLY IN AN R1 ZONE THERE'S SO MUCH LAND IN THAT SITUATION AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY AREN'T PROBABLY THAT MANY PROPERTIES LEFT AND RIGHT THAT WOULD QUALIFY BUT.

NICK EVERETT: IT'S NOT A DENSITY ISSUE YOU HAVE VERY LARGE SETBACKS OR REQUIRE IN THE ZONE AND THE HOUSES THERE'S ENOUGH ACREAGE THAT THE HOUSES COULD FIT WITHOUT BEING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.

NICK EVERETT: YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THE 50 FOOT FRONT YARD REQUIREMENT, WHICH MEANS THAT IN OUR ONE ZONE, THE FRONT YARD AND OUR TWO ZONE, AS WELL AS IS 35 FEET SO.

NICK EVERETT: WITH THE ADDED 50 FEET OF HOUSE WOULD HAVE TO BE AT FIVE FEET FROM THE NEW YORK SETBACK WE'VE ALSO PUT INTO THIS, THAT THE FRONTAGE REQUIREMENT WOULD HAVE TO EXTEND TO THE REAR YARD SETBACK, SO THAT WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE GERRYMANDERING THAT GOES ON.

NICK EVERETT: BECAUSE THE CONFIGURATION OF A LOT WOULD HAVE TO BE SQUARE ALL THE WAY TO THE REAR YARD SETBACK LINE, SO I THINK THAT THE DENSITY ISSUE IS REALLY A CONCERN IN THE ARE THREE THROUGH OUR SIX ZONES AND IT'S NOT SUCH A CONCERN IN THE R1 AND AND, TO SOME DEGREE IN THE ART TO.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BECAUSE I'M MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE VISUAL TWEET CURLING IF YOU'D LIKE A PICTURE WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE WE SAY 16 VS 85 CAN WE SEE THIS ON A.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LIKE A LOT NAP OR SOMETHING TO SHOW WHAT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I MEAN I JUST I JUST KNOW.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE HAVE A LITTLE DIAGRAM THAT NICK MADE BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE IS GOING TO MAKE SENSE OR BEING FOCUSED, OR ARE YOU KNOW VERY EASY TO.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RIGHT NOW IT'S.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SO THE BEST I COULD DO IS I COULD SHOW YOU A ZONING MAP OF THE CITY AND YOU COULD SEE ARE BAILING LOTS I'M FOLLOWING UP ON THIS.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THIS SUBSTANTIAL MAJORITY OF THE LOTS IN THE CITY OF RYE, IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF LOTS IS.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IS THE ARE FOURS AND THE ARE FIVE SO THOSE ARE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT AND 7500 SQUARE FOOT LOTS SO IN.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THERE'S A LITTLE TOO MUCH COLOR HERE I DON'T LIKE THIS BASE MAP, BUT YOU CAN SEE, ALL OF THIS AREA SAY RIGHT AROUND RIGHT TOWN PARK, THIS IS ALL OUR FOUR AND OUR FIVE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND YOU CAN SEE, THIS UNIFORMITY, THIS IS HIGHER DENSITY IN HERE MOVING UP INTO THE CITY ALL THE ARE FIVES AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL NOTICE, SPECIFICALLY WITH LOT WITH.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: MANY OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS PREDATED THE CURRENT ZONING CODE, WHICH WAS LAST COMPREHENSIVELY DONE IN 1956.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SO WHEN THEY DID THAT IN 1956, YOU WILL SEE A NEIGHBORHOOD WELL AND I I'M COMPLETELY EYEBALLING THIS AND I JUST HAVE DONE THIS THAT I KNOW.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU'LL SEE PREVAILING LOT WIDTH OF 4050 AND 60 FEET WERE IN AN AR FIVE ZONE, THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR WIDTH IS 75 SO THE ZONING CODE WHEN IT WAS CHANGED IN.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: INCREASE LOT WITH AND CREATED A LOT OF SITUATIONS WHERE THE NEW LOCK WITH NEW AS OF ANYTHING HAPPENING AFTER 1956 WOULD BE MUCH LARGER THAN THE PREVAILING LOT PATTERN IN THE LOT WIDTH SO YOU ALREADY HAVE THIS LARGER THAN IT WAS, AND IT IS SPEAKING TO YOUR POINT, MR MAYOR.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SO THAT IS WHY IN THIS PROPOSAL YOU'RE JUST MAINTAINING YOUR EXISTING LOT WITH REQUIREMENT TO GO EVEN BIGGER, YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF CREATING MORE NONCONFORMITY.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: WHICH, WHICH IS A BIT OF A OF A CHALLENGE, SO TO GET AROUND THAT THIS IS A COLOR MAP OF ALL THE ZONING DISTRICTS.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THE YELLOW ONES WHERE THE 60 FOOT WITH WHICH IS SHOWN HERE WAS SORT OF THE BASIS WHAT WE REALIZED, IS THAT IN A HANDFUL OF CASES IN THE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: RT AND RA DISTRICTS WHERE APARTMENT DISTRICTS, YOU CAN HAVE A WIDTH OF SAY SMALLEST 50 FEET FOR ONE FAMILY.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN OBVIOUSLY IN THOSE HIGHER DENSITY DISTRICTS WERE THERE TO FAMILY AND MULTI FAMILY ARE PERMITTED THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING FOR THAT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THEY'RE NOT GOING FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME SUBDIVISION AND AN RA OR AN RT DISTRICT IS OFTEN SO THAT IS WHY THAT ADJUSTMENT WAS MADE ALL OF THIS BEING SAID, THE NUMBER OF LOTS THAT THIS.

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CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SUBDIVISION THERE'S THERE'S NOT MANY SUBDIVISIONS LEFT AND THE ONES THAT COULD HAVE MAYBE BEEN DEVELOPED UNDER THE CURRENT LAW, THOSE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO GO AWAY, BUT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IF THEY WERE TO BE SORT OF THESE GERRYMANDERED LOT LINES OR FLAG LOTS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE LARGE BASICALLY DOUBLE SIZED LOT AND THERE'S JUST THERE'S JUST NOT MANY OF THOSE AS YOU SCROLL AROUND THE CITY.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: EVERYTHING IN BLUE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YEAH UNDER UNDERSTOOD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IT AT LEAST AS I'M SEEING THIS PROJECT IT'S PART OF.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AN AN EFFORT TO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: EASE CONCERNS ABOUT DENSITY ALL OVER I AND ADMITTEDLY THOSE REMAINING LARGER PROPERTIES ARE SUBSTANTIALLY HELPFUL AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AVOIDING A SENSE OF DENSITY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I I'M LESS CONCERNED WITH THE NUMBERS, THAT IS, OR LESS CONCERNED WITH A SMALL NUMBER THAN JUST A PRINCIPLE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SO IF WE WERE TO CHANGE A LOT WITH I'D HAVE TO SPEND MORE TIME THINKING ABOUT THE REGULATORY IMPACT THAT THAT WOULD HAVE ON ALL THE OTHER EXISTING LOTS WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU WOULD AFFECT A LARGE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES, WE WOULD HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT CREATION OF THAT NONCONFORMITY AND THAT WOULD BE ON A HOUSE THAT HAS NO SUBDIVISION PROPOSED.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SO WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BUT LET'S LET'S HOLD HOLD THE FOURTH.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: QUESTION, THOUGH.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU JUST SAID, IF IT'S LIKE IF THERE'S 120 FEET OF FRONTAGE AND SOMEBODY COULD SPLIT IT IN HALF.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND SUBDIVIDED RIGHT THERE YEAH THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM SO BUT THAT'S WHAT'S COULD YOU KNOW I THOUGHT IT WAS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT THAT WAS CONTRIBUTING TO THE CLEAR CUTTING TO BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU HAVE ONE HOUSE WITH A BUNCH OF TREES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO DIVIDE THE LOT THEY'LL SEND YOUR CLEAR CUTTING WHERE ALL THOSE TREES WERE TO PUT IT ON THEIR HOUSE AND THERE.

NICK EVERETT: WAS THIS LITTLE CONFUSION HERE IF YOU'RE 120 FOOT AND YOU WANTED TO SUB DIVIDE INTO TWO LOTS IT ONLY WORKS IF YOU'RE IN THE ZONE.

NICK EVERETT: DIRECT AND IT DOESN'T WORK UNLESS YOU'RE IN ANY OTHER ZONE, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL LARGER FRONTAGE.

NICK EVERETT: SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A WRONG EXAMPLE WE PICK THE 60 BECAUSE IT WAS A CERTAIN ELEGANCE TO IT, AND THAT IS THAT'S THE WIDTH OF THE SMALLEST ZONE.

NICK EVERETT: EVEN IF YOU DO A FLAG LOT IN A LARGER ZONE, YOU STILL HAVE TO MEET ALL THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND, AS I SAID.

NICK EVERETT: YOU KNOW FLAG SITUATION, YOU HAVE THE ADDED 50 FEET, TO THE FRONT YARD, YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THE SIDE YARD THEY'RE VERY ART SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULD CONTRIBUTE.

NICK EVERETT: TO MAKING SURE THAT IN THOSE LARGER ZONES IT WOULDN'T INCREASE THE DENSITY, THAT WOULD BE A NOXIOUS OR UNDESIRABLE TO THE COMMUNITY.

NICK EVERETT: CLEARLY, IT WOULD ELIMINATE THE IDEA OF FLAG LOT IN THE SMALLER ZONE, AND THAT WAS THE OBJECTIVE TO DO THAT SIMPLY AND EASILY WITH A WIDTH REQUIREMENT AND IT MIGHT STILL ALLOW IT IN THE IN THE R1 AND MAYBE THEY ARE TOO, BUT THOSE ARE LESS CONCERNED AND THE SMALLER FOUR ZONES AND.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND EVEN IN THOSE ZONES IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE THAT IMAGINE A FLAG LOT, AND YOU KNOW, THEN THE FLAGPOLE PORTION OF IT TODAY CAN BE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: MAYBE ONLY 20 FEET WIDE THE CODE ISN'T SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT NOW YOU'RE MAKING THAT FLAGPOLE MINIMUM THREE TIMES.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THE WIDTH AND YOU CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING IN THAT PORTION OF IT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FIT A HOUSE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED THE WIDTH YOU CAN'T THE BUILDING ENVELOPE WON'T WON'T SUPPORT IT, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY DRIVEWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THAT FLAGPOLE IS.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU KNOW TRIPLING IN SIZE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: THAT'S SOMETHING I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY I.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: UM YOU KNOW ME I LIVE IN A HOUSE THAT'S IN FRONT OF A FLY BLAH, AND SO I HAVE THIS PARTICULAR IDEA OF WHAT IT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BUT SO THAT PAUL NEED.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: RIGHT NOW, THE FLAG RIGHT NEXT TO ME, IT HAS A DRIVEWAY WITH OF A POLE, SO IT WOULD NEED LIKE YOU JUST SAID, SO THE WIDTH IS THAT 60 FEET THAT'S WHAT THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BECOME.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THAT POLE WOULD GO THROUGH YOUR LIVING ROOM.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: RIGHT GOT IT OKAY, AND THEN.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: ANOTHER INTO COULDN'T HAVE THE TWO.

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EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: OKAY, AND THEN THIS IS A STUPID QUESTION BUT I'M GOING TO ASK IT BECAUSE I'M STRUGGLING WITH WHEN I THINK ABOUT SUBDIVISION I THINK ABOUT THAT HUNDRED AND 20 FOOT LOT THAT WE DIVIDE 6060.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IN AS NICK POINTED OUT IN THERE ARE SIX ZONE WHICH.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IS NOT VERY MUCH OF THE CITY.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: OKAY, BUT SO I'M.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: YOU KNOW MY UNDERSTANDING, I GUESS THE FLAG LOT IS A SUBDIVISION WITH.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: OUR GOAL.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: IS TO AVOID SORT OF THE FRONT AND BACK SITUATION OR IS OUR GOAL TO AVOID SUBDIVISION.

NICK EVERETT: THE FRONT END WEB.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YEAH FRONT TO BACK OR YOU KNOW GERRYMANDERING OF THE LAT LINE CONTORTING IT TO THE POINT THAT IT MEETS THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS, BUT EFFECTIVELY.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU KNOW ISN'T CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PATTERN.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SQUEEZING IN A LOT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND IT WILL BE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO DO THAT NOW.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND NOT ALL LOGS ARE PERFECT RECTANGLE RIGHT, SO THESE WILL PROBABLY AFFECT A LOT OF.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OTHER.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LOTS THAT ARE BIGGER IN SIZE BUT YOU REALLY CAN JAM IT IN BECAUSE THE FRONTAGE TO THE STREET IS NOT 60 FEET NOT 120.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: ALRIGHT, MY KIDNEY OUR SENSE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IS IN THE ARE THREE YOU HAVE 100 FEET OF SO YOU'D NEED 200 FEET OF WIDTH AND THE RF ONE, YOU NEED 300 THAT YOU KNOW THAT'S WHERE, IF YOU WERE TO JUST SPLIT IT DOWN THE MIDDLE, BUT WITH THE FLAG LOT THE 60 FOOT WITH THAT'S HOW THAT ADJUST.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I TOOK A COUPLE THINGS THAT THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ALL OF US THESE THESE THESE LITTLE CHARTS THAT CAROLINA SHOW THEY'RE THEY'RE TERRIFIC AND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MAYBE WE CAN CIRCULATE THESE BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT GET TOGETHER BECAUSE THERE THEY MAKE IT VERY CLEAR.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THE THE BIG TAKEAWAY I GOT FROM BEING BROUGHT UP TO SPEED ON THIS IS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT REALLY IS THE FRONT TO BACK SITUATION AND THAT WE'RE REALLY ONLY ALLOWING IT WHERE THE BACK IS SO SOME SUBSTANTIAL THAT THAT THE DENSITY IS REDUCED, NOW I DON'T KNOW.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THIS QUESTION SO CHRISTIAN I'LL PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT ANSWER IT ANOTHER TIME IF YOU DON'T KNOW.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DO WE KNOW HOW HOW MANY LOTS WOULD WOULD BE LEFT WHERE YOU COULD SUCCESSFULLY DO THIS, AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D SIT WITH THAT CHART AND MAP IT OUT, YOU KNOW THAT, LIKE A TWO WEEK PROCESS OF OR WHERE DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF YOU KNOW HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT, THIS WOULD STILL PERMIT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: UM WE HAVE SOME SENSE OF THAT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU KNOW.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU KNOW.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: PEOPLE APPROACHED ME ALL THE TIME, CAN I SUB DIVIDE MY LOT, THE ANSWER IS ALMOST ALWAYS KNOW AND I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: BECAUSE IT IS SOMEWHAT RARE ANOTHER WAY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS HOW MANY SUBDIVISIONS, IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION EVEN SEE ON A GIVEN YEAR, AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU SO EVEN UNDER EXISTING THAT GIVES YOU THE CONTEXT OF HOW MANY LOTS.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU KNOW THE NUMBER OF LOTS THAT UNDER CURRENT ZONING COULD BE SUBDIVIDED AND PROBABLY WON'T BE SUBDIVIDED UNDER PROPOSED ORDINANCE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IT'S IT'S NOT IT'S A SMALL NUMBER.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S STILL PROTECTING US FROM THE FROM THE MOST EGREGIOUS EXAMPLES, AND YOU KNOW JUST REALLY RUINING NEIGHBORHOODS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND, AND IT MAY JUST AFFECT 20 HOUSES, AT A TIME IT'S 20 RESIDENTS WHO ARE IMPACTED WHEN SOMEBODY JAMS, A HOUSE IN A SMALL ONE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH I WAS LOOKING AT THE OTHER WAY THAT'S GREAT I WAS LOOKING AT THE OTHER WAY, WHICH WAS WHEN IF THIS WOULD ALL GO THROUGH HOW MANY LOTS BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ONLY TWO ZONES, NOW THAT COULD DO THIS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HOW MANY OF THEM COULD ACTUALLY SUCCESSFULLY GO FORTH AND DO IT IS IT 10 100 I DON'T I JUST HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE NUMBER IS.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: NOT 100 IT'S MORE.

MORE LIKE.

[5. Continue the public hearing to create a new local law, Chapter 166 “Steep Slope Protection” regulating development on steep slopes.]

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY HEY I WAS JUST ASKED 111 QUICK QUESTION UM IF YOU WANTED IF YOU'RE A HOMEOWNER ONE OF THE SUB DIVIDE YOUR PROPERTY AND YOU COULDN'T MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS, CAN YOU ASK FOR A VARIANCE ARE YOU JUST NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO SECRETLY FROM THE BOARD OF APPEALS.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND YOU HAVE TO.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: PROVE YOUR CASE, BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT'S IN THE CITY CODE AND ESTABLISHED BY THE STATE IN NEW YORK.

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CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: NEW SUBDIVISIONS AREN'T AREN'T AREN'T AS WELL RECEIVED FOR VARIATION.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: OFTEN, UNLESS THERE'S AN A COMPELLING PLANNING REASON TO DO SO, WHICH SOMETIMES THEIR CANDY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU SO ONE ONE FURTHER QUESTION, THAT IS WHAT IS ARTICLE EIGHT, WHICH IS REFERENCED IN BOTH THE SUB SECTIONS OF 197 36 AND WE'RE WEIRD WE FIND THIS ARTICLE AID.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND WHAT WE'RE BETTER BETTER YEAH RATHER THAN FINDING IT, WHAT DOES IT SAY.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT SOLD ANYTHING THIS WELL CHRISTIAN KNOWS WHERE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IT'S THE IT'S THE NICE COLOR CHART ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IT'S THE TABLE OF DIMENSIONAL REGULATIONS.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: I MADE IT COLOR BECAUSE I THINK IT LOOKS NICE THEN IT'S EASIER TO READ, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALSO COULD BE PASSED AROUND.

YEAH.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IF THERE ARE NO MORE COUNCIL QUESTIONS, THEN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I INVITE THE PUBLIC TO ASK IT'S QUESTIONS WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THE THREE LAWS ONE, AT A TIME, SO PLEASE FOCUS YOUR QUESTIONS FOR NOW ON 196 36.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK UP TO.

KRISTEN WILSON: RAISE YOUR HAND OR PRESS STAR NINE IF YOU'RE ON THE PHONE.

KRISTEN WILSON: MARY HAVE NO ONE THAT HAS RAISED THEIR HAND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, SO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I HAVE LIKED TO WITH THIS HEARING OVER TO OUR NEXT MEETING, AND MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO DO THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: EMOTION MOTION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ALL SECOND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AYE AYE.

ALRIGHT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO NEXT UP IS STEEP SLOPES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND I SUGGEST THAT WE PROCEED THE SAME WAY THAT WE DID.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WITH RESPECT TO FLAG LOTS THAT COUNCIL ASK QUESTIONS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND THEN WE GO TO THE PUBLIC.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I STARTED OFF LAST TIME WITH MY QUESTIONS AND I'LL PUT MY BASKET OF QUESTIONS THAT THE END AND ASK THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: NICK AND CHRISTIAN I START ON PAGE THREE WITH THE DEFINITION OF STEEP SLOPE AND STEEP SLOPE EXTREME AND TUGGING AT THE BACK OF MY MEMORY IS A RECOLLECTION THAT ONE RESIDENT WHO WILL LOOKED AT A LOT OF STEEP SLOPE ORDINANCES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND THAT THAT RESIDENT HAD SHARED WITH ME.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: INITIALLY, THE THOUGHT THAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS START THEIR REGULATION AT 15% SLOPES AND AND THAT 25% MIGHT BE THE EXTREME SOME STARTED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OTHERS HAVE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FIRM ROLES AT 25, AS WE HAVE FOR 35 HOW DID WE GET TO THE 2535 TOO WELL TODAY THAT WE SEE IN STEEP SLOPE AND STEEP SLOPE EXTREME.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: NICK I'LL START AND MAYBE YOU JUMP IN BUT IN TERMS OF THE IN TERMS OF ORDINANCES IN SAY WESTCHESTER THAT PEOPLE MIGHT BE REFERRING TO.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: A SMALLER SLOPE PERCENTAGES, YOU KNOW ZERO YOU KNOW 15% TO 25% OFTEN HAD WITH IT AN ADMINISTRATIVE COMPONENT, MEANING THE PERMIT WASN'T ISSUED BY A DISCRETIONARY BOARD.

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CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: NOT HAVE THAT SORT OF PERMITTING PROCESS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, BUT INSTEAD FOCUS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND USING A DISCRETIONARY BOARD.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: LIKE SIMILAR TO THE WETLANDS PERMIT WELL IMPAIRMENTS AREN'T ISSUED BY THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, THE CITY PLANNER THEY'RE ONLY ISSUED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SO THAT WAS SORT OF THE THRESHOLD AT 25% AND NICK AND TALK ABOUT THOSE WHAT DEGREES, WHICH IS A CONVENTION THESE BREAKDOWNS OF 1525 AND 35%, AT LEAST IN THIS AREA.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE IN A MINUTE, IT WOULD BE A DISCRETIONARY PERMIT, BECAUSE IT WOULD JUST THE VOLUME WOULD BE GREATER AND AN ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL.

NICK EVERETT: I THINK, GOING BACK TO THE CONCEPT OF A WAS A COUNTY SAMPLE.

NICK EVERETT: REGULATION THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN.

NICK EVERETT: MOUNT VERNON AND BED FOR, FOR INSTANCE, AND RYE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN JUST HAVING A BREAKOUT OF 1525 35 JUST DIDN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE FOR OUR COMMUNITY WAS WAY.

NICK EVERETT: OVERKILL IT WAS MUCH SIMPLER TO DO THE TWO WE ALSO TOOK OUT A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS SUCH AS DEFINITION OF KNOW, BUILDING ON BRIDGES, BUT YOU KNOW, AS I POINTED OUT LAST TIME RISE PRETTY WELL BUILT OUT ON THE RIDGES AND WE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE OFF THE FLOODPLAIN.

NICK EVERETT: SO THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT ALSO IN THE MODEL LEGISLATION THAT.

NICK EVERETT: WE CHANGE BECAUSE IF THERE IS A MODEL IT'S THERE FOR EACH COMMUNITY TO DO RIGHT BROOKE HAS 15% AND THEY BASICALLY DON'T EVEN ADMINISTER A LOT OF THE TIME OR IT'S DONE BY STAFF.

NICK EVERETT: SO WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE GRADUATES STEEP SLOPES PLANNING COMMISSION HAS HAD THE PROBLEM WITH YOU KNOW SEVERE STEEP SLOPE ISSUES IN THE PAST, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO AFTER.

NICK EVERETT: 15% JUST DIDN'T SEEM TO MAKE SENSE, SO THIS IS HOW THE COMMITTEE ZEROED IN ON THIS LEGISLATION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE ADMINISTRATIVE DIFFERENCE, EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT NECK THAT YOU INDICATED THAT THAT JURISDICTIONS TO THE ADMINISTRATORS ARE NOT ENFORCING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BUT.

NICK EVERETT: LET ME TRY TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, SO IF A HOUSE HAD A 15% OR SAY A 17% SLOPE.

NICK EVERETT: AND THEN MAYBE ON HALF THEIR PARCEL AND ON ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PARCEL THEY HAD A 30% SLOPE.

NICK EVERETT: THAT WOULD MEAN THAT CHRISTIAN OR THE STAFF AT CITY HALL WOULD BE WORKING OUT THEIR PERMIT FOR THE AREA WITH THE LESS THAN 25%.

NICK EVERETT: AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS THE OTHER PORTION IT BECOMES UNWIELDY AND IT BECOMES MUCH SIMPLER IF IT'S ONE BODY LOOKING AT IT AND THE 25% WAS WHAT WE FELT WAS A GOOD THRESHOLD FOR THE CITY ABROAD.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND ALSO THE ABILITY TO A DISCRETIONARY BOARD TO EXERCISE ITS REASONABLE DISCRETION.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: STAFF DOESN'T DO THAT SO I'M SMALLER SLOPES WHEN YOU TAKE WHAT WOULD THE STANDARDS BE FOR DISTURBANCE ON THAT SLOW, THEY WERE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IT WAS JUST A BIT OF A PERMITTING PROCESS, BUT THERE WAS NO.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO ABILITY FOR A STAFF LEVEL PERSON TO SAY NO, YOU CAN'T GO THERE, IT WAS LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS UNDER THIS LAW.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: WHERE YOU WOULD SAY WE WANT TO DE EMPHASIZE CONSTRUCTION WE THINK YOU CAN LOCATE AND AND OR MINIMIZE DISTURBANCE ON CERTAIN SLOPES.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THAT KIND OF DISCRETION IS WHAT THE PRINCIPLE OF THIS PERMITTING AND THIS LAW IS THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AT A STAFF LEVEL ON 15% SLOPES THAT'S JUST LIKE YOU KNOW THEY HAVE STANDARDS FOR HOW YOU CONSTRUCT OR.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU KNOW, EROSION CONTROL MEASURES THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT IT WASN'T IT WASN'T DISCRETIONARY SO IT BECAME BECAME NOT VERY MEANINGFUL IF WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO WAS TO PROTECT SLOPES AND AVOID DISTURBANCE ON THOSE SLOPES.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THIS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE PLANNING COMMISSION LOOKS AT WETLAND PERMITS AND THEY SORT OF YOUR NEGOTIATE YOUR ARRIVE TO TO A MEANINGFUL.

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CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND AND AND THE NUMBERS, THE 15 TO 25 AND 35 THOSE ARE STANDARDS IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAME UP WITH ONE THING OVER ANOTHER, THOSE ARE STANDARDS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M OKAY I'M NOT SURE THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M NOT SURE THAT I FULLY UNDER STAND THIS POINT YEAH I DO APPRECIATE HAVING A BETTER FEELING OF WHAT A 15% SLOPE IS AND WHAT A 25% SLOPE IS AND A 35% SLOWER THAN I CAN DO THE MATH BUT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: DO WE HAVE ANY.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LET ME INTERRUPT YOU ONE SECOND HERE BECAUSE NICK HAS A GREAT EXAMPLE THAT HE USED TODAY IN EXPLAINING THESE TO BILL AND JOSH, CAN YOU TELL THEM ABOUT THE THE HOUSE THE HEIGHT OF THE THE ROOF, AND WHAT A MAXIMUM AGE FOR AN INTERSTATE.

NICK EVERETT: WELL JOSH.

NICK EVERETT: HERE'S ITS VERTICAL OR HORIZONTAL SO 25% SLOPE IS SOME AN AREA THAT'S GOING UP 25 FEET OVER 100 FEET.

NICK EVERETT: SO IF YOU HAD A LOT IT'S 100 FEET DEEP.

NICK EVERETT: AND IT'S IT'S AT THE STREET WOULD MEAN AT THE BACK OF A LOT TO BE HIGHER THAN THE SECOND FLOOR.

NICK EVERETT: IF IT'S 15 FEET IT'S LIKE THE TOP OF THE.

NICK EVERETT: THE BOUGHT THE FLOOR OF THE SECOND FLOOR AND IF IT'S 35% IT'S UP ON THE ROOF SO THOSE ARE SORT OF VISUALIZING STEEPNESS.

NICK EVERETT: I MEAN WE COULD TRY TO TAKE YOU AROUND AT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE TOWN, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE DID THEY WENT AROUND AND LOOKED AT DIFFERENT SLOPES IN RYE AND THAT'S WHERE THEY CAME TO THE CONCLUSION.

NICK EVERETT: NOT TO FOCUS ON 15 BUT TO FOCUS ON THE 25.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I DO, I I I'D APPRECIATE THAT IT'S IT'S HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND IT IN THE ABSTRACT AND I HATE TO PRESUME ON ON ON YOUR TIME NICK OR ANYONE ELSES BUT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT THAT'S A TOUR I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE OKAY.

NICK EVERETT: WELL BORROW A GOLF SCOPE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I NEXT GO TO PAGE FOUR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND 166 DASH FIVE ANYONE SAYS ANY ACTIVITY WHERE THE TOTAL COMBINED AREA OF STEEP SLOPE AND EXTREME STEEP SLOPE IS LESS THAN 10% OF THE TOTAL LAND AREA OF LOT OF PROPERTY IS OUT AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MY MIC MY COMFORT LEVEL.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TAKES ME TO THINKING THAT GEE I WOULD WANT IT IN AND HAVE THAT WITHIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DISCRETION, BUT NOT HAVE THAT OUT OF THE REGULATION 10% OF A.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LARGE LAW MAY BE A SIGNIFICANT SLOPE 10% OF A SMALL LOT MAY ACTUALLY BE A IMPORTANT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FEATURE IN A COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT'S WHERE I START I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR OTHER THOUGHTS.

NICK EVERETT: WELL, I WASN'T ON THE COMMITTEE REALLY STEEP SLOPES, BUT I THINK THE 10% WAS JUST TRYING TO SET A THRESHOLD AT SOME POINT.

NICK EVERETT: PARTICULARLY FOR SOME OF THE LARGER LOTS I THINK WE COULD, SINCE WE HAVE THE OTHER DEFINITIONS OF THE THOUSAND FEET AND 25 FEET, WE COULD CERTAINLY WORK AROUND THAT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YEAH SO IT'S MULTIPLE ISSUES IN THAT IF YOU HAVE A 900 SQUARE FEET OF STEEP SLOPE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU WOULD NOT BE REGULATED AND THAT'S UNDER THE DEFINITION OF STEEP SLOPE STEEP SLOPE EXTREME.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND SO THERE ARE A VARIETY OF PARAMETERS THAT COME INTO IT, FOR ONE, THE TOTAL AGGREGATE SQUARE FOOTAGE HAS TO BE GREATER THAN 2000 AND THEN YOUR VARIOUS DIMENSIONS.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU COULD HAVE A SMALL AREA SMALL SLIVER A LITTLE ROCK OUTCROPPING SO THAT'S WHY THE FEELING OF THE COMMITTEE WAS THAT'S NOT WE DON'T WANT TO REGULATE THAT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SO THEY THEY DEFINED IT IN THOSE WAYS, SO YOU HAVE TO MEET ACHIEVE CERTAIN WIDTH TURTON TOTAL AREA, AND THEN THERE WAS THIS ADDITIONAL PROVISION OF THE TOP 10 10% OF A LOT.

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CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: UNDERSTOOD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THEN I HAVE QUESTIONS ON.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: PAGE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FIVE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO WE HAVE REVIEW STANDARDS, AND IF YOU CAN JUST HELP US A LITTLE CHRISTIAN OR NICK.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE'RE SAYING THAT ALIGNMENT OF ROADS AND DRIVEWAYS SHALL AND SHALL FOLLOW NATURAL TYPOGRAPHY RE GRADING SHALL COMPLY WITH DESIGN STANDARDS FOR MAXIMUM GRADES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: GIVEN GIVE US SOME INSIGHT, IF YOU WOULD NOT SURE WHAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANGLE OF CUT AND FILLED SLOPES NOT EXCEEDING THE NATURAL ANGLE OF REPOSE ETC MEANS AND THE SO I'M CONCERNED ACTUALLY WITH NUMBER ONE NUMBER FOUR AND NUMBER FIVE ON THAT PAGE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: CONCERNED IN WHAT WAY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IS TO UNDERSTAND.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: UNDERSTAND RIGHT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WELL, THESE ARE.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: VERY MUCH TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLE ROADS AND IN IN PROBABLY THESE WILL NEVER COME INTO PLAY REALISTICALLY IN ANY OF US, BECAUSE WE ARE SO OVERDEVELOPED ALREADY.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT WE FELT THAT IS BECAUSE WE TOOK THESE FROM A MODEL.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SOLUTION PROVIDER THAT WESTCHESTER PROVIDED, AND THEN IT WAS ADOPTED BY THE STATE, AS THEIR MODEL.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE WE THOUGHT WELL, MAYBE WE HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE AND IT WOULDN'T REALLY HARM KEEPING IT THERE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE TRYING TO DO IS THERE'S RESPONSIBLE WAYS, OR BETTER WAYS TO BUILD ON SLOPES.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND LESS RESPONSIBLE CONSTRUCTION PRACTICES AND SO THESE PROVIDES SOME OF THOSE PARAMETERS, WHERE YOU'RE YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE FIGHTING GRADE TO GET A DRIVEWAY UP THE HILL WHERE YOU COULD DO IT MORE NATURALISTICALLY.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THAT THAT'S THAT'S MORE BENEFICIAL TO SITE PRESERVATION AND SLOW PRESERVATION SO THAT'S WHAT THE STANDARDS IN ONE, FOUR AND FIVE, SIX, AS WELL, ARE REALLY TRYING TO GET AT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: QUANTIFIABLE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THINGS THAT YOU CAN REVIEW DURING THAT PROCESS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: DO THEY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: DO THEY TAKE US OUT OF THE 25% 35% REVIEWABLE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CATEGORIES THAT WE.

NICK EVERETT: KNOW THESE ARE THESE ARE ITEMS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALLOWS THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO SAY TO AN APPLICANT.

NICK EVERETT: PLEASE, CHANGE YOUR DESIGN, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE REVIEW STANDARDS HERE SO NUMBER ONE IS PICTURE A HOUSE ON TOP OF THE HILL.

NICK EVERETT: INSTEAD OF RUNNING THE DRIVEWAY STRAIGHT UP THAT HILL, WE WOULD ASK THEM TO RUN THE DRIVEWAY ALONG THE CONTOUR SO THAT IT CAME TO THE TOP IN A FLATTEST WAY POSSIBLE NUMBER FOUR IS TALKING ABOUT THE NATURAL.

NICK EVERETT: CUT AND FILL THE NATURAL ANGLE REPOSE OF SOIL, SO IF YOU PICTURE A PILE OF SAND ITS NATURAL ANGLE RICO'S IS 33%.

NICK EVERETT: IF YOU MIX IT IN WITH CLAY IT'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN THAT, IF YOU HAVE ROCK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY STEEP SO IT DEPENDS ON THE SOIL THERE YOU'RE JUST ASKING.

NICK EVERETT: THE OR YOU'RE GIVING THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE ABILITY TO SAY YOU CAN'T CUT IT SPILL MORE THAN A CERTAIN ANGLE, SO THAT IT WON'T SLUMP IN THE FUTURE IT WON'T GIVE WAY YOU KNOW BIG RAIN EVENT.

NICK EVERETT: NUMBER FIVE IS.

NICK EVERETT: IS REALLY A VERY SORT OF A TECHNICAL THING BUT.

NICK EVERETT: YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO A CERTAIN ANGLE WHEN YOU'RE ALTERING ON PHIL SLOPES UPHILL SLOPE TO WHERE YOU'RE FILLING SO IF YOU WERE RUNNING THAT DRIVEWAY UP TO THAT HOUSE ON TOP OF THE HILL, YOU WOULD BE CUTTING ON ONE SIDE AND FEELING ON THE OTHER, SO IT'S GIVING YOU SOME PARAMETERS ON THAT.

NICK EVERETT: THAT HELPS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IT DOES, THOUGH.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IT SAYS I'M LOOKING AT FOR, FOR INSTANCE FOR SOILS CUT AND FILL SLOPES SHE'LL BE NOT STEEPER THEN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TO HORIZONTAL TO ONE VERTICAL SO THAT'S ONE TO TWO IS THAT A 50% SLOPE THAT WE'RE SAYING YES TO THEIR.

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NICK EVERETT: SITE PLAN AND WHERE IT'S HAPPENING, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS TO SAY IT'S LIKE THE WETLANDS IN IT'S IT'S SAYING HERE'S THE PARAMETERS FOR THE SLOPE.

NICK EVERETT: 25% THE CERTAIN SIZE, YOU HAVE TO COME IN FOR PERMANENT AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEED STANDARDS FROM WHICH TO REVIEW IT IN ORDER TO WORK WITH EACH APPLICANT.

NICK EVERETT: AND THAT'S WHAT THIS SECTION IS REALLY ABOUT REVIEW STANDARDS IT'S JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPLICANT KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, AND THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND THEIR OBJECTIVE THEY'RE NOT SUBJECTIVE THEIR THEIR STANDARDS BY WHICH THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN POINT TO IT, NUMERICALLY.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: WHICH IS HELPFUL WHEN YOU'RE DEFENDING A DECISION, I REMEMBER AT THIS TIME I ASKED MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION SPECIFICALLY AND ALL THE LAWYERS THAT WERE ON THIS, YOU KNOW COMMITTEE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: REVIEW THE STANDARDS AS IF YOU WERE GOING TO DENY APPLICATION REVIEW THE STANDARDS OF A NEIGHBOR WAS WANTED TO CHALLENGE YOUR DECISION.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND THAT'S THE LENS WE ACTUALLY SPENT A FAIR BIT OF TIME TWEAKING THIS SO THAT IT WOULD BE MORE CLEAR IN THOSE THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOU KNOW WHETHER HOW GOOD OR.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: HOW STRONG YOUR YOUR LAW IS AND HOW DEFENSIBLE IT IS IF IT CAN WITHSTAND A CHALLENGE BY A BY A NEIGHBOR OR OR AN APPLICANT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO NICK IF HE WOULD HELP ME WITH NUMBER FIVE JUST EXPLAIN THE TOE OF A FIELD SLOW SHALL NOT BE LOCATED WITHIN 12 FEET HORIZONTALLY, OF THE TOP OF AN EXISTING OR PROPOSED CUTS SLOPE SO WE'VE GOT TO FILL SLOPE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND A CUT SLOPE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HOW CLOSE THEY CAN BE I.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HELP HELP AT LEAST ME UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.

NICK EVERETT: OKAY WELL.

NICK EVERETT: AGAIN PICTURE OF ROAD DRIVING ALONG THE SLOPE SO ON ONE SIDE THERE'S SOME CUT.

NICK EVERETT: ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE JOOCE SOME FILL IN ORDER TO CREATE FLAT PLATFORM FOR THE ROAD.

NICK EVERETT: SO THE PHIL IS WHERE YOU HAVE TO PUT MATERIAL AND THEN BLEND THAT INTO THE NATURAL SLOPE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS SAY WHEN YOU HAVE THAT SITUATION WHERE THERE'S A PHIL SLOPE.

NICK EVERETT: YOU WANT TO BE SURE THAT IT'S A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM A NATURAL SLOPE OR CUTS LOOK AGAIN YOU'RE TRYING TO BE SURE THAT YOU DON'T YOU PREVENT FAILURES OF EITHER THE SLOPES, AND THAT THERE'S WAYS TO MITIGATE ANY DANGER.

NICK EVERETT: FROM WATER OR SLUMPING OR EVEN FAILURE IN THE FUTURE SO AGAIN THESE BECOME SOMEWHAT TECHNICAL RELATIVE TO THE SEPARATION FOR THOSE TYPES OF SLOPES.

NICK EVERETT: AND IT'S A REVIEW STANDARD.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND AGAIN, MOST OF THESE EXAMPLES WOULD APPEAR ON A DRIVE WHERE OR ROAD THEY'RE NOT FOR STRUCTURE PER SE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: OR, THEY WOULD BE FOR THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, I MEAN PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST BUILDING HOUSES RIGHT THERE LEVELING PROPERTY, YOU KNOW TO EVEN SOFT GRADES ON PROPERTY.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: OR UNDESIRABLE IN THE MARKET, YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO LEVEL YARD TO PLAY THERE'S ALL KINDS OF ACTIVITIES.

NICK EVERETT: YEAH THE MAIN.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: THING RIGHT.

NICK EVERETT: RIGHT SO USING A CHRISTIANS EXAMPLE SO SO YOU HAD A SUBDIVISION AND SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO TERRORISTS AND THERE WAS AN EXISTING SLOPE.

NICK EVERETT: THEY WOULD HAVE TO STOP THAT TERRACING IF THERE WAS A FILL ISSUE 12 FEET BEFORE THE NATURAL SLOPE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: NEXT, GO TO SEVEN SAME.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN WE JUST WAIT ON.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NICK CAN YOU JUST SAY THAT AGAIN BECAUSE I WAS, I WAS THINKING, THE TOTAL OPPOSITE, SO YOU SAID WHAT YOU SAID, AND SO, YOU SAID THAT IF YOU'RE A TERRORIST THING.

NICK EVERETT: OKAY, SO SOMEBODY TERRACING.

NICK EVERETT: YEAH GETTING A FLAT LEVEL AND THEY.

NICK EVERETT: THEY DO THAT BY FILLING SO NOW THERE'S A LITTLE PHIL SLOPE ON THE SIDE NOW NATURALLY THERE'S A ANOTHER SLOPE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NICK EVERETT: THAT PHIL SLOPE WOULD HAVE TO STOP AT LEAST 12 FEET FROM THE NATURAL SLOPE, WHETHER IT WAS A CUT SLOPE UPPER CUTS UP THAT WAY.

OKAY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MOVING TO THE END OF SEVEN, THERE IS A NEVERTHELESS STATEMENT AND IT'S NEVERTHELESS A STRUCTURE MAY BE BUILT ON A SLOPE OR AT THE TOE OF A SLOPE IF IT'S DESIGNED TO RETAIN THE SLOPE AND TO WITHSTAND THE FORCES EXERTED ON IT BY THE RETAIN SLOW AND.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HOPEFUL THAT THIS IS INTENDED TO BE SET WITHIN THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WITHIN THE OVERALL DECISION WILL VIEW THAT'S IN THE OF THIS SECTION THAT IS THIS READS IS PERMISSIVE AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE INTENDING TO SAY THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANY STRUCTURE MAY BE BUILT ON A SLOPE OR THAT OR TO HAVE A SLOPE, ETC.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO LONG AS IT'S DESIGNED TO RETAIN THE SLOPE AND TO WITHSTAND THE FORCES EXERTED ON IT, IT, AND THIS MAY JUST BE A DRAFTING THING AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M HAPPY TO LOOK BACK AT IT, BUT I THINK THE INTENT NICK TO BACKTRACK IS THIS IS JUST ONE FACTOR FOR THE INTENDED TO BE ONE FACTOR FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK AT, AS IT MAKES ITS DECISION UNDER THE APPLAUSE THAT'S FOLLOWING.

NICK EVERETT: CORRECT.

NICK EVERETT: SOMETIMES IN OUR DENSER NEIGHBORHOODS.

NICK EVERETT: WE HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE.

NICK EVERETT: I HAVE SOME MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE A FOUNDATION THAT WAS ALSO A RETAINING WALL, IT WAS RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF A SLOPE, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BUILT.

NICK EVERETT: TO WITHSTAND THE FORCES OF THAT.

NICK EVERETT: MEANS IT'S A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ONE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THERE'S SOME HOUSES THAT WERE RECENTLY BUILT ON CEDAR PLACE THAT ARE SOMEWHAT THERE'S A SEPARATE WALL BUT IT'S THERE IN ORDER TO RETAIN A SLOPE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I JUMPED TO BE AND LOOKING AT CLUBS FIVE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND THEN I'M LOOKING AT CLAUSE SIX.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IN BOTH THOSE CASES, THERE SEEMS TO BE A CONCEPT OF NECESSITY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FOR MANDATORY NESS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IT I'M NOT SURE HOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN TREAT THIS OR WHAT ACTUALLY IS INTENDED, SO THE REGULATED ACTIVITY CANNOT PRACTICALLY BE RELOCATED OR MODIFIED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO AS TO NOT DISTURB.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OR THE DISTURBANCES NECESSARY AND WHAT WOULD THOSE SORTS OF CASES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO I HAVE A PROPERTY AND I IN I DON'T HAVE A GARAGE AND I INSIST, I NEED A GARAGE AND THE ONLY PLACE ON THE PROPERTY TO PUT MY GARAGE IS ON THE STEEP SLOPE, AND MY PROPOSED REGULATED ACTIVITY CANNOT PRACTICALLY BE RELOCATED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LET'S SAY IT CAN'T BE MODIFIED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M GONNA PLEAD NECESSITY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I NEED MY GARAGE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I BOUGHT I BOUGHT A HOUSE WITHOUT A GARAGE AND I NEED A GARAGE AND THE ONLY PLACE, I CAN PUT IT IS ON MY STEEP SLOPE HOW DOES THAT PLAY OUT UNDER FIVE OR SIX.

NICK EVERETT: BUT MAY NOT BE THAT THE GARAGE IS ON THE STEEP SLOPE, AND MAYBE THE ACCESS TO THE GARAGE HAS TO TRAVERSE A STEEP SLOPE ME.

NICK EVERETT: I THINK AGAIN, THIS IS TRYING TO BE SET UP AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWS WORKS WITH EACH APPLICANT AND GOES THROUGH THE DIFFERENT REVIEW STANDARDS AND THEN DECISION MAKING PROCESS, AND THIS IS TRYING TO OUTLINE THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS IT'S NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT IT'S AN ABSOLUTE.

NICK EVERETT: NO TO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY LET'S WORK WITH YOU LET'S MAKE THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE LANDSCAPE AND THE TOPOGRAPHY AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: ANOTHER UNAVOIDABLE EXAMPLE, MIGHT BE LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A PROPERTY PRE EXISTING PROPERTY AND TO GET TO THE FROM THE STREET TO ANYWHERE ON THE PROPERTY, YOU HAVE TO CROSS A 35% SLOPE, YOU CANNOT AVOID IT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IN THOSE INSTANCES YOU'D BE LOOKING TO MINIMIZE IT TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICAL.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WELL.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'LL.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'LL SPEND SOME TIME THINKING ABOUT IT, AND MAYBE TRYING TO WORDSMITH IT, BUT I I I TURN THE PAGE CAN STILL CONCERNED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I I GO TO PAGE EIGHT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND JUST A CONCERN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M LOOKING AT THE AND HE WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE LIMITS OF THE CONTOURS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL SEE AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I AM IT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE MUST BE A WAY, AND MAYBE THERE IS ELSEWHERE WHERE MAYBE THE PLANNING COMMISSION SEATED ON SITE VISITS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE AS YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND NICK EVERETT: WELL, WE WENT OVER THIS A LOT AND THAT COMES UP WHERE NEIGHBORS DON'T ALLOW YOU ON THEIR PROPERTY PERIOD.

NICK EVERETT: THEY DON'T ALLOW THE SURVEYOR TO GO TO THE PROPERTY WE DO DO SITE VISITS WE CAN ALWAYS SEE WHAT THE TOPOGRAPHY LIKE ON THE NEIGHBORS THAT'S REALLY NEVER A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAS TO ALLOW US ON THERE.

NICK EVERETT: SO THIS WAS KIND OF A TECHNICAL THING WE HAD ADD IN BECAUSE THERE ARE THE SITUATIONS THAT COME UP BEFORE WE'RE NEIGHBORS JUST SAY NO, YOU CAN'T COME ON MY PROPERTY.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THERE ARE FOR SLOPE SPECIFICALLY OTHER RESOURCES THAT YOU CAN USE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT SURVEY ACCURATE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT LET LEFT LAST QUESTION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THIS IS IN THIS MAY BE FOR KRISTEN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: PAGE 13 THERE'S A REFERENCE TO CIVIL DAMAGES IF SOMEONE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: VIOLATES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND I JUST HAD TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING HOW WE WOULD CALCULATE CIVIL DAMAGES IF SOMEONE HAS REMOVED TOO STEEP SLOPE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HOW WOULD WE VALUE THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND IS THIS AN INSTANCE WHERE WE ACTUALLY NEED SOME SORT OF LIQUIDATED DAMAGES OR PENALTY TABLE, BECAUSE IN FACT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CALCULATE DAMAGES IN A WAY THAT WOULD SATISFY A COURT.

KRISTEN WILSON: OH, MR MAYOR THERE'S A A LIMIT TO WHAT WE CAN FIND.

KRISTEN WILSON: UNDER ARE UNDER STATE LAW AND CITY COURT FOR.

KRISTEN WILSON: VARIOUS VIOLATIONS, SO I THINK IN TERMS OF WHAT WE GENERALLY TRY AND DO IF A VIOLATION IS FOUND TO HAVE OCCURRED, AND SOMEONE A PROPERTY OWNER DOES END UP IN COURT, WE DO TRY AND SEEK COMPLIANCE OR MITIGATION OR REMEDIATION IN SOME FASHION.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO THAT IS CERTAINLY THE THE CITY THAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE THE CITY'S FIRST APPROACH AND THEN, IF THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF CIVIL PENALTY ATTACHED, WE WOULD DO THAT THAT GENERALLY WE TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW MANY DAYS THE VIOLATION HAS EXISTED.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND HOW QUICKLY THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TRIED TO COMPLY WITH OUR CODE OR REMEDIATING THE THE ISSUE SO IF THEY'VE EVISCERATED US A SLOPE THERE'S CERTAINLY.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT THAT WOULD BE TRICKIER IT'S OFTENTIMES WITH WESTLANDS YOU TRY AND ASK THEM TO REMOVE THE FILL THAT THEY PUT IN THE WETLAND.

KRISTEN WILSON: I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN AS EASILY ASK SOMEONE TO REBUILD A SLOPE THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY DESTROYED, BUT WE WOULD WE ARE LIMITED IN TERMS OF THE MONETARY PENALTIES, WE CAN ASSESS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, AND I THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR PATIENCE WITH MY QUESTIONS NICK AND CHRISTIAN, MOST OF ALL.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IF THERE ARE NO COUNCIL QUESTIONS IN ADDITION FAN I'D LIKE TO OPEN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE STEEP SLOW PROVISION UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

KRISTEN WILSON: YEAH SOMEONE FROM THE GRANGER HAPPENED HOUSEHOLD.

[6. Continue the public hearing to create a new local law amending Chapter 53 “Architectural Review” of the Code of the City of Rye to amend authority and scope considered by the Architectural Review Board in reviewing applications.]

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KRISTEN WILSON: THESE ARE.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOUR ADDRESS, FOR THE RECORD.

KGRAINGERHOBBINS@GMAIL.COM: YOUR 75 OAKLAND BEACH AVENUE KATHY GRANGER HEAVENS.

KGRAINGERHOBBINS@GMAIL.COM: THANK YOU, THANK YOU HELLO EVERYBODY, AND THANK YOU ALL, THIS IS ACTUALLY VERY INTERESTING AND I'M KIND OF WITH JOSH ON SOMETHING AS FAR AS IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND THE SLOPES, AND THINGS IF I DON'T REALLY KNOW IT THAT'S NOT MY KNOWLEDGE.

KGRAINGERHOBBINS@GMAIL.COM: WHAT I'M WONDERING IS IF, AS THINGS MOVE ON, IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE.

KGRAINGERHOBBINS@GMAIL.COM: 3D DRAWINGS, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, FOR PEOPLE TO SEE OR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PUT UP THAT COULD BE DONE, AND THEN DRAW ON THE SCREEN, OR IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE MAYBE CERTAIN ADDRESSES WHERE IT SHOWS OKAY THIS LOT IS.

KGRAINGERHOBBINS@GMAIL.COM: THIS LOT IS 20 THIS LOT IS 25 SO WE COULD DRIVE BY THESE LOTS AND SEE WHAT THE SLOPES ARE.

KGRAINGERHOBBINS@GMAIL.COM: BECAUSE IT'S VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND IT I'M JUST WONDERING IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE DONE.

NICK EVERETT: WELL, I THINK ONE THING YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT IS A SLOPE A LOT ISN'T A STANDARD SLOPE FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER.

NICK EVERETT: AND ANY NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY MIGHT HAVE A SLOPE A 10% AND IT MIGHT GO TO 25% AND IT MIGHT BE GO TO 18 AND IT MIGHT GO TO 30 SO IT'D BE EASIER, JUST TO PICK SPECIFIC SPOTS SPECIFIC PLACES AND SAY THAT X AND USUALLY IT'S BETTER IF THEY'RE ROADS OR WALLS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO NICK ARE YOU ARE YOU SAYING THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE COULDN'T.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: PUT PUT TOGETHER SOME ADDRESS EXAMPLES.

NICK EVERETT: WE CAN PUT TOGETHER SOME EXAMPLES I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT THIS PERSON'S PROPERTIES X PERCENT BECAUSE JUST MOST PIECES OF LAND AREN'T LIKE THAT YOU'D HAVE TO SAY THIS HILL ON SUCH AND SUCH A STREET OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.

NICK EVERETT: IT'D BE EASIER TO DO IT ACTUALLY WITH STREETS THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: I THINK WE DID SOME OF THIS IN THE PAST, WE CAN PUT SOME THINGS TOGETHER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT WOULD BE GREAT, THANK YOU FOR THE SUGGESTION KATHY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OTHER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: PUBLIC COMMENTS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FAN, I WOULD LIKE A TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO AGAIN ROLE IS OVER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TO THE NEXT MEETING.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'LL MAKE THE MOTION I THINK I'M JOSH NATHAN SECOND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO THAT TAKES US TO THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CREATE A NEW LOCAL LAW.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AMENDING CHAPTER 53 ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF RYE, TO AMEND AUTHORITY AND SCOPE CONSIDERED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AND REVIEWING APPLICATIONS AND I'D LIKE TO HANDLE THIS THE SAME WAY AND INVITE COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH QUESTIONS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TO PLEASE RAISE THEM AGAIN I HAVE AT LEAST ONE BUT I'LL SAVE IT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT WHAT'S IN THE AGENDA PACKET DOES LOOK LIKE THE RED LINE VERSION SO CHRISTIAN, THANK YOU FOR THAT, I MEAN IT'S NOT RED LINE IT'S BOLD IT OR IT'S IT'S OBVIOUS WHAT THE CHANGES ARE SO THOSE FOLLOWING ON AT HOME.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN SEE THIS I'M JOSH GO AHEAD, OH OH HOLD ON FOR A SECOND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WELL I'M INVITING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OTHERS, ON THE COUNCIL TO PITCH THEIR QUESTIONS IN BEFORE MINE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T WANT TO JUST SAY STILL HAVE THE CONCERN I RAISED LAST TIME SO IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION IS JUST SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER, WHICH IS IN HE GO BACK UP.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MY LORD OH 53 DASH FIVE BE NO SECTION SEE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NOPE SECTION D.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: GOD BLESS AMERICA IS THIS HOW MANY ARE THERE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: D SIX HE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU SEE, WHERE THAT IS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE APPROVAL WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TEMPORARY FACILITIES LIKE BRING SOME THINGS LIKE THAT THAT THEY'RE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SEEING SEASONAL RECREATIONAL FACILITIES FACILITIES WILL REQUIRE APPROVALS EACH OCCASION, OR EACH SEASON OR RECORD ARE INSTALLED, I STILL WANTED TO PUT FORTH THE CONSIDERATION THAT IT'S THE EXACT SAME THING.

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JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, DO AN INSPECTION THAT WE CONSIDER WHAT WE DID WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHICH IS ALLOWING YOU KNOW MULTI YEAR SORT OF APPROVAL, KNOWING THAT IT COULD BE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AS WE DID WITH THE CHAMBER FOR THE SIDEWALKS EATING THAT IT COULD BE REVOKED IF THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF BUT BUT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT I THINK THAT THE WAY THEY RESPONDED TO THAT IS LET'S SAY YOU HAVE AN ICE SKATING RINK.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND YOUR KIDS ARE FIVE AND THEN YOU KNOW IT'S GREAT BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE GROWING EVERY YEAR RIGHT AND WHEN THEY WERE SIX THAT WOULD BE HOME AND IN BED BY SEVEN, BUT NOW THERE'S 1315 YOU KNOW.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THEY'RE UNTIL 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, MAKING NOISE THAT ARE SO I THINK IT'LL ALLOW THE NEIGHBORS TO COME AND SAY, WELL, HOW IS THIS BEING USED AND.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT IS SOME OF THE PROVISIONS THAT WE COULD PUT IN PLACE SO THAT THESE THESE NOT GOING TO IMPACT MY PRIVACY OR NOISE LEVELS OR YOU KNOW OTHER THINGS SO.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT'S I GUESS WHY I WOULD SAY, IF THERE WERE COMPLAINTS OR SOMETHING GET, JUST AS WE INSTANCE, MAYBE IT'S THE WRONG COMP BUT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IF THERE WERE COMPLAINTS OR NON COMPLIANCE OR FACTORS HAD CHANGED IT COULD BE REVOKED AND REVIEWED AND THEY COULD BE FORCED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN I JUST.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BY THE POLICE, THERE ARE HAD IT HAS THE YOU KNOW, LIKE UNLESS YOU WERE PREGNANT YOU DON'T GO BACK TO THE VAR YOU DON'T GO BACK.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO, BUT IF YOU ARE IF THERE ARE COMPLAINTS THAT YOU KNOW SOMETHING THEY'RE BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK AND THE TABLES AREN'T WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, OR WHATEVER THEY THAT GETS PHONED IN AND WE GO CHECK IT OUT RIGHT I.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DON'T KNOW I JUST WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS BALANCE WITH THE FACT THAT, YES, WE DO WANT TO HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT HERE AND CIRCUMSTANCES DO CHANGE, BUT YOU KNOW FROM FIVE OR SIX TO 13 OR 14 MAYBE YEAH.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT FROM FIVE TO 671 EXAMPLE, IT COULD BE THAT YOU KNOW THE ICE CAN SEE YOU KNOW THE.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ICD NINE AND THEY DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ICE TIME AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE TEAM HE'S PRACTICING IN YOUR BACKYARD AND ALL THE NEIGHBORS ARE DISTURBED, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW THAT WAS ONE EXAMPLE, BUT YOU KNOW CIRCUMSTANCES CAN CHANGE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT IT'S JUST IT'S.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I'M JUST BRINGING UP THE NEED TO LIKE BALANCE THAT RIGHT, WHICH IS A REALLY ONEROUS PROCESS ON HOMEOWNERS YOU'RE JUST.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S RINSE AND REPEAT, FOR ME, EVERY YEAR RIGHT AND I DO AND AND GIVING SOME OUTLET, BUT I JUST DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE LIKE THIS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: EVERY YEAR YOU'RE GOING AND GETTING THE SAME PERMIT AND PAYING THE SAME FEES AND DOING ALL OF THIS FOR SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY RINSE AND REPEAT, SO I I I'M NOT SUGGESTING ANYTHING SPECIFIC RIGHT NOW I'M JUST RAISING IT AS A CONCERN, AND SINCE WE HAVE SEEN SIMILAR.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND NOW YOU KNOW, AN ANALOGOUS EXAMPLE COME UP WHERE LIKE CAN YOU GIVE ME TWO YEARS ON THIS THREE YEARS ON THIS, I FELT LIKE THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT, TOO, SO I'M NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING I'M JUST RAISING IT AS A POINT OF CONCERN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: A JOSH NATHAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SORRY, TO JULIE'S POINT UM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR ANYTHING, IN PARTICULAR, BUT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN OTHER IN OTHER SITUATIONS I'VE SEEN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SORT OF YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THREE TIMES ITS ANNUAL AND THEN AFTER THAT IT IT IT EXPANDS, SO YOU KNOW YOU KIND OF GET.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: A COUPLE OF TRIAL RUNS AND THEN IT AND THEN IT LENGTHENS AND THAT MIGHT THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, WHERE YOU KNOW, THE FIRST YEAR.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU HAVE TO REAPPLY THE SECOND YEAR, YOU HAVE TO REAPPLY AND THEN AFTER THAT MAYBE IT'S A THREE YEAR TERM OR FIVE YEAR TERM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S USEFUL HERE I'VE SEEN THAT IN OTHER CONTEXTS IN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, BUT JUST THE CONCEPT WELL.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I LIKE MERGING THAT WITH JULIE'S COMPARISON TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PERMITS WHERE IT THE PERMIT IS ISSUED, BUT IT'S SUBJECT TO TO TO COMMENT IN THE COMMENT IS IS REVIEWED IS REVIEWABLE BUT IF HE ISSUING AUTHORITY.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: AND THEY THINK THAT WHAT THAT CHANGE OCCURRED AFTER FEEDBACK FROM RESTAURANT TOURS WHO HAD THE OUTDOOR SEATING OR WAS IT THE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: LIKE YOU'RE SAYING WHAT'S THAT DOOR THING CALLED THE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FIRST DAY.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: THAT YOU THINK YOU ARE BUT ANYWAY YEAH I GUESS YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST BE CURIOUS AND I GUESS WITH RESPECT TO THE RINKS MY QUESTION IS UM YOU KNOW, IS THIS LIKE YOU PUT A HOST IN YOUR BACKYARD AND SOME WOOD PANELS, OR IS THIS WHEN YOU'VE GOT LIKE THE COOLING.

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CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: WE REGULATE THESE THINGS ARE GOING WITH THIS PROBABLY NEED SOME WORK BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY JUMPING INTO TWO AREAS, ONE AREA THAT THIS IS THE FOCUS OF THIS LAW IS THE REVIEW STANDARDS FOR THE BA ARE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND EVERYTHING COULD BE THE SAME EXCEPT A YEAR LATER, THE NEIGHBOR IS DIFFERENT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND HOW DO YOU APPLY THOSE STANDARDS NEW NEIGHBOR DOESN'T DOESN'T LIKE IT OR WHATEVER IT IS HOCKEY RINKS ARE DEEMED TO BE PERMITTED IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES, BECAUSE OF THE ZONING CODE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU TO REQUIRE THESE THINGS TO COME BACK EVERY YEAR IS PROBABLY MECHANICALLY NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO IN THIS SECTION OF LAW YOU'RE GOING TO WORK IN OTHER AREAS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I LIKE JOSH NATHAN'S THOUGHT, MAYBE YOU HAVE LIKE YOUR FIRST YEAR GONNA HAVE GOOD BEHAVIOR AND COME BACK AS LONG AS AND THEN SECOND YEAR YOU GET IT FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD OF TIME, BUT STILL SUBJECT TO REVIEW IT'S JUST I THINK WE CAN WORK OUT SOMETHING IN THERE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: WELL, CHRISTIAN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THIS SHOULDN'T EVEN BE IN THIS PART OF THE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: CODE I'M SAYING YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL WHERE SOMEBODY HAS HAD SOMETHING FOR SO MANY YEARS, AND THE DECISIONS TO TURN IT DOWN IN YEAR THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE CAN BE TRICKY IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT THE BA ARE THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW HAS TO DO.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YOU KNOW.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: I'M SPEAKING WITH KNOWING HOW THESE RINGS ARE BECOMING MORE COMMONPLACE AND WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF NEIGHBORS AND EVERYTHING I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE ESPECIALLY THE BOARD THAT'S REVIEWING THIS.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: RIGHT BECAUSE IT'S ALSO COVERING POOLS.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IT CURRENTLY DOES, YES, YOU HAVE A WHOLE SEPARATE SECTION FOR POOLS AND TENNIS COURTS AND SPORT COURTS AND.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: TRYING TO THINK OF SOME OF THE OTHER RECREATIONAL AMENITIES, BUT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE WILL BE A PERMANENT THING I MEAN I'M MORE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE A NON PERMANENT THING THAT YOU'RE PUTTING UP ON A SEASONAL.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BASIS AND KRISHNA YOUR POINT IS THAT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME LIKE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE VAR IS SUPPOSED TO SAY IS THIS OKAY, I GUESS, IN THE CONTEXT OF NEIGHBOR INPUT TO, BUT I JUST IF YOU HAVE BEEN PLAYING BY THE RULES AND DOING IT, YOU KNOW AND YOU'RE ON RINSE AND REPEAT CYCLE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU DON'T GET TO DO IT ANYMORE, AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OTHER THAN PERHAPS NEIGHBOR SENTIMENT LIKE THAT'S HARD TO SWALLOW TO IT'S LIKE WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR FOUR YEARS I'VE GOTTEN APPROVAL, EVERY YEAR, WHAT DO YOU MEAN NOW BECAUSE OF YOU KNOW.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SOMEBODY WHO HATES HOCKEY IS MOVED IN NEXT DOOR.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: NO, BUT NO, NO RIGHT OR WRONG.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WAY WITH A BABY THAT CAN'T SLEEP, OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER I.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW THERE'S SO.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT THAT'S SUBJECT TO SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU KNOW THERE'S NOISE ORDINANCES THERE'S YOU KNOW OTHER THINGS THAT THAT PROTECT THAT SO I JUST.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW I GET I GET NERVOUS WHEN WE STARTED SAYING OKAY SOMEBODY ELSE YOU KNOW MOVES IN WHO'S CRANKIER AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THINGS YOU DID FOR RECREATION, ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY THAT WASN'T SUPER HIGHLY DISRUPTIVE OTHERWISE YOU'VE BEEN VIOLATING NOISE ORDINANCES AND.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE IMPLEMENTED IF IT WAS ATROCIOUS BECAUSE BE I WOULDN'T HAVE LET YOU LIKE, HE JUST IT STARTS TO GET PRETTY SUBJECTIVE AND I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PEOPLE CAN ENJOY THEIR PROPERTY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW NOT INFRINGE TERRIBLY ON ANYBODY ELSE BUT THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE A MOVING GOALPOST.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SHOULD WE, BUT LET'S LET'S HOLD THE THOUGHT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANY OTHER A BILL.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS AND.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NICK AND CAROLYN AND THANKS AGAIN FOR MEETING WITH JOSH AND I TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THIS WAS VERY HELPFUL I'M GOING TO SEND SOME OF MY COMMENTS JUST BY EMAIL TO SAVE TIME HERE AND A LOT OF MERGES SMALL BUT TWO THINGS THAT ARE THREE THINGS I JUST WANTED TO MENTION.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON 53.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RE SEE THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, CONSISTENT WITH OTHER TYPES OF.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AND WOULD IT BE GOOD TO HAVE SORT OF CONSISTENT STANDARD FOR.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW IF IT'S STEEP SLOPE, OR IF IT'S.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW OTHER TYPES OF VARIANCES YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE HAVE THE SAME KIND OF NOTICE REQUIREMENT AS VAR SO THAT WOULD BE ONE THING.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LANGUAGE AROUND.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE OTHER THING I THINK, IS THAT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

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WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE REASON FOR THESE CHANGES IS IS A RECOGNITION THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE STRENGTHENED TO MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, WHICH IS YOU KNOW.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PRETTY BIG SWITCH AND SO IS THAT THE STANDARD, YOU KNOW THAT WE WANT, OR IS IT SOMETHING LESS THAN THAT CLEAR AND CONVINCING I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, I DO THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND YOU KNOW I YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, TO HEAR ANYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS ON THAT EITHER YOU KNOW EITHER IN THIS MEETING OR OR YOU KNOW BEFORE WE WE VOTE ON THIS LAW.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BECAUSE I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE WHERE I AM ON THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WOULD YOU IN IN RUSS IN RESPONSE, THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THEIR STAND THERE'S A STANDARD FOR THE BARS DECISION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WHICH IS EMBEDDED IN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SORRY I'M TRYING TO GET THE SECTION NUMBER IN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FIVE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND ITS SUB.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TWO OR SUB ONE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SEE IT SEE ONE AND TWO AND THAT'S FOR THE BARS DECISION THAT'S GONE TO MORE LIKELY THAN NOT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BUT THE STANDARD OF REVIEW TO BE APPLIED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BY THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS WHICH ACTS AS THE APPELLATE BODY FOR THESE DECISIONS IS OUT IN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ARBITRARY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CAPRICIOUS AND OR UNSUPPORTED BY SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD, AND I CAN BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE MORE LIKELY THAN NOT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IN THE BARS WHEN THE BAR IS MAKING ITS DECISIONS, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE BOARD OF APPEALS STANDARD OF REVIEW WHEN THEY'RE REVIEWING THE BAR IS DECISION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TO BE SUPPORTED BY THE PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE THAT'S FAR FROM BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT IT'S JUST SAYING THAT THE WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE IS ON THE SIDE OF THE BAR AND I TAKE THAT POSITION, KNOWING THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE BAR HAS TOUGH JOB, A LOT OF IT A LOT OF WHAT THE BAR DOES CAN BE VIEWED AS HAVING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: A GREAT DEAL OF SUBJECTIVITY TO IT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I KNOW PEOPLE, NOT WITH RESPECT TO OUR PRESIDENT, LIKE CONSTITUTED BAR, BUT WITH EARLIER MANIFESTATIONS OF THE BAR PEOPLE WHO FELT THAT THEY WERE BEING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HELD UP ESSENTIALLY ON MATTERS OF INDIVIDUAL TASTE, WHICH I KNOW THE LANGUAGE ELSEWHERE IN HERE FORBIDS IN IN CERTAIN CONTEXTS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO I WOULD TIGHTEN THE APPELLATE STANDARD OF REVIEW AND I COULD STAY WITH MORE LIKELY THAN NOT WITHIN THE BARS OWN JUDGMENTAL PROCESS THAT'S JUST ME AND AND IN RESPONSE BILL TO TO YOUR INVITATION TO EXPRESS MYSELF.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YES, I NOW BUT I'M JUST.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING THERE IS MAKING THEM, MAKING IT A HIGHER STANDARD OF REVIEW NOT LESSER IN THAT I THINK THE WAY I WOULD READ THIS AS THE STANDARD REVIEW IS THAT THAT AS LONG AS THERE'S EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD THAT SHOWS THAT THE VAR.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MADE MADE A.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: REASONABLE RATIONAL DECISION THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE IT, WHEREAS BOY YOU'RE I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I MIGHT BE WRONG ABOUT THIS, BUT.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IS WE GET THIS KIND OF SECOND GUESS THE THE THE VAR ON THIS AND WE COULD CHANGE IT OURSELVES, WHEREAS I THINK THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, IT IS MAKES IT HARDER TO SECOND GUESS, TO BE A.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE DON'T GET TO SECOND GUESS, THIS GOES TO THE BOARD OF THE FIELDS.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S RIGHT NO BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'M SAYING IT ALLOWS THE BOARD OF APPEALS TO SECOND GUESS, AS OPPOSED TO SAY, THIS WAS A REASONABLE.

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WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO, SO THE WAY I'M READING IT, THOUGH, IS RIGHT NOW THE BURDEN OF PROOF IN ORDER FOR THE BR TO MEAN FOR THE BOARD OF APPEALS TO OVERTURN ANYTHING LIKE SO.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN PRACTICAL TERMS IS THAT THE BAR WILL DECLINE SOMETHING AND SAY NO, WE DON'T THINK THIS FITS WITH THIS IS INCONSISTENT WITH YOU KNOW.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE SURROUNDINGS, OR WHATEVER, AND THEN IT GOES TO THE BOARD OF APPEALS AND THE APPEAL SAYS WELL THE STANDARD, I HAVE TO MEET IN ORDER TO TO UPHOLD THE BAR IS THAT IT HAS TO BE THAT THEY HAVE HAD TO ASSERT THEIR ASSERTION THE UNREASONABLE DOUBT IT'S TOO HIGH, OF A THRESHOLD, SO THEY INVARIABLY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BAR DECISIONS GET OVERTURNED AT THE BOARD OF APPEALS, SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SAY HEY NO THEY ACTED WITHIN THEIR BOUNDS RIGHT SO THERE'S THEY'RE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THEY'RE FINDING CAN STAND RIGHT NOW WHAT'S COMING OUT OF BAR IS GOING TO OVERTURN A BOARD OF APPEALS, BECAUSE THE BURDEN OF.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PROOF IS WAY TOO HIGH AND HAVE ALMOST NO ONE CAN MEET IT BECAUSE IT'S BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT RIGHT SO WE'RE TRYING TO LOWER THAT BAR A LITTLE BIT SO WHEN THE BAR WHEN BOARD OF APPEALS COMES BACK.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THEY'RE NOT SAYING THEY DID THIS BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT DID WAS THEY'RE FINDING MORE LIKELY THAN NOT TO HAVE WHATEVER YES FINE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: KRISTEN I LOVE THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CHRIS KRISTEN CAN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CAN YOU CAN YOU HELP US HERE, THAT IS, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTOOD THAT THE BOARD OF APPEALS WAS ON A BEYOND THE REASONABLE DOUBT BASIS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BUT IF I LOOK THROUGH THIS MARK DRAFT WHERE I SEE THE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT STANDARD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OR WHERE WHERE IT HAS BEEN TORN AWAY IS IN THE BARS OWN DECISION MAKING PROCESS, NOT IN THE BOARD OF APPEALS PROCESS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HAVE I GOT THAT RIGHT THAT THE BOARD OF APPEALS PREVIOUSLY WAS ACTUALLY ON THE ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS STANDARD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT WE'RE NOW SEEING IN THE APPELLATE REVIEW PART OF THIS, AND IT WAS, HOWEVER, LOOKING AT THE BOARD AT THE BARS ACTION AND ASKING IF THE BAR ACTED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT IT'S IT'S THE LOCATION QUESTION.

KRISTEN WILSON: OH.

KRISTEN WILSON: THANK YOU WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS CORRECT, MR MAYOR I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT IN MY OWN.

WORDS.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE SECTION 53 DASH 10 THE APPEALS THAT PROCESS THAT STANDARD OF REVIEW HAS NOT CHANGED THAT SPLIT CURRENTLY EXISTS, RIGHT NOW, THE.

KRISTEN WILSON: OTHER SECTIONS, THE BEYOND THE REASONABLE DOUBT STANDARD WAS CHANGED OR IT'S BEING PROPOSED TO BE CHANGED TO MORE LIKELY THAN NOT SO IN THE PAST WHEN AN APPEAL HAS BEEN TAKEN.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE BOARD OF APPEALS LOOKS AT THE DARE DECISION.

KRISTEN WILSON: THEY HAVE THE THE TYPICAL ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS STANDARD, BUT THEY HAVE TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE BA RS DECISION HAD AN WAS WAS THE RECORD SO SUBSTANTIAL THAT THEY CAN PROVE THAT THEY'VE ESTABLISHED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT IT'S ALMOST LIKE A DOUBLE STANDARD THAT THEY ARE DOUBLE.

KRISTEN WILSON: EVIDENTIARY ISSUE, BUT THAT THE 53 DASH 10 RIGHT NOW IS THAT BEING PROPOSED TO BE ANY AMENDMENTS TO IT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DID YOU REMEMBER, WE WERE CONCERNED THAT WAS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT SPOKE TO BOARD OF APPEALS SOMEWHERE IN THE CODE OR IS THIS IT TO WHERE WE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WASN'T SOMETHING ELSE IN THE CODE, IT SAYS, THE ONLY MENTIONED.

KRISTEN WILSON: WELL THERE'S A CHAPTER IN OUR CHARTER DEALING WITH COURT OF APPEALS AND THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW IT'S HOW MANY CONVERSE RIGHT THERE'S DICTION IS INTERPRETIVE POWERS AND AND A FEW OTHER AREAS THAT THEY DO HAVE A PERMANENT AUTHORITY OVER, BUT NOT WITH RESPECT TO THE STANDARD OF REVIEW.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, SO WOULDN'T CONFLICT OR WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT GOOD.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OH GO AHEAD AND LAMB, SIR.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, SO KRISTEN JUST TO YOUR POINT IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE BOARD OF APPEALS WOULD LOOK AT THE DECISION CURRENTLY TODAY THAT THE VAR MAKES AND SAY, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SHOW IS BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT YOUR DECISION, THEREFORE, IS ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TO UNDER THE NEW STANDARD, IT WOULD BE, BECAUSE IT WAS MORE LIKELY THAN NOT.

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WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK THAT WAS A POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IS I DON'T THINK YOU WANTED TO CHANGE THAT LATER REVIEW STANDARD YOU WANTED TO WITH IT YOU'RE CHANGING THE BA OUR STANDARD, AND THAT WILL IMPACT THE REVIEW STANDARD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WELL, I WILL RECONSIDER MY COMMENT IN LIGHT OF A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE MADE THE CHANGE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND 10 IS ALMOST PROCEDURAL IN THIS IS HOW YOU APPLY, AND YOU HAVE 30 DAYS IT'S AN IN IS LESS ABOUT THE STANDARD OF REVIEW.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT INTERPLAY THAT'S THAT'S HELPFUL I WASN'T.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FULLY APPRECIATING.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO THE BOARD OF APPEALS IS JUST INHERITING THAT STANDARD RIGHT LIKE AS A BURDEN OF PROOF, SO IT'S THAT'S FINE OKAY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO LET ME SO IF THERE ARE ANY MORE COMMENTS BILL OR OTHERS ON THIS SECTION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JOSH UM, I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK TO AN EARLIER POINT BILL MADE ABOUT THE NOTICE PROVISION AND I DON'T KNOW THIS MAY BE DOVETAILS WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE US TO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CONSIDER IT ASKED THE STAFF TO ADVISE ON A BROADER NOTICE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RADIUS BECAUSE I FEEL RIGHT NOW THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TOLD ABOUT A BA ARE HEARING IS VERY NARROW GROUP OF PEOPLE AND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: A LOT OF THESE THINGS AFFECT NEIGHBORHOODS, AND SO THE YOU KNOW THE JUST THE ADJACENT HOMES IN THE HOMES ACROSS THE STREET IS KIND OF.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TIGHT AND MAYBE IF IT WAS A LITTLE BROADER THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE A GREATER AWARENESS OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I HEAR YOU JOHN LIVE FROM 500 FEET 2000 FEET RIGHT, THAT WAS THE CHANGE WE'VE BROUGHT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON OH SEE THAT'S THE THAT'S THE THAT'S THE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SCOPE I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT THAT'S THE SCOPE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU TALKED ABOUT NOTICE TO THAT OKAY I'M SORRY I'M SORRY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH SO.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO, THE REASON I DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT I'M GLAD YOU'RE RAISING IT IS, IS BECAUSE I THINK.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE WHATEVER'S HAPPENING IS GOING TO MOST EFFECT TO THOSE PEOPLE SURROUNDING IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T ATTEND OR WHATEVER, BUT I GET.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE IS SOME PART OF ME THAT THAT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THINKS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL JUST WEIGH IN AND.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT REALLY HAVE NO STANDING IN IT AND IT'S I YOU KNOW I JUST I WORRY ABOUT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I WORRY ABOUT THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH I THINK THERE, I APPRECIATE YOUR SAYING JULIE, I THINK YOU KNOW IF SOMETHING IS GOING ON THAT'S HUGE THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN SHOW UP ANYWAY AND PEOPLE WILL DO.

BUT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I HEAR AND AND AT TIMES THAT EXPERIENCE YOU KNOW SOME PROJECT HAPPENED AT WENT THROUGH THE BA ARE NEAR ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS AND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK IF WE'RE GIVING THE BA ARE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MORE DISCRETION HERE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I HAVING THE BENEFIT OF HEARING FROM MORE PEOPLE, OR AT LEAST HAVING MORE PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S BEING DISCUSSED IS IS HELPFUL.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YES, I'M THE MOST IF MY NEIGHBOR RIGHT NEXT TO ME, IS DOING SOMETHING I'M MORE IMPACTED THAN A HOME THAT'S TWO HOMES AWAY, BUT IF WE'RE SAYING THAT THE SCOPE OF.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NEIGHBORHOOD IS 1000 FEET I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD MAKE THE RADIUS OF NOTICE 1000 FEET THAT MIGHT BE CUMBERSOME THAT MIGHT BE JUST WAY TOO MUCH, BUT I WOULD CONSIDER.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, TWO HOUSES AWAY AS BEING AN IMPROVEMENT OR SOME KIND OF YOU KNOW, GREATER THAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, SOME SOMETHING I WOULD LOOK AT HAVING JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE AWARENESS, I DON'T THINK IT'S BURDENSOME I THINK THAT VAR YOU KNOW, IS GOING TO BE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ADDRESSING THE SAME ISSUES THAT PEOPLE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF THINGS WHERE SOMETHING HAPPENS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND PEOPLE ARE UPSET BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE IT HAPPENED WITHOUT THEM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: KNOWING THAT IT HAS, KNOWING THAT IT'S THAT IT'S HAPPENED.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LIKE THAT JUST BECOMES AN ON YOU KNOW, LIKE, THEN THE NEXT RING OUT IS GOING TO WANT TO KNOW THE NEXT THING I WAS GONNA WANT TO KNOW WHAT ALL OF THESE MEETINGS ARE PUBLIC.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE ADDRESSES ARE PUBLIC RIGHT SO TO SOME EXTENT THERE IS SOME HEY THERE'S A HOUSE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S YOU KNOW NEW OWNERS OR.

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JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST WANT I WONDER WHERE IT ENDS, TO SOME EXTENT, AND SO I JUST GET CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT'S THAT LINE, AND I FEEL LIKE IT MAKES SENSE, THOSE MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED I DON'T DISAGREE THAT PEOPLE COULD BE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, COMING INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD THERE'S YOU KNOW CAR, YOU KNOW THEY SHOULD KNOW THAT THERE'S CONSTRUCTION OR WHATEVER, AND THEY SHOULD BE NOTIFIED OF SOME OF THOSE THINGS I JUST I JUST WORRY ABOUT WHERE IT ENDS AND THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST I'M HOPE I'M BRINGING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION, I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD CONSIDER IT AND YEAH I MEAN IT, YOU CAN KEEP GOING AND AND, BUT I FEEL THE RING IS TIGHTER.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAN MAYBE WE WANT, AND ALSO, I THINK IT VARIES FROM NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEIGHBORHOOD DEPENDING ON IF YOU'RE IN SOME OF THE SMALLER THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH SMALLER LOTS THE IMPACT OF A HOME.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NOT A JASON BUT ONE DOWN IS BIGGER THAN IF YOU'RE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH LARGER LOTS AND YOU KNOW TO DOWN IS IS FAR AWAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO IT'S SOMETHING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I WOULD ASK.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: EVERYONE TO JUST CONSIDER WHETHER WE WANT A LITTLE MORE INVOLVEMENT, PARTICULARLY AS WE'RE TRYING TO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: GIVE THE VR MORE MORE AUTHORITY.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MAYBE THE MAYBE THE NOTICE SHOULD BE DESIGNED BY THE ZONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH IT COULD BE HOUSES.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW I THOUGHT I AGREE WITH JOSH THAT ON THIS, I THINK YOU KNOW THERE'S THERE'S, THIS IS A LITTLE TOO NARROW FOR ME TO BE HONEST, BUT ANYWAY.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: UM MAYBE CHRIS CHRISTIAN, YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS, BUT I DO RECALL IT CERTAIN NOTICE PROVISIONS UNDER DIRT THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT RULES REQUIRE A BROADER SCOPE, AM I WRONG IS IT LIKE FOR ZONING OR SOME COURT OF APPEALS.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YEAH YEAH BECAUSE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THIS WAS TALKED ABOUT IN 2010 WHEN WE LAST REVISITED THIS AND.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: ADJUSTING THE RULES ACTUALLY MADE THE NOTIFICATION SMALLER SOME OF THE CERTIFIED MAILINGS LESS AND REMEMBER THE CLASSIC LINE WHICH WAS YOU WANT TO GET NOTICED, NOT AN AARON.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: MEANING, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE POST OFFICE YOU KNOW THINGS LIKE THAT THE REALITY IS I LOOK BACK AT THAT 2010 VERSUS TODAY.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THE ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY, I MEAN THIS MEETING IS IS WAY MORE ACCESSIBLE MINUTES EVER BEEN YOUR WEBSITE YOUR EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: WE DON'T DO NEWSPAPER NOTIFICATIONS ANYMORE, BECAUSE WHO READS THE CLASSIFIED ADS SO SOME THINGS LIKE THAT WERE ACTUALLY PURGE BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST COMPLETELY NOBODY READS THOSE SO.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THE ISSUE IS ZONE, THE ISSUE IS TIGHTNESS 1000 FEET, I ALSO NEED TO BE AWARE OF WHAT KIND OF APPLICATIONS, THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW REVIEWS IT'S NOT ALL NEW BIG HOUSES, I MEAN SMALL RELATIVELY SMALL PROJECTS GO.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IF YOU WERE DOING A SMALL PROJECT AND YOU WERE TRYING TO EVEN UNDER THESE STANDARDS EVALUATE ITS IMPACT 1000 FEET AWAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OH.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN THAT'S NOT ON NOTICE THAT'S JUST ON STANDARD OF REVIEW SO BUT, BUT MY POINT IS ONLY THAT WE CAN I COULD WE COULD TELL YOU WHAT THE CURRENT STANDARDS ARE FOR DIFFERENT BOARDS DIFFERENT PERMITS THE NEW STEEP SLOPE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THEY BECAUSE YOU'RE DISTURBING A SLOPE IT'S BROADER AND ITS EFFECT THAT BECAME 300 FEET.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IT'S A CHOICE, I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE MECHANICS OF THAT THAT YOU SHOULD PROBABLY BE AWARE OF.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: HOW THE POST OFFICE ONLY DOES 10 CERTIFIED MAILINGS AT ONE POINT, PEOPLE HAVE TO GET IN LINE, THREE AND FOUR TIMES THERE'S ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, BUT IT'S IT'S I UNDERSTAND THE POINT IT'S A POLICY DECISION BUT I'LL GIVE WE CAN GIVE YOU SOME INCENSE.

[8. Open the public hearing to amend Chapter 177 “Taxation” Article X “Cold War Veterans Exemption” of the Rye City Code to increase the Real Property Tax Exemption for Veterans of the Cold War.]

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SURE, WHEN I GET A NOTICE IT SAYS MY NEIGHBORS YOU KNOW REDESIGNING THE OVERHANG ON THEIR DECK OR SOMETHING I DON'T SHOW UP.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW THEY'RE THEY'RE REPAIRING OR FIXING OR ADJUSTING I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, BUT WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING A MAJOR EDITION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: EVERYONE, YOU KNOW AGAIN LIKE I THINK CHRISTIAN, YOU MADE A GOOD POINT AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR 1000 FEET I'M NOT EVEN ADVOCATING FOR SPECIFIC THING JUST A LITTLE BIT BIGGER BUT I THOUGHT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CHRISTIAN YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY FOR AWARENESS AND ALL OF THAT, AND I WOULD JUST SAY LET'S THINK ABOUT ABOUT THAT, SO THAT WE CAN YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MAYBE THERE'S THERE'S SOME OTHER WAYS OF PEOPLE SEEING WHAT'S GOING ON BUT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A NEW CITY HALF THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO BE AWARE WHO JUST I'D LIKE IS FOR LOOK AT THAT, OR AT LEAST ALL CONSIDER IT.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO, AGAIN WE TURN TO THE PUBLIC.

KRISTEN WILSON: ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND OR PRESS STAR NINE.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOU'VE NO HANDS RAISED, MR MAYOR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY AGAIN I'D LIKE TO PUT THIS OVER AND MAY HAVE A MOTION.

MOTION.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SECOND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AYE AYE AYE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I DO APPRECIATE A 10 MINUTE BREAK I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHERS FEEL ABOUT THAT, BUT PLEASE, PLEASE INDULGE ME.

[9. Resolution to adopt the 2021 Westchester County Hazard Mitigation Plan update.]

[10. Resolution to extend the curbside Food Scrap Recycling program through March 31, 2022 in order to gather and review the 2021 program data.]

[11. Authorization to transfer an amount not to exceed $75,000 from the General Capital Projects account to the General Fund Engineering Consultant Account in order to complete the state required Emergency Action Plan and engineering assessment for the Bowman Avenue Dam.]

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JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HERE I'M JUST DONE A VIDEO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, SO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LET'S GO TO RESIDENTS MAY BE HURT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AGAIN, SUBJECT TO OUR THREE MINUTE CONVENTION, AND PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF WITH YOUR ADDRESS.

KRISTEN WILSON: PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE HEARD.

KRISTEN WILSON: NO ONE RAISING THEIR HAND RIGHT NOW, MR MAYOR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY LET'S GO ON TO AGENDA ITEM.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: NINE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND CHAPTER 177 TECH STATION APRIL 10 COLD WAR VETERANS EXEMPTION OF THE RISE CITY CODE TO INCREASE THE REAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION FOR VETERANS OF THE COLD WAR GREG IF YOU WOULD HELP US.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: SURE, MR MAYOR.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: ABOUT A MONTH AGO, THE COUNTY CHANGE THE TAP ALLOW FOR CERTAIN DEFINED VETERANS FOR SOME TAX EXEMPTION, THE CITY HAS HISTORICALLY FOLLOWED SUIT WHEN THAT IS THAT, AS OCCURRED.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: IT WE CURRENTLY HAVE 25 VETERANS IN THE CITY THAT ARE BENEFITING OR AFFECTED BY THIS EXEMPTION THE IMPACT PER RECIPIENT IS APPROXIMATELY $65 A YEAR.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THE COST TO THE CITY OF THIS EXEMPTION IS APPROXIMATELY AN ADDITIONAL 1300 DOLLARS A YEAR TOTALING 50 $500 AND AGAIN IT'S FOR CERTAIN VETERANS DURING THE FOR THE FOR THE COLD WAR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO MAY HAVE EMOTION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MEGAN MOSHE CAN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK WE NEED A ROLL CALL.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: SORRY, MR MARY DID YOU OPEN OR CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO THE MOTION IS TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING THE SECOND.

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HI.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PUBLIC HEARING.

KRISTEN WILSON: I MEAN.

KRISTEN WILSON: IF ANYONE HAS TO BE WANTS TO BE HEARD.

KRISTEN WILSON: ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC HEARING, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND.

KRISTEN WILSON: OKAY, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYONE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, MAY HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SOME LEFT.

SECOND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: PAY NOW, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AMEND CHAPTER 177 TO INCREASE THE REAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION FOR VETERANS THE COLD WAR HAS SET FORTH IN OUR AGENDA PACKAGE.

SO.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'LL SECOND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN HENDERSON.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ALL RIGHT.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN HEARD.

YES.

[12. Adjourn until March 16, 2022 the public hearing for consideration of a petition from The Miriam Osborn Memorial Home to amend the text of the City of Rye Zoning Code Association to create new use and development standards for “Senior Living Facilities” in the R-2 Zoning District.]

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILMAN NATHAN.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILWOMAN SOUZA.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: COUNCILMAN STACKS YES.

MAYOR CONE YES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE MOVE TO A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WESTCHESTER COUNTY HAZARD HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN UPDATE A AN UPDATE ON WHICH CHRISTIAN MILLER HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT.

[13. Appointments to Boards and Commissions by the Mayor with Council approval.]

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU, CHRISTIAN CHRISTIAN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CAN YOU GIVE US JUST A LITTLE A LITTLE A LITTLE OVERVIEW OBVIOUSLY THERE'S VOLUMINOUS DETAIL IN THE HAZARDOUS HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN, BUT BEFORE BEFORE WE ROLL IT FORWARD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: COULD YOU JUST ONCE AGAIN EXPLAIN OUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE COUNTY PLAN WHAT OUR SCHEDULE IS WHAT THE COUNTY SCHEDULE IS IN TERMS OF FINALIZING THIS AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANY ANY OTHER HIGHLIGHTS YOU CARE TO BRING OUT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SURE, SO UM THERE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK HERE, BUT A LOT OF IT HAS BEEN DONE, BECAUSE IT'S VERY CONSISTENT WITH YEARS PAST.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THE CITY OF RIDE, AS IT HAS IN THE PAST IS PARTICIPATING IN WHAT THEY CALL A MULTI JURISDICTIONAL PLAN.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: PREVIOUSLY, THE CITY WOULD MAKE ITS OWN PLAN IN EVERY COMMUNITY IN THE STATE IN NEW YORK, WOULD MAKE ITS OWN PLAN AND, QUITE HONESTLY, YOU WERE JUST NOT COMPETITIVE IN SEEKING GRANTS AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS COMES.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THE PRINCIPLE FOR IT AS A PLANNER I'M GOING TO SEE PLANS ARE ALWAYS GOOD, BUT THE COUNCIL'S LIKE TO HEAR THIS IS A PLAN THAT CAN GET YOU MONEY.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND SO, THIS IS THE THE PRECURSOR THAT PREREQUISITE FOR THAT, AND SO WHAT THIS PLAN DOES IS IT HAS THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY PORTION OF IT, AND THIS WAS DONE BY A CONSULTANT A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED CONSULTING FIRM.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: DIDN'T COST US ANYTHING AND THEN THERE'S ANNEXES OR DEPENDENCIES FOR EACH COMMUNITY THAT PARTICIPATES.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THAT'S WHAT WE WORKED ON THE FLOOD ACTUALLY MANY THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS THAT WAS DONE COMMENTS WERE MADE DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY PROCESS THROUGH A WEBSITE AGAIN, ALL OF THIS GOT COMPRESSED BECAUSE OF COVEN THIS HAS BEEN A YEAR DELAYED BECAUSE OF THAT, AND SO THE.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: PLAN NEEDS TO BE ADOPTED BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SO THAT THAT YOU CAN BE ELIGIBLE FOR HAZARD MITIGATION GRANTS THAT ARE GOING TO START BECOMING AVAILABLE AS EARLY AS I BELIEVE APRIL.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SO.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: WHAT WE HAVE HERE ARE MANY OF THE PREVIOUSLY RECOMMENDED STRATEGIES FOR FLOOD MITIGATION SPECIFICALLY IT'S AN ALL HAZARD PLAN.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: BUT OBVIOUSLY THE NUMBER ONE HAZARD IN RISE, IT IS IN MOST OF WESTCHESTER IS FLOODING, SO A LOT OF IT IS EMPHASIZED ON FLOODING AND.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: WE DON'T IN SOME CASES, HAVE A LOT OF DETAIL FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS BUT IT'S BROAD ENOUGH THAT WE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: CITE THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT WE MAY HAVE IN THE FUTURE, FITS WITHIN THE HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN AND AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO YOU HAVE BEFORE YOUR RESOLUTION.

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CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: INCORPORATING SOME OF THE THINGS, FOR INSTANCE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF REFERENCE TO HAIDA IN THIS PLAN AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE BULK OF THIS DATA GATHERING PROCESS WAS BEFORE IT OCCURRED.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND THE VARIOUS INCREMENTAL TARGETS THAT WE HAD TO MEET A LOT OF THE IDA STUFF WASN'T AVAILABLE WE'RE STILL CALCULATING AND ASSESSING SAY I DID DAMAGE BUT WHEREVER I COULD I INTEGRATED REFERENCES TO IT IN THE DOCUMENT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: ALSO, JUST CLARIFYING SOME OF THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS, YOU HAVE A RED LINE AND STRIKE OUT VERSION.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND YOU KNOW THIS, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP, AS YOU CONTEMPLATE NEW MITIGATION PROJECTS GOING FORWARD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: QUESTIONS FOR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FOR CHRISTIAN I, I HAVE TO ADMIT TO HAVING AND ASKED HIM SOME EARLIER AND GOTTEN MAGNETS OUT OF THE WAY.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YEAH THERE WERE JUST SOME CLARIFICATIONS NOT NOT NOT SUBSTANTIVE THEY WERE GOOD GOOD COMMENTS.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST SAY THANK YOU THIS LOOKS LIKE IT WAS VERY WELL DONE IN A VERY SUBSTANTIAL EFFORT.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND WE NEED THIS, I MEAN GOODNESS KNOWS WE NEED WHEN WE NEED THIS TO BE OUT THERE IN IN THE GRANT OR.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'LL SECOND.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TO ADOPT THE HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN THERE'S SOME SHOWN ON THE AGENDA.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: DO WE NEED ROLL CALL OR IS THIS.

KRISTEN WILSON: NO VOICE PHONE IS FINE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AYE AYE THANK YOU CHRISTIAN.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CHRISTIAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T SEE IT'S ABOUT 50 PAGES OF MATERIAL BUT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HAD A LOT OF DETAIL, AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.

CHRISTIAN K. MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SOUNDS GREAT GUYS, THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND GOOD NIGHT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO WE CAN NOW GO TO RESOLUTION TO EXTEND THE FOOD SCRAP RECYCLING PROGRAM THROUGH MARCH 31 2022 STATED LEE IN ORDER TO GATHER AND REVIEW THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: PROGRAM DATA, BUT ACTUALLY ACTUALLY THE THE THOUGHT WAS MORE THAT THAT IS WHEN SUBSCRIBERS SUBSCRIPTIONS RUN RUN OUT AND SO NOT ONLY DOES IT GIVE US TIME TO LITTLE MORE TIME TO LOOK AT DATA, BUT IT HAS US HONORING PEOPLE'S SUBSCRIPTIONS AND SO, IF I MAY, IF I MAY HAVE A MOTION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YES, I'LL MOVE.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BACK A.

SECOND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HI ALL RIGHT.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: HI HI.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M READING THIS AND ACTUALLY THERE'S SOMETHING I WANT TO CLARIFY AFTERWARDS, THIS IS THE CURB SIDE THAT IS WE'RE EXTENDING THE CURB SIDE AND I THOUGHT I HAD SEEN A DRAFT THAT SAID CURBSIDE MAYBE I'M LOOKING AT THE OLD DRAFT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AGENDA BUT.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: IT SHOULD HAVE SENT CURBSIDE I'M SORRY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MY YES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE THE DROP OF PROGRAM IS IS IS IS RUNNING ALONG AND IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO THIS THIS EXPIRATION DATE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND I DO WANT TO MAKE MAKE THAT CLEAR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, SO WE GO TO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AUTHORIZATION TO TRANSFER, AN AMOUNT, NOT TO EXCEED 75,000 FROM THE GENERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS ACCOUNT TO THE GENERAL FUND ENGINEERING CONSULTANT ACCOUNT IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE STATE REQUIRED EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN, AN ENGINEERING ASSESSMENT FOR THE BONE SORRY BOWMAN AVENUE DAMN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'LL START AND MAYBE GREG WE WANT TO ADD THESE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN AWARE OF FOR SOME TIME WE HIT WRAP THEM INTO THE NEW YORK RISING PROJECT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND THEY WERE PART IN FACT OF THE NEW YORK RISING PROJECT GRANT AS IT WAS BEING ESTIMATED AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: PLANNED BY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF STORM RECOVERY AND THE DORMITORY AUTHORITY OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BUT WE'VE DECIDED TO GO FORWARD AND GREG PLEASE TAKE THIS OVER NOW WE'RE I THINK TRYING TO GO FORWARD IN A WAY, SO THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SHOULD WE GET THE NEW YORK RISING FUNDING AFTER THE FACT, WILL BE ABLE TO BE REIMBURSED FOR DOING THIS.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THAT BOTH OF THEM STATEMENTS ARE CORRECT SO BOTH OF THESE ITEMS ARE REQUIRED BY NEW YORK STATE.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: WE HAVE RECEIVED A PROPOSAL TO ENGAGED RAMBLE TO TO UNDERTAKE THIS.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THIS IS THE SAME ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WAS THE ACCEPTED CONSULTANT AND BITTER UNDER THE NEW YORK RISING PROJECT, AND SO THE REASON WHY WE'RE YOUR ONE WE WE.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: APPRECIATE THEIR WORK AND HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THEIR WORK AND THEIR TIMELINESS.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: BUT ALSO IN COMMON IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THE STATE PROCUREMENT PROCESS IN SUCH A WAY THAT.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: AS THE MAYOR SAID, TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE ARE MONIES AVAILABLE, SOME MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD THAT WILL BE ABLE TO REIMBURSE OURSELVES FROM THAT AND AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THAT IS THAT IT IS RAMBLE, WHO WAS THE SUCCESSFUL THAT ARE UNDER THE NEW YORK RISING PROGRAM.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THE EXPECTED COST IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THE AREA OF 67 TO $70,000 OR SAY I'M SORRY 62 TO $65,000.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THERE WAS ADDITIONAL AUTHORIZED MONEY IN HERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE ROOM IN THE EVENT THAT THEY.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: DISCOVER SOME ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THEM FURTHER REVIEW OR IF WE WANT TO HAVE THEM DO SOME ADDITIONAL WORK WITH THE NEW YORK STATE DC WITH REGARD TO THE CATEGORIZATION OF THE DAY.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT AUTHORIZATION TONIGHT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND I I'D LIKE TO ADD A FEW THINGS TO THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ONE THE CATEGORIZATION OF DAMN DRIVES THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DOCUMENTATION WILL HAVE TO FILE IN THE FUTURE AND, OF COURSE, IT SEEMS TO AIR DAM SEEMS TO BE HIGHLY MISUNDERSTOOD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE POOR THING THAT IS WATER IN THE ORDINARY COURSE PASSES UNDER IT IN IN IN IN MOST WHETHER IT IS NOT RETAINING ANY WATER AND IT ONLY DOES SO UNDER UNDER FLOODS CIRCUMSTANCES AND THEN OF COURSE IT IS EMPTY AS SOON AS THE FLOODS CIRCUMSTANCES RECEDED EMPTIES AUTOMATICALLY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANOTHER ASPECT OF THE DAMN TO UNDERSTAND AND ONE A MISUNDERSTANDING COMMUNICATED TO ME IN THE LAST DAY OR SO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IS THAT WELL IDA OVERTOPPED THE DAM AND SO THAT MUST MEAN THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE DAM, AND OF COURSE THE DAMN IS DESIGNED WITH THE SPILLWAY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TO SPILL WHEN THE WATER GETS TOO HIGH, AND SOMETIMES THE WATER EVEN GETS HIGHER THAN THE SPILLWAY AS IT DID IN IDA THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE, AND DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH THE DAMS INTEGRITY AND THEN FINALLY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE CITY DID AFTER IDA COMMISSION AN ENGINEER AN ENGINEERING FIRM, I THINK IT WAS RAMBLE, IN FACT, TO GO OUT AND DO A DAMN INSPECTION AND THAT DAMN INSPECTION WAS DONE AND FOUND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FOUND ONLY THINGS TO REPAIR, TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IN THE ORDINARY MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE OF THE DAMN THAT IS NO ADDITIONAL OR NO, NO ITEMS THAT NEEDED EMERGENCY OR WRAP WRAP IT WORK AND SO OF COURSE WE DO KEEP UP WITH ORDINARY DAMN MAINTENANCE WITH THAT AS BACKGROUND AND INFORMATION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO TRANSFER THE AMOUNT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DEMO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THEY HAVE A SECOND.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: I CAN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN HENDERSON.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILWOMAN HEARD.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILMAN NATHAN.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILWOMAN TO THE.

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YES.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: MAYOR COHEN.

YES.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN I JUST ASK A POINT OF INFORMATION IS THIS THE SAME AAP THAT WAS CALLED FOR IN NEW YORK RISING, IS IT RELATED TO THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OR IS IT A NEW.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: IT IS IT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL NEW YORK RISING SCOPE TO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: GREAT SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CHECK THAT BOX NOW.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: WE WILL WE WILL CHECK THAT BOX.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, AND HOPEFULLY JOSH WITH NEW YORK RISING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FUNDING RIGHT RIGHT OKAY APPRECIATE THAT ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: CAN ALL COMES FULL CIRCLE RIGHT JOSH.

YEAH YEAH.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: ORIGINAL MEMBER.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: YOUR RISING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WELL OKAY SO LET'S GO ON TO A JOURNAL UNTIL MARCH 16 2022.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF A PETITION FROM THE MIRIAM OSBORNE MEMORIAL HOME TO MEN, THE TEXT TO THE CITY OF RISE ZONING CODE APPLICABLE TO ITS DEVELOPMENT LAMBS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MAY HAVE A MOUSE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AWESOME EVENT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I SAW BILL AS A SECOND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AYE AYE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WITH COUNCIL APPROVAL.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THIS WEEK JUST CHRIS BEARDSLEY HAS VOLUNTEERED THANK YOU CHRIS TO JOIN THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OLD BUSINESS NEW BUSINESS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SECOND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR.

WILLIAM HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ALRIGHT ALRIGHT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANKS EVERYONE.

GOOD NIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.