Jun 15, 2022 Rye City Council Meeting

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE NOW MOVE TO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: DISCUSSION OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURE OF MONEY FROM GENERAL FUNDS UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE TO PAY FOR NEW EQUIPMENT FOR AN ADVANCED RADIO SYSTEM PROVIDED THROUGH MTA GREG AND, I BELIEVE, COMMISSIONER, COPING.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: SEE IF.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THE COMMISSIONER CAN BE PROMOTED MCCALL.

KRISTEN WILSON: JUST SENT THEM AN INVITATION I THINK HE'S HAVING SOME TROUBLE LOGGING ON.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: OKAY, ALL RIGHT, LET ME I'LL DO A BRIEF INTRODUCTION AND HOPEFULLY HE'LL JOIN US IN A SECOND I ALSO ASKED JOE TO JOIN US TONIGHT, SINCE THIS IS A FINANCIAL CONSIDERATION.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: AS AS EVERYONE ARE MANY OF YOU RECALL FROM LAST YEAR WE REPLACE THE CAD SYSTEM FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THIS IS THE COMPUTER ASSISTED DISPATCH SYSTEM.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THAT COMES FROM THE DISPATCHER POLICE HEADQUARTERS TO CARS AS THEY'RE BEING DISPATCHED FOR VARIOUS REASONS, AROUND THE CITY.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THERE IS A SECOND, AND I MIGHT ARGUE A MORE IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE POLICE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE RADIOS THAT THE OFFICERS CARRY ON THEIR PERSONS, AS WELL AS IN THE CARS THEMSELVES I'M GOOD I'M GONNA RUN OUT OF WORDS IN A SECOND SO COOKIES JUST JOINING US.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THE SYSTEM WE HAVE NOW IS IS RELATIVELY OUTDATED QUICKLY BECOMING OBSOLETE AND WITH COMMISSIONER COPIA IN HIS HIS SENIOR OFFICERS, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON AN ALTERNATIVE WHICH I'LL LET HIM DESCRIBE.

KOPY: OKAY, THANK YOU, MISS MANAGER MAYOR I'M SORRY I'M LATE, I HAD A HARD TIME JOINING IN SO.

KOPY: THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAME AWARE OF A PROJECT THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED BY THE MET METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY.

KOPY: RADIO SAYS A SERVICE THAT WAS GOING TO BE MADE AVAILABLE ALL MUNICIPALITIES AND A VERY LARGE AREA BASICALLY FROM JUST SOUTH OF ALBANY TO THE END OF.

KOPY: LONG ISLAND AND THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THEIR SYSTEM WHICH HAS EXCESS CAPACITY THAT THEY ARE ALLOWING AND MUNICIPALITIES TO JOIN ON BOARD FOR.

KOPY: THEIR JOIN ON BOARD FOR A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF MONEY, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE EQUIPMENT AND THEY WILL MAINTAIN THE HARDWARE AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE MINUS A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY OR.

KOPY: A LESS AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR US TO DO WHAT OURSELVES SO WE EVALUATED SOME EQUIPMENT THAT IS.

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KOPY: NECESSARY FOR THIS AND WE FEEL IT'S BEST TO MOVE IN A DIRECTION OF A NEW RADIO SYSTEM, OUR SYSTEM IS HOLD IT STATED IT'S NEAR THE END OF ITS LIFE, IF NOT PAST THE END OF ITS LIFE.

KOPY: AND AS WE BECAME AWARE OF THIS, WE ALSO BECAME AWARE THAT.

KOPY: WHAT CHESTER AND RYE BROOK AND THAT'S THE RADIO GROUPING THAT WERE WITH AND THAT'S THE GROUP THAT WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH FOR BACKUP THEY BACK US UP WE BACK THEM UP.

KOPY: THEY HAD MOVED A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ALONG THE PATH AND THEY'VE ALREADY.

KOPY: BECOME THE ACQUISITION PROCESS SO IN ESSENCE, WE WOULD BE REPLACING ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT, THE DESK STATION, THE THE RADIOS IN THE OLD VEHICLES AND THE PORTABLE RADIOS ISSUED TO THE POLICE OFFICER IN THE AUXILIARY AND THAT THAT FREQUENCY THEN WOULD RUN THROUGH THE HAND TH HARDWARE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANY QUESTIONS.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: I GUESS THE ONLY THING THAT, LET ME I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT HER IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS I'LL MOVE TO THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF THIS IN A SECOND BUT I'M SORRY IF YOU WANT TO IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ON THE SYSTEM ITSELF.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: RIGHT, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR THE FOR THE FINANCIAL PART CRAIG OKAY.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: ALL RIGHT, SO IF YOU WERE REFERRING THE PACKET IN THE MEMO FROM THE COMMISSIONER OF.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THE EXPECTED COST OF THE SYSTEM IS IS ROUGHLY $650,000, AND I SAY SYSTEM, THIS IS THE ACTUAL EQUIPMENT ITSELF.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THE FREQUENCY AND THE AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT FREQUENCY IS BEING BORNE BY THE MTA.

[7. Continue the public hearing for consideration of a petition from The Miriam Osborn Memorial Home to amend the text of the City of Rye Zoning Code Association to create new use and development standards for “Senior Living Facilities” in the R-2 Zoning District.]

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: AND THERE WILL BE A SMALL ANNUAL MAINTENANCE EXPENSE FOR THAT, BUT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT, THE HANDHELDS AND THE END THE RADIOS THAT GO IN THE CARS AND THE DISPATCH OR NOT, THE DISPATCH BUT I HIT COURSE.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: WE BELIEVE THAT THAT COST IS BETWEEN 650 AND $700,000 YOU WILL NOTE THE AGENDA ITEM IS TO ALLOCATE FROM ON A SIGN FUND BALANCE $600,000 WHICH I'LL LET YOU TALK ABOUT IN JUST A SECOND.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: I'M ACTUALLY ANNOUNCED WHEN STOP TALKING TO YOU CAN COVER THE FUND BALANCE AND THE IMPLICATION ON THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: HERE SO I'M SURE YOU ALL REMEMBER FROM TWO WEEKS AGO AND I GAVE MY PRESENTATION AND O'CLOCK AT NIGHT OUT FINISHED ABOUT 615,000 OVER THAT 10% CAP THAT WE HAVE FOR THE GENERAL FUND ON ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE OF THE 2022 APPROPRIATIONS IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT 615 ALMOST $616,000 SO.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: THAT COMES IN, ABOUT 11.34% IF WE APPROPRIATE THE $600,000 WE WILL BE RIGHT AT THAT 10%.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: PERCENTAGE OF UNDER THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS, OBVIOUSLY, THEIR SAVINGS FROM YOU KNOW CERTAIN LINES IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THROUGHOUT THE COURSE THE YEAR MAKING POSITIONS.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: FILLED TIME.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: FILLING IN THE POSITION SO WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO SUPPORT THIS AND STAY WITHIN THE CITY USA YOU KNOW.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: MANDATED CAP AT 10%.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: BUT JUST TO BE TO BE CLEAR, WE EXPECT THE COST IS PROBABLY GOING TO APPROACH $700,000 MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE OF PREPARATION WOULD BE NOT TO EXCEED 600,000, WHICH WOULD THEN BE AN ADHERENCE WITH THE COUNCIL'S POLICY OF A 10% GENERAL FUND RESERVE AND THE ANY ADDITIONAL OVERAGE WOULD BE FUNDED OUT OF THE REGULAR POLICE BUDGET THROUGH SURPLUS UNFILLED POSITIONS, ETC.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND JUST I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER, BUT THE EXPECTED USEFUL LIFE OF THIS NEW SYSTEM IS IS IS WHAT.

KOPY: I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT TIME FRAME, BUT IT'S PROBABLY IN THE 1020 YEAR RANGE AND IT PROBABLY BE ON THE UPPER END OF THAT SORT OUT OF FIVE YEAR PURCHASE.

KOPY: TO HAVE THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, IF NOT, I ASKED FOR EMOTION.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN MAKE THE MOTION.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'LL SECOND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK WE NEED ROLL CALL.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN HENDERSON.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILWOMAN HEARD.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILMAN NATHAN.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILWOMAN SOUZA.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILMAN STACKS.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, MAYOR CONE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

KOPY: ACCURATE BRUSCHETTA SUPPORT.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THANK YOU.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: EVERYBODY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: GOOD NIGHT.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, NOW WE CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF PETITION FROM THE US BORN TO AMEND THE TEXT TO THE CITY OF RISE ZONING CODE ASSOCIATION TO CREATE NEW USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES IN THE ART TO ZONING DISTRICT.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.

KRISTEN WILSON: YES, I BELIEVE STEVE RACHEL IS HERE AND WE'LL BE SPEAKING BRIEFLY IS BEING PROMOTED AND.

KRISTEN WILSON: PROMOTING AND YOUR TONGUE.

KRISTEN WILSON: I BELIEVE MATT ANDERSON IS ON TO.

STEVEN WRABEL: CHRISTIAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME.

KRISTEN WILSON: I CAN I ANDY AND MATT HAVE BEEN PROMOTED IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU NEED PROMOTED.

STEVEN WRABEL: CAN I BE PROMOTED.

ANDREW TUNG: YOU ARE.

STEVEN WRABEL: I DON'T THINK I AM I THINK I'M JUST.

STEVEN WRABEL: THINKING I'M JUST A PARTICIPANT.

STEVEN WRABEL: I'M STILL A PARTICIPANT I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK, BUT I WAS HOPING TO BRIEFLY SHARE MY.

KRISTEN WILSON: WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

STEVEN WRABEL: THAT'S BETTER, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME STILL.

STEVEN WRABEL: YES, OKAY GREAT.

STEVEN WRABEL: THE ONLY OTHER PERSON THAT YOU MAY WANT TO ELEVATE IS STEVE SUPPOSE FROM HARDESTY IN HANOVER OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, WHO IS WITH US TONIGHT.

STEVEN WRABEL: SO WELL THAT GETS GOING I'LL JUST BRIEFLY INTRODUCE MYSELF IN THE GROUP AGAIN IF THE RECORD MY NAME IS STEVE RUBELL ON WITH THE LAW FIRM OF MCCULLOUGH GOLDBERGER AND STOUT.

STEVEN WRABEL: I HAVE WITH ME TONIGHT MATT ANDERSON THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE NERIUM OSBORNE MEMORIAL HOME ASSOCIATION AND YOUR TONGUE FROM DTS PROVENANCE AND STEPHEN CIPOLLA FROM HARDESTY IN HANOVER.

STEVEN WRABEL: SO I JUST WANT TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY, WE DID SUBMIT TO YOU OUR UPDATED LOCAL LAW WHICH INCORPORATED THE CHANGES WE HAD DISCUSSED IN OUR MARCH SUBMISSION AND DISCUSS THAT OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING LAST MONTH, SO THAT RED LINE ALL OF OUR CHANGES, REDUCING FA ARE REDUCING PERMITTED LOT COVERAGE.

STEVEN WRABEL: BUILDING HEIGHTS AND SOME SETBACK REGULATIONS AND QUANTIFYING YOUR COUNCILS REQUEST FOR THE HUNDRED FOR PARKING SETBACK FROM POST ROAD ON THE EVERGREEN SCREENING.

STEVEN WRABEL: WE DID IN ORDER TO ILLUSTRATE THIS POINT SUBMIT AS WELL, AN UPDATED ILLUSTRATIVE DIAGRAM CAN YOU ALL SEE THAT NOW.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES, GREAT.

STEVEN WRABEL: SO THIS WAS INCLUDED IN OUR PACKAGE.

STEVEN WRABEL: IT UPDATED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE CALCULATIONS, AS WELL AS SHOWED SOME REDUCED STORIES, PARTICULARLY AS WE HAD NOTED IN OUR LAST MEETING.

STEVEN WRABEL: WE IMPOSED A NEW LIMITATION ON BUILDINGS WITHIN 400 FEET OF US ON A ROAD REDUCING THEIR HEIGHT TWO THREE STORIES AND 45 FEET AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PURPLE LINE REPRESENTS THE 400 FOOT SET BACK.

STEVEN WRABEL: I KNOW THERE WAS SOME POTENTIAL CONFUSION AS TO WHAT THAT NEW LINE THAT BUT WE UPDATED FOR EASE OF REFERENCE, THE ZONING DIAGRAM THAT I KNOW YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.

STEVEN WRABEL: YOU'LL SEE HERE THE BLUE, YELLOW AND RED LINES ARE ALL THE SAME AS AS WHAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY AND PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED THIS DARK BLUE LINE IS THAT 400 FOOT LINE THAT CREATES THE THREE STORY 45 FOOT HEIGHT RESTRICTION.

STEVEN WRABEL: SO.

STEVEN WRABEL: THAT WAS ALL I WANTED TO DRESS UP FRONT, BUT CERTAINLY IF YOU, THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US WE'VE GOT OUR TEAM HERE TONIGHT AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AS BEST WE CAN THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANY FURTHER JOSH NATHAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: STEVE THANKS WAS THAT LAST CHART THAT YOU SHOWED US THE ONE THAT WE GOT TODAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YES, OKAY SO THAT'S NEW.

STEVEN WRABEL: IT IS.

STEVEN WRABEL: IT IS A NEW DRAWING, BUT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ILLUSTRATIVE DIAGRAM THAT YOU RECEIVED ON JUNE 3 OKAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST A DIFFERENT PICTURE, THE SAME THING.

STEVEN WRABEL: IT'S ESSENTIALLY A IMPOSED ON AN AREA SO IT'S A DIFFERENT PICTURE OF THE SAME SETBACKS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, SO THAT'S IT'S JUST THAT IT'S ON THE AERIALS.

STEVEN WRABEL: IT'S ON THE AREA AND AND WE LABELED WITH THE ARROWS WHAT THE SETBACKS REPRESENTED, JUST TO CLARIFY, I KNOW THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT COLORED LINES AND, WHAT IS THIS NEW LINE MEAN SO WE JUST WE HOPE THAT THIS WOULD CLEAR UP ANY QUESTION.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET TO JOSH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO, I THINK THIS IS THE ONE WE GOT IT FOR 46 TODAY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH THAT'S WHAT IT WAS IN THE AGENDA PACKET I'M TELLING YOU WHEN IT WAS IN THE AGENDA PACKET FROM LAST WEEK SO MAYBE RECENT TO US BUT IT'S IN THE AGENDA PACKET.

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JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DIDN'T SEE IT IN MY HEAD OKAY.

KRISTEN WILSON: JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY EVERYONE'S THIS WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE STAGE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, WAS IN THE AGENDA PACKET.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT WE HAVE JUST THE OTHER ONE WAS.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE OTHER ONE WHICH IS THE AERIAL WITH THE STATE WITH THE TEXT SHOWING THE ACTUAL THIS ONE WAS THAT WAS JUST RECEIVED TODAY, IT WILL BE UPLOADED TO OUR WEBSITE, BUT THIS JUST SHOWS WITH TEXT WHAT THE WHICH EACH LINE REFLECTS IN TERMS OF THE STUFF BACK.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN SS IS THE SAME INFORMATION OVER A DIFFERENT PICTURE.

STEVEN WRABEL: THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT THERE IS NO.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NAME INFORMATION, NO NEW INFORMATION.

STEVEN WRABEL: THAT IS CORRECT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THANK YOU, AND THEN, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PARKING SITUATION WITH THE WITH THE 400.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SETBACKS BACK.

STEVEN WRABEL: THE PARKING SETBACK.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PARKING OR.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ROAD SITUATION THAT WILL BE AROUND THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY, HOW IS IT BEING SCREENED AND YOU KNOW HOW FAR AWAY FROM US WHEN WE WILL BE.

STEVEN WRABEL: RIGHT SO.

STEVEN WRABEL: FOR OUR PRIOR DISCUSSIONS IN THE COUNCIL'S REQUEST, THERE IS A PROPOSED A 240 FOOT SET BACK FROM OSBORNE ROAD FOR ROADWAYS OR POTENTIAL PARKING AREAS, AS WELL AS 100 FOOT SET BACK FROM THE POST ROAD, BOTH OF WHICH ARE REQUIRED NOW TO BE SCREENED WITH EVERGREEN PLANTINGS.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME, BUT WHILE WE'RE CLARIFYING THINGS I HAD RECEIVED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE PLACEMENT OF AN AUTOMATED TRACKING RESPONDER.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: AT A CERTAIN LOCATION ON OSBORNE ROAD I SPOKE EARLIER TODAY WITH MICHAEL ON DAY AND I KNOW STEVENS HERE TONIGHT FROM THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FIRM.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: I DID RECEIVE CLARIFICATION THAT THE LOCATION OF THAT.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: ATR I THINK IS THE ACRONYM WAS.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: BECAUSE THEY WERE THERE WAS A DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION STUDY THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN 2016 AND THEY WERE PLACING THAT ATR IN THE EXACT SAME LOCATION, JUST SO THAT THEY HAD SOME COMPARATIVE DATA FROM 2016 IT WAS TOTALLY UNRELATED TO THE TRAFFIC COUNT THAT THEY WERE DOING AT THE CORNERS.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: THE CORNER OF THEOLOGY OSBORNE WHERE THEY TRACKED EVERY VEHICLE WHETHER OR NOT IT LOOPED INTO THE OSBORN DRIVEWAY.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: AND ALL OF THE VEHICLES THAT WERE RETURNING IN AND OUT OF OSBORNE HOME AND THEN THE PROJECTED DATA WAS THE RESULT OF UM I GUESS MAX OCCUPANCY WITHIN 10 YEARS AND AND USING THE DATA THAT THEY THAT THEY HAD FROM ACTUAL.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: TRAFFIC PATTERNS AT THE OSBORNE UM AND.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: AND ADD A WISH I WAS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, AM I DOING OKAY SO FAR.

STEVEN WRABEL: YOU'RE DOING YOU'RE DOING GREAT.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: OKAY, AND BUT ANYWAY.

STEVEN WRABEL: RIGHT ON.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: THE YIELD ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS FIVE ADDITIONAL CARS PER HOUR AND I JUST THINK THAT'S RELEVANT.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: THE PLACEMENT OF THAT ATR WAS NOT.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: INTENTIONAL TO OBFUSCATE TRAFFIC PATTERNS GOING INTO THE SCHOOL, IT WAS ACTUALLY.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: PURPOSEFUL IT DID NOT IMPACT THE STUDY WHICH TOOK PLACE WITH CAMERA I'M MONITORING AT THE AT THE TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AT THE EXIT OF THE OSBORNE HOME AND AT THE CORNER OF FEEL AND OSBORNE SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, FROM THE BEGINNING.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: PLEASE IF THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS ANYTHING TO ADD GO AHEAD, BUT I HOPE THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: M EMILY I'LL PITCH IN FOR THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER BEFORE HE GETS A CHANCE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND JUST ADD THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE RECEIVED THE FURTHER INFORMATION THAT THERE WAS NEW DATA COLLECTED FROM THE INTERSECTION OF OSBORNE ROAD AND BOSTON POST ROAD, AS WELL AS AT OSBORNE AND AND FEEL AND THAT WENT INTO THE STATISTIC THAT THE YOU HAVE REPORTED MR TRAFFIC ENGINEER DID WE COLLECTIVELY DO OKAY.

STEVEN CIPOLLA: UM YES, I BELIEVE YOU EXPLAINED IT VERY WELL AND I AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENTS REGARDING THE.

STEVEN CIPOLLA: ATR, AND THE REASON FOR THE PLACEMENT TO MATCH THE DEAL TEASE LOCATION JUST FOR COMPARATIVE AND STATISTICAL PURPOSES AND IT HAD.

STEVEN CIPOLLA: AND IT WASN'T TAKEN INTO ANY ACCOUNT FOR OUR ANALYSES WHICH WERE BASED ON THE ACTUAL TRAINING MOVEMENT COUNTS CONDUCTED VIA VIDEO AT THE OSBORNE THEO AND AT THE DR OSBORN MAIN DRIVEWAY WITH DEAL.

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STEVEN WRABEL: THANKS STEVE JUST.

STEVEN CIPOLLA: THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL FOR THE US BORN GROUP.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, THEN I'D.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LIKE US, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OR REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING CHRISTIAN DO WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING FORMAL TO DO THAT, OR CAN WE SIMPLY AND INVITE SPEAKERS, ASKING THEM TO PLEASE ADD HERE TO OUR THREE MINUTE CUSTOM AND WE WILL ALLOW TIME FOR REPEATS AFTER ANY NEWCOMERS HAVE SPOKEN EMILY.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: I'M SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT ONE MORE STEPHEN RACHEL, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PULL UP THAT MAP AGAIN THE.

STEVEN WRABEL: OR WOULD YOU LIKE THE DIAGRAM OR THE AERIAL.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: THE DIAGRAM I THINK.

STEVEN WRABEL: CAN YOU ALL SEE IT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST WANT TO READ IT, THIS ISN'T THE AGENDA PACKET SO FOLKS ARE PULLING UP THE AGENDA PACKET AT HOME, THIS EXACT DIAGRAM IS IN THE AGENDA PACKET.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: LIKE, I JUST WANTED TO.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: HEAR THE PERSPECTIVE FROM YOU KNOW, STEPHEN OR MATT BUT.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE GENERALLY BUT, PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO THAT AREA RIGHT THERE THAT YOU'RE CIRCLING AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF OSBORNE AND FEEL AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT YOU HAVE A SETBACK, WHICH IS THE BLUE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: LINE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: CORRECT ME WHAT THAT MEANS.

SO.

STEVEN WRABEL: I THINK PERHAPS EVEN BETTER IS 760 FOOT, THAT IS, THE EXISTING.

STEVEN WRABEL: EXCUSE ME, IT SAID THAT IS THE PROPOSED SETBACK, WHICH IS 160 FOOT INCREASED A 300 FEET, WITHIN WHICH BUILDINGS COULD BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF THIS A BUILDING WOULD BE PROHIBITIVE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: SO, I GUESS, MY QUESTION TO BE DIRECT IS THAT IT IS, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE OTHER ONE TO DO ANY BUILDING ON THAT PROPERTY RIGHT THERE.

STEVEN WRABEL: I WOULD SAY THE THE SUMMARY ANSWER IS YES, COULD THERE BE PASSIVE RECREATION WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT AS A USE SO COULD SOMEONE PUT A SMALL GARDEN OR I GUESS A FENCE OR SOME SOME NEW PLANTINGS I THINK THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: PROPERTY IS IT IS, I GUESS, IMPLICIT IN THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT THAT YOU'VE PROPOSED BECAUSE THE SETBACK.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: IS 160 YARDS, WHICH COMPRISES ALMOST ALL OF THE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: OF THAT CORNER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IT'S 300 FEET.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND IT IS EXPLAINED IN THE TEXT AMENDMENT IT'S ALREADY IN BLACK AND WHITE AND LITTLE.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW ALREADY WRITTEN OUT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RIGHT IT'S OBVIOUSLY THE LAW THAT WOULD BE THE LAW.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: YEAH IS THAT THEY COULD NOT BUILD IN THAT AREA RIGHT YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JUST NATHAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THANKS FOR THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT THAT LIGHT BLUE LINE, THEN, IS THAT WHERE'S THAT IN RELATION TO THERE'S A CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT RUNS ACROSS THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY THERE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS THAT ROUGHLY WHERE THAT BLUE LINE IS OR IS THE CHAIN LINK FENCE IN FRONT OF IT OR BEHIND IT.

STEVEN WRABEL: ANDY ARE YOU ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE CHAIN LINK FENCES IN RELATION TO THIS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I KNOW THAT IT'S A ONE PART IT'S DONE BY THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE WATER AREAS, BUT THEN IT JOGS BACK DEEP INTO THE PROPERTY.

ANDREW TUNG: YEAH THE CHAIN LINK FENCE IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT ON THE DIAGONAL SO IT'S ABOUT 240 FEET, TO GREATER THAN THAT, AS IT GOES TOWARDS SCHOOL SO IT'S IT'S IT'S ROUGHLY THAT DISTANCE YES.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: AND JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THAT AREA CAN RETAINING PONDS ARE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES BE INCLUDED IN THAT AREA.

ANDREW TUNG: NO IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, EXCEPT FOR PERHAPS A WALKWAY BUT NO ROADWAYS ARE PARKING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK THEY WERE ALREADY IS RETAINING AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: VERY.

ANDREW TUNG: TANGIBLE AREA YES.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MARK THERE ON THE DIAGRAM.

ANDREW TUNG: THAT'S.

ANDREW TUNG: VEGETATED BASIN AND THOSE WOULD BE VEGETATED BASIS WOULD BE PERMITTED, YES.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE CHAIN LINK FENCE IS CLOSER TO THE SIDEWALK THAN THE CURRENT SETBACK OR AROUND THE SAME OR FURTHER IN.

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ANDREW TUNG: IT'S A LITTLE CLOSER AS IT GETS CLOSER TO THE CORNER IT'S ON A DIAGONAL SO IT'S NOT NOT PARALLEL TO THESE LINES THAT ARE DRAWN TO THEM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, SO THIS WHOLE SETBACK IS BEHIND THAT FENCE THAT'S.

ANDREW TUNG: THAT'S CORRECT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, THANK YOU, YES.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: IN OTHER WORDS, JOSH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH I GET IT.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: I MEAN, BUT LET'S JUST SAY IT OUT LOUD THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, SO THE CHAIN LINK FENCE WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: MAKES THIS AREA SMALLER THAN IT WILL ACTUALLY BE IF WE'RE USING THE CHAIN LINK FENCES ALIGN RIGHT.

STEVEN WRABEL: CORRECT INCORRECT THE THE GREEN PRESERVE, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT, OR BUFFER AREA OR STEP BACK AREA WOULD MEET OR EXCEED THE CHAIN LINK FENCE RATHER THAN TRINKET IT WOULD PROTECT EVEN GREATER AREA.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH I WOULD SAY IT'S THE OPPOSITE, IT DOESN'T SHRINK IT IT ENLARGES IT.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: MAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND IS THERE ANY PROVISION NOW FOR PUBLIC ACCESS RIGHT NOW THERE IS PUBLIC ACCESS IN THAT SPACE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO THESE THERE'S.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO JOSH AND I THINK PEOPLE CAN LIKE TO FINISH THE QUESTION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JULIE AND THEN YOU CAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ANSWER IT IF STEVE DOESN'T WANT TO ANSWER.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT MY UNDERSTANDING, RIGHT NOW IS THAT THERE IS INFORMAL PUBLIC ACCESS TO A PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY ON THE OSBORNE ROAD SIDE OF THE CHAIN LINK FENCE IS THERE ANY PROVISION FOR CONTINUING THAT OR IS THAT NOT PART OF THIS NOW.

STEVEN WRABEL: SO THERE'S NO SPECIFIC LANGUAGE PERTAINING TO CREATION OF A PUBLIC SPACE, THOUGH PASSIVE RECREATION IS PERMITTED.

STEVEN WRABEL: AND STEVEN WRABEL: I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY AND CREATE A POTENTIAL NEW PSEUDO PUBLIC USE.

STEVEN WRABEL: I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE INTERESTED IN AND HAVING YOU KNOW PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER COMING IN, BUT IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY CONTEMPLATED IN THE ZONING WHICH IS PARTICULAR TO THE SENIOR LIVING USE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE JUST SORT SO THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE WHEN YOU SAY PASSIVE RECREATION, IN THAT, IN THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT THAT MEANS IS PASSIVE RECREATION FOR THE OSBORNE HOME RESIDENTS IT'S NOT PASSIVE RECREATION FOR THEM THAT THEY HAVE BEEN FORMALLY SOME OF THEM MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN USING IT JUST SO THERE'S CLARITY AROUND IT THAT'S ALL.

STEVEN WRABEL: WELL, TO CLARIFY IT FURTHER, YOU KNOW CURRENTLY IS DULY NOTED IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN ALLOWED ACCESS TO SO.

STEVEN WRABEL: YOU KNOW, BARRING ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, I IMAGINE THE OSBORNE WOULD CONTINUE TO ACT AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND WORK WITH THE PUBLIC AND CONTINUE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT THEY HAVE NOW THERE'S NOTHING EXCLUSIONARY IN THE ZONING I'VE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RIGHT NOW THAT'S FINE, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT THE TEXT AMENDMENT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS WHEN PEOPLE SEE PASSIVE RECREATION, THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT IF YOU'RE ON THE NEIGHBOR SIDE OF THE FENCE THAT DOESN'T MEAN FOR YOU THE NEIGHBOR.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT MEANS FOR THE OSBORNE THE OSBORNE MAY CONTINUE TO ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE TEXT AMENDMENT MEANS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO MIGHT HAVE READ THAT TO THINK OH THAT'S FOR US YAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OR NOT OR THAT'S FOR US, OH NO, WHATEVER THEIR THOUGHTS ARE I'M NOT I'M NOT, CAN I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR IT'S PASSIVE RECREATION, IS NOT THE SAME THING AS WHAT THE PUBLIC MAY OR MAY NOT BE DOING THEIR INFORMALLY, NOW THAT THE OSBORNE MAYBE PERMITTING AND MAY CONTINUE TO PERMIT FOR YOUNG.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW STEVENS POINT THERE'S BEEN THIS SORT OF NEIGHBORLY AGREEMENT OR WHATEVER, BUT I I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF SOMEBODY WERE TO THINK THAT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I MEAN LITERALLY THIS HAPPENED TO ME ONCE I CAME HOME AND SOMEBODY WAS SWINGING ON MY TREE SWING THAT DO NOT LIVE HERE AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY WEIRD.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU DON'T GO INTO SOMEONE ELSE'S PRIVATE PROPERTY AND START.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PLAYING ON THEIR PROPERTY RIGHT, SO I DO THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, RESPECT THE FACT THAT, ALTHOUGH THEY'VE BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR THIS IS THEIR PROPERTY AND FOR SAFETY FOR THEIR RESIDENCE FOR JUST THEIR OWN BE ABLE TO MANAGE THEIR OWN FACILITY IT'S UP TO THEM, YOU KNOW.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHO CAN BE ON PROPERTY YOU.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: KNOW BUT I'M FINISHING NOW.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT, I THINK THAT I AM VERY, VERY HESITANT TO GET INTO A PLACE WHERE A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER IS EXPECTED TO ALLOW HIS OR HER PROPERTY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TO LET THERE BE USAGE BY ANOTHER PARTY THAT IS THEIR PROPERTY AND SO IT'S UP TO THE OSBORNE AND I WOULD I WOULD NEVER SUPPORT A MANDATE, YOU KNOW THAT THEY THAT ANY HOMEOWNER HAS TO SEE THEIR PROPERTY FOR THE AMUSEMENT OF OTHERS, I MEAN THAT THAT'S THAT SEEMS FAR FETCHED.

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JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT WHEN I WAS ASKING MR EVIL WAS WHETHER THAT PROPERTY WHETHER THE INTENTION OF THEIR TEXT AMENDMENT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BECAUSE THERE IS BEEN INFORMAL USE WITH THE OSBORNE HAS GRACIOUSLY PERMITTED FOR YEARS THAT THAT GREEN SPACE A PORTION OF THAT GREEN SPACE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS SOMETHING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN ALLOWED INFORMALLY TO WALK ON, AND YOU KNOW BE WITH THEIR KIDS ON AND DO WHATEVER THEY DO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THAT IT HAS BEEN NEIGHBORLY WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM SOMEBODY COMING ON YOUR SWING SET THAT YOU HAVEN'T SAID HEY YOU'RE WELCOME TO USE MY SWING SET.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I JUST WANTED CLARITY THAT WHAT THE TEXT IN THE AMENDMENT SAYS IT'S NOT CHANGING THE INFORMAL NATURE THAT, INSOFAR AS IT'S NOT FORMALIZING THAT IT IS SAYING THAT IS OUR PROPERTY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT IS FOR PASSIVE RECREATION AND IS, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN PASSIVE RECREATION MEANS FOR US AS A SENIOR LIVING AREA, NOT FOR YOU THE NEIGHBORS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHO, WE HAVE ALLOWED TO USE THAT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL DISCONTINUE OR WELL CONTINUED DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING, BUT THE TEXT AMENDMENT IS NOT ADDRESSING THAT QUESTION, WHICH I KNOW IT'S BEEN RAISED BY BY SOME PEOPLE AND JUST ASKING FOR THE CLARITY SO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT QUESTION IS FOR MR ABLE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: IT'S A GOOD QUESTION JOSH AND I'LL LET STEPHEN ANSWER IN ONE SECOND BECAUSE I GUESS AS A COMMISSIONER, OF RIDE TOWN PARK.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: WE TALKED ABOUT RIDE TOWN PARK BEING A PASSIVE PARK A LOT, AND SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THERE COULD BE CONFUSION THAT THIS PASSIVE RECREATION USAGE WHEN SOMEHOW INSINUATE THAT IT WAS FOR THE PUBLIC AND THE PAST OF USES FOR THE USE OF THE OSBORN RESIDENTS I'VE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: WALKED MY DOG BACK THERE RECENTLY, WHILE WAITING FOR BASEBALL GAMES TO FINISH AND I'VE NOTICED OTHER PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOGS AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH RESPECT TO THE INFORMAL USE JOSH THAT KIND OF STUFF.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH NEIGHBORS USE IT AND THEY HAVE ACCESS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE ACCESS AND SO FAR AS THERE'S A BARRIER PREVENTING THEM FROM USING IT, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE LAST ONE HASN'T.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ACTIVELY GOING OUT AND ASKED THEM NOT TO USE IT AND THAT'S THAT'S BETWEEN THE I WAS BORN IN THE NEIGHBORS BUT YES IT'S TO YOUR POINT THAT USE OF PASSIVE HAS A MEANING THAT'S PASSIVE RECREATION AND PEOPLE JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS IT'S WHAT IT DOESN'T MEAN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: RIGHT IF WE'RE ABLE IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WISH WISH DAD.

STEVEN WRABEL: I BELIEVE I'VE ADDRESSED THE QUESTION, BUT OUR INTENTION WAS TO CONTINUE TO PERMIT.

STEVEN WRABEL: THE POTENTIAL USE OF THE LAND BY THE OSBORNE OR POTENTIALLY ITS GUESTS OR INVITEES OR THE INFORMAL PUBLIC USE FOR WALKING AND QUIET RECREATION, THE IDEA BEING IF SOMEONE WERE LOCKED THE AREA WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME OUT AND SAY YOU'RE NOW VIOLATING OUR ZONING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, BUT THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S DISCRETIONARY AND WHICH IS FINE, I JUST WANT CLARITY AM I CORRECT THAT'S LIKE YOU COULD MOVE THE FENCE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IF YOU DECIDED TO BUILD A GARDEN THERE OR EXPAND THE ARBORETUM YOU CAN MOVE THAT CHAIN LINK FENCE OR CREATE A DIFFERENT BARRIER AND SAY NOW WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS FOR OUR PASSIVE RECREATION AND IT'S NOT FOR THE NEIGHBORS I MEAN YOU'VE ALWAYS HAD THAT RIGHT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I JUST WANTED CLARITY THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS HAVING THAT RIGHT CONTINUES UNDER THIS CORRECT OKAY, THANK YOU THAT'S THAT WAS WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MORE IMPORTANTLY, IS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING THERE THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT OPEN, AS IS AND THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY CHANGES, SO THE NEIGHBORS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WILL NOT SEE ANY CHANGE, THEY WILL USE THE LAND THEY WILL ENJOY THE BEAUTY, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE LANDSCAPE, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO JUST GO THERE TODAY ABOUT EXACTLY THE.

SAME THIS IS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TO VISUALLY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SEE IT VISUALLY THEY'LL SEE ANYTHING AND VISUALLY THEY'LL ENJOY THE BEAUTY AND THEIR ABILITY TO WALK ON IT AND USE IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE DISCRETIONARY WHICH I'M NOT I'M JUST KIND OF FIND ME AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE DISCRETIONARY ON THE PART OF THE OSBORNE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TONIGHT I HEAR US GOING AROUND IN A CIRCLE HERE AND AND I THINK WE CAN MOVE ON.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL FOR THE US BORN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: GROUP THEN AGAIN I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, AGAIN, SUBJECT TO OUR THREE MINUTE CONVENTION WITH ONCE EVERYBODY'S HAD THAT CHANCE, WITH THE OPPORTUNITY FOR REPEATS IF PEOPLE WISH.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO KRISTIN IF YOU COULD SEE IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN SPEAKING AND IF PEOPLE COULD PLEASE GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS.

KRISTEN WILSON: OR SPEAKER IS ROBERT NOVEMBER.

ROBERT NOVEMBER: I'M ROBERT NOVEMBER 4314 FEEL ROAD.

ROBERT NOVEMBER: HI ROBERT TONIGHT FOR MYSELF, AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE OSBORNE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING THE HUNDREDS OF RYE RESIDENTS OR INTO AN INDEPENDENT LIVING AT THE OSBORNE.

ROBERT NOVEMBER: I WILL GIVE A BRIEF RECAP, OF WHAT I'VE SAID PREVIOUSLY, BUT I WANT FIRST REMIND THE BOARD THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT OF THE ZONING VARIATION SIGNED BY 120 RESIDENTS AND LETTER SOME OTHERS WHO PREFER TO WRITE INDIVIDUALLY.

ROBERT NOVEMBER: FOR US OSBORNE RESIDENTS RIGHT IS OUR HOME AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE DEPENDS ON THE ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF THE OSBORNE.

ROBERT NOVEMBER: IN THIS INCREASINGLY COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR CONTINUOUS CARE COMMUNITIES, IT MUST UPGRADE ITS FACILITIES AND TO GROW, TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO.

ROBERT NOVEMBER: THE COMPETITION IS INCREASING, IF WE IN THE US BORN ON THEO ROAD RECEIVED PROMOTIONS FROM NEW COMMUNITIES, YOU MUST BE GETTING THEM ALSO FROM NEW PLACES IN PURCHASE WHITE PLAINS RIVERDALE AND JUST THIS WEEK FROM NEW ROCHELLE.

ROBERT NOVEMBER: AS RYE OSBORNE RESIDENTS, WE HAVE RECEIVED FRANKLY GRATIFYING LEVEL OF SUPPORT FROM THE OSBORNE.

ROBERT NOVEMBER: AND WE ARE SURE THAT THE NECESSARY EXPANSION WILL BE DONE IN A WAY THAT WILL PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF THE RESIDENTS AND OF THE NEIGHBORS.

ROBERT NOVEMBER: THE OSBORNE IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE VERY WELL MAINTAINED AND WE'RE ALSO CONFIDENT THAT ANY EXPANSION, WE DONE IN A WAY TO MAINTAIN THAT BEAUTY FOR OUR AND THE RIDE COMMUNITIES BENEFIT, THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: HELLO PEARSON.

BILL PEARSON: THANK YOU, CHRISTIAN HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS I'M BILL PEARSON LIVE AT THREE HOLLY LANE AND RYE.

BILL PEARSON: MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN RIDE FOR 30 YEARS OR THREE SONS WERE RAISED HERE AND ATTENDED RIGHT SCHOOLS I'VE BEEN A BOARD MEMBER OF THE RIGHT NATURE CENTER AND A LITTLE LEAGUE AND YOU SOCCER COACH.

BILL PEARSON: OF THE TRUSTEE OF THE OSBORNE FOR 14 YEARS AND I'M THE PAST, CHAIR OF THE OSBORNE BOARD MY MOTHER WAS A FOUR YEAR RESIDENT OF THE PAVILION WAS BORING SKILLED NURSING CENTER.

BILL PEARSON: ON BEHALF OF MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS DONORS STAFF AND MORE THAN 400 RESIDENTS AND VOTERS WHO CALL THE OSBORNE THEIR HOME WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE PENDING SENIOR LIVING ON THE TEXTING THEM A PROPOSAL.

BILL PEARSON: OVER THE PAST AND NEARLY FOUR YEARS SINCE 2019 THE OSBORNE'S COLLABORATED WITH THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION THE CITY COUNCIL.

BILL PEARSON: OUR RESIDENTS OUR NEIGHBORS AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE RIGHT COMMUNITY TO REVISE AND REFINE THIS IS ONLY TEXT AMENDMENT PROPOSAL.

BILL PEARSON: TO BALANCE OUR NEEDS TO REFRESH AND AND NEWER CAMPUS AND EXPAND OUR HOME CARE SERVICES AND TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS AND CONCERNS OF THE RIGHT COMMUNITY.

BILL PEARSON: AS A RESULT, OUR PROPOSAL NOW INCLUDES MANY ELEMENTS THAT MATTER TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO US, INCLUDING.

BILL PEARSON: ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AND SPEEDING REQUIREMENTS INTENDED TO PRIORITIZE OH OPEN SPACE ELEMENTS AND ENSURE THAT THE OSBORNE MAINTAINS ITS BEAUTIFUL GREEN CAMPUS.

BILL PEARSON: INCREASE SETBACKS BEYOND WHAT IS CURRENTLY REQUIRED THAT WILL PRESERVE THE SIGNIFICANT GREEN SPACE AT THE CORNER OF OSBORNE AND SEAL ROSE FSS BEEN DISCUSSED AND GREATER LIMITATIONS ON BUILDING HEIGHTS, THEN WHAT IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED AND WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

BILL PEARSON: IF THERE'S ONLY TEXT AMENDMENT IS APPROVED THE OSBORNE WILL CREATE A SITE PLAN AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY FOR FOR FOR FOR REVIEW PUBLIC INPUT AND HEARINGS UPDATING AND EVENTUAL VOTE.

BILL PEARSON: THROUGHOUT THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS THE OSBORNE WILL COLLABORATE WITH WITH INTERESTED STAKEHOLDERS TO ADDRESS CONSTRUCTION RELATED QUESTIONS SUCH AS VEHICLE PARKING NOISE CONTROL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND TREE PRESERVATION.

BILL PEARSON: IT'S BEEN NEARLY 25 YEARS SINCE THE BOARD HAS EXPANDED AND UPGRADED DISABILITIES TO PROVIDE THE HIGHEST QUALITY CARE TO OUR RESIDENTS AND TO OFFER THE BEST WORK ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

BILL PEARSON: SO THERE'S ONLY NOT BE APPROVED THE OSBORNE WILL BE AT RISK OF SIGNIFICANTLY FALLING BEHIND REGIONAL COMPETITORS AND INDUSTRY TRENDS.

BILL PEARSON: WHEN THE OSBORNE LAST RENEWED OUR CAMPUS WE WERE AT THE VANGUARD AND SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITIES.

BILL PEARSON: WITH A PLANNING FLEXIBILITY THIS THIS TEXT AMENDMENT PROVIDES, WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE BEST SENIOR LIVING EXPERIENCE THAT CAN BE FOUND ANYWHERE AND TO CONTINUE TO BE A MAJOR PART OF THE RIGHT COMMUNITY.

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BILL PEARSON: AS A NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION, WE ARE COMMITTED TO THE EXCELLENCE, WE PROVIDE FOR THE LONG TERM, ANY SURPLUS CREATED BY OUR OPERATIONS IS USED TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE.

BILL PEARSON: THE SERVICES INCLUDE MORE THAN $3 MILLION ANNUALLY AND SERVICES TO SENIORS IN NEED IN THE COMMUNITY, BOTH ON AND OFF OUR CAMPUS.

KRISTEN WILSON: TIME IS.

BILL PEARSON: YOUR ANSWER OKAY, SO MY MOM I BELIEVE THAT THE STRUCTURE, WE HAVE HERE MEETS OUR NEEDS AND THE CITY'S NEEDS WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY IN THE FUTURE, THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: THANK YOU ALICE MOTEL.

ALICE MODEL: HELLO I'M ALICE MOTO I LIVE IT TO FOR US TO FEEL ROAD I'M A RESIDENT OF THE OSBORNE FOR 12 YEARS.

ALICE MODEL: I'VE LIVED IN THE LAW IN THE SOUTH SHORE COMMUNITIES MY WHOLE LIFE I GREW UP IN NEW ROCHELLE LIVED IN LARCHMONT FOR 42 YEARS AND HAVE BEEN HERE AT THE OSBORNE EVER SINCE.

ALICE MODEL: I, I WOULD LIKE PEOPLE TO BE AWARE THAT WERE JUST ASKING AT THIS POINT FOR ZONING VARIANCE AND THEN ALL THE DETAILS FOR THE PLANNING WILL BE HANDLED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT'S DONE IN EVERY MUNICIPALITY THAT I KNOW ABOUT.

ALICE MODEL: AND I I IN REFERENCE TO TRAFFIC PROBLEMS, I KNOW I NEVER GO DOWN OSBORNE ROAD ANYWHERE NEAR THREE O'CLOCK BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU JUST CAN'T DO THAT, SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT ANY IN ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WILL BE AT THAT CORNER, SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM FOR CHILDREN.

ALICE MODEL: GOING TO THE SCHOOL.

ALICE MODEL: I'VE BEEN PART OF THE COMMUNITY ALSO I HAVE VOLUNTEERED AT THE NATURE CENTER RIGHT BEFORE COVEN.

ALICE MODEL: I HAVE A WONDERFUL PEN PAL WITH WHOM I'VE BEEN WRITING AS PART OF OUR INTERGENERATIONAL PROGRAM HERE AND A FEW WEEKS AGO I HAD THE PLEASURE OF INVITING HER TO THIS CAMPUS.

ALICE MODEL: AND WE TOOK A WALK IN THE RAIN ON THE CAMPUS AND SHE THOUGHT IT LOOKED JUST LIKE A COLLEGE CAMPUS I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY CUTE.

ALICE MODEL: PLEASE PASS THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THEN WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THE OTHER THINGS AS THEY COME ALONG THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: MARJORIE MILLER.

MARJORIE MILLER: MARJORIE MILLER, I HAVE A HOUSE AT 5024 SEAL ROAD I'VE BEEN HERE ONE YEAR AND LIVED IN SCARSDALE FOR 70 YEARS.

MARJORIE MILLER: AS A RESIDENT OF THIS PLACE, I AM ALWAYS CONTINUALLY SURPRISED AND PLEASED AND HOW THEY CARE FOR RESIDENTS STAFF AND PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY, I THINK THAT THEY'RE JUST FABULOUS NEIGHBORS.

MARJORIE MILLER: BUT I DO WANT TO ADDRESS ONE OTHER THING AT THE LAST MEETING I OVERHEARD SOME OF THE PARENTS TALKING ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

MARJORIE MILLER: I'M A FORMER NURSERY SCHOOL TEACHER AND DIRECTOR OF A NURSERY SCHOOL AND A SOCIAL WORKER, AND ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT.

MARJORIE MILLER: THESE KINDS OF BUILDINGS AND SITES AND EXCITING KINDS OF THINGS THAT GO ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITIES FOR CHILDREN TO LEARN ABOUT OTHER KINDS OF PLACES.

MARJORIE MILLER: THEY CAN LEARN ABOUT PLUMBING THEY LEARN ABOUT GROWING THEY LEARN ABOUT BUILDING AND MEASUREMENTS.

MARJORIE MILLER: THERE WERE HARD HATS PROBABLY IF THEY WANT TO COME BY AND LOOK AT THE PLACE, SO I JUST WANTED TO ASSURE PARENTS THAT I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERN.

MARJORIE MILLER: BUT IT CAN BE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY IF YOU REFRAME IT AND THINK OF IT AS A WONDERFUL WAY TO BE NEW NEIGHBORS WITH PEOPLE WHO WE'VE BEEN FRIENDLY WITH BEFORE.

MARJORIE MILLER: YESTERDAY, THERE WAS A FLAG DAY HERE AND SEVERAL OF THE CHILDREN FROM THE RISE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND FROM OSBORNE CAME HERE TO PLAY THEIR INSTRUMENTS AND SING.

MARJORIE MILLER: IT WAS WONDERFUL AND THE RESIDENTS JUST ENJOYED THEM SO MUCH AND THE CHILDREN ENJOYED IT SO MUCH AND THERE'S AN INTERGENERATIONAL FEELING OF NEIGHBORHOOD UGLINESS AND I THINK THAT WILL CONTINUE AND ONLY BE BENEFITED EVERYBODY, THANK YOU.

CLIFFORD DAVIS: GOOD EVENING, CAN YOU HEAR ME.

CHRIS DAVIS.

KRISTEN WILSON: YES.

CLIFFORD DAVIS: YES, I AM AN ATTORNEY TO UH TO MAMARONECK AVENUE WHITE PLAINS NEW YORK 10601 I REPRESENT A VERY LARGE GROUP OF FAMILIES.

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CLIFFORD DAVIS: THAT THE NAMES AND PLUS THERE ARE SOME MORE THERE SET FORTH IN MY DAY APRIL 4 2022 EARLIER SUBMISSION I'LL BE SHORT AND RIGHT TO THE POINT, IN THE SPIRIT OF COOPERATION, COOPERATION.

CLIFFORD DAVIS: WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THEY'RE BEING A GERMAN OF THIS APPLICATION UNTIL THE FALL, SO THAT THE CITY AND THE OSBORNE CAN WORK WITH MY CLIENTS AND ALL THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

CLIFFORD DAVIS: WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE WILL BE A ZONE CHANGE APPROVED BY THIS BOARD, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE RIGHT.

CLIFFORD DAVIS: THE OSBORNE HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 100 YEARS WE DON'T SEE THE URGENCY.

CLIFFORD DAVIS: CEO ANDERSON HAS REPEATEDLY ADVISE THIS BOARD THAT HE IS NOT SURE WHAT HE INTENDS TO DO WITH THE SITE THAT HE WANTS TO DO STUDIES MARKETING.

CLIFFORD DAVIS: ANALYSIS, SO WE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE URGENCY TO DO IT AND BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND.

CLIFFORD DAVIS: AND IN WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON THIS YEAR, WE THINK IT WOULD BE IN EVERYBODY'S BEST INTEREST TO IN SPIRIT OF COOPERATION AND COLLABORATION.

CLIFFORD DAVIS: WORK SO THAT, WHEN THE IT COMES TIME FOR THE APPLICATION ON THAT WILL BE A LITTLE LESS HOSTILITY BETWEEN THE PARTIES, EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER AND THEN, WHEN THE APPLICATION COMES BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD FOR A VOTE.

CLIFFORD DAVIS: PEOPLE COULD SIGN OFF ON IT, SO I WOULD ASK AGAIN THAT THE BOARD.

CLIFFORD DAVIS: ACT WITH CAUTION THAT THERE IS NO RUSH NOBODY HAS STATED THAT THERE WAS A RUSH.

CLIFFORD DAVIS: EVERY COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE, AND THIS IS A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE ALWAYS PRETENDS IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING TODAY THE SKY WILL FALL WELL THE SKY IS NOT GOING TO FALL.

CLIFFORD DAVIS: AND WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU USE CAUTION AND WHY NOT HAVE EVERYBODY MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS MORE AT THE SITE AND EVERYBODY WORK TOWARDS A RESOLUTION, RATHER THAN THERE BEING CONTINUED TENSION, THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: MY GOOD SHARING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WELL, MY.

MIKE BUCCIERI: YEAH HOW YOU DOING HI FOLKS IT'S MIKE DO CHEERY FROM WATER'S EDGE 57 WATER'S EDGE RIGHT NEW YORK, AND IF YOU DON'T LIVE A WATER'S EDGE AND RONNIE YOUR YOU DON'T REALLY LIVE IN RYE.

MIKE BUCCIERI: I JUST WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR PRIOR TO MEMORIAL DAY, I HAD REACHED OUT TO THE MAYOR, BECAUSE THE AMERICAN FLAG AT THE POLICE STATION.

MIKE BUCCIERI: WAS TORN IN STUCK TO THE BUILDING, IT WAS IN DISARRAY I REACHED OUT TO THE MAYOR, YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH TO RESPOND BACK TO ME, YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH TO GET SOMEBODY TO REACT TO REPLACE THE AMERICAN FLAG AT THE RIDE POLICE STATION.

MIKE BUCCIERI: AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT, BUT I WANTED TO FURTHER EXTEND MY THOUGHTS ABOUT TO RIDE POLICE STATION AND GREG I REACHED OUT TO YOU AND YOU KINDLY EMAILED BACK TO ME THANK YOU.

MIKE BUCCIERI: THERE, THERE IS NOBODY ELSE WHO WILL STAND IN FRONT OF ME IF A BULLET WAS COMING MY WAY, EXCEPT A POLICE OFFICER AND, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE OFFICES THAT.

MIKE BUCCIERI: YOU GUYS WALK IN WHEREVER THEY MAY BE, THEY MAY HAVE PRETTY DOORS, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR RIGHT POLICE STATION, THE DISARRAY THE VISUAL DISARRAY, OF ALL THE WOODWORK IN THE PAINTING, AND IN THE CONDITION OF THE POLICE STATION IT'S HORRIBLE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MIKE MIKE IF, IF I MAY WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE OSBORNE THERE IS A LATER OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO BE HEARD ON OTHER TOPICS AND I WILL CONCEDE YOUR POINT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE POLICE STATION REFRESHED AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO JOIN US AGAIN LATER IN THE AGENDA, THEN WE CAN HAVE A GREATER CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, BUT WE HAVE HAVE MANY PEOPLE NOW LOOKING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PARTICULAR PUBLIC HEARING.

MIKE BUCCIERI: WHEN WOULD BE GOOD FOR FOR ME TO JOIN BACK IN AT ANOTHER DATE MAYOR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WELL, AFTER I THINK WE'LL BE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC FOR QUITE SOME TIME ON THIS TOPIC, AND THEN WE HAVE.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ONE OTHER TOPIC THAT ALSO MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, SO YOU CAN YES JOIN US ON ANOTHER DAY OR YOU CAN JUST FOLLOW OUR OUR PROGRESS VIRTUALLY AND WHEN WE GET TO TWO TOPICS DOWN THE ROAD TO THE TOPIC CALLED RESIDENTS MAY BE HEARD, THEN WE WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU.

MIKE BUCCIERI: LOTS OF LOVE, I APPRECIATE IT COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, I HAVE A PASSION FOR THE POLICE AND THE POLICE STATION AND THE BEAUTY VARIETY, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR OFFER MAYOR.

MIKE BUCCIERI: I'LL BE AROUND AND LISTENING THANK YOU ALL, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: DANIEL PINK AND YELLOW DONE, THOUGH.

DANIELAARREDONDO: I KRISTEN SORRY THAT I, YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO PRONOUNCE MY NAME FOLLOWED.

DANIELAARREDONDO: SO I LEAVE AT FIVE OSBORNE ROAD, I THINK THE COUNCIL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME FOR YOUR DEDICATION, THIS IS NOT AN EASY TOPIC, YOU KNOW I APPRECIATE.

DANIELAARREDONDO: THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPOKEN ON BEHALF OF THE OSBORNE, BUT WE, THE NEIGHBORS STILL HAVE SOME CONCERNS, I MEAN I APPRECIATE IT MATT MR ANDERSON THE CHANGES THAT YOU MADE, MR RABBLE AND SO FORTH.

DANIELAARREDONDO: AND I THINK THIS PART OF THE PROCESS IS VERY CRUCIAL, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD COLLABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE AND FIND A COMMON GROUND BETWEEN.

DANIELAARREDONDO: YOUR WANTS AND OUR NEEDS, WE KNOW THAT YOU DO WANT TO EXPAND AND YOU DO WANT TO GROW, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE REALLY HAVE.

DANIELAARREDONDO: NUMEROUS CONCERNS AND I BELIEVE I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN COME TO TERMS IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER IN A VERY PRODUCTIVE AND EFFICIENT MANNER, SO THE REST OF THE PROCESS CAN GO SMOOTHER.

DANIELAARREDONDO: I SAY IS THAT PART OF THE CHANGES THAT I SAW I SAW THE THREE THE THREE STORIES, BUT I WAS HOPING THAT MAYBE HE WOULD NOT BE ONLY ONE BUILDING THE ONE THAT YOU KNOW WOULD HAVE THAT.

DANIELAARREDONDO: THAT CHANGE, HE WAS HE WAS YOU KNOW WHEN YOU FIRST SHARED IT, HE WAS HE WAS REALLY BEAUTIFUL TO HEAR, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE NEIGHBORS NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE.

DANIELAARREDONDO: THAT THAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THIS AND REACHES US, IT IS NOW, BUT THE REST DEAL ARE VERY TALL BUILDINGS RIGHT NEXT TO OUR SCHOOL IT'S A VERY BIG CHANGE NOW I HAD A SPECIFIC QUESTION, MR ANDERSON YOU MENTIONED LAST TIME THAT THERE WILL BE AT 80 RESIDENTS IN THE INDEPENDENT LIVING CORRECT.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: TOTAL OF ABOUT WHEN WE DID IN PROJECT TO BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE AN ESTIMATE FOR HIM SO THAT WOULD BE ABOUT ANOTHER HUNDRED AND 30 PEOPLE ARE UNITS WITH SPOUSES THAT COULD COME TO ABOUT 150.

DANIELAARREDONDO: SO, IN TOTAL, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE LIVING IN THAT AREA WOULD BE 150 IS THAT CORRECT.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: NO THERE'S IF YOU IF YOU SEE ON IT, AND AGAIN THIS IS, I JUST WANT TO REPEAT, THIS IS AN ILLUSTRATIVE DIAGRAM THAT WE TRY TO PUT TOGETHER TO ANSWER MANY DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: ABOUT HEIGHT AND THINGS IN DIFFERENT AREAS SO BUT, AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ONE THING IS, I KNOW I EXPLAINED THIS PRIOR BUT OUR HEALTH CARE IS LOCATED OVER TOWARDS OUR SKILLED IN OUR SYSTEM LIVING, WHICH IS IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER THAT ILLUSTRATE A DIAGRAM AND YOU SEE A FOUR STORY.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: BUILDING AND ILLUSTRATOR DIAGRAM THERE, THAT IS WHERE THOSE ADDITIONAL SORT OF 50 OR SO PEOPLE WOULD BE WITHIN THAT AREA.

DANIELAARREDONDO: SO I GUESS KRISTEN I'LL GO BACK TO THE TO THE LINE BECAUSE THEY HAD SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ABOUT LETTER I IN THE IN THE STONING CHANGE AND SOME NUMBERS, SO I GUESS OR I, IF I CAN USE EXTRA THREE MINUTES OR I CAN GO TO THE BACK OF THE LINE WHATEVER IS THE MOST EFFICIENT.

KRISTEN WILSON: I THINK, ACCORDING TO OUR TYPICAL PROTOCOL WILL GO TO THE END OF THE LINE AND YOU CAN USE ANOTHER THREE MINUTES AFTER OTHERS HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.

DANIELAARREDONDO: OKAY, SO I WILL KEEP ON THAT QUESTION, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO RAISING MY HAND AGAIN, THANK YOU.

STEVEN WRABEL: JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL AND WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH WHATEVER FORMAT YOU DEEM FIT.

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STEVEN WRABEL: TYPICALLY, MY UNDERSTANDING OF PUBLIC HEARING IS THAT THE COMMENTS ARE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCIL AND THEN AT THE END WE'RE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND.

STEVEN WRABEL: PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF A THREE MINUTE TIMING RESTRICTION WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO ALLOW THE SPEAKERS TO GET ALL THEIR QUESTIONS OUT TO THE COUNCIL AND THEN WE'RE OR WOULD YOU PREFER IT BE A LESS FORMAL QA DIRECTLY TO THE APPLICANT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK STEVE THAT WE SHOULD WE SHOULD PURSUE USUAL PROCEDURE MATT WAS WAS KIND ENOUGH TO JUMP IN AND AND RESPOND BUT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: GET ALLOWING PEOPLE TO GET THEIR QUESTIONS OUT AND THEN HAVING THE OSBORNE PICK UP WHEN ALL THE QUESTIONS, WHO ARE OUT, I THINK, WOULD PROBABLY BE MOST HELPFUL TO EVERYONE.

STEVEN WRABEL: OKAY, UNDERSTOOD, THANK YOU.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: WELL YEAH, I GUESS, I JUST WANT TO CHIME IN I AM REALLY APPRECIATE EFFICIENCY BUT I, I WONDER IF, MAYBE IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: THE WHAT I'M HEARING FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS IS THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT AND.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: WHAT I JUST WANT TO SAY BRIEFLY ABOUT THAT IS THAT WE ARE LISTENING TO EVERYTHING WE ARE HEARING YOU THE OSBORNE IS HEARING.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: BUT THE MAIN THE WAY THAT IT'S GONE BECAUSE WE'RE ON ZOOM BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO BE IN PERSON IS THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN A REAL DIALOGUE, AND I WONDER IF.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: IF EVEN IF MR EVIL DOESN'T OBJECT IF WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE ANSWER QUESTIONS AS PEOPLE ASK THEM WITHIN THEIR THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT UM YOU KNOW PEOPLE CAN BE CONCISE, JUST SO THAT THERE'S SOME FORM OF DIALOGUE, TO ME IT FEELS MORE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: MORE EFFECTIVE I UNDERSTAND IF OTHER PEOPLE DON'T AGREE, BUT I.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE USEFUL I THINK IT'S REALLY HARD TO SORT OF KEEP TRACK OF THE QUESTION ANSWER WHEN WE'RE GETTING 100 QUESTIONS AND THEN RESPONDING SO ANYWAY JUST MY FEEDBACK.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OUT OF THEIR ACCOUNTS WITH YOU.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T DISAGREE WITH EMILY I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S GOOD, BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES THE ANSWER TO ONE QUESTION MIGHT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW INVOKE ANOTHER QUESTION OR A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, BUT PERHAPS WE CAN EVEN JUST YOU KNOW.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LOOK TO THE COMMUNITY TO SAY HEY YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO ENGAGE IN A DIALOGUE HERE OR IT'S OKAY, IF YOU ANSWER THIS LATER I JUST WHAT WE DO HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF IS IS MAKING SURE WE DON'T GET CAUGHT IN A 10 MINUTE CONVERSATION THAT PUSHES OTHER PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN OFF THE TABLE, BECAUSE IT, IT WILL GET LATE.

KRISTEN WILSON: OTHERS.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I AGREE WITH EMILY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY LET'S DO IT THAT WAY.

KRISTEN WILSON: ROD ROULETTE.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: HI I'M RIDE ROULETTE I RESIGNED IT TO ZERO TO STEWARD DRIVE NEW ROCHELLE WE'RE ALMOST 30 YEARS I'VE KNOWN AND HIGHLY ADMIRED THE OSBORNE.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: I'M PROUD TO CURRENTLY SERVICE CHAIR BOARD OF TRUSTEES I DEVOTED MY CAREER TO FINANCING LIFE PLAN COMMUNITIES, LIKE THE OSBORNE.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: OUR COMMUNITIES PURPOSE IS TO NURTURE WELL BEING DEFINED AS WELLNESS IN SEVEN DIMENSIONS SOCIAL OCCUPATIONAL SPIRITUAL PHYSICAL, INTELLECTUAL ENVIRONMENTAL AND EMOTIONAL.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: WE ENRICH THE LIVES OF HUNDREDS OF INDEPENDENT RESIDENTIAL AND PROVIDE CARE FOR HUNDREDS MORE WHO NO LONGER LIVE INDEPENDENTLY.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: WE LEAD WITH OUR HEART VALUING COMPASSION ALTRUISM AND EMPATHY WE SUPPORT $3 MILLION PER YEAR RESIDENTS AND PATIENTS ON AND OFF CAMPUS WHO DEPLETE THEIR RESOURCES.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: WE BELIEVE IN QUALITY OF LIFE, RESPECT AND DIGNITY FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL THESE VALUES AND BELIEFS DRIVE OUR BEHAVIORS AND SHAPE OUR PLANS BOTH SHORT AND LONG RANGE.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: OSBORNE SLIME CHARITY AND RESILIENCE REFLECT OUR ABILITY TO EVOLVE, WE BEGAN IN 1908 CREATING A COMMUNITY FOR INDEPENDENT WOMEN AGED 65 PLUS WITH LIMITED OR NO RESOURCES.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: EARLY LEADERS COMPLETED THE ORIGINAL CAMPUS IN 1934 FOR SEVERAL DECADES, THE OSBORNE REMAINED STATIC.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: FORTUNATELY, NEW LEADERS RESCUED US FROM NEAR OBSOLESCENCE AND PERSISTENT FINANCIAL HARDSHIP IN THE 1980S THOSE LEADERS PLANNED OUR TRANSITION.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: TO A CONTEMPORARY CONTEMPORARY LIFE PLAN COMMUNITY OPEN TO BOTH MEN AND WOMEN.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT THE OSBORNE EVOLVE AGAIN TO SUCCESSFULLY SERVE CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTIAL THAT MEANS NEW SERVICES AND PROGRAMS AND NEW COMMON AREAS TO HOUSE THEM.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: A NEW INDEPENDENT LIVING UNITS WILL HELP FINANCE THE NEW COMMON AREAS I'VE SWORN RESIDENTS AND RETRY WITH THEIR TALENTS AND LIFE EXPERIENCES.

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RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: RESIDENT CONCERNS AND INTEREST MIRROR ARISE WELLNESS FITNESS QUALITY OF SCHOOLS AND LIFE BUILDING BRIDGES ACROSS RELIGIONS.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: SUSTAINABLE ENVIRONMENT WELCOMING NEWCOMERS AND LEARNING ENERGETICALLY ORGANIZED VOLUNTEER AND DONATE BOTH ON AND OFF CAMPUS.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: WE DREAM OF A BETTER FUTURE FOR THOSE WE SERVE IN TOUCH TO SUCCEED, WE MUST CREATE A ROADMAP FOR THE DASHBOARD AND EVOLUTION.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: OUR VALUES AND BELIEFS SERVICE OUR COMPASS, WE EXPECT OUR PLANS TO BENEFIT ALL CONSTITUENT CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENT STAFF AND NEIGHBORS.

RODERIC (ROD) ROLETT: I ASKED YOU TO SUPPORT AND APPROVE THE OSBORNE ZONE AMENDMENT APPLICATION BOAT YES AND AFFIRM YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE OSBORNE'S QUEST TO NURTURE THE WELL BEING OF HUNDREDS OF CURRENT AND FUTURE RIGHT ROGER THEM, THANK YOU.

SALLY LEE: HI CAN YOU HEAR ME THIS IS SALLY.

KRISTEN WILSON: SALLY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES, WELCOME SELLING.

SALLY LEE: NEVER FEELS FOR NOW UM BUT FOR OVER 55 YEARS THEY CAN I LIVED IN RAW AND WE VOTED YES FOR EVERY SCHOOL BUDGET WE VOTED YES FOR THE BONDS TO HELP.

SALLY LEE: AND WE WERE INVOLVED IN VARIOUS PROJECTS WHICH I WON'T BORE YOU WITH IN RYE AS RICE CITIZENS, I WROTE TO QUITE A FEW OF YOU, SO YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT IT IN THE RECORD I'M.

SALLY LEE: AN EXAMPLE OF COOPERATION IS THAT WHEN SPRY STAYING PUT IN RIGHT AND AND ENVIRONMENTS WAS DEVELOPED.

SALLY LEE: FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T COME TO THE OSBORNE THE OSBORNE DONATED SPACE ON THE FIFTH FLOOR OF THE BUILDING AND MY HUSBAND DID WITH BOB RANA FROM CHRISTCHURCH DID THE BOOKS THERE.

SALLY LEE: AND THAT WAS SUCH A NICE COOPERATION, I FEEL I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU COULD VOTE NOW TO GET TO THE NEXT STEP AND THEN.

SALLY LEE: THE DIALOGUE CAN CONTINUE, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU RESIDENT THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED IN CONCERN ABOUT THIS, ALL OUR HUNDRED AND 48 OF YOU OR WHATEVER IT WAS YOU SAID THAT YOU KNOW YOU YOU RESPECT US AND YOU WANTED.

SALLY LEE: TO HAVE THE DIALOGUE, SO MY SUGGESTION IS THIS GO TO THAT NEXT STEP IT WON'T IN DANGER ANYBODY, BUT IT WILL BE THE IMPETUS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED AND GLENN NOTES, AND I KNOW PLAYBOOKS VERY WELL I'M TO.

SALLY LEE: YOU KNOW TO WHAT TOGETHER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL PEOPLE MAYOR AND THAT'S IT.

KRISTEN WILSON: SIMON SMITH.

SIMON SMIT: ASSIGNMENT SMITH OLIVER 356 PARK AVENUE.

SIMON SMIT: I'LL BE VERY QUICK.

SIMON SMIT: THIS ISSUE HAS GONE ON FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT SEEMS THAT PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THE ISSUE.

SIMON SMIT: WITH THIS IN MIND, AND IN THE INTEREST OF MAKING THIS PROCESS AS DEMOCRATIC AS POSSIBLE, I SUGGEST THAT WE PUT THIS TO CITY WIDE REFERENDUM.

SIMON SMIT: I'M NOT SURE IF RESIDENTS WHO ARE NOT COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN PUT FORWARD MOTIONS, BUT IF THEY CAN I HEAR BY PUTTING FORWARD, BUT IF THEY CANNOT, I WOULD ASK THAT ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, PLEASE DO THIS SEEMS LIKE THE MOST BALANCED AND FAIR APPROACH AT THIS JUNCTURE, THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: KATHY GRANGER HAPPENS.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: HI CAN YOU HEAR ME.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WELCOME KATHY.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: HELLO EVERYBODY HI JOSH HI EVERYBODY.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JUST KATHY GRANGER HAVING 75 OPEN BEACH THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR CONTINUED SERVICE DRY AND YOU'RE FACING MANY ISSUES WHICH IS NOTICED AND CERTAINLY APPRECIATED I JUST LIKE TO SAY A FEW THINGS TONIGHT.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY COUNCIL, FIRST OF ALL ON SUCH AN BIG AND IMPORTANT ISSUE, IT SEEMS THAT THIS SHOULD BE DISCUSSED IN PERSON.

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KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: WOULD BE A LOT BETTER FOR EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT IT'S OKAY TO MEET IN PUBLIC OTHER TOWNS ARE MEETING IN PERSON, AS OUR OTHER BOARDS HERE AND RY.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: MEETINGS ARE FOR THE PUBLIC TO PARK TO PARTICIPATE IN WHOLEHEARTEDLY IT'S SORT OF SIMPLY RESPECT FOR THE PUBLIC TO GIVE THE PUBLIC A CHANCE TO BE HEARD IN PERSON THAT'S ONE THING, SECONDLY.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: IF THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDES TO VOTE THIS EVENING FOR THE OSBORNE OR TO CHANGE THE ZONING LAWS OR ANY OTHER THINGS REGARDING MORATORIUMS ETC.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: IT'S LIKELY THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER CHANGING THE ZONING LAWS FOR OTHER INDIVIDUALS OTHER FACILITIES AND OTHER CORPORATIONS NOT SOMETHING I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR RESIDENTS IN THE LONG TERM.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: AS I'VE MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY ME AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS ZONE WAS ZONING LAWS ARE CHANGE THERE'S NOT MUCH ALMOST NOTHING RESIDENTS ARE ABLE TO DO TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD HAS TO ABIDE BY THE LAW, THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AND SCOPE FOCUSES ONLY ON AESTHETICS.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER MENTIONED A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO THAT YES, WELL THERE'S THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND THE BAR.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: AND RESIDENTS CAN GO TO THOSE BOARDS, HOWEVER, AGAIN LIKE I JUST SAID THERE'S NOT MUCH THESE BOARDS CAN DO IF PLANS ARE WITHIN ZONING REQUIREMENTS AT THE TIME, I THINK THAT'S REALLY KEY.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: I THINK INCREDIBLY HIGHLY OF THE OSBORNE FOR MANY, MANY REASONS, A FEW OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS OF UTILIZE THE OSBORNE OF US THAT PREVIOUSLY AND THE PAVILION, UNFORTUNATELY, AND FORTUNATELY I'M.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: MANY OF THEM, AT TIMES, ONE OF MY GRANDMOTHER'S SPENT THE END OF OUR LIFE THERE THE OSBORNE IS AN ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL FACILITY FOR OSBORNE RESIDENTS AND FOR RESIDENTS, NO ONE IS QUESTIONING THE VALUE OF THE OSBORNE.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: I REALLY, REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE OSBORNE AND RESIDENTS SIT DOWN TOGETHER, NOT IN A MARKETING PRESENTATION.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: AND GO THROUGH THE POTENTIAL PLANS TO HASH OUT WHAT MAY WORK, FOR I RESIDENTS AND THE OSBORNE BEFORE ANYTHING IS DECIDED BY CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR ALL OF RYE, AND FOR THE OSBORNE MATT.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: I'D LIKE TO YO AND MEMBERS OF THE TEAM.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: SORRY.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: I'VE GOT ONE MORE SENSE REALLY LIKE TO SEE YOU ALL, MAKE THE EFFORT TO SPEAK TOGETHER.

KATHY GRAINGER HOBBINS: AND BASICALLY THAT'S IT THANK YOU ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO APPRECIATE IT.

SALLY: HI SORRY ABOUT THAT CAN YOU HEAR ME YES OKAY UM MY NAME IS SALLY LAZO I LIVE ON MEADOW PLACE I GREW UP IN RYE, AND I ACTUALLY WENT TO OSBORNE SCHOOL.

KRISTEN WILSON: SALLY.

SALLY: A REALLY LONG TIME AGO, BACK IN THE LATE 70S AND 80S AND I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR SERVICE AND TAKING SUCH A MEASURED APPROACH TO THIS HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE.

SALLY: I AGREE WITH PREVIOUS SPEAKER SIMON SMITH ABOUT THE REFERENDUM, I THINK THAT SEEMS LIKE A FAIR THING TO DO.

SALLY: AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I FIND THE TIMING OF THIS MEETING TO BE INCREDIBLY IRONIC WITH SEVERAL PREVIOUS ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING THAT ADDRESS THE ACUTE FLOODING ISSUES FACING THE CITY OF RYE.

SALLY: YOU ADDRESS THE HARBOR DREDGING ISSUE, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER POSSIBLY GETTING INVOLVED THE HORRIFIC FLOODING ISSUES WITH RYE BROOK WHICH HAS NO END IN SIGHT.

SALLY: THOSE WERE ALL ISSUES THAT ARE FACING OUR CITY AND IT'S YOU KNOW SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN THAT TREES, AN OPEN SPACE SOAK UP THOUSANDS OF GALLONS OF WATER.

SALLY: YOU KNOW AND OVERBUILDING LEADS TO FLOODING SO WITH THIS MASSIVE PROPOSED EXPANSION OF THE OSBORNE.

SALLY: AND THE AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE AND NUMBER OF MATURE TREES THAT ARE SET TO BE CUT DOWN, IT SEEMS LIKE TERRIBLE TIMING FOR MANY OF US.

SALLY: WE HAVE HALF OF INDIAN VILLAGE WHERE MANY OF THE RESIDENTS ARE STILL NOT EVEN BACK IN THEIR HOMES, AFTER HURRICANE IDA.

SALLY: THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS DESTROYED, THERE WERE SO MANY OTHER AREAS OF OUR TOWN MANY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE NEVER SEEN FLOODING BEFORE, INCLUDING THE RIDE GORDON'S NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS JUST DOWN THE HILL FROM THE OSBORNE SO AT WHAT POINT.

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SALLY: DO WE LET DEVELOPERS CONTINUE TO CALL THE SHOTS IN THIS TOWN AT WHAT POINT DO WE DECIDE TO CHERISH WHAT WE HAVE.

SALLY: AT WHAT POINT DO WE DECIDE NOT TO DESTROY WHAT WE HAVE IN THE NAME OF EXPANSION AND IMPROVEMENT AND AND LUXURY.

SALLY: I BELIEVE THAT THE I LOVE THE OSBORN I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL BUILDING IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY BUT FEW PEOPLE I KNOW EVEN HERE IN RYE COULD AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.

SALLY: THERE SEEMS TO BE THIS THIS SORT OF PR LINE THAT WE NEED TO EXPAND SO THAT EVERYBODY IN RY HAS A PLACE TO GO AND WE ALL GET OLDER, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT.

SALLY: MOST OF US ARE HEADING SOUTH LIKE WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT STAYING IN RIGHT BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD IT OSBORNE OR NO, I WAS BORN.

SALLY: SO I DO HOPE THAT THE OSBORNE CAN FIND A WAY TO STAY CURRENT IMPROVE WITH RENOVATIONS MAKE MODERN IMPROVEMENTS AND REMAIN THE BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY THAT IT IS TODAY, WITHOUT THIS ENORMOUS EXPANSION.

SALLY: THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: HENRIQUE FRANCISCO.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: CAN YOU HEAR ME.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: YES, OKAY, THANK YOU.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: I'M JOSE ENRIQUE FRANCISCO AND I LIVE ON ONE PACKER COURT.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AGAIN, I THINK EVERYONE HERE TRULY APPRECIATES THE OSBOURNE AS AN INSTITUTION AS BUT SERVICE PROVIDES, I THINK WE ALL.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: WOULD LIKE TO SEE DRIVING NO QUESTION ABOUT AND GROW AND MAYBE AT ONE POINT, SOME OF US EVEN MIGHT BE THERE, BUT AGAIN, AS MANY OTHERS HAVE VOICED.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: WE FEEL THAT THIS DECISION OR THE VOTING IS A LITTLE BIT HUSHED THERE'S SO MANY CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP BY THE COMMUNITY BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE FEEL HAVE NOT BEEN DISCUSSED.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REALLY ASK FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE HEARING PROCESS RIGHT, WE HAVE RECEIVED THE WRITTEN VERSION OF THE REVISED ZONING AMENDMENT NOT SOMEWHAT RECENTLY.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: AND WOULD LIKE MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE LATEST PROPOSAL AND AND IF GREAT THE EXTENSION WOULD LIKE TIME.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: FOR THE CONCERN RESIDENTS TO MEET SHARE IDEAS COME UP WITH SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW THE HUSBAND COULD CONSIDER REVISING THE ZONING AMENDMENT.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORS CONCERNS ARE IT'S A GROUP, I THINK THAT WE COULD PUT TOGETHER AS NEIGHBORS AND WORK COLLECTIVELY COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE AUTHOR AND RAP NOMINATE SOME REPRESENTATIVES TO MEET WITH THEM.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: DISCUSS OR SUGGESTIONS, WITH THE GOAL OF WORKING COLLABORATIVE TO FIND A ZONING SOLUTION THAT IS MUTUALLY ACCEPTABLE.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: TO EVERYONE THAT'S INVOLVED, SO WE ASKED THE COUNCIL SUPPORT THE PROVIDING THE COMMUNITY WITH THIS ADDITIONAL TIME THE HUSBAND HAS THE LAKE.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, SOMETIMES A COUPLE TIMES SO WE ASKED THAT WE BRING THE PUBLIC THE SAME COURTESY.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: OF ADDITIONAL TIME, SO WE CAN ORGANIZE YOUR PRAYERS AND FORMULATE ZONING SUGGESTION WE RESPECTFULLY INVITED THE ASPIRIN TO MEET WITH US ANY REASONABLE TIMEFRAME, CAN WE ARE NOW, AS THE COUNCIL, FOR THE TIME TO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: SO THE ASPIRIN NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN IN CONTINUE TO BE WILLING TO PUT IN THE HARD WORK TO FIND HIS ONLY SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR ALL.

HENRIQUE FRANCISCO: SO WE PLEASE ASK YOU TO ALLOW US TIME TO WORK WITH OSBORNE AND AND TRY TO FIND A BETTER SOLUTION THAT ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS BUT ALSO THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT ARE LEGITIMATE FOR THE LONG TERM ASPECT OF THE IMPACTS THAT YOU CAN HAVE TO THE CITY AND ITS NEIGHBORHOOD THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HEY ARE YOU THERE.

KRISTEN WILSON: HEY.

ABE: CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW YES OKAY HELLO, HOW ARE YOU, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS COMMENTS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HE CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND.

ABE: ADDRESS MY NAME IS APE SANDBERG AND I LIVE WITH THE OSBORN I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE FIVE YEARS NOW ORIGINALLY I'M FROM WESTCHESTER FROM PURCHASE AND.

ABE: NON RESIDENT HERE AT THE AT THE OSBORN.

ABE: THE, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT THE MAN WHO WAS JUMPED OUT OF A THE EIGHTH FLOOR OF THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING AND, AS HE WAS GOING DOWN.

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ABE: TO THE FLOOR, OR TO THE GROUND, SOMEBODY LOOKED OUT THE WINDOW AND SAY WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND HE SAID NOTHING YET.

ABE: AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT'S YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE AWARE, ABOUT THE OSBORNE GASPER IT'S A WONDERFUL FACILITY IS TERRIFIC NOW.

ABE: BUT IT IS, IT DOES NEED MODERNIZING IT DOES REQUIRE TO KEEP UP WITH THE THINGS THAT OTHER NEWER FACILITIES ARE MAKING OTHERWISE NOT NOW IT RIGHT NOW IS VERY VIABLE, BUT IN TIME, IT WILL NOT BE VIABLE, AND I THINK THAT WE ALL CAN AGREE THAT THE OSBORN IS A WONDERFUL LANDMARK FOR.

ABE: FOR RY IS NOT ONLY PRESTIGIOUS BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE BEST IF NOT PERHAPS THE BEST SENIOR FACILITY AROUND IT ALSO OFFERS TREMENDOUS.

ABE: HELP TO THE ABOUT 30% OF THE OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE OSBORNE WERE ORIGINALLY RESONANCE OF WAS BORN THE REST ARE MANY OF THEM ARE WESTCHESTER PEOPLE WILL HAVE FAMILY IN THE AS ONE SO IT'S A FACILITY THAT OFFERS TO THE COMMUNITY, A PLACE WHERE THEIR ELDERS CAN GO TO.

ABE: AND I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR RY TO CONTINUE TO HAVE ALSO THE PEOPLE AT THE OSBORNE ARE VERY COMMITTED TO RIGHT WE HELP WITH THE SCHOOLS, WE HELP WITH A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES SO IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A IT'S PART OF THE COMMUNITY OF OF OF RIGHT.

ABE: I THINK IT'D BE WHO'S TO KEEP THE BOARD ALIVE AND VIABLE AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT IT NEEDS SOME ADDITIONS AND THAT'S WHY THE ZONING CHANGES ARE REQUIRED, AND I HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL WILL SEE THAT AND MAKE MAKE THAT TO COME TRUE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

KRISTEN WILSON: LESLIE BEAVERS.

LESLIE EBERS: HI, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME MANY MISLED LEBER'S I LIVE AT 138 OSBORNE ROAD.

LESLIE EBERS: I'VE HAD A FEW THOUGHTS, THIS EVENING, AND I THINK WHAT ALWAYS IT COMES BACK TO FOR ME IS THE FACT THAT.

LESLIE EBERS: EVERYONE BELIEVES THEY'RE FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT FOR THE BEST REASONS BUT, JUST LIKE ALICE WHO LIVES AT THE OSBORN SAID AND SALLY WHO LIVES AT THE OSBORN SAID.

LESLIE EBERS: THEY JUST WANT THIS FIRST STEP PAST AND THEN, WHEN WE CAN DEAL WITH THINGS AS IT COMES UP LET'S JUST INCREASE THIS FAR, THAT IS EXACTLY WHY ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE FIGHTING SO HARD WE ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT THAT.

LESLIE EBERS: THE REASON BEING WE HAVE SEEN THROUGH SITTING THROUGH MANY OF THESE MEETINGS, WHAT HAPPENS.

LESLIE EBERS: WHEN ZONING HAS CHANGED WHEN THE FIRE IS INCREASED WITHOUT A PLAN OF THIS IS WHAT'S EXACTLY GOING TO HAPPEN, BECAUSE AT SOME POINT IN LEADER COMMITTEES, THEY HAVE TO THROW THEIR HANDS UP AND SAY LEGALLY THEY'RE WITHIN THEIR RIGHT, AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

LESLIE EBERS: I DO HAVE A SUGGESTION I DO WANT THEM TO EXPAND AND STAY CURRENT AND DO WONDERFUL THINGS, BUT THEY HAVE NOT USED ALL OF THEIR CURRENT FAR.

LESLIE EBERS: SO WHY NOT INSTEAD OF ASKING FOR THIS HUGE INCREASE SAY OKAY, THIS IS WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO US, WE CAN BUILD BUILDING A AND BUILDING B AND THEY CAN DO THAT NOW, BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE AVAILABLE FAR.

LESLIE EBERS: READY TO BE BUILT ON AND THEN AT SUCH TIME THAT THEY HAVE DONE SOME EXPANSION THEY'VE MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY'RE NOT BUILDING IT ALL LIKE TOMORROW.

LESLIE EBERS: IT'S NOT EVEN GOING TO BE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, SO WHY ARE WE IN THIS BIG RUSH TO GRANT ALL THIS EXTRA SPACE FOR THE WHAT IFS AND WHAT COULD BE INSTEAD LET'S REALLY FOCUS ON THIS IS WHAT'S AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

LESLIE EBERS: YOU KNOW MY SON WAS THERE, I BELIEVE IT WAS JUST YESTERDAY PERFORMING FOR WITH THE COURT OR THE ORCHESTRA FROM OSBORNE I DO LOVE THAT THEY'RE THESE INTERACTIVE.

LESLIE EBERS: THINGS WHERE THEY GET TO YOU KNOW, SEE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND THEY GET TO ENJOY THE MUSIC FROM THE STUDENTS, ETC.

LESLIE EBERS: BUT I REALLY THINK WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR THE CITY, WE NEED A MASTER PLAN WE DON'T HAVE SOLUTIONS FOR THE FLOODING, WE DEFINITELY NEED A SOLUTION THERE.

LESLIE EBERS: AND NOW WE JUST KEEP GOING ROUND AND ROUND, PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE A HUGE INCREASE IN FAR PLEASE ENCOURAGE THEM TO CHOOSE THEIR TOP TWO BUILDINGS AND DO IT, BUT I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO JUST GRANT THEM CARTE BLANCHE FOR THE NEXT 10 TO 15 YEARS TO KEEP BUILDING, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

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CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ME OR I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO LESLIE'S POINT UM SO WE'RE TRYING, I THINK YOU KNOW YOU YOU COME TO US, YOU KNOW AND.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU DO HAVE AN FDR THAT YOU COULD GO TO A NEW HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT AND YOU HAD DIFFERENT SET BACK SO WE'RE HERE WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORS RIGHT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BECAUSE WE WANT THEY WANT THE SETBACKS, TO BE FURTHER BACK CURRENTLY YOUR SETBACKS WOULD BE MUCH CLOSER TO THE ROAD YOU'RE BUILDING HIGH WOULD BE.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MUCH HIGHER LIKE WHAT ARE THE DANGERS LIKE BECAUSE SHE'S ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT SHE MAY BE SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW THESE COULD WORK BOTH WAYS.

STEVEN WRABEL: I GUESS THAT'S RIGHT IN SOME WAYS THE CURRENT ZONING IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS RESTRICTIVE ON THE OSBORNE THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING SO TO YOUR POINT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, THE CURRENT SETBACKS FROM OSBORNE ROAD LET'S SAY, WHICH I KNOW IS A POINT OF GREAT CONCERN OUR.

STEVEN WRABEL: EXCUSE ME, ARE 160 FEET AND WE'RE DOUBLING THOSE BUILDING SETBACKS TO ROUGHLY TWO TO 300 FEET AND, IN ADDITION TO THAT WE'RE TEARING THE HEIGHTS WHEREAS 75 FOOT BUILDINGS CAN BE PLACED ANYWHERE WITHIN THAT HUNDRED 60 FOOT STEP BACK NOW SO.

STEVEN WRABEL: I DO WANT TO ADDRESS BRIEFLY THE THE IDEA THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO GET THROUGH THE FAA OUR ADOPTION AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET CARTE BLANCHE TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW UP FOR THE SITE PLAN AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUT DOWN ON THE TABLE AND SAY.

STEVEN WRABEL: THIS IS THE FLY THAT'S ALLOWED, WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT, BECAUSE WHAT THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN ABOUT WILL START FROM THE BEGINNING IS.

STEVEN WRABEL: DEFINING THE CONSIDERATIONS, THE RESTRICTIONS, THE PLANNING RATIONALE THAT GOES INTO THIS PROPOSED SPECIAL PERMIT USE SO.

STEVEN WRABEL: IN CONSIDERING WHAT IT MIGHT MEAN TO HAVE GREATER SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE SITE, WE THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACTS MIGHT BE TO THE NEIGHBORS TO THE TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD TO OUR OWN PROPERTY.

STEVEN WRABEL: SO WE IMPOSED GREATER SETBACK LIMITATIONS, WHEN YOUR VISUALS WERE WERE OF GREAT CONCERN, SO WE RESTRICTED HI WE REQUIRED SPACING BETWEEN BUILDINGS WE'RE.

STEVEN WRABEL: DESIGNING WITH THE ANGLED FACADE TOWARDS THIELE ROAD IN MIND WE'RE IMPOSING LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS EVEN GREATER LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS NOW WITH REGARD TO PARKING.

STEVEN WRABEL: IT'S IT'S BEEN AN ONGOING DISCUSSION NOT ONLY WITH THE PUBLIC, BUT NOT ONLY WITH YOU, THE COUNCIL, BUT WITH STAFF AND THE PLANNING BOARD AND.

STEVEN WRABEL: WE'RE TRYING TO DEFINE THE PARAMETERS WITHIN WHICH WE CAN ALL WORK DOWN THE LINE, AND I KNOW THAT'S THAT'S OUR GOAL, I KNOW MATT IS THINKING INTO THE FUTURE AND CONSIDERING THE AWS ONES LONG TERM LONGEVITY AND SO THAT HAS BEEN OUR CONSIDERATION THROUGHOUT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I HAVE TO SAY I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, KNOWING THAT YOU ARE TIED TO WHATEVER WE PRESCRIBE US LAW RIGHT NOW THAT THE SEE YOUR MAX HEIGHT THAT HE SEES YOUR MAX YOU KNOW SAID BACK THAT I WOULD RATHER DO THAT THEN DO HODGEPODGE YOU KNOW HERE AND THERE, BUT THAT'S THAT'S ME.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: I HAVE A TO FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS, ONE IS WITH RESPECT TO THE FA IR AND MY QUESTION IS TO MATT OR TO STEPHEN, AND THAT IS JUST WHY WHY DON'T YOU.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, TO THE POINT, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU MAXIMIZE YOUR FA HOUR BEFORE YOU APPLY FOR THIS.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: VARIANCE WHY WHY ARE YOU DOING IT THIS WAY.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: YOU WANT TO GO IT'S.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: YEAH SO IT'S IT'S IT'S MORE OF A FINANCING THING I MEAN TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD SOME OF THOSE OTHER ADDITIONS AND SO FORTH.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: YOU NEED TO HAVE THE NEW GREATER INDEPENDENT RENTAL UNITS TO HELP TO FINANCE THE AMENITY SPACE.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT IN NEED AND THAT IS.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WE NEED TO COMPETE, YOU KNOW GOING FORWARD SO IT'S MORE THAN THE 97,000 SQUARE FEET AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: IS BASED ON PERCENTAGES PERCENTAGES FOR WHAT'S SUCCESSFUL WHAT MAKES UP A SUCCESSFUL CONTINUING CARE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: OUR PERCENTAGES OF WE'RE MORE OF A 50% HEALTH CARE MODEL TO 50% INDEPENDENT LIVING MODEL.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: IF YOU WERE TO BUILD A SUCCESSFUL SENIOR LIVING RETIREMENT COMMUNITY TODAY, PEOPLE ARE AGING IN PLACE THEY'RE DOING IT WITH HOME CARE AND OTHER THINGS THEY WANT LARGER UNITS.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: AND THEY'RE PHYSICALLY AGING IN PLACE TO PLACES THAT ARE BEING BUILT TODAY OR MORE ALONG THE 75% 25% INDEPENDENT LIVING TO HEALTH CARE.

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MATTHEW ANDERSON: AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS TO RIGHT SIZE, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S WHAT WILL MAKE US SUCCESSFUL GOING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE WILL ALSO YOU KNOW DOING SOME THINGS HERE ON OUR CAMPUS THAT ARE OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS ONE IN FUTURE RESIDENTS.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: AND SORRY MY SECOND QUESTION JUST REAL QUICKLY AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR CHRISTIAN MILLER, IF HE HAPPENS TO BE AVAILABLE OR MAYBE GREG YOU COULD TAKE IT, BUT THE QUESTION IS REALLY WITH RESPECT IT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT FLOODING.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: AND CERTAINLY THE FLOODING THAT WE EXPERIENCED IN IDA IS YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE, AND IS COMING FROM, YOU KNOW THAT.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: IS NOT THE RESULT OF ONE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, I WOULD SAY, I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THE IMPACT THAT EVERY PROJECT HAS ON FLOODING.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: AND, AND THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT WHEN WE ADDRESS.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: STORMWATER RUNOFF, AND THAT IS THAT THE PLANNING STAGE, AND SO I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S NO NEED NET INCREASE ALLOWED IN STORMWATER RUNOFF FROM A SITE, AS A RESULT OF A PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, AND SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND, MAYBE CHRISTIAN OR GREG.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: IT THAT'S IS THAT ACCURATE AND IN ONE IS THAT ADDRESSED I'M.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: GOD LOVE YOU FOR SURE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: YOU'RE ON MUTE STILL.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: CAN'T HEAR YOU.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I CAN TELL YOU THAT ANY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT HAS A.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MANAGEMENT A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT HAS TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED, AND YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ENGINEERS THAT CONSULT WITH THE CITY, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TAKES A LOOK AT YOU KNOW AT ALL THAT STUFF SO ALL OF THAT GOES IN INTO INTO PLANNING.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: TO RECEIVE CHRISTIANS BACK ON YET IF NOT MAYBE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JUST STABLE CAN PROBABLY JUMP IN.

THERE AND.

STEVEN WRABEL: I SEE CHRISTIANS BACK END IF WE DON'T HAVE SOUND.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: NO SOUND.

STEVEN WRABEL: SO I OUR ENGINEER ANDY TANG, WHO IS A STORM WATER EXPERT HE'S RAISING HIS HAND.

ANDREW TUNG: I CAN ALSO ADDRESS WHEN THAT'S.

ANDREW TUNG: PART OF THE PROCESS, THE REVIEW REVIEW PROCESS THAT'S GENERALLY DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW WHEN THEY WERE A SPECIFIC.

ANDREW TUNG: BUILDINGS PAVED AREAS LANDSCAPE AREAS AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FACILITIES THAT ARE PROPOSED, THERE ARE BOTH NEW YORK STATE REGULATIONS AND CITY OF RYE REGULATIONS AND, YES, THE GENERAL RULE IS THAT NO.

ANDREW TUNG: INCREASE IN THE PEAK CRATER RUNOFF FROM A PARTICULAR SITE IS PERMITTED, BUT WITHIN THAT UMBRELLA, IF YOU WILL, THERE ARE ALSO WAYS TO MANAGE STORM WATER ON A SITE BEFORE IT GETS TO A POINT OF DISCHARGE.

ANDREW TUNG: THIS WAS DONE AT THE OSBORNE BACK AT THE LAST SET OF IMPROVEMENTS IN THE LATE 1900S INTO THE EARLY 2000S.

ANDREW TUNG: THOSE ARE EVIDENCE BY THE STORM WATER BASINS THAT YOU MAY SEE ALONG BOTH THE FIELD ROAD FRONTAGE OR THE OLD POST ROAD FRONTAGE.

ANDREW TUNG: SO IT'S DONE IN GREATER DETAIL AND SPECIFIC SPECIFICITY SPECIFICITY THAT'S REVIEWED BY THE CITY ENGINEER.

ANDREW TUNG: AS WELL AS OTHER CONSULTANTS WITHIN THE CITY OR FOR THE CITY, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

ANDREW TUNG: UPON DETAILED DESIGNS WHAT WAS REFERENCED BEFORE IS A STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN AND WHAT'S KNOWN AS A STORM WATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN OR SWEPT THAT'S COORDINATED WITH EXISTING FACILITIES ON A SITE AND THE DISCHARGE POINTS WITHIN THE CITY OF RICE SYSTEM.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND IF IF IF I'M A ND MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE BASE AND SYSTEM THAT THE OSBORNE IS THAT IT COLLECTS STORMWATER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND THEN THAT WATER IS ALLOWED TO RUN INTO THE CITY STORMWATER SYSTEM AND ESSENTIALLY ADD IN AT A RESTRICTED RATE OF FLOW, THAT IS, THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE DRAIN PIPE DIAMETER DICTATES HOW QUICKLY THOSE BASINS CAN DRAIN AND IF THE BASE AND SOUP VERY FULL THEY'LL REMAIN THAT FULL FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

ANDREW TUNG: THAT'S CORRECT MY EARTH SERVES AS A BATHTUB ONE OF ITS FUNCTIONS IS AS A AS A BATHTUB SO THAT THE DRAIN, OUT OF THE BOTTOM OF THE BATHTUB RESTRICTS THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT CAN GO OUT AT ANY GIVEN POINT AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JOSH NATHAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M TO TWO QUESTIONS ONE I'LL PICK UP ON THE LAST POINT THAT THE MAYOR RAISED ANDY ANDREW SORRY, WHEN YOU SAY IT RESTRICTS THE FLOW THAT'S BASED ON THE DIAMETER OF IF IT'S NOT BASED ON WHAT'S ALREADY PASSED THE PIPE COMMAND CORRECT THERE'S NO WAY IT'S NOT LIKE WE TURN IT ON AND OFF.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S JUST IT JUST FLOWS OF SLOW RATE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM, OR IS THERE MORE TO IT THAN THAT.

ANDREW TUNG: NO THAT'S CORRECT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S OKAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE'S NO LIKE I WON'T EVEN USE THE WORD GATE BECAUSE SORRY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT IT'S OKAY I GOT IT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO TO TWO LITTLE THINGS REALLY GOING BACK I'M SORRY I APPRECIATE THAT THE DIALOGUE THAT WE'RE HAVING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU YOU TALKED ABOUT THE 5050 7030 AND YOU EXPLAINED IT TO ME AND I GLEAN FROM THAT SOMETHING THAT I FOUND VERY HELPFUL AND YOU KNOW IF AND I'LL SAY IT HERE, AND IF IT'S NOT HELPFUL NOW YOU CAN TELL ME IT ISN'T BUT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MY UNDERSTANDING WAS YOU KNOW THE THE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IF WE LOOK AT THE ECONOMICS OF RUNNING SKILLED NURSING AND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HIGH LEVEL ALL ASSISTED LIVING THAT'S THAT THOSE BEDROOMS ARE REALLY, REALLY, EXPENSIVE AND THAT, IF YOUR WHOLE OPERATION WERE TO BE LIKE THAT THAT'S LIKE RUNNING A HOSPITAL IN TERMS OF EXPENSE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT THAT IF YOU HAVE SENIOR LIVING WHERE THOSE FOLKS JUST NEED TO ACCESS TO THOSE THINGS THAT DRIVES THE BALANCES OUT THE EXPENSE AND IT MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU HAVE SUCH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HIGH QUALITY ASSISTED LIVING AND SKILLED NURSING SERVICES RIGHT THERE AVAILABLE BOTH TO THE SENIORS ON THE OSBORNE CAMPUS AND TO THE VARIOUS SENIORS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHO ARE OFF CAMPUS BECAUSE YOU SERVE OSBORNE YOU SERVE SENIORS IN RYE OFF OF OSBORNE OFF OF THE CAMPUS YOU SERVE PEOPLE AT RYAN MATTER AND YOU SERVE PEOPLE AROUND TOWN AND THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT THIS MODEL OF THE 7030 THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO MAKES THAT SUSTAINABLE AND IS THAT RIGHT, I MEAN THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTOOD, I MADE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME AND IT'S VERY SIMPLISTIC WHAT IT SAID.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: THAT'S THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT JOSH AND WE WE SERVICE ABOUT 700 PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY JUST INNER CIRCLE SKILLED NURSING FACILITY THAT COME HERE AND OUR.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: AS FOR HOME CARE ABOUT ANOTHER 200 PEOPLE ACTUALLY 500 A YEAR BUT, BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS KIND OF FEED OFF OF EACH OTHER TO MAKE A VERY SUCCESSFUL MODEL.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: I THINK THAT INTO THE PIPE FOR THE.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: REFERRAL SYSTEM TO THROUGH THAT SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, HAVING HAVING PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO BE REFERRED TO THE ASSISTED LIVING IN THE SKILLED FROM YOUR OWN CAMPUS AS WELL.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THANKS I JUST I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A TENDENCY TO THINK ABOUT THE LIMITATION THAT THE OSBORNE EXISTS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CAMPUS AT TIMES.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ONE OF YOUR RESIDENCE POINTED OUT THE WORK WITH SPRY AND OTHER THINGS, BUT I THINK WE SOMETIMES LOSE TRACK OF WHAT THE MODEL IS THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING AND THAT IT EXTENDS BEYOND THE CAMPUS AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT AND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THAT AS I'LL ASK OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I KNEW I APPRECIATE THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'D LOVE TO GET BACK TO THE PUBLIC, IF WE CAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH MY SECOND QUESTION WAS SOMETHING STEVE RAISED AND THEN I'LL STOP TALKING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: VERY SPECIFICALLY, YOU TALKED ABOUT A 300 FOOT STEP BACK AND I SEE THAT IN THE PLANS SOMEWHERE AND MAYBE THIS IS JUST A POINT OF CONFUSION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS THERE A 240 FOOT PARKING SETBACK OFF OF US ONE ROAD THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE 300 FOOT SETBACK OR IS THAT JUST SOME MYTHS OR SOMETHING THAT I JUST A TECHNICAL QUESTION I JUST.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WILL JUST WANT LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

STEVEN WRABEL: YES, AND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO ONE YOU.

STEVEN WRABEL: JUST AS I NOTED EARLIER THIS EVENING IT'S 240 FEET FOR ROADWAYS AND PARKING FROM OSBORNE ROAD.

STEVEN WRABEL: WITH THE EVERGREEN SCREENING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THAT OKAY FINE IN THAT 240 FEET, IS THAT WHICH STILL WITHIN THE FENCE OR IS THAT GO INTO THE FENCE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH I'M SURE YOU REMEMBER THE CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT YEAH GUYS YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS A PARKING.

ANDREW TUNG: SO ANSWERS DIAGONAL SO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S A DIAGONAL FENCE RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND, BUT IS THAT IS THE PARKING THEORETICALLY STILL ON THE NOT AS ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHERE DOES THIS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: KIND OF COMPLICATED AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY BECAUSE THERE'S SOME WETLANDS THERE, AND YOU CAN PUT ROADS OR ANY STRUCTURE WITHIN THE 100 BUFFER FROM THE WETLAND SO YOU REALLY MAY HAVE YOU KNOW BIGGER DISTANCE YOU CAN'T BE SO LIKE YOU KNOW.

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CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH SQUARE LIKE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I UNDERSTAND I JUST JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE STANDING ON THE SIDEWALK AND I WAS BORN IN A LOOK AND SEE THE CHAIN LINK FENCE, THAT IS, THAT A DIAGONAL IS THE PARKING SET BACK BEHIND THAT FENCE OR IS THAT COME IN FRONT OF THAT FENCE IT'S ALL JUST.

ANDREW TUNG: PROBABLY CROSSES THE FENCE I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY RIGHT NOW.

ANDREW TUNG: OKAY, OR PORTION IS BEYOND PORTION IS BEHIND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR MAYOR FOR INDULGING MY QUESTIONS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YOU'RE VERY WELCOME LET'S PLEASE GET BACK TO THE PUBLIC KRISTEN IF YOU CAN RECRUIT SOMEONE.

KRISTEN WILSON: PLUMBER.

SEAN PLUMMER: STUDENTS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WELCOME SEAN.

SEAN PLUMMER: THANK YOU, CAUGHT ME TAKING A BITE AT DINNER, SO I APOLOGIZE YOUR TIME IS QUITE POOR.

SEAN PLUMMER: I I LIVE IN ONE ON ONE OSBORNE ROAD WITH MY WIFE AND THREE KIDS.

SEAN PLUMMER: WE, LIKE MANY OF OUR FELLOW NEIGHBORS WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL POSTPONE THE VOTE ON THE ZONING CHANGE FOR THE OSBORN.

SEAN PLUMMER: WOULD ASK THAT WE POSTPONE THAT TILL TILL FALL OUR OUR HOPE IS THAT WE CAN BEGIN AN ACTIVE DIALOGUES SIMILAR TO WHAT'S HAPPENING THIS EVENING WITH THE OSBORN WITH THE COUNCIL TO FIND A COMMON GROUND.

SEAN PLUMMER: WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT TIME TO HAVE AN ACTIVE IN PERSON COMMUNITY DIALOGUE AND ZOOM HAS BEEN A A WONDERFUL TOOL DURING COVEN BUT IT DEFINITELY LIMITS THE ABILITY TO BEGIN TO ENGAGE AND BEGIN TO ASK QUESTIONS BEGIN TO TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

SEAN PLUMMER: I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO CLARIFY THAT WE, AS THE NEIGHBORS I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

SEAN PLUMMER: OR NOT AGAINST THE GROWTH AND IMPROVEMENT OF THE OSBORNE, BUT WE DO WANT TO HAVE A COLLABORATIVE VOICE IN THE EXPANSION THEIR PHYSICAL FOOTPRINT.

SEAN PLUMMER: AS A DIMENSION TONIGHT AND IN PRIOR MEETINGS ONCE A JONI CHANGES BEEN GRANTED, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDO THAT, AND THIS IS ONE VERY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN FLIR.

SEAN PLUMMER: WE HOPE TO USE THAT THAT EXTENSION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND.

SEAN PLUMMER: WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, WHAT THE IMPACT OF POTENTIALLY BE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO RISE, A WHOLE.

SEAN PLUMMER: SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

KRISTEN WILSON: MAN ATTEMPT CHECK.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): I ALL AMANDA TIM CHECK FROM 61 WAS BORN, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO FOLLOW SEAN BECAUSE I THINK I HAVE VERY SIMILAR SENTIMENTS TO WHAT HE JUST MENTIONED.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'VE BEEN VERY ENGAGED IN THE ZONING DISCUSSION AND HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE ALSO BEEN VOCAL AND ENGAGED.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): WE SUBMITTED A LETTER ON MONDAY, ON BEHALF OF ANY RESIDENTS ASKING FOR A BIT MORE TIME TO COME TO A ZONING OUTCOME THAT FEELS LIKE A WIN FOR ALL.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): AND I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT THE MAJORITY OF NEIGHBORS VERY MUCH UNDERSTAND THAT THE ZONING CHANGE WILL AND SHOULD HAPPEN FOR THE AS BORN.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): WE WANT TO SEE THE AS BORN SUCCEED AND UNDERSTAND THAT THE ZONING AMENDMENT IS PART OF THEIR PATH TO SUCCESS.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): AND I BELIEVE THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE AS WARREN IS REQUESTING AND WHERE MANY NEIGHBORS FEEL COMFORTABLE IS REALLY NOT AS LARGE AS SOME MAY THINK I THINK WE'RE GETTING REALLY CLOSE TO THE END.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): I THINK, TO JOSH IS LAST QUESTION, THERE REMAINS SOME CONFUSION AND CONTINUING CONCERN ABOUT THAT TO 40 PARKING SETBACK AND ROADWAY ALONG OSBORNE ROAD AND WHAT IMPACT THAT HAS THE GREEN SPACE THAT MANY OF US ARE VERY CONCERNED.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): WITH LOSING AND I DON'T WANT TO USE MY WHOLE THREE MINUTES TO GO BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S ONE SPECIFIC PLACE THAT THERE'S ROOM FOR CONTINUED DISCUSSION IS THAT TO 40 SETBACK FOR PARKING.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): BUT EVEN WITH THAT I DO REALLY TRULY BELIEVE THAT, WITH JUST A LITTLE TIME AND A LITTLE MORE EFFORT THAT THIS CONCERN AND MANY OTHERS OF THE NEIGHBORS CAN BE ADDRESSED.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): AND I THINK THAT IF NEIGHBORS ARE GIVEN THE TIME TO COME TOGETHER.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): IN PERSON TO BE THOUGHTFUL THAT WE COULD HOPEFULLY COME TO THE OSBORNE WITH A REQUEST THAT HAS SPECIFICITY, THAT WOULD ALLOW THE OSBORNE THE GROWTH THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): BUT ALSO ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS THAT NEIGHBORS HAVE RAISED WITH THIS PROCESS.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): THE GREEN SPACE, I THINK IS VERY MUCH PART OF THAT CONVERSATION AND IT'S A TOP PRIORITY THAT WE'VE ALL TOUCHED ON THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): BUT WE'VE NEVER SAID SPECIFICALLY WHAT PRESERVING THE GREEN SPACE MEANS IN TERMS OF SETBACKS IN TERMS OF BUILDING HEIGHTS IN TERMS OF PARKING I WOULD LOVE TO COME BACK WITH A CONSENSUS FROM NEIGHBORS TO THE OSBORNE TO WHAT SPECIFICALLY PRESERVING THE GREEN SPACE MEANS TO US.

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AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): SO WE CONTINUE AS OUR LETTER ON MONDAY TO JUST ASK FOR THE TIME TO LET THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAPPEN, WE DON'T WANT THIS TO DRAG ON LONGER.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): THAN IT HAS ANY MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE DOES SO WE COMMIT TO BEING EXPEDITIOUS AND PUTTING OUR NOSE TO THE GRIND TO GET THIS DONE.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): BUT WE HUMBLY AND RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO PLEASE LET US HAVE THAT TIME AND TO COME TOGETHER AS NEIGHBORS AND WITH MATT AND WITH HIS TEAM AND COME OUT WITH SOMETHING THAT FEELS LIKE A WIN FOR EVERYONE, THANK YOU.

AUTUMN: HI SORRY IT'S UNDER MY DAUGHTER'S NAME AGAIN FOR SOME REASON BUT IT'S DC MASSEY I'M AT 51 SOUNDVIEW AVENUE.

KRISTEN WILSON: AWESOME.

AUTUMN: I BASICALLY WOULD JUST ECHO WHAT AMANDA JUST SAID AND, IN ADDITION, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A FIVE YEAR OLD SON WHO'S GOING TO SPEND THE NEXT SIX YEARS AT THE OSBORN SCHOOL.

AUTUMN: AND I'M JUST REALLY OPPOSED TO THAT MUCH CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NEXT TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IT IT REALLY DOES CONCERN ME I DO WANT TO SEE THE OSBORNE GROW AND SUCCEED.

AUTUMN: BUT I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME COMPROMISES THAT NEED TO BE MADE, SO I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO DELAY TO PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO GET TO THAT MIDDLE GROUND THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE HAPPY WITH THANK YOU.

COLE: HI CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES, WELCOME.

COLE: HI THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS IS COLE MCKAY FROM 10 HERITAGE LANE.

COLE: WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR 30 YEARS I THINK ALMOST IN RIGHT 29 ANYWAY.

COLE: AT THE LAST MEETING, WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WAS A WAITING LIST FOR 77 ROOMS AND THAT THERE'S OVER 90,000 SQUARE FOOT OF FA ARE AVAILABLE FOR EXPANSION UNDER CURRENT ZONING SO.

COLE: I'M AFRAID, I STILL DON'T REALLY BUY OR UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT THAT A MUCH BIGGER FAA OURS NEEDED TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE AND.

COLE: I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO WHAT CATHY GRANGER HOPKINS SAID I KNOW THIS, THIS DEBATE IS FELT VERY CONTENTIOUS AT TIME SO I REALLY APPRECIATE HER POINT.

COLE: THAT THIS IS NOT JUST ANTI OSBORNE SO PROBLEMS, NOT THE OSBORNE IT'S THAT MORE BUILDINGS MEAN MORE FLOODING, I MEAN IT'S KIND OF OBVIOUS RIGHT LESS TREES LESS LAWNS MORE BUILDINGS MORE PARKING EVEN IF IT'S PERMEABLE PARKING.

COLE: IS IT'S A RECIPE FOR MORE FLOODING, AND YOU KNOW I HATE TO SIT HERE 15 YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN YOU KNOW, HALF OF OUR NEIGHBORS YOU KNOW BASEMENTS ARE FLOODED AND SAY GEE WHO SAW THIS COMING I THINK IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO SEE THIS COMING UM.

COLE: I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE STORMS WE'RE GOING TO GET BUT THEY SEEM TO BE COMING MORE OFTEN, AND I THINK THIS WILL EXACERBATE THE PROBLEM AND, AT THE LAST MEETING MR TONGUE.

COLE: MADE THE POINT THAT OSBORNE IS THAT A REASONABLY HIGH POINT WITH ITS WATER RUNNING DOWNHILL INTO TO STORMWATER BASINS, AND I THINK THE PROBLEM IS DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THOSE BASICS IN PLACE IN LARGE STORMS, WE ARE ALL READY GETTING THE FLOODING IT'S HAPPENING.

COLE: AND WE CAN'T IGNORE THAT THE SURROUNDING AREA ALREADY FLOODS AND THAT'S WITHOUT AN ADDITIONAL 450,000 SQUARE FOOT OF BUILDINGS.

COLE: SO I DO THINK THAT BEFORE WE COME UP WITH A GOOD SOLUTION FOR THE FLOODING PROBLEM, IT SEEMS ILL ADVISED, MAYBE EVEN RECKLESS TO GREEN LIGHT ANOTHER ADDITIONAL 450,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING AND REDUCE THE GRASS AND TREES THAT CAN SAY SOAK UP THE WEIGHT RAINWATER AND.

COLE: THANK YOU AGAIN.

KRISTEN WILSON: MICHIGAN.

KRISTEN WILSON: HEY THERE.

PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: I'M HERE, I WANT TO FIRST OF ALL THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME YOU SPENT ON THIS.

PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: PROJECT, I WANT TO THANK MATT ANDERSON FOR HOSTING MY HUSBAND AND I AND AN INVITATION TO OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES TO WALK THE PROPERTY WITH HIM.

PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: I HAPPEN TO BE A VERY VISUAL PERSON, SO I VALUE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THE PROPERTY AND SEE WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SIGHTLINES BUILDINGS HEIGHT LINES.

PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: MATCH DELIGHTFUL BUT HE KNOWS I DIDN'T LIKE THE PLAN, NOR DID MY HUSBAND, THE LETTER YOU HAVE POSTPONING HAS MISSED A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN TOWN, WHO WOULD HAVE SIGNED IT, BUT WE DON'T HAPPEN TO HAVE CHILDREN AND THE LAST ONE I DIDN'T KNOW WAS GOING ON.

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PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: MR TOM I UNDERSTAND THE BATHTUB AND THE DRAINING YOU HAVE A VERY LEAKY BATHTUB.

PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: THIEL AND OSBORNE ROAD IN A HEAVY RAIN, THE TUB IS NOT FILLED, BUT THE WATER IS COMING OUT THROUGH THE WALL ON TO FEEL ROAD AND DOWN OSBORNE ROAD, SO I THINK THERE ARE ISSUES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED WATER BEING ONE OF THEM, THE ALMOST 50% INCREASE IN FLIR THAT.

PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: I DON'T THINK IS RIGHT OR FAIR FOR ANY BUSINESS TO EXPECT THE CITIZENS OF RYE TO ABSORB THAT WHEN NO OTHER BUSINESS COULD GET IT.

PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AMENITIES, AND BY THAT ARE COMPETITIVE THAT ARE PROBABLY NOT USED BY THE OSBORNE HOME, WE HAVE POOLS AVAILABLE, WE HAVE SENIOR CITIZEN.

PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: AMENITIES AVAILABLE THAT THE OSBORNE COULD USE, ALTHOUGH THEY MAY BE A BIT MORE PLEBEIAN THAN SOME OSBORNE RESIDENTS WOULD PREFER THEY'RE AVAILABLE, WE HAVE A VALUABLE COMMUNITY LOTS OF SENIOR CITIZEN OPPORTUNITIES AND AMENITIES THAT AREN'T FULLY UTILIZED.

PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: I DON'T SEE THIS PLAN, THE SIZE OF IT IS IT'S NOT JUST IT'S JUST NOT REASONABLE FOR THIS COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF RYE, WITH THE FLOODING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: GREAT PAINS.

CRAIG HAINES: HI CAN YOU HEAR ME.

CRAIG HAINES: YES, HI IT'S GREAT GAMES TO COLLEGE AVENUE THANKS EVERYBODY AGAIN FOR THE TIME YOU'VE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB OF LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS, WEEK AFTER WEEK AND, MONTH AFTER MONTH AND.

CRAIG HAINES: THIS HAS DRAGGED ON FOR SOME TIME, BUT, AS YOU ARE HEARING TONIGHT THE COMMUNITY STILL IS NOT REALLY HAD AN ABILITY TO HAVE OUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ADDRESS THEY MAY BE HEARD, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'VE BEEN ADDRESSED SO.

CRAIG HAINES: I WOULD JUST ASK YOURSELF, ARE YOU REPRESENTING THE VIEWS OF THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, OR UNANIMOUS AND THEIR CONCERNS AND OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST AND IS THERE A WAY.

CRAIG HAINES: YOU CAN HELP US HAVE OUR CONCERNS FACTORED INTO THE AFRICANS PROPOSAL, SO WE JUST ASK PLEASE VOTE NOTE THAT ROSE LEGEND STANDS AND ASK THE IS MORE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY OVER THE COMING MONTHS, ON A MORE PALATABLE PROPOSAL FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: LAURA LAURA.

LAURA LAURA: CAN EVENING LAURA LAURA 110 THEODORE FRIEND, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THAT YOU DO AND I CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN A HUGE SUPPORTER AND FAN OF THE OSBORNE.

LAURA LAURA: I, THOUGH, AS OF OUR FAMILY HAS HAD THREE GENERATIONS AT OSBORNE SCHOOL AND HIGHLY CONCERNED THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE BLASTING THERE'LL BE OUR CHILDREN AFFECTED.

LAURA LAURA: BY THIS, AND SO CLOSE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT SEEMS NOT TO BE A CONCERN FROM RICE, TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT COULDN'T CONCERN YOU GUYS.

LAURA LAURA: AND THE PARENTS WHO ARE WORRIED, FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND IT'S VERY UNSETTLING THAT SO MANY BEAUTIFUL HOMES IN THAT AREA WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS, SO I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THERE'D BE A COMPROMISE THAT WOULD MEET.

LAURA LAURA: BOTH THE RESIDENTS AND THE OSBORNE AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THIS POSTPONED AND ALSO TO BE IN PERSON, THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH.

KRISTEN WILSON: A MEAL MILTON.

NEIL MIDDLETON: HI EVERYONE, MY NAME IS NEIL MIDDLETON I LIVE AT 330 THEATER ROAD WITH MY WIFE AND TWO CHILDREN AND I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR GIVING US THE TIME TO SPEAK TO THIS EVENING.

NEIL MIDDLETON: AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ECHO A PREVIOUS SPEAKERS IN PARTICULAR AMANDA SEAN AND THEIR COMMENTS THEY MADE EARLIER.

NEIL MIDDLETON: AND I LOOK I ALSO ACCEPT AND AGREE THE OSBORNE RETIREMENT HOMES NEED TO EXPAND AND IMPROVE THEIR FACILITIES, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE US TO HAVE.

NEIL MIDDLETON: A BIT MORE TIME TO DISCUSS, PARTICULARLY AMONGST THE NEIGHBORS AND ALSO WITH MATT AND OTHER OSBORNE REPRESENTATIVES TO FIND.

NEIL MIDDLETON: A MUTUALLY ACCEPTABLE PROPOSAL FOR THIS, SO I WOULD RESPECT RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE COUNCIL DELAY THE VOTE ON THE PROPOSAL UNTIL THE FALL UNTIL THIS HAS HAD THE CHANCE TO TAKE PLACE, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

KRISTEN WILSON: ROSEMARY COPPER COPPER.

ROSEMARY HOCHBERG: CAN YOU HEAR ME.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES, WELCOME.

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ROSEMARY HOCHBERG: YES, HI THIS IS ROSEMARY HOCHBERG AND EVEN FOR 36 PARK AVENUE, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL AND FROM THE AUTHOR AND RESIDENTS AND FROM THE RICE CITY RESIDENT OTHER RICE CITY RESIDENTS AS WELL FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ROSEMARY HOCHBERG: IT HAS A LOT OF GOOD POINTS, AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT A FEW OF THEM TONIGHT, I AGREE THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD IN DEPTH DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO REQUEST ADDITIONAL TIME AND PERHAPS.

ROSEMARY HOCHBERG: THE WEEKEND TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO CONTINUE THIS DIALOGUE WITH THE OSBORNE AND WITH.

ROSEMARY HOCHBERG: CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO FIND A BETTER ANSWERS AND ANSWERS THEY WILL BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE HOW WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND.

ROSEMARY HOCHBERG: WE TRAFFIC AND WATER AND CONSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND I THINK THE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT POINTS TONIGHT WAS SENT BY KATHY.

ROSEMARY HOCHBERG: PAGANS THAT YOU KNOW ONCE ZONING IS APPROVED IT'S REALLY THERE'S NOT MUCH THAT CAN BE DONE AFTER THAT, SO I THINK TONIGHT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO REALIZE THAT IF ZONING IS APPROVED TONIGHT THERE'S NO THERE'S NO REALLY REAL DIALOGUE, AFTER THIS.

ROSEMARY HOCHBERG: HAVE CHANGED, SO I REALLY HOPE THAT.

ROSEMARY HOCHBERG: IF WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME IN THE SUMMER TO CONTINUE TO TO DISCUSS IT, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR EVERYONE, I AGREE WITH AMANDA ALSO THAT.

ROSEMARY HOCHBERG: I DON'T THINK THAT THE TWO SIDES BEFORE MAY SEEM LIKE THAT ARE SO FAR APART, I THINK IT JUST NEEDED A BIT MORE TO TO GET IT TOGETHER, SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CONSIDERATION FOR THE EXTRA TIME FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ROSEMARY HOCHBERG: THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: PRESERVE IT RAZOR VAN RENSBURG.

WELCOME PHRASE.

FRASER VAN RENSBURG: GOOD EVENING EVERYONE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO US AND FOR ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND ALL THE THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR'S CONSIDERATION OF ALL OUR CONCERNS.

FRASER VAN RENSBURG: I WOULD VERY MUCH JUST LIKE TO ECHO THE SAME REQUEST THAT WE THAT THE COUNCIL GRANT AS AN EXTENSION TO THIS DECISION.

FRASER VAN RENSBURG: WE'RE A FAMILY THAT LIVES DIRECTLY OPPOSITE THE GREEN SPACE RIGHT NEXT TO SHAWN PLUMBER, WHO SPOKE EARLIER, WE HAVE FOUR CHILDREN.

FRASER VAN RENSBURG: WHAT IS SORRY 115 OSBORNE ROAD WE HAVE FOUR CHILDREN AGES 87422 OF THEM ARE IN THE OSBORN SCHOOL AT THE MOMENT TO HAVE THE MOST WILL BE GOING TO THE OSBORN SCHOOL.

FRASER VAN RENSBURG: WE'VE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS NOW, AND HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS RELATING TO ALL THE MANY DIFFERENT THINGS WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC CONGESTION, GREEN SPACE FLOODING.

FRASER VAN RENSBURG: BLASTING AND DISRUPTION TO THE SCHOOL AND HOW THAT AFFECTS THE CHILDREN AND THE LEARNING AND AND JUST GENERAL PEACE TO THE TO THE BROADER NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THE OSBORNE.

FRASER VAN RENSBURG: SO IF WE YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN WE JUST ASK US THE SAME THING FROM OUR FAMILY AS MANY OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED THAT WE.

FRASER VAN RENSBURG: THE COUNCIL GRANT US AN EXTENSION TO SOMETIME IN THE FALL, SO THAT WE CAN AGGREGATE TOGETHER AS A TEAM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE BODY THAT IS ABLE TO SPEND TIME WITH THE OSBORNE AND TALK THIS THROUGH PROPERLY, THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: ROBERT VAN PELT.

KRISTEN WILSON: ROBERT.

ROBERT VAN PELT: YEAH ROB ROBERT JAN 29 COLBY AFTERNOON, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT I UNDERSTAND THERE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMENTARY IT, I WOULD AGREE WITH MOST OF THEM.

ROBERT VAN PELT: IF NOT ALL OF THEM, MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS IT IN IT'S MORE PHILOSOPHICAL PUTTING THE FLOODING TRAFFIC SCHOOL CONSIDERATIONS ASIDE IT'S WHAT TOWN, DO WE WANT TO BE.

ROBERT VAN PELT: WHEN I HEAR FOR STOREY BUILDINGS, FIVE, SIX STOREY BUILDINGS THAT'S A RADICALLY DIFFERENT VISION OF THE TOWN THAT WE LIVE IN, THEN.

ROBERT VAN PELT: THEN, THEN WHAT'S WHAT'S CURRENTLY PRESIDENT SO YEAH I WOULD HOPE THAT EVERYONE ON THE CITY COUNCIL I WOULD HOPE THAT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD.

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ROBERT VAN PELT: YOU KNOW, SHARE SIMILAR CONCERNS THAT THIS IS THIS IS MEANINGFULLY DIFFERENT AND IT'S TROUBLING TO ME, AND IN MANY REGARDS.

ROBERT VAN PELT: NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH ARE THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN RAISED, I HAVE TWO CHILDREN.

ROBERT VAN PELT: THAT ARE YOUNG, ONE IS IT OSBORNE ONE WILL BE JOINING US BORN WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS THAT BLASTING IS A CONCERN TO ME AS WELL.

ROBERT VAN PELT: THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS ON OSBORNE ON ON BOSTON POST ROAD OR CONCERN TO ME AS WELL.

ROBERT VAN PELT: THE FLOODING CERTAINLY DURING HURRICANE IDA IT WASN'T JUST INDIAN VILLAGE, IT WAS THE NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORS IF OSBORNE SCHOOL, IN FACT, THE OSBORN SCHOOL ITSELF THAT WERE IMMEDIATELY IMPACTED THAT'S A CONCERN OF MINE, TOO, SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THE OSBORN.

ROBERT VAN PELT: FACILITY WOULD BE WILLING TO COME BACK TO US WITH MORE CONCRETE PLANS AND WHAT THEY HAVE LAID OUT TODAY.

ROBERT VAN PELT: THERE WAS MUCH DEBATE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE NIGHT ABOUT WHICH, FOR THE PLANS HAD BEEN INCLUDED IN THE CITY COUNCIL PACKET WELL, THE ONE THAT I THINK IS MOST MEANINGFUL WAS THE ONE THAT WAS ABSENT.

ROBERT VAN PELT: AT LEAST NOT POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE UNTIL IT MAY STILL NOT BE.

ROBERT VAN PELT: POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE, WHICH SHOWED THE ACTUAL SETBACKS, HOW MANY FEET, HOW MANY YARDS THAT THEY REPRESENT, THIS IS ALL VERY NEW TO RESIDENTS OF RYE.

ROBERT VAN PELT: AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TIME TO RESPOND, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY ON THE CALL HAS BEEN ASKING FOR, AND I WOULD HOPE THE CITY COUNCIL HERE'S THAT.

ROBERT VAN PELT: IS A NEIGHBOR OF THE OSBORNE I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE OSBORNE SUCCEEDING, I WANT THE OSBORNE TO SUCCEED, BUT I WANTED TO SEE IT SUCCEED AND IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE TOWN OF RYE.

ROBERT VAN PELT: IT IS THINKING CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN OF RYE, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE DON'T LOSE WHAT MAKES RICE SPECIAL IN IN THE PROCESS, SO THAT THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, I HOPE YOU HEAR THEM AS YOU'VE HEARD OTHERS.

ROBERT VAN PELT: I DO WISH THAT THE OSBORNE FACILITY, ALL THE BEST, I LOOK FORWARD TO THEIR SUCCESS, I JUST HOPE THAT THERE'S MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP, A PARTNERSHIP THAT SEEMS ABSENT AT LEAST TODAY AND THOSE WOULD BE MY COMMENT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M GONNA I'M GONNA SAY SOMETHING TO MR VAN PELT, BUT WE HAVE BEEN HAVING THESE HEARINGS FOR TWO YEARS.

ROBERT VAN PELT: AND FOR THE.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEARS THE OSBORNE HAS COME BACK WITH SOME CONCESSIONS, THE SETBACKS ARE IN THE PACKET THEY'VE BEEN IN THE PACKET AND THEY AND THEY WERE PUSHED BACK EVEN FURTHER AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SIX STOREY BUILDINGS TAKING DOWN TO FOUR STOREY BUILDINGS, SO I THINK.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S FINE YOU KNOW JUST MISSING FOR ME, WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S NOT CORRECT.

ROBERT VAN PELT: IT'S NOT NOTHING RESTED.

ROBERT VAN PELT: NOT THE REST OF.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE AGENDA IN THE TEXT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

ROBERT VAN PELT: THE ARGUMENTATIVE AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OVER YOU, BUT TO THE SIX RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS YOU'RE CORRECT OR THREE TO FOUR STORIES IN IN IN HEIGHT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: STORY, SO I KNOW.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT.

ROBERT VAN PELT: THAT'S REALLY UNLESS UNLESS I'M.

ROBERT VAN PELT: MISINTERPRETING THE PLAN, THERE ARE TWO OTHER BUILDINGS THAT EXCEED THAT THAT ARE THAT ARE AS MANY AS FIVE OR POSSIBLY SIX STORES AND.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PERHAPS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO WHAT I'M.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU IS WE'RE.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NOT LOOKING AT THE ILLUSTRATIVE PICTURE THAT THEY SENT US, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT IT'S WHAT'S IN BLACK AND WHITE WRITTEN IN WORDS SAYING, THESE ARE THE SETBACKS, THESE ARE THE MAXIMUM STORIES, THESE ARE, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT WAS SOMEBODY.

ROBERT VAN PELT: COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON HE.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS LEADING AND I'M JUST TRYING TO TELL YOU, YOU KNOW JUST TO TO VIGOR YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING THE.

ROBERT VAN PELT: MEMBER JOHNSON WHAT I MIGHT.

ROBERT VAN PELT: SAY IS THIS IS ILLUSTRATIVE OF THE CONFUSION IN THE CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORS AND SO, IF THESE THESE POINTS AREN'T ARTICULATED AND WELL UNDERSTOOD IT'S NO SURPRISE THAT THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES ARE ALARMED.

ROBERT VAN PELT: RIGHT I LOOKED AT THE MOST RECENT PUBLICATION AND THAT'S WHAT IT SUGGESTED, SO IF IF THAT'S FACTUALLY INACCURATE NO WONDER I'M CONCERNED.

NO ONE.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN YOU PLEASE LISTEN.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN YOU PLEASE I HOPE YOU'RE.

ROBERT VAN PELT: NOT HAVE NOT HAVE A NON FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT HAPPENS TO OPERATE IN RIGHT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO VOTE ON IS THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ON THEIR PROPERTY TO BUILD ON SOMEBODY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A LITTLE PICTURE OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WOULDN'T BE WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THE END OF THE DAY, I HOPE, YOU'RE AN ADVOCATE.

ROBERT VAN PELT: APPLYING FOR THE EXCEPTION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE'RE TALKING IT AND ADULTS HERE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND WE SHOULD WE SHOULD MOVE ON.

ROBERT VAN PELT: RIGHT BUT, BUT I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONFUSION.

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JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TRY CLARIFY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH AND CAN I JUST I MADE THIS POINT BEFORE I'M GOING TO MAKE IT AGAIN LET'S YOU KNOW IT, THERE ARE 400 PLUS RESIDENCE IN RY THAT LIVE IN THE OSBORNE NOT INSTITUTION, THESE ARE NEIGHBORS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST PLEASE REMEMBER THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, MAY WE GO TO OUR NEXT SPEAKER.

MARY ANN: HELLO.

MARY ANN: HELLO, AND HERE YOU CALL MY NAME BUT I'M MY NAME IS MARIANNE HAINES I LIVE IT TO COOLIDGE AVENUE.

MARY ANN: AND I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ONE, THE FIRST ONE BEING PROCEDURAL.

MARY ANN: THERE WAS A SECOND PETITION SUBMITTED TO THE CITY OF RYE EARLIER THIS WEEK BY THE FRONTAGE NEIGHBORHOODS REQUESTING.

MARY ANN: A RESPONSE WITH REGARDS TO A THREE FOURTHS MAJORITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL REQUIRED TO PASS A VOTE SHOULD ONE OCCUR.

MARY ANN: I WAS INFORMED THAT I WOULD RECEIVE A RESPONSE AND ADVANCED AT THIS EVENING'S MEETING BUT WE'VE NOT YET RECEIVED THAT RESPONSE, I JUST WANTED TO ENSURE AND HAVE IT NOTED FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD THAT THAT LETTER WAS IN FACT RECEIPT.

MARY ANN: AND THAT A RESPONSE WILL BE FORTHCOMING IN ADVANCE OF ANY VOTE THAT SHOULD TAKE PLACE.

KRISTEN WILSON: IF THE THINGS WE DID RECEIVE IT, I DID ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF IT.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND IT DOES QUALIFY, AND MY APOLOGIES, I THINK IT'S IN MY MAIN RESPONSE VIA EMAIL WAS SENT OUT AND TRIED TO SEND IT OUT BEFORE THE MEETING TONIGHT.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT YOU WILL RECEIVE A FORMAL WRITTEN RESPONSE FROM THE FROM THE CITY FROM THE CITY CLERK BUT FOR TONIGHT'S PURPOSES THAT THREE QUARTERS VOTE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ADOPT THE ZONING AMENDMENT.

MARY ANN: THANK YOU APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION, THE SECOND NOTE THAT I HAVE IS PROCEDURALLY AND AT SOME POINT I'M NOT A LAWYER, I DON'T HAVE A LEGAL BACKGROUND, BUT I'VE DONE A LOT OF READING AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS DISCUSSION, SINCE THE OUTSET.

MARY ANN: I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN TO ME IF THEY COULD PLEASE HOW THE ZONING AMENDMENT PROPOSED BY THE OSBORNE IS COMPLIANT WITH THE NEW YORK STATE JOURNAL CITY LAWS 20 SECTION 25 AND 28 DAY.

MARY ANN: AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO AND COME BACK TO WITH A RESPONSE, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE ZONING AMENDMENT IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE OSBORNE IS COMPLIANT WITH THE NEW YORK STATE LAW.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: MARION CAN YOU.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: HIGHLIGHT YOUR CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY.

MARY ANN: UM I ACTUALLY THE DOCUMENT COUNCIL WOULD HURT I'D BE HAPPY TO SEND TO YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT OUTLINES THOSE I THINK IT'S IT'S TOO GREAT TO GO INTO GREAT DETAIL IN A THREE MINUTE FORUM, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT SAYS THAT.

MARY ANN: IN ORDER FOR A ZONING AMENDMENT TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE NEW YORK STATE LAW AND AGAIN I'M NOT A LAWYER, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS.

MARY ANN: IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE COMPLIANT WITH NEW YORK STATE LAW HAS TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE MASTER PLAN OF RECORD.

MARY ANN: WHICH FOR THE CITY OF RISE 1985 WHICH WAS REAFFIRMED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2000 AND WAS WAS AGAIN REAFFIRM AS BEING THAT OF RECORD.

MARY ANN: DURING THE APPLICATION FOR VENDORS IN 2017 WHEN A NEW MASTER PLAN WAS PUT UP FOR BID I'M HAPPY TO SEND YOU A DOCUMENT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT FURTHER DETAILS THIS.

MARY ANN: AND THE THIRD POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IN THE FEW SECONDS I DO HAVE LEFT IS.

MARY ANN: AS I SAID, I'VE BEEN PART OF THIS DISCUSSION, SINCE THE ONSET AND TONIGHT IS REALLY THE FIRST TIME I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE HAD TO BE HAVE ANY SORT OF A DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH AND.

MARY ANN: I THINK YOU, MR GRABLE FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD AND ALLOWING US TO HAPPEN THIS EVENING.

MARY ANN: I WOULD ASK THAT THE OSBORN ALLOW US TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION IN PERSON GOING FORWARD SO THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY, BOTH THE OSBORNE AND THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON ZONING THAT MAKES US ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE THANK YOU.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO CHRISTIAN ARE WE DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL HERE BY ENTERTAINING ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT BY THE OSBORNE AS MARIANNE POINTS OUT.

KRISTEN WILSON: I.

KRISTEN WILSON: KNOW IT IS AS DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY THAT THE COUNCIL MAY WISH TO VOTE THE.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE ISSUES SURROUNDING THE CITY'S MASTER PLAN OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ARE ADDRESSED IN YOUR NEGATIVE DECLARATION RESOLUTION CONSISTENCY OF THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT.

KRISTEN WILSON: IS WITH THE MASTER PLAN IS ALSO PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM, THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS IN THE ETF THAT ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND.

KRISTEN WILSON: BASED ON THE DOCUMENT YOU HAD BEFORE YOU WE WE HAVE RECOMMENDED OR GIVEN YOU ARE PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH.

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KRISTEN WILSON: THE CITY'S MASTER PLAN OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT'S NOT JUST THE MASTER PLAN IT'S IT'S ALSO OTHER COMMUNITY PLANS AND DOCUMENTS AND POLICIES THAT THE CITY HAS IT'S A.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT'S NOT A ONE DOCUMENT MASTER PLAN THAT THE CITY HAS ITS SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS, SUCH AS THE LW RP AND OTHER ITEMS IN THE CITIES, I GUESS, ON THE CITY'S BOOKSHELVES THAT CONSTITUTE THE MASTER PLAN.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO IT'S A LONG WAY TO SAY YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I SEE WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER UP.

KRISTEN WILSON: ELAINE LEARNER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WELCOME TO LANE.

ELAINE LERNER: I HELLO UM I WANT TO SAY THAT THE OSBORNE IS NOT.

ELAINE LERNER: WHAT PEOPLE ARE AGAINST AT ALL, PEOPLE ARE FOR THE IS BORING BUT NOT FOR THE ZONING.

ELAINE LERNER: AND IT'S MUCH TOO MUCH TOO FAST, MUCH TOO VAGUE OF PLAN.

ELAINE LERNER: IT NEEDS TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, IN ORDER FOR US TO LOOK AT IT.

ELAINE LERNER: IN A POSITIVE WAY AND I JUST TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT FUNNY BUT YOU MATT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT RECREATION THAT THESE GREEN SPACE ON ICE ONE ROAD COULD BE USED.

ELAINE LERNER: COULD YOU USE IT AS A PICKLE BOARD YOU BALL COURT.

ELAINE LERNER: IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS, WHY ON THE ICE BORING.

STEVEN WRABEL: NOT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER, BUT I THINK THE INTENTION OF THE PASSIVE RECREATION AND PAIRING THAT LANGUAGE WITH WALKING PATHS AND GARDENING THE INTENT WAS TO LIMIT IT TO.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: QUIET ENJOYMENT USES THAT'S THAT'S ACCURATE STEEP SO.

ELAINE LERNER: THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: THINK WE HAVE KATIE SIMPSON STROKING YET.

KATIE W SIBSON: HI THIS IS.

KATIE W SIBSON: OSBORNE AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE COUNCIL AGAIN FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK UM MY REQUEST TODAY IS TWOFOLD IN NATURE.

KATIE W SIBSON: FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER AN EXTENSION OF MAKING DECISION.

KATIE W SIBSON: AS I'VE NOTED, SINCE THE LAST MEETING THAT A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE OPPOSED HAVE DECIDED TO COME TOGETHER.

KATIE W SIBSON: AND WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO MATT AND TEAM, SOMETHING THAT WORKS WELL FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED, AND SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY BE SUPPORTERS OF THIS INITIATIVE VERSUS.

KATIE W SIBSON: A TEAM THAT'S KIND OF AGAINST THE WHOLE CURRENT PROPOSAL, AND MY SECOND REQUEST TODAY WOULD BE THAT THE COUNCIL THEREFORE ALSO CONSIDERS VOTING KNOW TODAY.

KATIE W SIBSON: I FEEL THAT THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS OUTSIZED IN ITS REQUEST AND DOESN'T HAVE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, BUT I AM CONFIDENT THAT IF THE COUNCIL WAS TO VOTE NO.

KATIE W SIBSON: TO THE CURRENT REQUEST THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO STILL WORK TOGETHER WITH MATT AND OSBORNE TEAM.

KATIE W SIBSON: AS YOU GUYS HAVE KNOWN FROM THE FIRST MEETING THAT I JOINED I VOLUNTEERED FOR ALMOST HALF A DECADE AT A SENIOR RETIREMENT LIVING CENTER IN THE CITY.

KATIE W SIBSON: AND I REALLY WANT THE OSBORNE TO SUCCEED, I THINK THEY'RE CRITICAL TO OUR COMMUNITY, AS, AS DO ALL OF YOU ACTUALLY.

KATIE W SIBSON: UM AND A VOTE KNOW IS NOT TO SAY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE OSBORNE IT'S, NOT TO SAY THAT WE DON'T WANT THEM AS OUR NEIGHBOR.

KATIE W SIBSON: BUT IT'S JUST A VOTE THAT MAYBE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO WORK BETTER TOGETHER, SO THAT WE ACTUALLY ALL SUPPORT WHAT THEY'RE GOING FOR SO.

KATIE W SIBSON: THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO LEAVE US WITH TODAY AND HAPPY TO COLLABORATE WITH THE OSBORNE GOING FORWARD ON BEHALF OF OUR NEIGHBORS TO COME TO THAT CONSENSUS TOGETHER, THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: JULIE LOVATO.

JULIA LOVALLO: HI CAN YOU HEAR ME.

JULIA LOVALLO: YES, HI MY NAME IS JULIO OF ALL AND I LIVE AT 27 EXCUSE AVENUE.

JULIA LOVALLO: I LIVE HERE WITH MY HUSBAND AND MY FOUR CHILDREN AGES, ONE AND A HALF, TWO AND A HALF, I ECHO AMANDA AND STACEY WE ASKED AT THE COUNCIL FOR IS FROM THE VOTE UNTIL THE FALL.

JULIA LOVALLO: I ARE WE WANT THE SPORT TO SUCCEED AND THRIVE, BUT WE HAVE BIG CONCERNS, AS MENTIONED BY OTHERS, I DO FEEL WE CAN FIND THE MIDDLE GROUND I KNOW WE TIME, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

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KATE VELASQUEZ: BORN SO I'M A DOOR NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET, BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT MY NEIGHBOR.

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KRISTEN WILSON: WAS.

KATE VELASQUEZ: I THINK REQUEST FOR MORE TIME IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT AND I.

KATE VELASQUEZ: AM GOING TO MAKE TONIGHT, THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: GOING BACK TO ROUND TWO DANIELA YOUR BACKUP.

DANIELAARREDONDO: THANK YOU, THANK YOU KRISTEN.

DANIELAARREDONDO: SO, AS MANY OF MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS MENTIONED I'M ALSO I SIGNED MY NAME TO THAT LETTER REQUESTING FOR ADDITIONAL TIME FOR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OSBORNE AND HAVING A CONTINUED DIALOGUE, OF WHAT WHAT FEELS RIGHT.

DANIELAARREDONDO: TO ADD TO MR VAN PELT AND THE CONVERSATION THAT HE HAD WITH.

DANIELAARREDONDO: COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON THE ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN FOR US WAS REALLY MEANINGFUL BECAUSE PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.

DANIELAARREDONDO: HAS BEEN WHERE WOULD THIS BUILDING'S BE BUILT LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT AT THE BEGINNING, WHEN THIS WAS A PROPOSAL HE WAS AND IS STILL YOU KNOW VAGUE, BUT IT GAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY ON WHAT THE INTENTION WAS.

DANIELAARREDONDO: SO IT IS CLEAR TO ME THAT THE THE COTTAGES WOULD BE YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE PICTURE THAT THAT IS PART OF THE PLAN AND YES.

DANIELAARREDONDO: YOU KNOW, FOR US THAT'S A BIG BIG CHANGE THAT'S TREMENDOUS CHANGE THAT WAS ONE OF OUR PRIMARY CONCERNS I DO FEEL THAT WE CAN GET TO AN AGREEMENT, I DO FEEL THAT.

DANIELAARREDONDO: FOR OUR MINOR REQUEST YOU KNOW, IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE NEIGHBORS ARE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO EXTEND THIS, SO WE CAN TALK THROUGH THIS IN PERSON IN A COLLABORATIVE NATURE, WE CAN FIND THAT COMMON GROUND.

DANIELAARREDONDO: AND, AND I HEARD THAT THERE WERE EVEN PEOPLE THAT TRIED TO GO TO THOSE CITY COUNCIL IN PERSON, YOU KNOW IT WAS KIND OF HARD TO TO TO.

DANIELAARREDONDO: INFORM PEOPLE WHERE THE MEETING WAS GOING TO TAKE PLACE, WE DIDN'T KNOW IF HE WAS IN PERSON WE DIDN'T KNOW IF HE WAS THROUGH ZOOM SOME PEOPLE DID ATTEND THE CITY COUNCIL I JUST I JUST LEARNED ABOUT THIS AND THEY'RE LIKE OH WELL, IT WAS THROUGH ZOOM SO.

DANIELAARREDONDO: IN PERSON MEETINGS ARE SO IMPORTANT AND SO RELEVANT TO SEE EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S I THINK THIS IS SUCH A BIG CHANGE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HE NEEDS TO FEEL RIGHT.

DANIELAARREDONDO: AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FEEL, BUT IT DOES DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT AT THIS POINT WE DO CARE ABOUT THE OSBORNE RESIDENTS MY SON WAS PLAYING ON TUESDAY FOR THEM.

DANIELAARREDONDO: AND WHAT A GREAT YES, HE SAYS YOU'RE RIGHT DANNY HE'S EXCITED IT WAS EXCITED SO WHAT.

DANIELAARREDONDO: COMMUNITIES HAVE THAT BEAUTY OF BEING NEXT TO A SCHOOL RIGHT, I MEAN THAT IS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT TALL BUILDINGS, YOU CAN WELL FOR US THAT RELATIONSHIPS SHOULD BE FOSTERED YOU KNOW THAT RELATIONSHIP IS PART OF THEIR AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO.

DANIELAARREDONDO: HEAR BOTH OF OUR CONCERNS SEE WHERE WE CAN COME TO TERMS AND FIND A WAY TO YOU KNOW MAKE RIGHT A PLACE FOR EVERYONE'S.

DANIELAARREDONDO: YOU KNOW VIEWPOINTS TO TO TO BE COLLABORATIVE AND VALID.

DANIELAARREDONDO: SO I'LL ADD MY NAME TO THE THE THE EXTENSION OF THIS HEARING.

KRISTEN WILSON: SOME NEW NAMES, THOUGH.

KRISTEN WILSON: LINDSEY LORRAINE.

LINDSAY LORRAINE: HI EVERYONE I'M LINDSAY LORRAINE I'M AT 60 ALLENDALE DRIVE WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR TIME TONIGHT AND JUST WANTED TO VOICE.

LINDSAY LORRAINE: THAT I AM WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE REQUESTED THAT WE DELAY A VOTE TONIGHT, I THINK THAT WE'RE HAVING AGAIN MEANINGFUL DISCUSSIONS.

LINDSAY LORRAINE: AND FINALLY GETTING SOME CLARITY ON SOME POINTS OF CONFUSION, ONE THAT REMAINS FOR ME IS AGAIN SORT OF THE EXISTING FAR AVAILABLE TO THE OSBORNE AND.

LINDSAY LORRAINE: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 90,000 SQUARE FEET LEFT FOR EXPANSION AND UPGRADING PURPOSES.

LINDSAY LORRAINE: YOU KNOW, A TYPICAL WHOLE FOOD SITE IS NEEDS TO BE BETWEEN 25 AND 50,000 SQUARE FEET SO SEEMS LIKE QUITE A BIT OF SPACE AND.

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LINDSAY LORRAINE: I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN MORE DISCUSSIONS ON UNDERSTANDING WHY THAT ISN'T ENOUGH SHARING CONCERNS WITH THE COMMUNITY AROUND FLOODING.

LINDSAY LORRAINE: PEDESTRIAN SAFETY TRAFFIC I'D ALSO JUST POINT OUT THAT WE'VE JUST COMPLETED AS A TOWN, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ST REGIS WHICH PROVIDES HOUSINGS TO OUR RESIDENTS 55 PLUS.

LINDSAY LORRAINE: AND YOU KNOW WELL, A GREAT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE MORE DIALOGUE ON WHAT THIS MEANS FOR OUR TOWN OVERALL THANK YOU GUYS.

KRISTEN WILSON: BEAR BROWN.

DAIRE BROWNE: WELCOME, GOOD EVENING GUYS KELLY BE OKAY.

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DAIRE BROWNE: THANK YOU, AMERICAN COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME ONCE AGAIN ON THIS MATTER.

DAIRE BROWNE: I'D LIKE TO PLEASE ENCOURAGE MASS ON THE TEAM REPRESENTING THE OSBORNE TO SPEND JUST THREE TO FOUR MONTHS MORE WORKING ON THIS WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO TRY TO ACHIEVE A COMPROMISE.

DAIRE BROWNE: THERE ARE REASONABLE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ARGUMENT AND AND THEY'RE ALL WILLING TO COMPROMISE I'VE TALKED TO BOTH BOTH SIDES AND.

DAIRE BROWNE: TO BE HONEST, IF THEY CAN REACH A SOLUTION, SO BE IT AND LET THE COUNCIL VOTE AT THAT TIME IN GOOD FAITH, KNOWING THAT THEY FULLY RESPONDED TO THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY.

DAIRE BROWNE: FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO REFRESH REFRESH ITS MASTER PLAN TO INCORPORATE COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY FOR THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT.

DAIRE BROWNE: ALL THE FLOODING RISKS THAT WERE OUTLINED TONIGHT, THE NEED FOR IMPORTANT COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY IN THE TOWN, SUCH AS THE OSBORNE BUT, ABOVE ALL, INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY IN A THOUGHTFUL WAY.

DAIRE BROWNE: I'M PERSONALLY AND DEEPLY CONCERNED THAT TAKING THIS TO A VOTE TONIGHT IS AN INCREMENTAL STEP AND A POOR DECISION THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CREATE A STANDARD FOR ALL OF THE COMMUNITY OF RYE, INCLUDING WHERE I LIVE, QUITE FAR FROM THE OSBORNE.

DAIRE BROWNE: PLEASE, PLEASE ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO REACH A COMPROMISE WITH THE OSBORNE THEN LET'S WORK THOUGHTFULLY TOWARDS A MASTER PLAN FOR RIGHT THANK YOU.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS, FOR THE RECORD.

DAIRE BROWNE: SURE 129 GRANDVIEW AVENUE, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: SABRINA TAVI.

SABRINA TAVI: THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU MAYOR COHEN, AND MEMBER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE OSBORNE FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO RESIDENT CONCERNS I RESIDE AT NINE OSBORNE ROAD WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

SABRINA TAVI: I THINK ONE POINT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, WHICH I BELIEVE THAT MANY RESIDENTS HAVE HIGHLIGHTED TONIGHT, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE IS THAT RESIDENTS WHO HAVE RAISED CONCERNS.

SABRINA TAVI: ABOUT THIS ZONING CHANGE AND THIS DEVELOPMENT ARE NOT OPPOSED TO THE OSBORNE WE WANT TO SEE THE OSBORNE SUCCEED.

SABRINA TAVI: WHEN MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED HERE TO OSBORNE ROAD, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DREW US TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS IN FACT THE OSBORNE FACILITY, WE THOUGHT THE GROUNDS WERE LOVELY AND WE LOVED THE OPEN SPACE AND.

SABRINA TAVI: WE LIKED KNOWING THAT THERE WAS A LONG STANDING INSTITUTION THERE THAT WOULD CONTINUE AND CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT CHARACTERISTIC OF NEIGHBORHOODS SO YOU KNOW WHEN I HEAR.

SABRINA TAVI: CONVERSATION ABOUT YOU KNOW THAT RESIDENTS WHO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, OR JUST OPPOSED TO THE OSBORNE OR WE'RE JUST YOU KNOW.

SABRINA TAVI: ARE NOT SENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS, I SUPPOSE, OF YOU KNOW, THE POPULATION THERE I THAT CONCERNS ME GREATLY, AND I HOPE THAT IT'S COME ACROSS THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

SABRINA TAVI: I DO WANT TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW, IF ANYTHING, NOT BEING REALLY FAMILIAR WITH HOW THESE PROCESSES WORK WHAT'S BEEN CONFUSING FOR ME IS THAT.

SABRINA TAVI: IF I'VE HAD ANY FRUSTRATIONS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU IT'S NOT WHAT THE OSBORNE IS WITH THE CITY OF RYE IT'S WITH THE FACT THAT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS AN ISSUE THAT MY FAMILY OTHER MEMBER FAMILIES OF THIS CALL TO SAC WHERE WE RESIDE AND OTHER OTHER FAMILIES UP AND DOWN OSBORNE.

SABRINA TAVI: IN RYE GARDENS AND THROUGHOUT RIGHT HAVE RAISED REGARDING PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THE CROSSWALK.

SABRINA TAVI: NOT TO MAKE THIS PERSONAL THAT I'VE BEEN IN MY FAMILY AND RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR TO ENSURE.

SABRINA TAVI: STUDENT SAFETY GOING OVER TO THE OSBORN SCHOOL AND THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF PEDESTRIAN SAFETY THAT HAS REMAINED UNADDRESSED AND SO WHEN WE SEE THE CITY OF RYE ENTERTAINING THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT.

SABRINA TAVI: IS GOING TO INTRODUCE MORE TRAFFIC AND HAVING NOT ADDRESSED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY THAT YOU KNOW WAS RAISED I'LL TELL YOU, LONG BEFORE ANY OF YOU CAME ON TO THIS COUNCIL.

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SABRINA TAVI: AS FAR AS 20 YEARS AGO BY OUR NEIGHBORS HERE AND THAT'S REALLY CONCERNING AND I HAVE YOU KNOW GREAT CONCERNS I WAS LOOKING BACK I CAN'T FIND THE MOST RECENT TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT I SEE ONE FROM FEBRUARY OF 2021, WHICH WAS A YEAR AND A HALF OLD.

SABRINA TAVI: DISCUSSING HOW IT NEEDED TO BE UPDATED AFTER THE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW HEAD EAST AND NORMAL TRAFFIC PATTERNS HAD CAN RESUME SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN UPDATED ONE, BUT YOU KNOW I'M JUST BASICALLY HIGHLIGHTING.

SABRINA TAVI: MY PRIMARY CONCERN WHICH IS PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND EXPRESSING MY FRUSTRATION.

SABRINA TAVI: THE CITY OF RIGHT HASN'T ADDRESSED.

SABRINA TAVI: THIS THIS PROBLEM.

SABRINA TAVI: FOR YOUR TIME.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: WASN'T UPDATED TRAFFIC STUDY IT WAS WE DISCUSSED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING IT'S ON THE WEBSITE ON THE CITY WEBSITE SO YOU CAN REFER TO THAT IT, AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING IT.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: I'M SORRY I'M LOSING MY WORDS HERE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: THE ANTICIPATED INCREASE IN TRAFFIC IS FIVE CARS PER PEAK HOUR AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION WITH PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, I THINK THAT.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: IS THE DIFFERENT ISSUE AND HOPEFULLY YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY COMMITTEE TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON THAT CERTAINLY SOMETHING THE CITY'S BEEN WORKING ON FOR A LONG TIME WELL.

SABRINA TAVI: THANK YOU EMILY I APPRECIATE THAT YOU MIGHT YOU'RE CORRECT LIKE AN INTEREST IN HIGHLIGHTING THE DISTINCTION, MY CONCERN IS LESS ABOUT THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC AND AND ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT IT AFFECTS PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT GOES, YEAR AFTER YEAR.

SABRINA TAVI: NEEDING TO BE ADDRESSED SO.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: I'M POWERS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WELCOME JOHN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JOHN ARE YOU THERE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JOHN POWERS.

JOHN POWERS: WE GOT IT CAN YOU HEAR ME.

JOHN POWERS: YES, HI SORRY THIS IS EMILY POWERS AT 23 COOLIDGE AVENUE.

JOHN POWERS: I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN TOTALLY AGREE NO ONE'S OPPOSE THE OSBORNE AT ALL LOOKING TOWARDS THE MOST PRODUCTIVE LONG TERM OUTCOME, I THINK THE COUNCIL SAYING YES TONIGHT DOESN'T MAKE THIS COMMUNITY CONCERN DISAPPEAR.

JOHN POWERS: THERE HAVE BEEN HUNDREDS I'M SURE LETTERS COMMENTS.

JOHN POWERS: EMAILS FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT I KNOW, THE COUNCIL HAS GOTTEN TIME AND AGAIN, AND I THINK IT WILL REALLY ONLY CONTINUE TO REAR ITS HEAD AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

JOHN POWERS: I THINK WHAT THE COMP, THE COUNCIL AND WHAT THE OSBORNE WOULD WANT IS FOR.

JOHN POWERS: THE OSBORNE IN THE COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH A COLLABORATIVE SOLUTION THAT WILL BE SUPPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY FROM HERE FORWARD.

JOHN POWERS: AND THE COUNCIL CAN LET THIS SERVE AS AN EXAMPLE THAT CAN BE CELEBRATED ULTIMATELY AS A MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT AND HOW THE COMMUNITY IS ABLE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS, THE FUTURE.

JOHN POWERS: THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

SUE DROUIN: EVERYONE TO DRIVEN 57 MOREHEAD DRIVE I HAVE WATCHED THE PROCEEDINGS AND TRIED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSIONS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO REPEAT THIS REQUEST TO DELAY A ZONING VOTE.

SUE DROUIN: UNTIL THE OSBORNE AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET NOT IN A MARKETING PITCH MEETING THIS IS TOO IMPORTANT TO RUSH.

SUE DROUIN: IT MAY SEEM ODD TO THOSE NOT PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS DISCUSSION, BUT THE HOUSE WEREN'T ACTUALLY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT ZONING CHANGES WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE COMMUNITY.

SUE DROUIN: AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET IN A COLLABORATIVE FASHION, HAS NEVER BEEN OFFERED UNTIL NOW AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE ASKING THE OSBORNE TO COME TO THE TABLE.

SUE DROUIN: MORE WORK AND REFINEMENT OF THE ZONING PROPOSAL IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO GET THIS RIGHT FOR EVERYONE POTENTIAL FUTURE OSBORNE HOME RESIDENTS.

SUE DROUIN: FUTURE GENERATIONS OF STUDENTS AND AS WE'RE IN SCHOOL NEIGHBORS ALL AROUND RIGHT THAT ENJOY THIS PART OF TOWN AND, FRANKLY, THE MAJESTIC TREES THAT I ENJOY EVERY DAY.

SUE DROUIN: CONSIDER THE LENGTH OF TIME IT HAS TAKEN FOR THE CITY OF RIDE TO EVEN BEGIN TO GET COMFORTABLE WITH THE UNITED HOSPITAL REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SUE DROUIN: THIS PURELY DISCRETIONARY ZONING CHANGE WILL FUNDAMENTALLY ALTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOREVER.

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SUE DROUIN: AGAIN, I ASKED THE COUNCIL PLEASE ALLOW THIS PROCESS FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND DELAY UNTIL THE FALL, THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: OH.

COLE: HI THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK AGAIN I'LL BE VERY BRIEF.

COLE: I KNOW I SAID EARLIER THAT WE'RE NOT AGAINST THE OSBORNE I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED MY WIFE AND MY MY DOG OUR DOG SHE GOT THE DOG REGISTERED AS A THERAPY DOG AND THEY VISITED WITH RESIDENTS OF THE OSBORNE FOR THREE YEARS.

COLE: BUT, MORE IMPORTANTLY, I JUST WANTED TO COME BACK AND SAY THAT I AGREE WITH THOSE WHO ARE SUGGESTING A DELAY IT'S OBVIOUS TO ME THAT MORE TIME AND MORE DIALOGUE WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

COLE: BUT IF THERE IS A VOTE FOR US THIS EVENING, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU VOTE NOW, AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME AGAIN.

KRISTEN WILSON: LESLIE.

LESLIE EBERS: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HEARING ME.

LESLIE EBERS: I DO I NEED TO RESTATE IT'S WHEN 38 OSBORNE ROAD.

LESLIE EBERS: YOU KNOW I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FORMAT THAT THIS HAS TAKEN TONIGHT, A APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT AFTER I RAISED POINTS THERE WAS ACTUALLY A DISCUSSION, SO I FELT LIKE THINGS WERE BETTER UNDERSTOOD.

LESLIE EBERS: A DO WANT TO BRING UP THE THE BIT WHERE WE WERE SPEAKING OVER ONE ANOTHER, NOT ME, BUT OTHER NEIGHBORS.

LESLIE EBERS: THE GENTLEMAN WAS TRYING TO MAKE THE POINT THAT THE WHOLE THING IS VERY CONFUSING AND I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN TO THIS POINT BEFORE.

LESLIE EBERS: ABOUT EVERYBODY LEARNS IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND ENVISIONS THINGS IN DIFFERENT WAYS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE OSBORN HOME THEY CAME.

LESLIE EBERS: WITH A THEORETICAL DRAWING AND IT MIGHT NOT BE THE BE ALL END ALL OF WHAT IT ENDS UP.

LESLIE EBERS: BUT IT IS CONFUSING AND AT THIS POINT IT'S BEEN MANY PAGES AND MANY REVISIONS SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO WADE THROUGH.

LESLIE EBERS: AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT WHAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING VOTING ON TONIGHT ISN'T ABOUT THOSE EXACT BUILDINGS, BUT THE POINT IS.

LESLIE EBERS: YOU YOU'VE SAT THROUGH HOURS AND HOURS OF THIS, AND SO HAVE MANY OF US AND WE'RE ASKING YOU NOT TO RUSH TO A VOTE WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PLEASE ALLOW THE CONVERSATION TO CONTINUE.

LESLIE EBERS: TO SHED ADDITIONAL LIGHT AND TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE ON, EVENTUALLY, PLEASE DELAY THE BOAT, THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: YEAH OF COURSE MOST.

DAN CHOROST: HI EVERYBODY, GOOD EVENING IT'S IN CHORUS FROM NINE, I WAS BORN ROAD.

DAN CHOROST: PRETTY READY HI HI THERE.

DAN CHOROST: THANKS, THE COUNCIL AND TO THE OSBORNE AND EVERYBODY ELSE FOR FOR PARTICIPATING.

DAN CHOROST: WE LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUPER BLOCK THAT HOUSES, THE OSBORN SCHOOL AND AND THE OSBORNE HOME.

DAN CHOROST: MY NEIGHBORS AND I THINK IT WAS FIVE HOUSES WROTE A LETTER BACK IN FEBRUARY FEBRUARY 24 2021 SO I KNOW IT'S IN THE RECORD, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE A POINT BECAUSE I'VE HEARD IT, OR AT LEAST THE THE PRINCIPLE OF IT RAISED SEVERAL TIMES TODAY AND THAT REALLY IS.

DAN CHOROST: A REQUEST FOR MORE CONVERSATION AND MORE COLLABORATION AND AND IN OUR LETTER WE WROTE THAT THE MASTER PLAN.

DAN CHOROST: IS A VERY OLD DOCUMENT.

DAN CHOROST: YOU KNOW I PERSONALLY I'M I LOVE THE OSBORNE HOME, AND I WANT THEM TO BE HERE FOR AS LONG AS THEY WANT TO BE HERE, I THINK THEY THEY.

DAN CHOROST: ADD IMMENSE VALUE TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

DAN CHOROST: AND I DEEPLY RESPECT THEIR THEIR NEEDS AND THEIR DESIRES, BUT YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS NEEDS AND DESIRES.

DAN CHOROST: EVERYONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND AND MY FEELING AND WHAT WE WROTE ABOUT PARTIALLY WHAT WE WROTE ABOUT IN THE FEBRUARY 2021 LETTER.

DAN CHOROST: WAS THAT THE WHOLE POINT OF A MASTER PLAN, WHEN YOU DO AN UPDATE IS FOR A COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER TO TO TALK ABOUT WHAT EVERYONE NEEDS AND WHAT EVERYONE WANTS AND TO WORK TOWARD CONSENSUS, SO I THINK THAT'S A POINT THAT IT'S COME UP TONIGHT I THINK IT'S A POINT WORTH REITERATING.

DAN CHOROST: AND I WILL SEE THE REST OF MY TIME WITH WITH GRATITUDE TO THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR WORK, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

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KRISTEN WILSON: ELAINE LEARNER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LANEY THERE.

ELAINE LERNER: UM I DIDN'T MEAN TO COME ON NOW, BUT MY COMPUTER DECIDED THAT I SHOULD UM I I WIND, I ASK, WHEN YOU WANT TO BUILD A ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE AND YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE MONEY YOU GO FOR A MORTGAGE CORRECT.

ELAINE LERNER: YOU FIND WAY NOW THE US FOR AND HAS A VERY HIGH RATING AND THEY HAVE THIS SPACE AND THEY HAVE THE IDEA OF WHAT THEY WANT TO BUILD ON WHAT THEY ON THE PROPERTY THEY ALREADY HAVE.

ELAINE LERNER: WHY IS IT, SUCH A BIG PROBLEM TO NOT START WITH WITH WHAT YOU HAVE NOT WITH WHAT YOU WANT, NOT WITH WHAT YOU WISH, BUT WHAT YOU HAVE.

ELAINE LERNER: THANK YOU.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): AMANDA TO CHECK 61 I WAS BORN ROAD, I STILL GO WITH SOME OF YOU OVER THE LAST DAY OR TWO, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE FULL COUNCIL.

KRISTEN WILSON: AMANDA.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): KIND OF WHAT TRANSPIRED THIS WEEKEND WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THAT THE AGENDA CAME OUT ON FRIDAY.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): WE SENT OUT AN EMAIL BY SATURDAY WE HAD 15 PEOPLE IN THEIR DRIVEWAY SHARING IDEAS.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): ON SUNDAY, WE HAD 25 PEOPLE STANDING ON A SIDEWALK SHARING IDEAS IN PERSON, AGAIN, AND IT FELT REALLY GOOD TO BE ABLE TO.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): COME TOGETHER IN PERSON SHARE OUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS PROCESS SHARE WHERE OUR DESIRES LIED WHERE WE WERE COMFORTABLE.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): AND BY SUNDAY NIGHT WE HAD A LETTER THAT WE WERE ASKING PEOPLE TO SIGN ON.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): AND BY MONDAY, WE WERE ABLE TO SEND IN A LETTER WITH 141 SIGNATURES THAT WE HAD A GROUP COHESION AROUND AN IDEA THAT JUST A LITTLE MORE TIME WE CAN GET TO A PLACE THAT FEELS GOOD.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): AND I THINK THAT EVIDENCE IS THAT NEIGHBORS CAN COME TOGETHER, WE CAN GET TO A SINGULAR THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT OUTCOME AND THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY MATT AND I HAVE HAD MORE CONVERSATIONS.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): THAN I HAVE WITH A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE IN MY LIFE AND WE'RE ON DIFFERENT SIDES, SOMETIMES, BUT I THINK WE'RE VERY RESPECTFUL AND KIND, AND I THINK THERE'S.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): AN ABILITY TO COLLABORATE WITH NEIGHBORS AND WITH THE OSBORNE AND I THINK THAT JUST GIVEN A LITTLE MORE TIME WE CAN REALLY GET TO THE PLACE THAT FEELS GOOD FOR ALL, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): SHARE WITH YOU ALL THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE HAPPENING, THIS WEEKEND THAT THE GROUNDWORK IS BEING BUILT TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN COLLABORATE AND COME TOGETHER.

AMANDA TIMCHAK (SHE/HERS): AND WE JUST REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO AND THAT, GIVEN THAT WE COULD GET TO 141 PEOPLE IN THE SAME PLACE IN 48 HOURS, I THINK WE CAN ALSO GET TO A ZONING SOLUTION THAT FEELS GOOD FOR ALL IN A TIMELINE THAT IS AN UNCOMFORTABLE FOR ANYONE THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: ONE MORE HAND TRISHA GAGAN.

PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: WANT TO COMMAND IT FOR HER COMMENTS, I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT THOSE HUNDRED AND 41 REPRESENT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAPPENED TO HAVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN AND THE OSBORNE.

PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: THERE ARE LARGE NUMBER OF US WHO HAVE LONG SINCE PASSED OSBORNE SCHOOL CHILDREN WENT THROUGH WERE STILL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE HAVE NOT YET BEEN PART OF THAT AND THOSE HUNDRED AND 41 WOULD BE 200 SIGNATURES IN A HEARTBEAT.

PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: WOULD WE REACH OUT TO EVERYONE IN JUST THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SO PLEASE THINK AND GIVE US A CHANCE TO COMMUNICATE.

PATRICIAD.GEOGHEGAN: THOROUGHLY UNDERSTAND THOROUGHLY AND MAKE REASONABLE CONCESSIONS, THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: WE HAVE ONE MORE HAND.

KRISTEN WILSON: ISN'T YOU.

SUSAN YU: HI THIS IS SUSAN YOU AND I LIVE AT THREE OSBORNE ROAD DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM OSBORNE ELEMENTARY, I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT I SHARE IN THE.

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SUSAN YU: AS AN INFORMED MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CONFUSION, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE TONE OF TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION THERE SHOULDN'T BE THIS MUCH CONFUSION OF A HUGE VOTE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

SUSAN YU: THERE'S STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS OUR FAMILIES AND OUR NEIGHBORS REQUEST FOR MORE TIME AND MORE COLLABORATION.

SUSAN YU: WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND WITH THE OSBORNE AND WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL SUPPORT A COLLABORATIVE DISCUSSION THAT WOULD ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND HAVE THESE DIRECT ANSWERS THAT WOULD PROVIDE US WITH CLARITY AND TOWARDS A PLAN.

SUSAN YU: THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO BOTH THE OSBORNE AND OUR COMMUNITY, SO I STAND WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME FROM THE COUNCIL AND TO TO TO GET SOME MORE QUESTIONS ANSWERED THAT WOULD MAKE US FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT THE PLAN BEING PROPOSED THANK YOU SO MUCH.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IF THERE ARE NO MORE PUBLIC SPEAKERS I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE WE'RE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: FOR THOSE OF US ON THE COUNCIL WE'VE BEEN MEETING NOW FOR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALMOST FOUR HOURS THAT WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

KRISTEN WILSON: MR AIR SORRY TO INTERRUPT WE DO HAVE ONE LAST MINUTE HAND HERE.

KRISTEN WILSON: BOBBY META.

RAVI MEHTA: YEAH THANKS, THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY LAST COMMENT HERE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN ON FOR WHAT SEEMS LIKE FOUR HOURS MAYOR SO I'M RAVI META LIVE AT 25 SONG DRIVE JUST OFF OF BOSTON POST TWO CHILDREN THAT OSBORNE ELEMENTARY.

RAVI MEHTA: I JUST WANT TO ECHO ALL THE COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE BY FELLOW RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN AND AROUND THE OSBORNE AND I WAS BORN ELEMENTARY.

RAVI MEHTA: I AM EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DISRUPTION TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THAT IS MY MAIN ISSUE, OF COURSE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED THAT I ALSO SUPPORT AND BELIEVE IN NOW, I SHOULD MENTION THAT THE THE OSBORNE FACILITY, THE.

RAVI MEHTA: THE OSBORNE IS IS A MEANINGFUL AND IMPORTANT PART OF THE COMMUNITY, AND IN FACT IT CREATES A IMPORTANT TO RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OSBORN ELEMENTARY AND THE BROADER COMMUNITY OF RYE.

RAVI MEHTA: HOWEVER, I DO REQUEST AND AND AND HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL DO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO LISTEN TO THE ALL THE VOICES HERE THAT YOU'VE HEARD.

RAVI MEHTA: AND GRANT THE EXTENSION THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT ALL SIDES HAVE HEARD BEEN HURT TO THIS PROCESS AND THAT ALL OPINIONS HAVE BEEN.

RAVI MEHTA: TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE ULTIMATE PLAN IS, BUT I WILL LEAVE WITH THIS FINAL POINT IS JUST BACK TO THE MAIN ISSUE I HAVE IS.

RAVI MEHTA: AROUND THE DISRUPTION TO THE SCHOOL AND STUDENTS, PLEASE PUT YOURSELVES IN THE SHOES OF THE PARENTS THAT SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO THE SCHOOL TO ELLSBERG ELEMENTARY.

RAVI MEHTA: I DON'T EXPECT THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE CHILDREN'S SCHOOL, PERHAPS YOU DO, BUT IF YOU DON'T PLEASE PUT YOURSELVES IN THE SHOES OF PARENTS THAT SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO THE SCHOOL AND YOU SHOULD HOPEFULLY HERE, AND SOME OF OUR VOICES THE TRUE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE, THANK YOU.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO I WILL PROPOSE AGAIN IF IT MEETS WITH THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND PLEASE COME BACK QUICKLY AND LET'S GO ON.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY, I I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF, AFTER ALL OF THAT WE COULD HEAR FROM THE OSBORNE IF THERE WERE ANY RESPONSES THAT YOU CARE TO MAKE ANY OF THE QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU DIDN'T.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I WOULD IN PARTICULAR APPRECIATE.

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JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HEARING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE RESPONSE TO THE NOTION THAT THERE WILL BE BLASTING AND HOW THE OSBORN WOULD INTEND TO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TAKE TAKE TAKE ACCOUNT OF CONCERNS THAT SCHOOL DISTURBANCE.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: OR, THANK YOU, THANK YOU JOSH I'M NOW ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE HEIGHT ON THESE BUILDINGS IS TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO THE GROUND DEEP TO PHYSICALLY DO ANY BLASTING THAT'S TO PUT THE PARKING ON THAT FIRST FLOOR LEVEL TO DO NOT HAVE TO GO FURTHER DOWN.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: AND AS FAR AS BLASTING GOES, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT EVER HAD TO BE DONE IN REGARDS TO DOING SOMETHING THAT MADE.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: SOME LEVEL OF LOUD NOISE OR IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT HAD TO BE SHIPPED WHICH I KNOW WE DIDN'T ENCOUNTER MUCH WHEN WE PUT IN THE GARDEN HOMES AND OTHER THINGS FROM TALKING TO THE PREVIOUS YOU KNOW.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: THAT WOULD BE ALL DISCUSSED WITH THE SCHOOL, WE WOULD TRY TO PLAN THAT AROUND THE SUMMER MONTHS IN OR A TIMES WHEN THE SCHOOL IS IN THAT SESSION.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: AGAIN, WE HAVE A VERY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL IT'S SOMETHING THAT I TREASURED MY KIDS HAVE GONE THROUGH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND I UNDERSTAND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THERE, OF COURSE, IS IS BEEN A REQUEST FOR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE US OR INTO ENTER INTO A PROCESS AND THE OSBORNE MAY FEEL THAT IT HAS ENTERED INTO A PROCESS, AND SO I DO APPRECIATE THE OSBORNE RESPONSE TO THAT REPEATED INVITATION.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: TO JOSH I YOU KNOW I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THAT'S BEEN SAID TONIGHT, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID TO ME OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY HAS SAID, HAS BEEN WELL CONCERTED DURING THOSE TIMES AND.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: YOU KNOW I FEEL WE'VE ACTED IN REALLY GOOD FAITH, YOU KNOW THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS DURING THIS LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: WE'VE BEEN VERY UPFRONT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE ESTABLISHED OUR NOT ONLY OUR WEBSITE THAT GIVES ACCESS TO ALL THE DIFFERENT INFORMATION.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: THE Q AND A'S THAT ARE ON THAT SITE WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS, WITH NOT ONLY THE WALKING TOURS.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: WE'VE HELD ZOOM MEETINGS OVER THE TIME I PULLED HELD MANY, MANY SEPARATE MEETINGS I WALK IN WITH INDIVIDUALS AROUND THIS THIS THIS CAMPUS BUT NOT ONLY THAT PHONE CALLS AS WELL, SO.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: AGAIN.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: I REALLY FEEL THAT WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE PREPARED A WELL CONSIDERED AND WELL BALANCED PIECE OF LEGISLATION, I GUESS, IS THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT, YOU KNOW WE WE STARTED THIS PROCESS THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO WITH A BIGGER ASK.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: THAT WAS CARB DOWN AFTER A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE CAME BACK TO THIS GROUP IN IN 2020 AND AND FURTHER HURT AND WE LISTENED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROCESS, WHETHER A VOTE IS HELD TONIGHT.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: AND IF THE ZONING IS PUT THROUGH YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ALL THAT CONTINUES THAT WON'T STOP THOSE THOSE MEETINGS AND THINGS WE'VE BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO TO TRY IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR 114 YEARS AND WE WANT TO HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP WHAT WE'VE PUT FORTH IN IN THIS PROPOSAL AGAIN.

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MATTHEW ANDERSON: IT'S BEEN PARED DOWN FROM WHAT WE REALLY, REALLY WANTED, BUT THIS IS THIS IS AS FAR AS WE FEEL WE CAN GO AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND AND AGAIN WE FEEL IT'S A WELL CONSIDERED A WELL BALANCED PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT OFFERS PROTECTIONS SOME PROTECTIONS THAT AREN'T EVEN THERE AT THIS TIME.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THEIR QUESTION IS FROM THE COUNCIL FOR A MINUTE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JOSH NATHAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN YOU HEAR ME.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, THANKS I'M.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST JUST TO THAT LAST POINT, I APPRECIATE THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF OUTREACH BY THE ARTIST BORN IN COMMUNICATION IN A VARIETY OF WAYS OVER.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, SEVERAL YEARS AND I THINK EVERY EFFORT THAT YOU'VE MADE MATT AND THAT YOUR BOARD IS MADE AND AND YOUR RESIDENCE HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY TRANSPARENT IN IN IN EVERY WAY YOU COULD AND GENUINE AND THOUGHTFUL AND YOU'VE CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WILLINGNESS TO BE RESPONSIVE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND AND CLEAR IN WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO OR OR OR OR OR WILLING TO DO AND NOT GOING TO DO, AND I REALLY RESPECT THAT I APPRECIATE IT YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH ME, I KNOW YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE, AND I KNOW YOU SPENT AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME WITH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: VARIOUS RESIDENTS AS THEY REQUESTED.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ME TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE CITY ADJOURNED THE HEARING FROM MARCH UNTIL MAY, BECAUSE YOU WERE DOING FURTHER REFINEMENT AND STUDIES IN WORK AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY APPROPRIATE I TOOK THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN THAT YOU WANT TO GET IT RIGHT AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT AND NOW THE NEIGHBORS ARE ASKING THAT THEY'VE REALLY BEEN WRAPPING THEIR HEAD AROUND A PLAN THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW THE FINAL VERSION OF WAS WAS POSTED AFTER SOME VERY THOUGHTFUL AND IMPORTANT ADJUSTMENTS THAT YOU MADE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON I THINK IT WAS MAY 27 OR 25TH WHICHEVER, WHATEVER THEIR LAST OUR LAST MEETING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT THEY THEY RECEIVED THAT PLAN ON FRIDAY, FIVE DAYS AGO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THEY QUICKLY WENT THROUGH IT AND THEY MET AND THEY GOT TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY APPRECIATED THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I SPOKE WITH THEM, I MET AT SOME OF THEIR MEETINGS, AND I SAID, YOU KNOW YOU'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU WANT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO, HOW DOES MATT KNOW WHAT YOU WANT, HOW DOES ANY YOU KNOW YOU'VE ASKED YOU, YOU RAISE ISSUES ABOUT THE SCHOOL AND YOU KNOW THAT'S SCHOOL AS INCOMING SAID.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT THEY HAVE AN ISSUE BECAUSE THEY DON'T AS FAR AS I KNOW WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD, AND I USED TO BE ON THE BOARD OF THAT AND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FROM AN EDUCATION STANDPOINT I WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE CONSTRUCTION IS PART OF LIFE AND SCHOOLS GO THROUGH IT THEMSELVES.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS NARROWING OF THE ISSUES IN THE MINDS OF THOSE WHO ARE REALLY AT THE CORE OF TRYING TO GET THIS TO WORK OUT, I THINK THE ISSUES ARE DISCRETE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND WHEN I WOULD ASK YOU TO DO IS AGREE TO ME WITH THEM AND TO PUT THIS OVER I KNOW THEY'VE ASKED FOR OCTOBER AND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW I THAT'S THEIR ASK.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I WOULD ASK YOU TO INVITE US TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING JUST UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, AND HAVE THAT MEETING WITH THE CORE GROUP OF RESIDENTS, A FEW OF THEM WHO REPRESENT THEM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND TALK ABOUT TRULY SPECIFIC NARROW THINGS THAT ARE ACTUALLY RELEVANT TO ZONING I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT LASTING IS RELEVANT TO ZONING BLASTING IS RELEVANT TO BLASTING PERMITS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I BELIEVE THAT TRAFFIC IS RELEVANT TO PLANNING, I BELIEVE THAT FLOODING IS MOSTLY RELEVANT TO PLANNING, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT THAT'S MY SENSE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK THERE ARE SOME DISCRETE QUESTIONS SOME CONFUSION THAT IS HONEST CONFUSION THAT I ACTUALLY THINK YOU COULD RESOLVE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I WISH YOU WERE THERE SUNDAY NIGHT BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE GOING TO ASK ME QUESTIONS THAT YOU COULD HAVE ANSWERED THAT I CAN'T BUT YOU KNOW.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S NOT WORK PROCEDURALLY, THOUGH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT LOOKS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AT MAKE EMOTION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AND I DID A SECOND, BUT I WOULD ASK I'M ASKING MATT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF MY MAKING THAT MOTION BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, NO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY OKAY YEAH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO I'M JUST YOU KNOW JUST BECAUSE I THOUGHT.

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JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE MAYOR.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HOW HE FELT ABOUT IT SO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANYWAY, FOR THERE'S ANY MOTION WITH RESPECT TO JULY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE WILL HAVE THE WHOLE COUNCIL PRESIDENT, IN JULY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY UM WELL.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BUT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MAJORITY VOTE RIGHT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YEAH I'M MATT YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE WELCOME TO RESPOND TO IT JOSH IS QUESTION AS YOU CARE TO.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: WITH ALL THE WITHOUT ALL DUE RESPECT JOSH AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS, I JUST REALLY STRONGLY FEEL.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: THAT I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THE ISSUES AND AND WE'VE MADE ADJUSTMENTS AGAIN LIKE I LIKE I SAID, AND THIS ISN'T GOING TO STOP THE CONVERSATIONS, BUT.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: THERE'S A THERE'S A TIME PERIOD WHERE WE JUST FEEL WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS, AND THE CONVERSATIONS WON'T STOP.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: BUT I FEEL FROM THE ZONING AND THE LEGISLATION, THE PARAMETERS THAT WE PUT IN PLACE, I THINK WE HAVE A VERY GOOD PIECE OF LEGISLATION HERE THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WELL BALANCED AND OFFERS THE PROTECTIONS I REALLY DO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THIS THIS DRAFT, YOU WOULD AGREE, WOULD YOU NOT THAT THAT IT'S IT CAME OUT FRIDAY NIGHT FOR FRIDAY AFTERNOON, I MEAN AFTER FOUR O'CLOCK THAT'S WHEN THE PUBLIC GOT IT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S WHEN IT WAS POSTED TO THE PUBLIC, ALONG WITH A SECRET PROPOSAL SO THEY'VE HAD IT FOR FIVE DAYS OR 10 DAYS RIGHT THIS TRAPPED YOU GOT IT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M SORRY JOSH, BUT THESE ARE ALL THIS STUFF THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING AT THE LAST MEETING MATT AND STEVE ANNOUNCED ALL THESE ALL THESE STUFF.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND, AND IT WAS YOUR EARLIER POST IT TO THE PUBLIC, BUT STEVE RAY OF LIGHT, I THINK YOU, I THINK WE WAS POSTED THE DAY YOU SENT IT OVER.

STEVEN WRABEL: THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT MR MAYOR I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY'S WEBSITE NOW WAS POSTED ON JUNE 3 JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

STEVEN WRABEL: BUT TO THE MORE OF THE HEART OF THE ISSUE, I SUPPOSE, THESE WERE CHANGES THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULD NOTE THAT.

STEVEN WRABEL: THESE CHANGES ARE UPDATES AND REVISIONS TO THE LOCAL LAW AND THE ILLUSTRATIVE DIAGRAM THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE RECORD, SINCE THE LAST MOST RECENT VERSION WAS IN THE RECORD SINCE FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR.

STEVEN WRABEL: AND WHILE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME REVISIONS THE IMPACTS OF THOSE REVISIONS OF ONLY SERVE TO GREATER RESTRICT THE OSBORNE'S POTENTIAL IN THE FUTURE.

STEVEN WRABEL: SO WHEN IT COMES TO YOU KNOW UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACTS WE'RE TAKING THE IMPACT OF A LOCAL LAW THAT'S BEEN BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND SUBJECT TO PUBLIC HEARING FOR.

STEVEN WRABEL: OVER A YEAR AND MAKING IT MORE RESTRICTIVE ON THE OSBORNE BY LIMITING HEIGHT COVERAGE ADDING SOME EVERGREEN SETBACKS AND ADDING SOME PARKING SETBACKS OFF POST ROPE.

STEVEN WRABEL: TO SAY NOW THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND, I THINK, JUST HAS US A LITTLE CONCERNED, SINCE THIS IS LANGUAGE THAT'S TWEAK YES UPDATED, YES, MORE RESTRICTIVE, CERTAINLY, BUT GENERALLY TRACKS, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S BEEN PENDING IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT STEVE TO BE FAIR, YOU SAY LAST FEBRUARY OF 2021 THIS THIS CAME OUT THE ILLUSTRATIVE DIAGRAM AND THE VERSION OF THIS THAT HAS BEEN AMENDED OR ADJUSTED CAME OUT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FOR THE FIRST TIME MARCH NINE SO THAT'S THE FIRST TIME, THE PUBLIC COULD SEE AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN THEY STARTED LOOKING AT IT IN THE FIRST PRESENTATION AND WHICH MR ANDERSON.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: EXPLAINED IT AND YOU EXPLAINED IT IN YOUR COLLEAGUES EXPLAINED IT WAS MAY 25 OR 27TH A DATE WRONG, BUT YOU KNOW JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THEN, IT WAS REFINED IN THAT MEETING, AND THEN THAT MAY HAVE BEEN POSTED JUNE 3 AND MAYBE SOME OF US STARTED TO LOOK AT IT THAN I DID BECAUSE I GOT IT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T KNOW IN THE PUBLIC STARTED LOOKING AT IT, BUT IT WAS NOTICED FOR TONIGHT ON ON JUNE 10 SO FIVE DAYS AGO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND JUST COMPARE THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, TO THE 30 DAY COMMENT PERIOD WHEN THE US COAST GUARD AFTER 30 DAYS EARLIER DOING A NOTICE TO MARINERS BUT IF SOME BUOYS AND SAID THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THE BOYS THAT WAS REALLY SIMPLE EVERYONE COULD UNDERSTAND THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JULIE DID TO DO YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH NO I JUST THINK THAT IT'S I'M.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SORRY I'M A LITTLE CLOUDY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS, AND A LOT I DON'T THINK I AGREE WITH STEVENS POINT IN THAT.

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JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THIS HAS BEEN POSTED THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THIS THAT'S LIKE LAST MINUTE OR WHATNOT, AND SO I JUST I FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW, I GUESS, I HAVE A QUESTION TO PROCEDURALLY DO WE DO WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST WHAT WE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HAVE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TO MOVE TO ME.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HERE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN WE EXTEND THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL JULY 13.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: EMOTION TO IT CLOSER.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: US IF WE HAD TO AND I.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ALREADY SAID, I WANTED TO MAKE THE MOTION, I ASKED MATT JOSH ASKED IF I WOULD CAROLINA ASKED IF I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION, WE HAD A CONVERSATION I WOULD LIKE THE MY COLLEAGUES TO ENTERTAIN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CARRYING THE PUBLIC HEARING OVER TILL JULY, SO THAT THE HUNDRED AND 41 PEOPLE WHO SIGN THAT LETTER AND ANOTHER 60 OR SO INDICATE THEY STAND BEHIND IT AND THE HUNDRED AND 19 PEOPLE WHO SHOWED UP TONIGHT WITH CONCERNS COULD HAVE A DIALOGUE WE HAVEN'T.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DONE LIKE THESE ARE NEIGHBORS AND.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JOSH THEY'RE ALL OUR NEIGHBORS AND.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO LET'S BE HONEST.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I JUST DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT LIVES THERE AND I GUESS YOU KNOW I.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HATE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TO RESIST AND I DON'T KNOW.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE POINT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT THE ILLUSTRATION AND WHATNOT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON WE'RE NOT VOTING ON AN ILLUSTRATION WE'RE VOTING ON A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO, SO WHAT ACTUALLY COMES THE PLAN THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS NEXT THE SPECIFICS OF THE PLAN IS WHAT HAPPENS IS THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM I KNOW FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE, GOING TO RENOVATION.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PLENTY OF CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENS AT THE BAR LEVEL AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IT PLANNING COMMISSION.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I DON'T THINK THAT THE CONVERSATION ENDS AND I THINK IT CONTINUES AND I.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I MY BIGGEST FEAR ABOUT THIS IS THAT I HAVE WATCHED THE CONVERSATION DEVOLVE AND IT'S GOTTEN NASTY HERE AND IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMUNITY LIKE DIVISIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND I'M NOT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CONVINCED THAT MORE TIME MAKES IT NICER I FEEL LIKE IT MAKES IT MEANER AND I'M DONE WITH THAT TRUTHFULLY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SEE IF YOU EVENING WAS NASTY FROM THE PUBLIC OR MEAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FROM THE PUBLIC, I THOUGHT IT WAS WHAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND, AND FOR THE MOST PART JOSH THAT REPRESENTED A SEA CHANGE BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN TERRIFIC HOSTILITY EVIDENCE TOWARDS THE US BORN IN IN EARLIER HEARINGS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO I AGREE WITH JULIE, THAT THE ILLUSTRATION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WAS RED HERRING AND AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT TYPICALLY ASKED HAVE A PARTY IN A ZONING PROCESS, WE DID THAT, TO TRY TO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HELP PUBLIC COMPREHENSION, BUT IN FACT THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT HAS BEEN MOVING ALONG AND MOVING ALONG AND FAIRLY CLEARLY STATED UP PROS THROUGHOUT 10 PUBLIC HEARING MEETINGS OVER MULTIPLE YEARS AND, AT THE LAST MINUTE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I SENSE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED THAT THEY HAVE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT THEY HAVE NOT ENTERED INTO THE DISCUSSION BEFORE AND WOULD NOW LIKE TO INITIATE A DISCUSSION WHEN THE OSBORNE HAS BEEN BEFORE US FOR THREE YEARS AND, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S JUST NOT FAIR.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ALMOST REMEMBER, WE DID THE OSBORNE THREE OR FOUR ADJOURNMENTS WHEN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MEETING WITH US IN MARCH AND WE GAVE THEM BECAUSE THEY ASKED FOR IT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T READY TO DO THEIR PRESENTATION, FOR WHATEVER REASON.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT WAS JUST FINE I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: COMPLY WITH WITH REQUESTS THAT THAT WE MADE OF THEM THAT THAT WERE DECIDEDLY UNUSUAL, THAT IS, WE HAVE GONE FAR BEYOND WHAT IS TYPICALLY ASKED FOR IN A ZONING PROCESS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MY UNDERSTANDING WAS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: STEVE GRABLE.

STEVEN WRABEL: I'M SORRY COUNCILMAN I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOUR SENTENCE, JUST AS A POINT OF FACT, WE ACTUALLY WANTED TO PRESENT IN MARCH, BUT WE'RE ADJOURNED AT THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND THEN LATER ADJOURNED IN IN APRIL, IN RESPONSE TO A REQUEST FOR AN UPDATED TRAFFIC STUDY, THANK YOU.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, I GOT NOTES TELLING ME THAT THE HOUSE 100 REQUESTS THE TEACHER REQUESTED THE GERMAN BUT EITHER WAY, WHOEVER REQUESTED THE GERMAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE WAS A DECISION THAT MORE TIME WAS NEEDED TO GET THINGS RIGHT, THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE COME AND ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AND LISTENED AND, YES, MR MAYOR, THERE HAS BEEN A SEA CHANGE BECAUSE.

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JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S SINKING IN THAT THERE ARE VERY REASONABLE AS BEING MADE BY THE OSBORNE AND THERE ARE SOME DISCRETE CONCERNS BY SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT I THINK ARE ADDRESSABLE AND THEY'VE ASKED FOR SOME TIME.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK, GIVING THEM TIME TO HAVE A MEETING WITH WITH MATT AND, AS THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN TOWARD THE END.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHOSE NAME.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF A SENTENCE, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN AT THE END TO VERY NICELY SAID LOOK, LET US HAVE OUR MEETING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THEN WE'VE TRIED AND IF WE SUCCEED GREAT AND IF NOT, THEN COUNCIL MAKE YOUR MAKE YOUR DECISIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT WHAT THE OSBORNE WANTS TO DO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE NEIGHBORS HAVE WHAT THEY ASKED FOR IN TERMS OF PROCESS FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY IT HAS BEEN YEARS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BY SOME COUNT AND IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS BY ANOTHER COUNT IN TERMS OF WHEN ALL OF THIS MATERIAL CAME OUT COLLECTIVELY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND IT'S BEEN DAYS IN TERMS OF FINAL AND EVEN TONIGHT WE GOT A SIGNED AGREEMENT AND A PLAN ILLUSTRATING SOMETHING AT 446 WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE AND THE PUBLIC HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JOSH IT WAS THE SAME PLAN ON A DIFFERENT PICTURE, IT WAS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SUBMITTED IT WAS DIFFERENT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT IT WAS MEANT TO.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HAVE JUST BEEN TRYING TO GIVE US THE MOST HELPFUL GOT YOU KNOW, A.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IF.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE'S ANY CHANGES.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LIKE WHY WOULDN'T WE EXTEND THAT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND THE.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PUBLIC HAS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TOLD ME.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HE'S GOOD WHERE HE IS BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY GIVEN AS MUCH AS HE GET IT, THE ANALOGIES YOU'RE PUTTING IN ADDITION IN YOUR HOUSE.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND ZONING BOARD SAYS I'M WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PULL ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS BEFORE THEY'RE ALL HAVE TO COMMENT ON YOUR ADDITION, AND THEN YOU KNOW YOU WILL FORWARD.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T KNOW I MEAN THAT'S THE THE ANALOGY, I SEE HERE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: VERY OFTEN PEOPLE THE NEIGHBORS IN A ZONING SITUATION LIKE THAT OR.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HE ASKED.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ME HEY ARE SIT DOWN AND TALK TO EACH OTHER.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ACQUIESCED ON.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FA IR ON WHERE THE PARKING IS LOCATED ON THE NUMBER OF STORIES ON THE ARBORETUM STATUS ON KEEPING 50 ACRES ALL TOGETHER IT LET'S SEE ON IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ON THE AMOUNT OF BUILDING COVERAGE, THAT THE WHOLE SITE WILL HAVE HE'S ALREADY ACQUIESCED IN ON ALL OF THESE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT ELSE, WHAT ELSE I'M MISSING ONE OR TWO.

OTHER.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FACTS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: EASTMAN FOR THE OSBORN SCHOOL DROP OFF AND PICK UP PROBLEM SITUATION THEY HAVE SO I.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: USE A LOT OF.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PEOPLE ASKING FOR TODAY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE HAD TWO MOTIONS OUT AT ONCE ONE MOTION WAS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE OTHER WAS TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING TILL JULY TILL THE JULY MEETING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HAVE A VOTE ON ONE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SECOND, FOR EITHER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THERE WAS NOT A SECOND FOR EITHER.

NOW.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ALSO, I CAN JULIE'S MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE MOTION BEFORE US, MAY I HAVE A VOTE ON THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HERE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE'S NO DISCUSSION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK WE JUST HAD THE DISCUSSION.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO, GIVEN THE THE CONTEXT OF THIS MOTION, THE PRIOR DISCUSSION, I WOULD RECOMMEND A ROLL CALL ON CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: OKAY COUNCILMAN HENDERSON.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU'RE MUTED GO HERE YOU.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: ME.

KRISTEN WILSON: NO BILL.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY SORRY I WAS ON MUTE YES.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN HEARD.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN NATHAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO.

I WOULDN'T.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: CANCEL AND SUSAN.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN STACKS.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS THIS NEED THE SUPERMAJORITY AS WELL AS THE REGULAR VOTE KRISTEN.

KRISTEN WILSON: NO, IT DOES NOT AS JUST A SIMPLE MAJORITY.

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BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I GUESS IT DOESN'T MATTER ACTUALLY.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: MAYOR COLIN.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: CAN WE HAVE A LITTLE FURTHER DISCUSSION, KNOWING THE VAN IS WORKING NOW ON CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S BUT IT'S OVER THE FIVE TWO CARRIES WE'RE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT.

KRISTEN WILSON: LIKE KAREN HAS NOW BEEN CLOSED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, IF ANY OTHER EMOTIONS MAY BE MADE PROCEDURALLY OR SUBSTANTIVELY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: VOTE ON THE EMOTION ON SO MANY TEXTS, YES, YES.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YES, THAT'S.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO THAT'S THE EMOTION.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE.

KRISTEN WILSON: EMOTION, SO THE RESOLUTION THAT'S PUT BEFORE YOU AND THE PUBLIC I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT ALL IT'S BEEN OUT, SINCE ONLY SINCE FRIDAY, BUT.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT'S A LITTLE LENGTHY IT'S A RESOLUTION THAT INCLUDES BOTH THE SECRET NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND APPROVES THE ZONING TEXTS, A MINUTE THEY'RE BOTH IN THERE, THIS DOES THIS RESOLUTION DOES REQUIRE THE THREE QUARTERS VOTE SO SIX IN FAVOR IN ORDER FOR IT TO PASS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NICE GOOD QUESTION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST ABOUT PROCEDURALLY THE SECRET AND TECH SUMMIT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS THERE IS THERE GOING TO BE A PRESENTATION ON THE SECRET AMENDMENT IN TERMS OF OTHER SECRET.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DECLARATION BECAUSE, OR ARE YOU JUST WANT TO GO, BECAUSE I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE SPECIFICS IN IT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING US TO AGREE TO CHECK MARKS THAT HAVE CHANGED, SO I DO HAVE QUESTIONS THEY'RE JUST QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE ANSWER.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK WE SHOULD HEAR THE QUESTIONS.

SO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FIRST, MY FIRST QUESTION OR COMMENT IS ON PAGE FOUR OF THE RESOLUTION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHICH ENDS WITH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHICH IN BETWEEN THE JUNE 10 WESTCHESTER COUNTY PLANNING LETTER IN THE JUNE 15TH MEETING THERE WAS SOME INFORMATION THAT WAS POSTED TO THE PUBLIC.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON FRIDAY, AND TODAY I THINK THAT SHOULD BE IN THE WHEREAS CLAUSE, BUT THAT'S A COMMENT, NOT A QUESTION.

MAKE THAT CHANGE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I WOULD LIKE THAT CHANGE TO BE TO BE IN THERE IF WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THIS RESOLUTION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THEN THERE THERE'S A STATEMENT ON PAGE FIVE THAT SAYS, THERE ARE NO MODERATE TO LARGE IMPACTS IDENTIFIED AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT LEADS ME TO QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE SECTIONS IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM THE PORTION THAT THE COUNCIL.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS INVOLVED IN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND SO I'M NOT SURE WHO'S BEST TO ANSWER THESE AND MAYBE CHRISTIAN MELLOR SINCE HE PREPARED THIS AND I'M FINE WITH THAT AND I'LL JUST MOVE THROUGH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LET'S SEE HERE SURFACE.

KRISTEN WILSON: AREA, THOUGH CHRISTIAN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CHRISTIAN CAN SPEAK.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: COULD HE COULD HE CALL IN ON HIS PHONE.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND TRY THAT CHRISTIAN, CAN YOU TRY CALLING IN.

KRISTEN WILSON: ALTERNATIVELY, CHRISTIAN, IF YOU WANT TO CALL MY DESK PHONE I DON'T KNOW IF I PUT YOU ON SPEAKER IF YOU CAN HEAR AND THEN THEY COULD HEAR YOU I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD WORK.

IT'S 967707.

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KRISTEN WILSON: EVERYONE SPEAKER, CAN YOU HEAR ME I CAN HEAR YOU OKAY CAN PEOPLE ON ZOOM HERE CHRISTIAN THROUGH MY CELL PHONE HELLO CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME.

KRISTEN WILSON: YES, OKAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ALL RIGHT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TECHNOLOGY ISSUES, BUT I.

KRISTEN WILSON: DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO, ON PAGE I'M LOOKING AT THE FULL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM PART TWO, IDENTIFICATION OF POTENTIAL PROJECT IMPACTS AND IT'S IT'S PAGES ONE THROUGH 10 SO THAT'S WHERE I AM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND IT'S THE ONE THAT YOU PUT IN FRONT OF US, AFTER THE RESOLUTION I THINK THERE'S AN IDENTICAL ONE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT THE OSBORNE SUBMITTED IN THEIR IN THEIR PROPOSAL BUT I'M WORKING OFF OF THE ONE YOU GAVE US I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S IDENTICAL, I THINK IT IS SO I JUST HAVE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, MAYBE REALLY SIMPLE, YES, NO ANSWERS AND SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE MORE SO JUST I'LL JUST GO THROUGH SO I'M ON ONE D.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE EXCAVATION AND REMOVAL OF MORE THAN 1000 TONS OF NATURAL MATERIAL I JUST DON'T HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING IN TERMS OF THE SCALE OF THE POSSIBLE PROJECTS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT WHAT THAT MEANS I DON'T KNOW WHAT 1000 TONS YOU KNOW IS THAT A BUILDING OR WOULD THAT BE 20 BUILDINGS, I JUST I JUST WANT SOME CONTEXT FOR HOW WE ANSWERED THAT IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO SO JUST AS A GENERAL AND THIS WAS SORT OF THE PARAMETER THE OPENING REMARKS IN THE BACKGROUND, THE ATTACHMENT.

KRISTEN WILSON: SORT OF THAT THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE AND THE ASSESSMENT OR, THIS IS THE WAY WE DO THIS.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE ACTUAL ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT DOESN'T TRIGGER ANY PHYSICAL CHANGE TO THE LAND OR TO THE EARTH.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND SO THE THAT ASPECT OF THIS YOU COULD COULD REASON YOU WOULD COULD SAY, WELL, THE ZONING CHANGE ITSELF DOESN'T CAUSE ANY OF THESE THINGS BUT THAT'S NOT HOW WE DO IT.

KRISTEN WILSON: WHAT WE DO, IS WHERE WE CAN, TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY AS POSSIBLE, TRYING TO DEFINE WHERE WE CAN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAN BE QUANTIFIED.

KRISTEN WILSON: THIS IS HOW THIS IS DONE WITHOUT A PLAN, WE HAVE A CONCEPT, MAYBE, AND SO THAT'S SORT OF WHERE WE ARE, FOR THE PURPOSE IT'S IT'S NOT SO THAT WE SAY LOOK, THIS HAS NO.

KRISTEN WILSON: IMPACT ON THE LAND WHERE WE KNOW THINGS WE WE TRY TO IDENTIFY THOSE.

KRISTEN WILSON: UM BUT, AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS THE LEGISLATIVE, THIS IS A SONY CHANGE, THIS IS NOT A SPECIFIC SITE IMPROVEMENT WE'RE DEALING WITH SOME OF THOSE PARAMETERS.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT'S HOW WE DO THIS ANALYSIS FOR A ZILLION TEXT AMENDMENT AS A RESULT, YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW THERE'S A SUBSEQUENT PHASE, WHEN THERE IS A MORE DETAILED THING, FOR INSTANCE, THIS PROJECT MAY BE PHASED IN OVER TIME, SO THERE, THERE COULD BE A PROPOSAL.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT ONLY INVOLVES THE EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING YOU KNOW NURSING HOME FACILITY THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ALL OF THAT, BUT THIS IS TRYING TO LOOK AT THAT IN TOTALITY WHERE WE CAN.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND TRYING TO QUANTIFY THESE THINGS SO BASED ON THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANYTHING IN THE PROJECT SPONSORS PART ONE THAT EXCEEDED THAT THRESHOLD OF A.

KRISTEN WILSON: OF 1000 TIMES THAT'S LARGELY WHAT I RELIED UPON IN MAKING THAT ASSESSMENT AND THEREFORE KEPT IT KNOW AS AS A SMALLER OR NO OR SMALL IMPACT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: APPRECIATE THAT CONTEXT AND UNDERSTANDING THE ART OF TRYING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN THE NEXT ONE, WHEN HE AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO QUESTIONS I HAVE ON THIS PAGE TO SO PEOPLE CAN KEEP UP.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT SAYS, THE PROPOSED TO ACTUALLY INVOLVE CONSTRUCTION THAT CONTINUES FOR MORE THAN ONE YEAR OR IN MULTIPLE PHASES IN EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS COULD GO ON FOR YEARS IN MANY, MANY PHASES.

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JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A BAD THING I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE ANSWER IS NO, OR SMALL IMPACT MAY OCCUR BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL GO ON FOR.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: EDITOR THAT THAT EVEN MATTERS BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE WRONG BOX THERE.

KRISTEN WILSON: WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT A FACE PROJECT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT'S A MODERATE OR LOWER CAME BACK SOMETIMES FACING AS A WAY TO ACTUALLY MITIGATE IMPACTS, SO THAT YOUR SPACING THINGS OUT.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND, AND THAT AT THE TIME OF SPECIFIC PROPOSAL WAS MADE, WHICH AGAIN WAS ONLY TEXT ONE AND DO.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A DESIRABLE WAY OF MITIGATING A PROJECT AS YOU MIGHT SEE IT IN THE FUTURE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MAYBE I'M JUST BUT IT WOULDN'T.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SAY THAT.

KRISTEN WILSON: FOR THAT ASSESSMENT, AND I MEAN WE HAVE PROJECTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IT GO ON FOR MORE THAN A YEAR.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RIGHT THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY I STARTED FIGURED THAT THIS WOULD BE HARD TO SAY IT WOULDN'T GO ON FOR MORE THAN A YEAR.

KRISTEN WILSON: RIGHT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I WOULD I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO AT LEAST CHECK THE OTHER BOX, BUT YOU KNOW I LEAVE THAT TO YOU.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S WHAT I MEAN IT'S JUST MY READ ON.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON THE NEXT PAGE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TRIVIA EFFICIENT HERE I'M.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO IMPACTS ON SURFACE WATER AND THIS I'M ASKING YOU ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE SAY NO HERE, AND WHEN I WHEN YOU AND I MET ON.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUNE ONE AND WE LOOKED AT THIS YOU SHARED WITH ME THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY LETTER FROM THE FIRST SUBMISSION AND IT TALKED ABOUT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WATER ULTIMATELY BEING TRUE THERE'S A THERE'S A STATEMENT ABOUT YOU KNOW, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT WATER WILL FROM THE OSBORNE RUNS INTO THE BLIND BROCK AND ON INTO THE BEAVER SWAMP THOSE TWO BASINS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW HOW THE ANSWER IS THERE'S NO SURFACE WATER IMPACT ON STRANGERS AND PONDS, AT THE VERY LEAST SOME YES, THERE IS GOOD, MAYBE IT'S MINOR OR IT'S CONTAINED OR SOMETHING, BUT I JUST I STRUGGLED TO SAY NO, THERE ISN'T.

KRISTEN WILSON: YES, SO SO FIRST OF ALL.

KRISTEN WILSON: FULLY APPRECIATE THE SENSITIVITY ABOUT RUN OFF AND THE CONTEXT DIVIDE A FLOODING EVENTS.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT YOU REALLY HAVE TO LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED ON THIS FORUM, AND WHAT THAT IS ASKING IS ARE THESE SPECIFIC WATER RESOURCES BEING IMPACTED.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND WHAT'S SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT THIS SITE, IT IS HAS IT'S NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE, IT HAS NO FLOOD WAYS IT'S WELL OUTSIDE ABOUT 500 YEAR FLOODS ON HER IT HAS NO WETLANDS, IT HAS NO.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT'S, NOT EVEN IN REALLY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ANY WATER RESOURCES, HENCE THE REASON, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS IT'S NOT GOING TO ADVERSELY IMPACT THOSE TO REASON YOU WOULD CHECK, YES, POTENTIALLY.

KRISTEN WILSON: IS THAT IT WOULD NOT BE A NO, BUT IT WOULD BE IN THAT COLUMN OF A NO OR SMALL, SO IF YOU'RE DEEMED IT TO BE NO OR SMALL, THEN IT WOULD BE YES, BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE.

KRISTEN WILSON: THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE WITHDRAW OF A WATER FROM A SURFACE WATER BODY THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE DISCHARGE OF WASTEWATER IN INTO A SURFACE WATER, I MEAN WHEN YOU LOOK AT EACH OF THESE BOXES, IT DOES NOT APPLY.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND I APPRECIATE, IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL THE CONCERNS ABOUT STORMWATER RUNOFF AND FLOODING HOW THAT THAT MIGHT SEEM A LITTLE.

KRISTEN WILSON: A LITTLE ODD WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FORM AND LOOK AT WHAT IT'S ASKING FOR AND LOOKING FOR WHAT THE LEAD AGENCY SHOULD BE EVALUATING THAT'S WHY IT'S GOOD TO ANSWER IT THAT WAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, I HEAR I HEAR YOU.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON THE NEXT PAGE PAGE THREE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IMPACT ON FLOODING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN HERE, WE SAY NOW.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, ACCEPTING YOUR YOUR COMMENTS ON IMPACTS ON SURFACE WATER, AND NOW I GET THE DISTINCTION HERE, IT SEEMS TO ME THE ANSWER IF THAT ONE'S NOW THEN, THIS ONE IS YES, AT LEAST IN TERMS OF D AND E IN TERMS OF DRAINAGE AND AND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FLOOD WATER FLOWS, THE CONTRIBUTOR FLOODING, BECAUSE THIS COULD IMPACT OUR TO.

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JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TWO OF OUR MAJOR FLASH FLOOD PLAINS AND THE ONE THAT'S MOST COMPLICATED FOR US BEING BLIND BROOK.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO IT SEEMS TO ME THE ANSWER AT LEAST HERE WOULD BE YES, EVEN IF WE WERE TO THEN START TO ANSWER THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS IS NO OR MODERATE BUT DNA IS CERTAINLY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SEEM TO BE IMPLICATED.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO I COULD I COULD AGREE ON.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT AND.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT IT WOULD BE A SMALL ONE, I WOULD THINK HE THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ASKING FOR HE IS WHERE YOU'RE LIKE WITHIN PHYSICAL CLOSE PROXIMITY.

KRISTEN WILSON: OR WITHIN A FLOOD ZONE OR THE PROJECT WITH PHYSICALLY ALTER A FLOOD WAY OR A FLOOD.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT WOULD NOT BE NOT MORE GENERAL SENSE THAT THIS IS.

KRISTEN WILSON: VERY FAR AWAY FROM THOSE KIND OF RESOURCES, BUT I.

KRISTEN WILSON: MEAN HE MAY CHANGE, YES, BUT THIS BOX IN THE D AT LEAST A NO OR SMALL IMPACT I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN UNREASONABLE I THINK THAT'S CONSISTENT, AT LEAST WITH WHAT THE PERFORMANCE IS LOOKING FOR YOU TO DO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JUST SAY I'M A BLIND BROOK IS SWERVING ALL THE RUNOFF FROM 11 MILE WATERSHED WITH ALL THE ACCELERATED RUNOFF FROM IMPERVIOUS SURFACE FROM THE AIRPORT DOWN TO US.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: EXCEPT FOR THE PORTION OF OUR DRAINAGE, THE CITY OF RISE OWN DRAINAGE THAT GOES TO LONG ISLAND SOUND IT'S ALL GOING INTO BLIND BROOK.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO APPRECIATE THAT ANY ADDITIONAL RUNOFF FROM THE OSBORN PROPERTY, IT WILL HAVE IF ANY EFFECT A VERY SMALL EFFECT ON WHAT IS IN BLIND BROOK.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I HEAR THAT AND I.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: APPRECIATE THAT I I JUST I'M TAKEN BACK TO OUR MEETING WITH RAMBLE WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IMPACT OF YOU KNOW ME OR INCHES OF WATER IN THE MOMENTUM AND THE GATHERING AND BY THE TIME IT GETS DOWN HERE AND SUBSTANTIAL SO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT MAY BE CORRECT, I JUST I DON'T KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A AN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS FOR THAT, BUT MAYBE MAYBE WHAT YOU SAY IS IS ADEQUATE I DON'T KNOW I'M JUST I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, SO I JUST.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: GOT ON MARCH SIR MIKE GO AHEAD, CHRIS.

HI.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO IS A GUESS ULTIMATELY, THIS IS A FORM THAT USES A GUIDE TO REACH YOU TO CONCLUSION OF WHETHER THIS IS PROJECT OR THIS THIS PROPOSED ACTION RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF WARRANTS PREPARATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT AND SO.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT THAT THAT'S THAT'S I'M PROVIDING A AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHY HOW I'VE INTERPRETED THIS FORM, AND I THINK WHAT IT SAYS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE PROJECT.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT I'M JUST SORT OF PRESENTING THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO OKAY THAT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE SO EACH OF US ON THE COUNCIL HAS TO BE COMFORTABLE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MAYBE NOT WITH THE ANSWER TO EVERY SINGLE QUESTION, WE MIGHT NOT ALL COME OUT THE SAME WAY ON ALL OF THEM, BUT IT'S.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE'RE NOT SIGNING OFF ON CHRISTIAN MILLER'S CONCLUSION WE ARE THE ONES MAKING THE CONCLUSION, THIS IS THE ANALYSIS THAT WE AS A GROUP, GO THROUGH EITHER IN PUBLIC DELIBERATIONS OR PRIVATELY ON AROUND AM I CORRECT LIKE UNDERSTANDING THAT LEGALLY OR PRACTICALLY.

CHRISTIAN.

KRISTEN WILSON: YES, YOU DON'T NEED CONSENSUS ON EVERY SINGLE BOX ON THE FORM A CONSENSUS THAT YOUR ULTIMATE CONCLUSION AS A LEAD AGENCY IS THAT DOESN'T HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE.

KRISTEN WILSON: I SEE OKAY.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND THEN I THINK.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CLARIFICATION FOR THE PUBLIC, ALL OF THESE WILL GO THROUGH ENGINEERING REVIEW, WHICH WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE RUN HAVE A STAKE IN ABSORBED AND TAKEN CARE OF AND THERE'S A WHOLE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IN PLACE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHERE WE'RE SAYING TONIGHT, IF WE APPROVE THIS THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE IMPACTS ARE NOT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ARE NOT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TO STAND IN THE WAY OF APPROVING THIS NEGATIVE.

CONNOTATION.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT IT IS NOT, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IN A SUBSEQUENT PHASE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT IT COMES IN PRECISE PLAN REVIEW.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AGAIN BASED ON A VERY SPECIFIC PLAN AND THEY COULD REACH IT DIFFERENT CONCLUSION AND AS A RESULT.

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KRISTEN WILSON: REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STUDIES IN PROCESS, THIS IS ABOUT THE PROPOSED ACTION OF ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT AND WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN, WHERE WE DO KNOW WHERE THERE MIGHT BE IMPACTS TO KEEP DOING IT OUR BEST TO ASSESS THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO SO IT'S NOT ABOUT SPECIFIC BUILDINGS IT'S ABOUT THE NEW PERMEABLE IMPERMEABLE SURFACE RATIO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN REALITY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW WHERE THE BUILDING IS.

KRISTEN WILSON: GENERALIZED APPROACH ME LET'S, FOR INSTANCE, SAY YOU HAD A PROJECT THAT YOU KNOW WITH IT, YOU KNOW RELOCATING A STREAM, OR YOU KNOW BUILDING IN A FLOOD WAY OR YOU KNOW THOSE KINDS OF TRIGGERS THAT LEAD YOU DOWN A DIFFERENT PATH.

KRISTEN WILSON: THIS IS AN UNCERTAIN FOR FOR MANY OF YOU, THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE SORT OF LOOKED AT THIS AND I'M JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE THE GUIDANCE IN THE CONTEXT OF HOW THESE THINGS ARE TYPICALLY DONE.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HEY JOSH IF IT'S HELPFUL THIS NUMBER FIVE IT SAYS, THE PROPOSED ACTION MAY RESULT IN DEVELOPMENT ON LAND SUBJECT OF FLOODING.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE DASHBOARD IS AT THE TOP OF THE HILL THERE.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THEY'RE NOT IN OSBORNE IS NOT SUBJECT TO FUND TO FLOODING, SO THE ANSWER IS NO, AND I THINK THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ANALYSIS, ONCE THE ANSWER IS NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THE OTHER QUESTIONS AND THAT'S WHY I FILLED OUT THE WAY IT IS, I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW I READ IT.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M BEING ASKED TO HOLD ON.

KRISTEN WILSON: I MEAN THIS ISN'T ALWAYS EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH I MEAN I'M I JUST YOU KNOW I'M READING IT AND I RAN I READ IT, AND I JUST GOT BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT BILL, I APPRECIATE THAT DISTINCTION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M NOT SURE WHAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE DEFINITION OF LANDS SUBJECT OF FLOODING, WHETHER THAT'S ISOLATED TO JUST THE PROPERTY OR WHETHER ANY FLOODING BEYOND THAT IT'S RELEVANT BECAUSE, THEN I WOULD GO BACK TO ITEM THREE, BUT ANYWAY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT I'LL MOVE ON.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON PAGE FOUR.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN THE ORIGINAL SECRET DRAFT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT SAID, THERE WAS NO IMPACT ON PLANTS AND ANIMALS, AND NOW IT SAYS THERE IS IMPACT ON PLANTS AND ANIMALS WITH DID SOMETHING CHANGE OR IS IT JUST A NEW OPINION, I MEAN I DON'T HAVE ANY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST I JUST DIDN'T I SAW THAT IT CHANGED FROM THE ONE FROM APRIL OF 2021 OR 2021 YOU GAVE ME ON JUNE 1 THAT I STUDIED CAREFULLY AND THEN I STARTED THIS ONE AFTER.

KRISTEN WILSON: AT THAT TIME AND DON'T QUOTE ME ON IT, BECAUSE MY MEMORY IS OR WE HAD A SIMILAR DISCUSSION BY THE COUNCIL AS WE'RE HAVING NOW GOING PAGE BY PAGE ITEM BY ITEM.

KRISTEN WILSON: THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A CHANGE, I CAN'T RECALL SPECIFICALLY THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE CHANGES THE OTHER THING IS.

KRISTEN WILSON: WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION NOW IN TERMS OF PROJECT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN NECESSARILY AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE SOME ASSESSMENT SO HERE AGAIN.

KRISTEN WILSON: BOUGHT THIS BOX NOW IS SAYING YES, BUT THAT IS A NO OR SMALL IMPACT AND IF ANY OF THEM ARE SMALL, THEN YOU HAVE TO CHECK YES AND THAT'S WHAT LEADS YOU DOWN THE PATH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LET ME, LET ME ASK THIS AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT ARE THESE THE INFORMATION THAT LEADS TO THESE CHANGES IN THIS INFORMATION THAT CAUSES US TO REVISIT THE ANALYSIS FROM THE FIRST TIME TO THE SECOND TIME IS THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: INFORMED BY YOUR INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS OR IS THAT INFORMED BY THE OSBORNE'S UPDATED SUBMISSION, OR IS IT BOTH OR IS THERE, OTHER THINGS THAT GO ON JUST MECHANICALLY SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT THINKING GET TO THESE CONCLUSIONS.

KRISTEN WILSON: THIS IS NOT THE FIRST CONVERSATION THE COUNCIL'S HAD ABOUT THE SPECIFIC CONVERSATION LIKE WE'RE HAVING NOW ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM SO SOME OF IT MAY HAVE BEEN THE RESULT THAT PRIOR CONVERSATION I CAN'T I JUST CAN'T RECALL.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT JUST HOW WE APPROACHED IT FORM.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE WAY THIS THIS DONE IS THAT THERE'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL MAPPER THAT AUTOMATICALLY IDENTIFIES WHETHER THE PROJECT AREA MAY FALL WITHIN.

KRISTEN WILSON: AREAS OF POTENTIAL THREATENED OR ENDANGERED SPECIES, IT DOES NOT SO AND THAT'S AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGERED BY THE DC MAPPER SO THEN YOU'RE LEFT WITH JUST SORT OF LOCALIZED POPULATIONS OF PLANTS OR ANIMALS OR MAYBE.

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KRISTEN WILSON: YOU KNOW THAT KIND OF HABITAT SO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ZOO BY MAPPER DO YOU MEAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: A SOFTWARE THING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OR BOOK OR IS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NOT A PERSON NOT AN INDEPENDENT EXPERT.

KRISTEN WILSON: NO, NO IT'S DONE BY BY THE WHEN YOU GO AND FILL OUT THE PARK BLIND AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL FORM.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT AUTOMATICALLY GENERATE THOSE RESORT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OK, SO THE UNIVERSE OF OF EXPERTISE IN THIS IS IS YOURSELF AND THEN OSBORNE'S FOLKS AND THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER EXPERT AND THEN THE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE COUNCIL, ON YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: ENVIRONMENTAL MAPPING PROGRAM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THE MAPPING PROGRAM FOR THAT'S FOR NUMBER SEVEN, BUT FOR THE.

KRISTEN WILSON: DAY THIS.

KRISTEN WILSON: IS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THEIR PROGRAM NOT THEIR THEIR PEOPLE DON'T COME IN AND LOOK AT THIS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH ITS RESOURCES, YOU ACCESS THAT THEY, THAT IS THEIR DATABASE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH UNDERSTOOD OKAY, THANK YOU UM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON ONE SECOND DID, BUT MAYBE YOU ANSWERED IT JUST GIVE ME ONE SECOND HERE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON PAGE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SIX.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE GET TO SKIP A PAGE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON PAGE SIX.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NUMBER NINE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT WHAT IS OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED SCENIC VIEWS, WHERE THERE IS NO OR SMALL IMPACT WHAT IS, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHEN AN OFFICIALLY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DO WE HAVE ANY OF THOSE IN RIGHT OR IS THIS JUST IS THIS A NO, OR IS THIS A SMALL IMPACT, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

KRISTEN WILSON: I DON'T KNOW OF ANY.

KRISTEN WILSON: ANDY I'M LOOKING AT SHE DOES THE ZACH IS THAT ALSO AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED ABOUT IT, ENVIRONMENTAL MAPPER.

KRISTEN WILSON: IF THERE ARE.

KRISTEN WILSON: I THINK SOMETIMES IT IS.

KRISTEN WILSON: I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT PART ONE IN FRONT OF ME AT THE MOMENT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, SO THIS IS THIS IS LIKE SOME THERE'S A LIST SOMEPLACE AND THIS ISN'T THERE ISN'T ONE HERE.

KRISTEN WILSON: YA KNOW AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME SORT OF LOCAL LOCAL IDENTIFIED.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT, LIKE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I WANT TO MAKE THIS EASY, SO THE THIS BOX IS CHECKED WORDS BECAUSE IT SAYS NO, OR SMALL IMPACT MAY OCCUR, THE ANSWER TO THIS ONE IS IT'S YOUR CHECKING YOU BECAUSE THE ANSWER'S NO NOT BECAUSE THERE'S SOME SMALL AND.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT MIGHT BE IS IS TO PROPOSE ACTION VISIBLE FROM ANY PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE VANTAGE POINT, OBVIOUSLY, THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES IT'S SURROUNDED BY THREE STREETS AND THEY'RE ALL PUBLIC.

KRISTEN WILSON: WELL, YOU SEE THIS, THE ANSWER IS YES, THE ASSESSMENT BEING MADE HERE IS THAT THAT IMPACT WILL BE SMALL OR NO IMPACT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RIGHT THAT'S SEE BUT BE I WAS, I WAS ASKING A BB YOU CHECK THE BOX, BECAUSE IT WAS THE NO NOT THE.

KRISTEN WILSON: SMALLEST CORRECT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YES OR NO, NO THAT'S GOOD, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SEE SO IS THAT JUST SUBJECTIVE THE VISIBLY ACCESSIBLE PUBLIC VANTAGE POINTS IS IT'S A SUBJECTIVE CHOICE BETWEEN WHETHER IT'S SMALL OR LARGE IMPACT.

KRISTEN WILSON: CORRECT AND AND PART OF THE ASSESSMENT BEING DONE HERE AND THAT'S SORT OF DESCRIBED IN THE ATTACHMENT IS THE RELIANCE UPON THE PROVISIONS IN THE SONY TEXT AMENDMENT THAT DO THINGS LIKE.

KRISTEN WILSON: INCREASE SETBACKS THAT ARE GREATER THAN EXISTS TODAY LOWER STORY HEIGHT AND ITS IMPACT THAT EXISTS TODAY MORE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS REGARDING SCREENING.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND THESE ARE ALL THINGS RELATED SPECIFICALLY IN THE ZONING TEXTS AMENDMENT.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND THAT'S THE SUPPORTING RATIONALE FOR THAT AND MUCH OF THAT RELATES TO THE FACT THAT WHILE THERE IS AN INCREASE IN OVERALL DEVELOPMENT THAT THE SETBACK, THE HEIGHT AND A SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND MAYBE SOME OTHER PROVISIONS BUT QUICKLY SUMMARIZING THAT THEY WERE THOSE THINGS, RESULT IN A SMALLER NO IMPACT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, I MEAN I WOULD THINK THAT 10 BUILDINGS THAT YOU WOULD THEN SEE FROM BOSTON POST ROAD OR I WAS BORN ROAD MAYBE NOT FROM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOUR FRIEND OR PLAY ON PARKWAY BUT ON TWO SIDES, I WOULD THINK THAT IT IS A LARGE IMPACT, WHETHER IT'S BAD OR GOOD IS IS ANOTHER THING, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE TO ME MODERATE TO LARGE IMPACT.

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KRISTEN WILSON: AND I KNOW IT'S NOT WHETHER IT'S GOOD WHETHER IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY AT FIRST, SO IF.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT'S THAT'S YOUR THAT'S YOUR QUESTION, SO IT WAS IF IT WAS DEEMED TO BE ADVERSE THEN THAT'S THAT'S OUR ASSESSMENT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, SO YOU'RE SO IT HAS TO BE AS.

KRISTEN WILSON: IF IT'S GOOD AND IT'S NO IMPACT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY OKAY SO IT'S NOT THAT IT CAN BE SEEN IT'S WHETHER IT'S EMBERS.

CORRECT OKAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: UM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THE SAME THINKING AROUND D, THEN.

KRISTEN WILSON: 90 S OKAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I MEAN I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THE SAME QUESTIONS TWICE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: UM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HE.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND I SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT BECAUSE IT'S ALSO ABOUT THIS IDEA OF A STARK CONTRAST, AND I APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW ABOUT THIS, INCLUDING THOSE ON THE COUNCIL.

KRISTEN WILSON: THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL CONTEXT THAT SURROUNDS THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CONTEXT THAT SURROUNDS THIS PROPERTY BUT THERE'S ALSO OFFICE BUILDINGS MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR ROADWAY.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOU KNOW SO YOU'RE SORT OF LOOKING AT IT IN THAT.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT FULLER CONTEXT, A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF IT, AND WE DO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND SPECIFICALLY ABOUT A LOT OF THE EFFORT THAT WAS DONE TO REDUCE.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE AMOUNT OF ENCROACHMENT AND BUILDING HIDE IN THAT CORNER WILL CALL THE OSBORNE FEEL AREA BUT BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, THAT WAS A AREA OF A LOT OF ATTENTION, AS WE HEARD THIS EVENING AND IN PRIOR.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO, I GUESS, TO ME, I MEAN STARK CONTRAST.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND OBVIOUSLY I'M ON.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON THE SIDE THAT BACKS UP AGAINST KINECT AND ALL OF THAT, YOU KNOW THERE'S NOT TO ME A STARK CONTRAST, AND ON THE SIDE THAT BACKS UP AGAINST.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WEST BAD IN ST REGIS I WOULD AGREE THERE'S NO STARK CONTRAST BUT ALONG AS ONE ROAD IN BOSTON POST ROAD I WOULD THINK YOU KNOW THIS QUANTITY OF DEVELOPMENT IS A STARK CONTRAST, I MEAN THAT THAT TO ME.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FROM TWO OF THE VANTAGE POINTS AND ACTUALLY THAT THE TRAVELED VANTAGE POINTS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT THE THAT THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME NEIGHBORHOODS ARE IN IT'S IT'S A IT'S A START IT'S A STARK CONTRAST IT TO ME THAT WOULD THAT I WOULD.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK THE OTHER TWO BOXES.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW ANYONE, BUT THE OTHER ALSO SAYING THE STARK CONTRAST ALSO MEANS THAT THE PROPOSED ACTION IS A STARK CONTRAST, IN OTHER WORDS.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE INADEQUACY OF THE SETBACKS, THE INADEQUACY OF THE STORY HEIGHT LIMITATIONS AND FLOOR BUILDING HEIGHT THE INADEQUACY OF THE SPECIFIC PROVISIONS REGARDING LANDSCAPING.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE TOTALITY OF THE PROPOSED ACTION, THE TOTALITY OF THAT TEXT AMENDMENT WOULD LEAD YOU TO THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE STILL A STARK CONTRAST TO THOSE.

KRISTEN WILSON: SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AS SUCH, YOU WOULD INDICATE IT'S MODERATE TO HIGH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH I THINK IT'S MODERATE TO HIGH, BECAUSE I THINK YOU KNOW WE'RE WE'RE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE'RE YOU KNOW, INCREASING THE DENSITY OF THAT AREA BY YOU KNOW 60% OR SOMETHING SO I WOULD, I WOULD ASK.

KRISTEN WILSON: I'M EXPLAINING ALL OF THIS, THE BENEFIT OF THE FULL COUNCIL AND, OBVIOUSLY, THAT THE PUBLIC AND AGAIN THIS IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION, WHICH IS GOOD AND HEALTHY BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT'S GOING TO LEAD TO THE.

KRISTEN WILSON: TO THE CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL AS LEAD AGENCY, WHETHER.

KRISTEN WILSON: THIS SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO HAVE A POSITIVE DECLARATION SO.

KRISTEN WILSON: THIS DIALOGUE IS PART OF THAT ASSESSMENT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: GREAT UM MAYBE WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, IS IF AT THE I'LL ASK MY QUESTIONS BUT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE TO ME OF POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE DECORATION AND PROBABLY ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES KNOW IT FAR BETTER THAN I DO THEY'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL LONGER THAN ME EXCEPT ONE, AND.

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JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND HE'S SMARTER THAN ME.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT ALSO FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT LET ME JUST GO AHEAD WITH THE QUESTIONS WELL ACTUALLY WHAT YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A WHAT IS A POSITIVE DECLARATION NEED.

KRISTEN WILSON: LET'S FINISH THE FORM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, FINE THAT'S.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FINE YEAH I WANT TO MAKE IT EASIEST FOR YOU.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN SPEEDIEST UM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO HE THE PROPOSED ACTION MAY CAUSE A DIMINISHMENT OF THE PUBLIC ENJOYMENT AND APPRECIATION OF THE DESIGNATED AESTHETIC RESOURCE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I MEAN THAT AGAIN SEEMS TO ME TO BE A LARGE IMPACT BECAUSE AGAIN IT'S WERE INCREASING THE DENSITY AND THE QUANTITY OF BUILDINGS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THEN ON ON TWO SIDES, I THINK IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER, BUT FROM TWO VANTAGE POINTS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK IT IS SIGNIFICANT TO THOSE TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS DIFFERENTLY, FOR EACH MAYBE MORE SO TO ONE, AND NOT SO MUCH TO ANOTHER I DON'T KNOW, BUT THOSE DNA I JUST I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE WE'RE ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THEY'RE MODERATE TO LARGE FOR THOSE TWO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S MY QUESTIONS I'M HERE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO WE'RE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE'RE ARE WE EXACTLY I'M SORRY I'VE LOST THE THREAD.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SURE I'M SORRY JOHN.

KRISTEN WILSON: I THINK WE'RE ON PAGE SIX ITEM NINE IMPACT WITH STEADY SOURCES AND.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOU KNOW.

KRISTEN WILSON: I THINK, IN ESSENCE, THIS FORUM IS SUGGESTING THAT MAYBE THE CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL IS THAT IT IS IT THAT THE IMPACT SO STATIC RESOURCES ARE SMALL OR NONE, AND I THINK COUNCILMAN NATHAN IS SUGGESTING THAT HE, OF THE OPINION THAT IS MODERATE TO LARGE SO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE'RE WE'RE TALKING WE'RE TALKING AGAIN ABOUT THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT.

AND KRISTEN WILSON: THE PROPOSED TO ACTION AND WHAT THAT BUILD OUT THEORETICALLY MIGHT INVOLVE BUT YOU KNOW.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO, SO I WOULD WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUILD OUT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AT ALL WE WE HAVE AN ILLUSTRATION, WHICH IS A RED HERRING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HAVE A AN APPLICANT THAT HAS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: EXCELLED AT PRODUCING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: A BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO I WOULDN'T JUMP TO A CONCLUSION AT AT THIS STAGE THAT THERE'S.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ANY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M SORRY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M LOOKING FOR FOR FOR FOR THE PRECISE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH I'M BUT I'LL JUST CAST IT IN TERMS OF MODERATE TO LARGE IMPACT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M NOT I'M NOT PREPARED TO TAKE THAT TO YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: OKAY, SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE USING THIS GUIDE AS A DISCUSSION POINT FOR THIS CONVERSATION AS TO BE IMPACTS AND.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOU KNOW, SEVEN MEMBERS SEVEN OPINIONS THAT'S FINE, I THINK, WHERE WE WANT TO TAKE THIS IS LET'S ACCUMULATE DO THIS AND GET TO THE END AND SAY ALL RIGHT, SO I MEAN WE DID AGREE THAT, ON PAGE FIVE THERE WAS NO ADVERSE IMPACT TO AGRICULTURAL RESOURCES.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THERE MAY, THERE MAY OF COURSE BE A SMALL GARDEN PLANTED.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO, SO WE CAN CROSS THAT ONE OFF THE LIST AND MAYBE SOME OTHERS BUT LET'S KEEP GOING TO THE FORM.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS AND THEN I COULD TELL YOU WHERE THIS LEADS US PAUSE DECK DECK AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY OKAY REAL QUICKLY JUST CONCEPTUALLY THOUGH ON THIS DNA.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND APPRECIATE THIS PREMIERE YOUR COMMENT ABOUT WE DON'T KNOW SO IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL RIGHT, I MEAN IT'S YOU SORT OF EVALUATE THE POTENTIAL YOU'RE DOING A LOT OF BEST GUESSING SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALS HERE.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT POTENTIALLY ADVERSE.

RIGHT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: INTO A POTENTIALLY A STARK CONTRAST.

KRISTEN WILSON: PROTECTIVE AREA.

KRISTEN WILSON: GONNA HAVE THAT BUILDING LOOKS NICE THAT BUILDING LOOKS UGLY.

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CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MOVEMENT FROM THE COTTAGES OR YOU KNOW IN THEN THEY HAVE PROVIDED ENOUGH SCREENING AND SEPARATION AND.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW I, I THINK IT MAY BE HELPFUL FOR HIM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S POSITIVE AND WHAT'S NEGATIVE AND AND THEN I MEAN THESE FORUM HAS BEEN PRODUCED BY THE STAFF THERE THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS DOING THESE, AND SO I THINK WE, YOU KNOW WE KNOW WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL RIGHT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I AM AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL BECAUSE I'M GLAD I DIDN'T HAVE TO FILL IT OUT, BUT I ALSO REALIZED I'M WE'RE OWNING IT STAFF.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ARE THE PROFESSIONALS AND EXPERTS TO HELP US AND STEVE LABEL IS A PROFESSIONAL AND EXPERT AND ANDREW TANG I MEAN I DON'T DOUBT THE QUALITY OF THE EXPERTS SURROUNDING US, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS I'M SIGNING ON TO.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JOSH WE DON'T OWN THE FORUM, THIS IS FORM FILLED OUT FIRST BY THE STAFF, SO WE CAN MAKE OUR DECLARATION, THIS IS THAT, TO HELP US MAKE OUR DECLARATION AND SO.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I WOULDN'T BE CONCERNED ABOUT OTHER BOXES ARE CHECKED DO NOT YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS MINA IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ABOUT THE FORUM, I THINK THAT'S FINE BUT.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WAS WORKING.

FOR.

KRISTEN WILSON: I'M SORRY BOTH COUNCILMAN NATHAN AND HENDERSON JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, PART TWO, THIS IS YOUR FORUM AND IF HE SEES FORM TO HELP YOU GET TO A CONCLUSION, BUT YOU OWN THE ANSWERS.

KRISTEN WILSON: THIS IS THE LEAD AGENCIES RESPONSIBILITY SO WE'VE GIVEN YOU RECOMMENDED ANSWERS OR BOXES TO CHECK, BUT ULTIMATELY YOU'RE LEADING THE TEAM RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PART TWO OF THE.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND LOOK, THIS IS AN AREA OF CONVERSATION, OBVIOUSLY, IT HAS TO BE HAVEN'T GONE TO THE MONTHS OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS AN AREA OF GREATEST PENSION, I WOULD SAY AMONG THAT.

KRISTEN WILSON: IS THE AESTHETIC IMPACT OF THIS PROJECT, BUT I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COUNCIL, THERE MIGHT BE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION THAT'S FINE MAYBE JUST JUST FACILITATE THIS, BUT JUST KEEP MOVING AND ACTUALLY WE CAN SUMMARIZE IT THE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: GREAT THANKS AND MY QUESTIONS ARE THERE, THEIR QUESTIONS THEY'RE NOT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I I I UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLE UNDERLYING WHAT THE ARTIST WANTS TO DO AND I'M A FAN OF THE ORGANIZATION AND WHAT IT DOES FOR ITS RESIDENTS AND FOR THE RESIDENTS BEYOND THE OSBORNE SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT I'M PUTTING MY NAME TO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AS A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL, AND WHAT WE'RE ALL COMING TOGETHER AROUND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO IN MY OPINION D AMP D ARE MODERATE TO LARGE IMPACT IN TERMS OF AT LEAST POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW MAY OCCUR, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY.

OR.

KRISTEN WILSON: PROVIDE A RATIONALE AS TO WHY CERTAIN THINGS ARE ANSWER THAT AND THEN COUNSEL AGREES FINE IF THEY DON'T THAT'S ALSO FINE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THANK YOU.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ULTIMATELY, CAN I JUST ASK I THINK WE'RE WE MAY NOT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AGREE AND ALL THE CHECKBOXES AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE'RE ASKED TO AGREE OR DISAGREE ON IS THE OVERALL VERDICT RIGHT, SO I THINK.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND, AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH CONTINUING TO YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND JOSH, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE REALLY RESPECTFUL OF THE PUBLIC'S TIME WHO'S STILL HERE TOO AND LET'S JUST ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE, PLEASE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MARCHING THROUGH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK THE PUBLIC CARES THAT'S WHY THEY'RE HERE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M JUST I'M JUST GOING TO IT SO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NUMBER 11 I'M ON PAGE SEVEN NOW.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO, ON PAGE SEVEN IMPACT ON OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION, SO IN THE FIRST DRAFT OF THIS, IT WAS CHECKED YES.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S NOT RIGHT NOW IT'S CHECKED NOW, SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND I.

KRISTEN WILSON: I'M GOING TO GO WITH D.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M SORRY.

KRISTEN WILSON: I WOULD CONCUR WITH THAT I IT ITEM DATA PROPOSED ACTUALLY RESULT IN THE BOSTON AREA NOW USED INFORMALLY BY THE COMMUNITY AS AN OPEN SPACE RESOURCE, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT THE CPU AND I'M NOT GOING TO REHASH IT, BUT I SHOULD SAY THAT, IN THE ATTACHED DISCUSS THAT.

KRISTEN WILSON: RIGHT HAS ESSENTIALLY SAYING THAT THAT AREA DOWN BY OSBORNE FEEL IS PRIVATELY OWNED, BUT IT IS INFORMING US THE 75TH AMENDMENT WOULD NOT.

KRISTEN WILSON: WOULD WOULD PRESERVE THAT AREA ONLY IN THE SENSE THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE THERE WOULDN'T BE BUILDINGS THERE BECAUSE THE SETBACKS HOW THAT AREAS US HOW THAT AREA IS PROGRAMMED.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT REALLY PART OF IT IT'S JUST HOW THAT WOULD BE ADVERSELY IMPACTED BUT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

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KRISTEN WILSON: IS NOT BEING BUILT UPON THAT AREA THAT WE YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY, I MEAN WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROXIMITY OF THAT LIE RELATIVE TO THE FENCE AND THAT SORT OF THING.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT IT IS NOT AS THOUGH WE'VE REDUCED RIGHT NOW THAT SETBACK IS 160 FEET NOW IT'S THREE 300 FEET FOR THREE STORY BUILDING AND 400 FEET FOR FOR STORAGE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RIGHT.

KRISTEN WILSON: FOR THEM, THREE STORIES RATHER.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WRITE IN TO 40 FOR PARKING, WHICH WOULD MEAN WE MOVE.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO THAT'S THE RATIONALE FOR SAYING THERE IS THIS OPEN SPACE AREA IT'S PRIVATE LAND IT'S INFORMALLY USED.

KRISTEN WILSON: WHEN I'M MAKING A STATEMENT AS TO WHETHER IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE THAT WAY OR NOT BE THAT WAY, BUT WE CAN MAKE A STATEMENT THAT THE PROPOSED SOME MEMBER DOES NOT PUT A BUILDING IN THAT AREA OR PARKY UP TO 240 FEET.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ALL RIGHT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY CUZ CUZ C AND D WE'RE BOTH CHECK, YES, AND THE ON THE PRIOR DRAFT OF THIS BY EVERYONE IN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SAY DIFFERENT, SO I THINK I THINK THOSE SHOULD BE CHECKED.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BECAUSE AGAIN IT'S WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALS I KNOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I WOULD I WOULD I WOULD.

KRISTEN WILSON: DISCUSS THAT SO IT'S, IT IS NOT CONSISTENT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO WE FIX THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHEN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M 12.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEARS IMPACT ON CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL AREAS, I THINK IT WAS CHECKED KNOW, LAST TIME AND NOW IT'S CHECKED YES.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO WHAT WHAT DID WE LEARN.

KRISTEN WILSON: THEN THINK I DON'T THINK WE MAY NOT HAVE REALIZED PLAY LAND IS SO WITHIN ONE MILE THAT WITH THE CHANGE WAS CHRISTIAN NO IT'S ACTUALLY PLAYED ON PARKWAY.

KRISTEN WILSON: YEAH AND NOTHING SO SO THAT'S WHY I CHANGED IT.

KRISTEN WILSON: TO TAKE IT.

KRISTEN WILSON: INCLUDES PLAY LAND AND PLAY LIKE PARKWAY I DON'T THINK IT'S A SMALL TOMATO OR IT'S NO IMPACT TO THE SMALL IMPACT.

KRISTEN WILSON: THIS WILL NOT EVEN BE VISIBLE FROM.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAILAND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, SO WHAT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY IMPACTED JUST THE PARKWAY.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND AND PLAY LAND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PINPOINT.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO SO CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL AREA JOSH IS THOSE ARE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED AREAS.

KRISTEN WILSON: ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL MAPPER.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I SEE, SO THIS IS GENERATED FROM THAT DATABASE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I MEAN IT'S BASED ON IT'S BASED ON IT'S BASED ON A SET OF STANDARDS IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT REALLY SUBJECTIVE.

KRISTEN WILSON: CORRECT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, SO YOU CORRECTED IT TO MEET THE STANDARD OKAY, I GET IT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THANK YOU ALL I KNOW I'M.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON PAGE EIGHT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO GETTING THERE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON PAGE EIGHT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IMPACT ON ENERGY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DIDN T.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT SAYS MAY INVOLVE HEATING AND COOLING OF MORE THAN 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING AREA WHEN COMPLETED.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT 400,000 SQUARE FEET WHEN THIS IS DONE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO ISN'T THAT A MAJOR OR MODERATE IMPACT WE USED TO MODERATE IMPACT LIKE IT'S FOUR TIMES THE NUMBER THAT'S THERE.

KRISTEN WILSON: COULD BE YOU KNOW IT IT'S A.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT WILL INVOLVE HEATING OR COOLING THAT IT COULD ALSO INVOLVE RENEWABLE THINGS I TO THERMAL WHICH HAS BECOME VERY POPULAR WE KNOW THERE'S A.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE ABILITY TO EVEN USE GAS IS RESTRICTED.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND THEN, OF COURSE, OTHER RENEWABLES SOLAR AND SO FORTH.

AND KRISTEN WILSON: ASPECT TO THIS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RENEWABLES DON'T COUNT AS HEATING, COOLING.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUILDINGS WILL BE REMOVED, THAT ARE LESS ENERGY EFFICIENT BEING REPLACED BY BUILDINGS THAT ARE MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT, BUT IF YOU ARE CORRECTING TOTAL IT WILL.

KRISTEN WILSON: MORE THAN 100,000 SQUARE FEET.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH SO WHEN THAT BE AT LEAST I MEAN, REGARDLESS OF THE ULTIMATE CONCLUSION THAT WOULD BE MODERATE IMPACT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE.

KRISTEN WILSON: ACTUAL BUT I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY.

KRISTEN WILSON: LARGE HOTTER THAN BACK, BUT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: COULD IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE LEADS BUILDINGS MEAN WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THESE BUILDINGS HOW HOW EFFICIENT THESE BUILDINGS FLU WILL WILL BE.

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JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO DO DESTINY EFFICIENCY TAKE YOU OUT OF THE HEATING AND COOLING QUESTION.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WELL AREN'T THEY ASKING ABOUT ENERGY YOU'RE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST JUST SAYS HEATING AND COOLING, SO I JUST MY QUESTION IS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NOT GOOD THEY ENTERED THE ENERGY HEADING KNOW.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH BUT I KNOW I MEAN IF IF THE IF YEAH BUT IF IT'S IF IF THE TYPE OF VENDOR SORRY.

KRISTEN WILSON: PUT ON A MONITOR TO LARGE ON THAT ONE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: 15 IMPACT, I KNOW IS ODOR AND IN LIGHT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ITEM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TALKS ABOUT MAY RESULT IN BLASTING WITHIN 1500 FEET OF ANY RESIDENT HOSPITAL SCHOOL, ETC.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OBVIOUSLY WELL.

KRISTEN WILSON: YES.

KRISTEN WILSON: OKAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL BE.

KRISTEN WILSON: BLASTING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YEAH I THINK MATT HAS JUST SAID THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THEY'RE TAKING PAINS TO AVOID ROCK REMOVAL.

KRISTEN WILSON: I THINK WHAT'S INTERESTING HERE, THOUGH, IS THIS FORM SPEAKS THE SENSITIVITY OF.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE PUBLIC DIALOGUE THAT OCCURS IN ABOUT SENSITIVITY TO THE SCORE, WHICH IS COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD, BUT THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER SENSITIVITY, WHICH IS THE FACILITY ITSELF IT'S A NURSING HOME.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT'S OUR GO TO THE LAST, WHICH IS ONE OF THE CATEGORIES AND NURSING HOME BUT ALSO SCHOOL SO IT'S GOING TO BE WITHIN 1500 FEET I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE BLASTING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IF THERE'S ANY BLASTING IT'S GOING TO HIT THREE OF THE THINGS SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S I MEAN I'M NOT SAYING IT COULDN'T BE STAGED IN A WAY AND, FRANKLY, IF THE DISTANCE HE HAS WORN IS THE NURSING HOME I'LL I'LL ACCEPT THEIR OPINION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CARE ABOUT IT 100% I DON'T YOU KNOW I I WHILE WE, WHILE WE HAVE A DUTY TO THE US ONE IN THE RESIDENTS, I THINK THEY ARE COLLECTIVELY SAYING THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT YOU KNOW THE SCHOOL AND THE AND THE RESIDENCES ARE IMPACTED, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IT'S.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST I DON'T.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET, I MEAN I JUST I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THIS STUFF IS ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE PLAN MIGHT BE, IN WHICH CASE THIS PROCESS GOES THROUGH AGAIN.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I JUST THINK RIGHT NOW THERE'S TOO MANY UNKNOWNS BECAUSE THERE IS NO SITE PLAN RIGHT SO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ACTUALLY ARE GIVEN THAT PLAN, WHETHER OR NOT THESE THINGS COME TO FRUITION WILL BE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WILL BE REEVALUATED AT THAT TIME, SO NOT KNOW, ARE THEY GOING TO NEED TO BLAST OR NOT NO LIKE, HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU DISCERN THAT COMES UP IN THE NEXT ROUND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I AGREE THAT THAT'S THAT'S.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT THAT'S A TOUGH THAT SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING ABOUT POTENTIAL, BECAUSE I THINK SORT OF THE ART OF THIS FOR MY UNDERSTANDING OF CHRISTIANS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OPENING COMMENTS WHEN I STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS WAS YOU'RE SORT OF DOING THE BEST YOU CAN YOU'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALS YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT COULD HAPPEN, I HAVE NO DOUBT, PEOPLE WILL DO THE BEST THEY CAN I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHEN I'M BEING ASKED TO SIGN OFF ON IT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH NOW.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: LET'S JUST CONTINUE THE QUESTIONS HER AND.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO FALL OFF.

KRISTEN WILSON: THERE IS BLASTING IT'S A LARGE MODERATE.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO WE THAT THAT'S THAT'S.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

KRISTEN WILSON: ACCOUNT SO KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR.

KRISTEN WILSON: FINAL DETERMINATION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THEN ON.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IMPACT ON HUMAN HEALTH, I JUST DIDN'T.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE DIDN'T ANSWER BE THROUGH EM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH A THROUGH M UNLESS YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE A SIMPLE ANSWER THAT SAYS THEY'RE ALL IRRELEVANT, OR WE JUST FORGOT TO CHECK SOMETHING AND I DON'T I JUST DO WE NEED TO HAVE A CONCLUSION ABOUT THOSE.

KRISTEN WILSON: NOW SO IT'S 50 CHAT THE AF DOES INDICATE THAT THERE'S A REMEDIATION PROJECT ITS WAY DOWN BY THE BEAVERS SWAMP OR.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THAT DOES EXIST IN.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT THERE'S NO SOLID OR HAZARDOUS WASTE.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOU KNOW.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE A MODERATE TO LARGE IMPACT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, SO SO ALL OF THOSE WOULD JUST GET THEM KNOW SMALLER THAN OVER THIS OKAY SO THAT'S JUST THE TYPE OF.

KRISTEN WILSON: ENTERPRISE AND NOW, BUT THEN I SAW A.

KRISTEN WILSON: LIKE YOU SAID 15 FEET.

KRISTEN WILSON: SCHOOLER OR.

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KRISTEN WILSON: SOMETHING SHOULD HAVE COME ALONG.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RIGHT AND SO WITH THAT FALL UNDER MONITOR AND TO LARGE THE SAME WAY, THE PRIOR ONE WOULD.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: POTENTIALLY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH OKAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: GREAT THANKS AND THEN THAT'S IT ON PAGE NINE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND KRISTEN WILSON: AND AGAIN AND GET A DEGREE ANGLE TO THIS ACTUALLY IMPACT HUMAN HEALTH, SOME EXPOSURE TO NEW AND EXISTING SOURCES TO ME THAT'S THAT'S THE GENERAL PARAMETER THE SAME FORM THEY USE TO EVALUATE.

KRISTEN WILSON: LANDFILLS AS THEY COME IN, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A DIFFERENT AS AS YOU WOULD FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, SO, IF YOU LOOK AT JUST OVERALL CONTEXT REMEDIATION CONTAMINANTS EXPOSURE AND THEN YOU PUT IT WITHIN THE CONTEXT SO YES, YOU WOULD THINK 1500 FEET OF THE SCHOOL YOU'RE HITTING THAT THRESHOLD.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S INVOLVING THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY.

KRISTEN WILSON: I DON'T I JUST KIND OF PUT IT IN CONTEXT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DEMOLITION OF.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OF EXISTING BUILDINGS DOESN'T MATTER, BECAUSE WE KNOW THEIR NEW.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT NOT NOT.

KRISTEN WILSON: NOT IN THE CONTEXT OF HEALTH EXPOSURE.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND ALL OF THAT.

KRISTEN WILSON: AS I'M LOOKING AT A HAZARDOUS WASTE SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT FACILITIES.

KRISTEN WILSON: GENERATION OF TREATMENT AND DISPOSAL OF HAZARDOUS WASTE AND THEY'RE NOT THIS PERCEPTION THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS ZONING TYPES TO MIMIC IT DOESN'T COMMIT THAT KIND OF USE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOUR BP THROUGH EM I'M I'M NOT ASKING ABOUT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE P THROUGH AM I WAS I'M GOOD.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I MEAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH IT WAS JUST A THAT I, I THOUGHT NEEDED TO BE MOVED THE OTHERS IN PRIME WITH 1717 ON PAGE 10 OF 10,000 SQUARE WHERE I HAVE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CONSISTENCY WITH COMMUNITY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PLANS ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN SO I SEE IT SAYS NO, AND YOU GAVE ME A COPY OF.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OUR OUR PLAN BUCK, AND THAT WAS THAT WAS HELPFUL.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THEN KRISTEN TONIGHT MENTIONED THAT THERE'S SOME OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND IT'S NOT JUST.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I WAS READING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW OUR THIS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN YOU SEE IT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THIS BOOK THAT YOU GAVE ME BUT AND A BILL HAS IT THERE'S SOME OTHER BOOKS NOT BOOKS BUT THERE'S OTHER DOCUMENTS KRISTEN THAT YOU, YOU IDENTIFY AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW.

KRISTEN WILSON: ANOTHER DOCUMENT IS.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE ZONING REGULATIONS THAT.

KRISTEN WILSON: THIS IS CITED BY IT'S NOT JUST A LOCAL PLANS IT'S ALSO COMMUNITY WIDE REGIONAL PLANS, WHICH IS THE WESTCHESTER 2025 PLAN.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT MAKES REFERENCE TO THOSE ARE PART OF THE PLAN, IT IS TRUE THAT IT IS CONSISTENCY WITH A MASTER OR COMMUNITY PLAN IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A SINGULAR DOCUMENT IT'S JUST TOTALITY OF VARIOUS PLANNING DOCUMENTS AND SO FORTH, SO.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT JUST THINGS, SPECIFICALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY PLANS.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOU KNOW THIS AND THERE IS A DISCUSSION IN THE ATTACHMENT THAT THAT GOES THROUGH THIS RELATIONSHIP TO A BUDDING PROPERTIES, IT TALKS ABOUT.

KRISTEN WILSON: I DON'T KNOW I MY MIND MELTED AT MIDNIGHT, HE.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOU KNOW RELATIONSHIP TO OTHER PLANS.

KRISTEN WILSON: OTHER POLICIES REFERENCES ZONING INTENSITIES USES A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE KEY SYSTEM SEE, THIS IS NOT A WHOLESALE CHANGE IN A LONG STANDING OPERATION SO HE'S BEEN THROUGH THIS NURSING AIR RESIDENTIAL SENIOR.

KRISTEN WILSON: THIS IS NOT A ZONING CHANGE THAT YOU SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGING USE OF THE PROPERTY AND THAT'S SORT OF THE.

WITHIN THE ATTACHMENT.

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JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, JUST TO STAY ON THIS FOR JUST A SECOND KRISTEN YOU, YOU HAD EARLIER RATTLE OFF A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC DOCUMENTS AND I DIDN'T WRITE THEM DOWN.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO, THE ONE THING THAT I RECALL SAYING WAS THE LOCAL WATERFRONT REVITALIZATION PLAN THAT IS A DOCUMENT AND ACTUALLY.

KRISTEN WILSON: I SAID THAT IT IS, IT IS A DOCUMENT THAT EXISTS, BUT I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT FALLS OUTSIDE OF THE LW RP SO YEAH SO WOULDN'T APPLY IN THIS INSTANCE, BUT THE POINT OF IT WAS THAT THERE IS A MASTER PLAN IS THE COMMUNITY PLAN IT'S A BROADER DEFINE THE DEFINITION IS QUITE BROAD.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND SO, THIS I MEAN IT JUST FEELS TO ME THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MAYBE THE BETTER ANSWER IS YES, WITH MAYBE A LOT OF THEM JUST BEING NOW OR SMALL IMPACT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT I'LL.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I HEAR YOU'RE SAYING I SEE, I SEE THAT THE LWT DOESN'T MATTER I CERTAINLY GET THAT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WHAT WHAT WOULD IT NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WELL IT'S THE IT'S THE IT'S AN INCREASE I DON'T SEE AN INCREASE IN DENSITY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I MEAN I'M READING ME.

AND JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CHRIS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CHRISTIAN AND AND CHRISTIAN AND I THOUGHT THAT YOU HIT ASSESS THIS FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE MASTER PLAN.

KRISTEN WILSON: WE HAVE, I MEAN WE REFERENCED IT IN A ATTACHMENT YES.

YEAH.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

KRISTEN WILSON: WHETHER THE COUNSEL AGREES AND.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THIS EXERCISE HERE, I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF ONE COUNCIL BUT IT'S REALLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYONE ON THE COUNCIL, AND SO I.

KRISTEN WILSON: HEALTHY.

KRISTEN WILSON: CONVERSATION AS TO YOU KNOW THE THINKING OF THE COUNCIL AND I'M PUTTING FORTH A RATIONALE AND JUST COUNCIL SEES IT DIFFERENTLY.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOU KNOW, WE CAN CHECK SOME BOXES A DIFFERENTLY, BUT.

KRISTEN WILSON: NOW SORRY THEY'RE NOT.

KRISTEN WILSON: DONE WITH CHRISTIAN GRATIS THE ATTACHMENTS THAT.

KRISTEN WILSON: YEAH.

KRISTEN WILSON: NUMBER 17.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT'S THE RATIONALE THAT GOD IS TO THE THE KNOW.

KRISTEN WILSON: YEAH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, I SEE IT, I IT JUST STRUCK ME AS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: GIVEN THE MULTITUDE OF OF DOCUMENTS THAT MAYBE THERE'S MORE TO IT, BUT YOU KNOW IT'S LATE, I JUST ASKED AGAIN I'M I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS, SO I KNOW WHAT I'M BEING ASKED TO TO TO ADOPT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN I CAN MOVE ON TO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CONSISTENCY WITH COMMUNITY CHARACTER.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DOES THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING COMMUNITY CHARACTER, I MEAN I THINK THAT'S THE GUTS OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE NEIGHBORS AND THE OSBORNE AND THE VARIOUS COMMENTS TONIGHT IS YOU KNOW, IS IT OR ISN'T IT OR IS THERE A WAY FOR IT TO BE CONSISTENT, OR YOU KNOW.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND CONSISTENT CAN BE CAN EVOLVE, BECAUSE I CERTAINLY THINK IT NEEDS TO EVOLVE HERE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT I GUESS TO ME.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AS I LOOK AT A THROUGH G I THINK THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT YOU KNOW SOME OF US AT LEAST THE AESTHETICS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTURAL SCALE AND CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RIGHT NOW THERE'S A SORT OF THERE'S GREEN AND THEN THERE'S ONE STORIES AND THEN THERE'S YOU KNOW THERE'S A SLOW RISE TO THE OUTWARD AND I THINK THAT THAT KIND OF CHARACTER CAN BE YOU KNOW STILL ACHIEVED.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT I THINK, TO SAY THAT THEY'RE POTENTIALLY IS IS NINE IS IS AT LEAST POTENTIALLY YES, THERE IS, AND THEN MAYBE IT'S NO OR SMALL, OR WE WE BUT I.

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JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I STRUGGLED AND SAY NOTE ALL TO JUST SAY IT'S NOT EVEN RELEVANT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RIGHT.

DEPENDING.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE ST REGIS OR THE WEST MED OR THE OFFICE SPARK IT LOOKS ONE WAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: RIGHT, YOU KNOW IT'S MAKES RIGHT FROM TWO SIDES THERE FROM TWO SIDES IT MAYBE HAS NO RELEVANCE IN FROM TWO SIDES, IT HAS RELEVANCE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BUT LET'S LET'S LOOK AT THE ITEMS THAT ARE ENUMERATED THERE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAY AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IS AND THE FIRST MAY IS REPLACE OR ELIMINATE EXISTING FACILITIES OF HISTORIC IMPORTANCE TO THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD SAY NO MAY CREATED DEMAND FOR ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY SERVICES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I WOULD SUSPECT THAT CERTAINLY NOT SCHOOLS, BUT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HIRING ANY POLICEMAN OR FIREMEN AS A RESULT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MAY DISPLACE AFFORDABLE OR LOW INCOME, HOUSING, NO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MAY INTERFERE WITH THE USER ENJOYMENT OF OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED PUBLIC RESOURCES KNOW AND THEN WE SWITCH TO IS IS INCONSISTENT IS INCONSISTENT AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN SAY THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WELL, SO I ON ON SOME OF YOUR POINTS MR MAYOR I THINK YOU'RE YOU'RE COMPLETELY CORRECT, I WOULD ASK A QUESTION ABOUT A.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: FACILITIES AND STRUCTURES, I UNLESS I HAVE A MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE COTTAGES I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE NOT WHILE THEY'RE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THEY'RE NOT OF HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT THE OPEN SPACE AND THE THE WAY ALL OF THAT, AND THE GREEN SPACE AND THE WAY ALL OF THAT WORKS, THOSE ARE AREAS IS THAT RELEVANT CHRISTIAN OR NOT I MEAN AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO KNOW I DON'T KNOW.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MAN.

KRISTEN WILSON: WELL, YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S THE CONTEXT, DOES THE COUNCIL THINK THAT THIS THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION.

KRISTEN WILSON: PROPOSED.

KRISTEN WILSON: ACTION.

KRISTEN WILSON: HAS SUFFICIENT SETBACKS SAFEGUARDS BUILDING BUILDING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CHRISTIAN, THIS IS THIS IS WITH RESPECT TO WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DEALING WITH HERE, THAT IS OF HISTORIC IMPORTANCE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THIS IS STILL IN TERMS OF HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT'S NOT THE LANDMARK IT'S NOT LOCALLY LANDMARK IT'S NOT A NATIONAL REGISTER.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NO IMPACT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO MY QUESTION IS, ARE THERE AREAS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OR YOU ALREADY.

KRISTEN WILSON: HAVE THAT DISCUSSES BEING THAT'S THAT'S HIGHLY PROBABLE THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE ARE SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECTURAL OR HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I DIDN'T I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET TO WHETHER AREAS INCLUDES OPEN SPACES AND WHETHER THAT'S EVEN RELEVANT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TO THIS OR COMPLETE.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE SENTENCE AREAS OF HISTORIC IMPORTANCE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I'M ASKING CHRISTIAN WHETHER IT'S RELEVANT OR NOT, IF IT'S NOT RELEVANT I'M HAPPY TO MOVE ON IT.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT DOESN'T SEEM TO APPLY TOWN EVEN LOCALLY LANDMARKS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, AND SO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TO ME THERE'S EVEN.

KRISTEN WILSON: ONE OF THESE THINGS YOU COULD YOU COULD CHECK IT YES AND THEN HIT THEM ALL NOW ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I, AND I KNOW THAT, BECAUSE OF THOSE CATEGORIES IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BROKE UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT I.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TOOK IT AS A NO.

YEAH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SORRY, YOU BROKE UP.

SPEAKER, I THINK.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOU'VE BEEN PLUGGED IN.

HERE.

AND HERE, YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: SAID IT IS KICKING TO A MODERATE TO LARGE IMPACT.

KRISTEN WILSON: WE CAN'T GET KIND OF PAN.

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JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH LET ME, LET ME JUST I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON A TEAM AND THEN I'LL BE DONE WITH 10 OF 10.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: UM THE THE IN BE WITH THE EMF SERVICES, I KNOW THERE'S A SIDE LETTER THAT CAME OUT TONIGHT THAT WE WE SAW WITH THE MS SERVICES SOUNDS FINE BE THAT THAT'S ISLANDER IS THAT THE REASON WHY WE'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT BE.

KRISTEN WILSON: AT THE CONVERSATION FOR THE COUNCIL, OF COURSE, BUT YOU KNOW THERE THERE.

KRISTEN WILSON: THERE MAY BE AN IMPACT IN THAT IN THAT SECTOR, BUT THERE IS THIS OFFER OF CONTRIBUTION UM THE OTHER THING IS IT.

KRISTEN WILSON: I KNOW THIS, BUT, BUT HE INCREASES IN SERVICES THERE'S NONE FOR THE SCHOOLS.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND IT DOES GENERATE PROPERTY TAXES THAT DO SERVE TO OFFSET INCREASES SO ON THAT BASIS THAT WAS THE BASIS FOR ME SAYING IT'S IT'S AN HOUR SLOT OKAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THE MS OFFSETS AND THAT'S THE ONLY I MEAN THAT SEEMED TO BE PRETTY BIG OFFER FROM THE OSBORNE TO PUT FORTH THE MS OFFER ADDRESS.

KRISTEN WILSON: YEAH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO THAT JUST GETS ME INTO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW IN AF WHICH YOU KNOW I GUESS IT CHANGES THE LANDSCAPE, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S INCONSISTENT, OR JUST DIFFERENT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS THAT IS THAT A POINT OF DISTINCTION I SHOULDN'T HANG MY HAT ON.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE ARCHITECTURAL SCALE IT, THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS PROPOSED ACCESS TO THE SYSTEM, BUT THE PREDOMINANT ARCHITECTURAL SCALE AND CHARACTER THAT FALLS INTO YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: KNOW SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS BUT ALSO ON THE SITE THERE'S FOUR AND FIVE STOREY BUILDINGS OR EVEN GREATER THAT EXISTS TODAY OBVIOUSLY OFFICE BUILDINGS WEST MED MEDICAL ST REGIS.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND THEN THERE'S A YOU KNOW MAJOR BROADWAY THE BOSTON POST ROAD ON THE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THAT OUR RESIDENTIAL HOMES, THE BACKS OF THEM IT'S REALLY JUST OSBORNE ROW CORNER AND THAT THAT AREA ON YOU KNOW COOLLY FEEL OSBORNE THAT THAT'S.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT'S THE CONTEXT AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ULTIMATE ULTIMATELY THIS THAT'S THAT'S FOR THE BTR TO DECIDE.

KRISTEN WILSON: WELL, JUST BE CAREFUL, THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS A YEAR LILLIAN AGENCY FOR SEEKER ON THIS.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT'S PART OF THE ENVIRONMENT, THE DEFINITION OF ENVIRONMENT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO ENVIRONMENTALLY ARCHITECTURAL SCALE ON TWO SIDES NOT REALLY IMPACTED AT ALL IN ON ONE OR TWO SIDES DEPENDING ON YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE'S AN IMPACT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: POTENTIAL CONTINUE ON.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HERE, THERE MAY BE.

KRISTEN WILSON: A BUFFER AND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THE RATIONALE PROVIDED.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: KEEP ON IT PLEASE FOCUS I'M SORRY CHRISTIAN CAN WE PLEASE FOCUS ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAY AND IS IN THIS TEXT.

KRISTEN WILSON: I.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: DIDN'T SEE A I'M SORRY E AND F OR DECLARATIONS OF IS NOT MEN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: F IS NOT MAY THE PRIORS ARE MAY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M I'M CERTAINLY NOT PREPARED TO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SAY THAT THE PROPOSED ACTION IS INCONSISTENT WITH EITHER ARCHITECTURAL SCALE OR CHARACTER OR EXISTING NATURAL LANDSCAPE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I APPRECIATE WHAT IS MEANS I'M I'M ASKING, ARE WE TO CONSIDER THAT IN THE POTENTIAL.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CONTEXT THAT CHRISTIAN LAID OUT AT THE BEGINNING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OR OR IS THAT NOT RELEVANT IN THE WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT ENOUGH, I GET THE GET THE GRAMMAR I'M JUST WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE POTENTIAL DESIGN, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGN THAT'S OKAY, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ONE WE WE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO HAVE ONE I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD I'M JUST.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW WE WE CHECK NOW AND DISMISSED, ALL OF THEM, I THINK YOU KNOW, MAYBE, THE ANSWER IS NO IT'S IT'S SMALL IMPACT OR.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW IT'S SIGNIFICANT FOR ONE SIDE BUT COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO TWO SIDES AND MAY OR MAY NOT BE RELEVANT TO A THIRD SIDE, MAYBE IT'S NOT MAYBE IT'S ONLY ONE SIDE THAT WEREN'T RELEVANT.

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JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PORTION.

KRISTEN WILSON: YES, AND CHECK ALL THOSE BOXES AS EITHER A NO OR A SMALL IMPACT IF THAT'S CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL, BUT AGAIN PUT FORTH A RATIONALE FOR THE LEAD AGENCIES CONSIDERATION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANYTHING OTHER THAN A KNOW AT THE TOP OF THIS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THINK.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I AGREE.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ME TO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ITS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: IN THE MORNING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND WE STILL HAVE AN AGENDA.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH I APPRECIATE THAT JUST AND I'LL BE DONE WITH 18 HERE MAY REJECT IT, YES, THE FIRST TIME.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND NOW WE'VE CHECKED IT NOW, BUT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE CHECKED KNOW ARE SMALL AND SOME OF THEM AND WE DIDN'T CHECK SOME OF THE OTHERS, SO THAT REALLY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MY QUESTIONS WERE DRIVEN BY LARGELY BY CHANGES FROM THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION AND A BOWL OF 2022 THE ONE WE HAVE NOW AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE NEW RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE A DUTY TO TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY DELIBERATE ON IT AND THEN ACT ON IT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND SO I'M ENGAGING IN QUESTIONS TO ASSIST IN DOING THAT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE ON A.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ON THESE DECLARATION RIGHT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION THAT IS BOTH A VOTE ON THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT AND AN EGG DECK.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, AND YOU CAN CHRISTIAN YOU'RE GOING TO EXPLAIN WHAT A NAGGER PAS DECK MEANS OR WHAT IT COULD MEAN JUST SO WE WE UNDERSTAND.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW WE'RE CHANGING THE ANSWERS WITH ME.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND IT IS DECLARATION IS THE STATEMENT THAT DON'T BELIEVE THE PROPOSED ACTION WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE ENTIRE THAT'S WHAT THIS RESOLUTION IS PROPOSING THE ALTERNATIVE WITH TO SAY.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT YOU DO FIND THAT IT WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT OR MAY HAVE AN ADVERSE EVENT, THEREFORE, YOU NEED TO DO A FULL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY, WHICH INVOLVES A WHOLE VARIETY OF REQUIREMENTS.

KRISTEN WILSON: DEEPER DIVE IT'S IF ALL THE TIME MARKERS PROPERLY IT'S PROBABLY A YEAR LONG PROCESS, I KNOW THAT THIS IS PROBABLY YOUR THE MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS FIRST REAL ASSESSMENT OF IMPACTS AND I UNDERSTAND THE SCALE OF THIS AND THE CONCERN OF THE COMMUNITY.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT FINDING THAT THAT FULLER ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT WOULD BE NECESSARY, BUT RATHER THAT PROPOSED ACTION, WITH ALL THE CHANGES AS IT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED DOESN'T APPEAR TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AREAS.

[8. Open the public hearing for a waiver request from the existing rock removal moratorium from Fletcher Development]

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: CHRISTIAN NOT TO CONFUSE ANYTHING BUT ISN'T IT TRUE THAT CERTAIN ACTIONS ARE REQUIRED TO BE DECLARED POSITIVE AND THEY'RE ENUMERATED IN THE CODE.

KRISTEN WILSON: NO, THERE WAS NO MANDATORY REQUIREMENT FOR ANY ACTION TO BE AUTOMATICALLY.

KRISTEN WILSON: THEY A POSITIVE DECLARATION.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: TO BE.

KRISTEN WILSON: ONE AND AND MAYBE BECAUSE OF.

KRISTEN WILSON: FIND US BEING MORE SIGNIFICANT IN THAT WAY.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: THIS IS NOT AS HIGH AS ONE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TWO SO SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR, IS IT THE TOTALITY IS NOT ADVERSE OR IS IT ANY SINGLE ONE ITEM IS ADVERSE THAT DRAWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE I THOUGHT IT WAS ONE VERSUS TOTALITY.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT IS YES, IT IS ANY.

KRISTEN WILSON: ANY.

ADVERSE IMPACT.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT IT AND YOU GIVE ME A SENSE OF IT.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE POSITIVE DECLARATION, HE IS PROCESS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN.

KRISTEN WILSON: IN THE CASE OF COMMUNITY OF PORCHESTER WITH TD UNITED HOSPITAL REDEVELOPMENT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OR THEY HAVE A BROWNFIELD RIGHT.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT, BUT NOT NOT EVEN NOT EVEN NOT EVEN, NOT EVEN THE SCOPE AND SCALE, BUT THAT'S THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT THE DOCUMENTATION THE DEEP PREPARATION AT THE D IS THE PREPARATION OF THE FBI IS THE PREPARATION OF A BINDING STATEMENT.

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KRISTEN WILSON: YOU KNOW ALL THE TOTALITY OF THAT.

KRISTEN WILSON: IS TO GIVE YOU A SENSE TO GIVE YOU SOME FAMILIARITY WITH THAT KIND OF DOCUMENTATION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: TO SEE IF WE'RE ABLE TO YOU, RAISING YOUR HAND.

STEVEN WRABEL: AND I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOUR DISCUSSION I KNOW IT'S A SUBSTANTIVE ONE, AND I KNOW IT'S LATE, BUT I DID JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE AND I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT WHAT YOU WERE GOING QUESTION BY QUESTION.

STEVEN WRABEL: YOU'RE LOOKING FOR POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE ADVERSE IMPACTS TIED TO THIS ACTION, THIS ACTION BEING THE ZONING AMENDMENT.

STEVEN WRABEL: AND I WOULD I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO RECALL THAT THE ZONING AMENDMENT ITSELF.

STEVEN WRABEL: UNLIKE A SITE PLAN APPLICATION DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF SPECIFIC IMPACTS, TO BE ADDRESSED, SUCH AS WHERE SPECIFIC BUILDINGS, GOING TO BE OR HOW IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT.

STEVEN WRABEL: I WOULD NOTE THAT THE CURRENT ZONING DOES ALLOW FOR TALL BUILDINGS TO BE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY SO THAT'S NOT REALLY A CHANGE IN POTENTIAL IMPACT.

STEVEN WRABEL: JUST AS RIGHT NOW THE OSBORNE COULD THOUGH THEY AS FAR AS I KNOW, I HAVE NO INTENTION TO CLOSE OUT THE GREEN SPACE SO ONCE AGAIN THAT'S NOT A CHANGE IN POTENTIAL IMPACT.

STEVEN WRABEL: I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT, AS PART OF YOUR REVIEW IS A SECRET LEAD AGENCY YOU'VE ASKED US TO LOOK AT CERTAIN IMPACTS THAT.

STEVEN WRABEL: YOU FELT WERE WORTH CONSIDERATION WE PROVIDE TO YOU STUDIES ON THOSE IMPACTS, WHICH, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, HAVE NOT BEEN REFUTED SO JUST AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS AND CONSIDERING WHETHER THERE'S SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACTS HERE.

STEVEN WRABEL: WE WE'VE ADDRESSED I THINK IN GREAT DETAIL WHAT THOSE MIGHT BE AND HOW THOSE HAVE BEEN MITIGATED IF THEY EXISTED AT ALL, THROUGH OUR PROPOSED ZONING.

STEVEN WRABEL: AND ZONING RESTRICTIONS, SO I JUST WANTED TO REFRAME IT A LITTLE BIT AND MAKE SURE THAT DIDN'T GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE INTERRUPTION, THANK YOU.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: STEPHEN THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL ISN'T IT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ISN'T IT THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THE STANDARD STRAIGHT DON'T WANT TO SEND YOU DOWN, HE IS F APPRECIATE THAT THAT THAT'S NOT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: GO THERE I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SINS IS THERE AND WHAT DOESN'T IS IT IS IT THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IMPACT OF THE WHOLE THING AND THEN, IF ANY SINGLE ONE OF THESE ITEMS IS A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE TO AT LEAST GET COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OR IS IT CAN YOU IGNORE SOME CAN YOU JUST SAY, WELL, THERE ARE SOME OF THESE ARE BIG DEAL, BUT YOU KNOW IN TOTALITY WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW GOING TO DO THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LIE IS HERE SO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I CAN GOOGLE IT I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT WE'VE GOT TWO LAWYERS IN THE CITY PLAN ALREADY ME.

KRISTEN WILSON: HOW SOMEONE IS A STANDARD IS IF THE LEAD AGENCY HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED ACTION MAY RESULT IN A SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND THAT'S THE STANDARD ONCE THAT HAPPENS, AND THEN WHAT CHRISTIAN WAS REFERRING TO IS THEN PREPARE A LOT OF STUDIES TO SEE IF THAT ADVERSE IMPACT CAN BE MITIGATED.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND IT CAN BE MITIGATED TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICABLE SO THEN WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS NEG DE PAZ THAT QUESTION, I WOULD SUGGEST OR OR GUIDE YOU TO THINK OKAY WELL.

KRISTEN WILSON: ANYONE IT'S SUBJECTIVE IT MAY CERTAINLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT COMMUNITY CHARACTER, I GUESS IT MAY SOMEONE COULD SAY IT MAY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT THEN HAS THE OSBORN ALREADY DONE, THE STUDIES HAVE THEY ALREADY DONE, THE VID YOU TYPICALLY YOU WOULD REQUIRE A VISUAL ANALYSIS SOME TYPE OF.

KRISTEN WILSON: STUDY THAT WOULD GIVE YOU AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

KRISTEN WILSON: AND HERE AGAIN YOU'RE DEALING WITH AN AMORPHOUS ZONING TEXTS AMENDMENTS YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE, BUT THEY KIND OF DID THIS STUDY, A POSITIVE WOULD HAVE REQUIRED THEM TO DO SO, SOMETIMES APPLICANTS COME IN WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY AS THEY DID HERE BECAUSE.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT MIGHT RESULT IN A PAUSE DECK AND YOU WOULD HAVE THE TRAFFIC STUDY DONE SO, THEY DID IT KIND OF AHEAD OF TIME SIMILARLY WITH THE WITH THE VISUAL SIMULATIONS SO IT'S IT'S.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO IT'S A THRESHOLD ANY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT CAN LEAD YOU DO ANY IS OR IS IT THE TOTALITY OF ALL OF THEM I IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S EITHER SUPER LOW THRESHOLD, AND WE HAVE TO SAY THERE ISN'T ANYTHING TO SCOOT UNDER THAT OR WE CAN BE OKAY SAYING WELL, THERE ARE SOME, BUT NOT ENOUGH.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IN ALL OF THESE THINGS I BECAUSE I'M LIKE LOOKING AT THE SECOND PARAGRAPH OF THE ATTACHMENTS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO IF THERE ARE ANY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THEN, THEN THAT WOULD SEND US DOWN THAT PATH AND WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID THAT.

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STEVEN WRABEL: IF I FIND THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SIGNIFICANT.

STEVEN WRABEL: AND, AND I WOULD ALSO KNOW WHAT THE.

STEVEN WRABEL: ADVERSE SIGNIFICANTLY ADVERSE CORRECT AND WHAT I WOULD ALSO NOTICE THAT THE POINT OF SECRET WHAT THE CASE LAW WOULD TELL YOU IS THAT.

STEVEN WRABEL: WHAT SECRET WANTS YOU TO DO IS TAKE THE REQUISITE WHAT IT CALLS THE HARD LOOK AND THAT'S WHAT THE CASE LAW SAYS IT SAYS IF YOU'RE TAKING THE HARD LOOK AT THESE ISSUES IF YOU'RE TELLING THE APPLICANT GO OUT.

STEVEN WRABEL: AND DO THIS STUDY LOOK AT TRAFFIC LOOK AT VISUALS GIVE US A MASSING PLAN CONSIDER GREATER LANDSCAPE.

STEVEN WRABEL: TELL US HOW YOU COMPLY WITH THE 1985 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IF YOU'RE TAKING THE HARD LOOK AT THESE ISSUES WHICH YOU'VE ASKED US TO DO IS LEAD AGENCY YOU'RE FULFILLING YOUR SECRET DUTIES.

STEVEN WRABEL: TO THE EXTENT THAT WHAT THE COURTS WOULD SAY IS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT NEED ANY IS BECAUSE WE'VE GIVEN YOU THOSE STUDIES, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT KRISTIN WAS DRIVING AT EARLIER, SO I JUST WANT TO.

STEVEN WRABEL: MAKE THAT CLEAR AS WELL.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU STEVE I'D LIKE TO SECOND CAROLINA'S MOTION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHY I'M JUST.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: LISTENING THERE IS EMOTION THAT'S BEEN SECONDED JOSH I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: EXPLANATION FOR YOUR BENEFIT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WELL, I THINK THERE'S DISCUSSION NOW AND I HAVE SOME.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M CONFUSED SORRY STURGEON.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SECONDED MOTION AT 1226 IN THE IN THE EVENING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO I CAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I CAN SAY NO DISTINCTION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I PUT IT, I PUT IT TO YOUR FELLOWS MAY WE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MAY WE BELIEVE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ARE JUST JUST MR MAYOR JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THAT NO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MOTION THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ON THE EMOTION IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION YOU JUST DISCUSSED FOR 20.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OH NO I I ASKED.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: QUESTIONS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, SO I COULD UNDERSTAND THE FORM.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I HAVE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES, WHILE INDULGING ME GOING TO SCHOOL HERE AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE STEPHEN AND KRISTEN AND CHRISTIAN AND ALL OF US GOING THROUGH THIS SO THAT I COULD UNDERSTAND THE THRESHOLD, BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE THRESHOLD SO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE'S LIKE NO.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: DONE OUR HOMEWORK.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO NOW, AND I.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN OKAY AND I'VE BEEN DOING MY HOMEWORK, AND SO I HAD QUESTIONS MY HOMEWORK LED TO QUESTIONS AND THOSE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN LARGE PART, AND SO NOW, THERE WILL BE DISCUSSION ON EMOTION, YOU MAY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YOU MAY WE PLEASE HAVE A VOTE ON THE MOTION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ON EMOTION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JOSH WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING ALL EVENING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ON EMOTION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ON THEM ON THE MOTION.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO WE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WILL BE DIFFERENT, WE DIFFER ON THE POINT.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: IS THERE A SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT YOU ARE, THAT YOU NEED CLARIFIED, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DANCING AROUND A LITTLE BIT IS THAT SPECIFIC CONCERN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE'S A COMMENT I WOULD MAKE, IF I COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ON EMOTION AND YOU ALL MAY AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH IT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT DELIBERATION IS.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: CAN YOU MAKE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MY COMPUTER HAPPY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THE CALL.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: WE'RE ALL REALLY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: TIRED MY MY COMMENT IS THIS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: REAL SIMPLE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, AND GOING THROUGH THIS FORM CHRISTIAN IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WE WOULD POTENTIALLY CONSIDER.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ANSWERING DIFFERENTLY, SOME OF THOSE ITEMS MIGHT CAUSE US TO SAY THERE ARE MORE CONCERNS THAN THIS DRAFT AND IT'S A DRAFT THAT IS RECOMMENDED, WE REVIEW CAREFULLY SO I WAS DOING THE JOB.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT SOME OF THESE ITEMS MAY CAUSE GREATER CONCERN THEN ORIGINALLY CHECKED HERE AND IN THE LIGHT OF 141 PEOPLE OR 200 PEOPLE AND 90 SOME ODD PEOPLE VOICING CONCERNS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT ARE ABOUT THE SUBJECTIVE ASPECTS OF THIS I DON'T WANT TO SEND THIS DOWN THE EAS PATH BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO TORTURE, THE OSBORNE WITH UNNECESSARY STUDIES.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT I'M PERSONALLY NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING YES, AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE A VOTE OF YES FOR A PLAN, BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING TONIGHT ON THIS, BECAUSE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DIALOGUE WITH CHRISTIAN THE DIS THE GOAL IS NOT TO.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CREATE ANSWERS, IT WAS TO UNDERSTAND IT I'D LIKE US TO FILL OUT THIS FORM AND I'LL BE COMFORTABLE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT WHAT WE HAVE AS LEAD AGENCY THAT WE COLLECTIVELY IN OUR WISDOM, ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS, BUT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE'S A LOT OF TECHNICAL ANSWERS HERE THERE'S AGREEMENT FROM OUR EXPERTS THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS COULD BE FILLED OUT DIFFERENTLY AND I'D LIKE A CHANCE, AN OPPORTUNITY, AS A REPRESENTATIVE, THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE TO LOOK AT THAT CAREFULLY AND SEE WHETHER IT AFFECTS MY VIEW OF THIS.

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JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE QUANTITY OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE RAISED CONCERNS, SOME OF WHICH I THINK ARE IRRELEVANT TO WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT, SOME OF WHICH MAY BE.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SO THAT'S MY DISCUSSION POINT THAT'S MY THAT'S MY VIEW ON THE MOTION.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: NOW, ON THE FORM.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I WILL ASK AGAIN FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE ON.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: CAN WE CLARIFY IF WE'RE VOTING ON THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION OR THE TEXT AMENDMENT OR DO WE VOTE AT THE SAME TIME ON BOTH.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OR VOTING ON BOTH.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S ALL PART OF ONE DOCTOR.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: READY.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: OKAY COUNCILMAN HENDERSON.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES, COUNCILWOMAN HEARD.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON YES.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN NATHAN.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE REASONS I'VE EXPLAINED I'M NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING AT THIS TIME, SO I'LL GO NO BECAUSE I HAVE NO OTHER OPTION.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN SOUZA.

BEN STACKS RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YES.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA RYE CITY CLERK: YES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SORRY THAT THIS HAS BEEN SO DIFFICULT AND SO LONG FOR EVERYONE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE HAVE OTHER WORK THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DO TONIGHT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: AND JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT WOULD INCLUDE TURNING TO THE NEXT MATTER.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: HEY JOSH EXCUSE ME.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: COULD WE TAKE LIKE THREE MINUTES.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES, PEOPLE LIKE.

STEVEN WRABEL: AND THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TIME ON THIS.

STEVEN WRABEL: HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: DON'T ALL THAT THANK YOU.

STEVEN CIPOLLA: THANK YOU.

MATTHEW ANDERSON: THANK YOU.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THANK YOU JOSH JOSH, CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE WE BREAK OR WE CAN SHARE WITH THE WHOLE AGENDA, OR IS THERE A CHANCE THAT WE'RE JUST.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: KNOW WHERE WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO WHAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DO THIS EVENING, WHICH.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: MAY WELL GREG HAS BEEN LOOKING AT IT, BUT WE HAVE TO DO THE ROCK REMOVED WAIVER REQUEST AND WE MAY HAVE TO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: JUST SEND THE BAR APPLICATIONS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I'M SORRY THE WIRELESS APPLICATIONS TO THE BAR.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS THAT SOMETHING YOU THINK WE CAN MOVE ON QUICKLY, OR SHOULD WE TAKE A BREAK.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BILL, CAN YOU HANG IN.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YOUR I WAS ALL RIGHT, YES, GO AHEAD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO IS THE APPLICANT ON THE WAIVER REQUEST STILL WITH US.

KRISTEN WILSON: YES, I WILL.

KRISTEN WILSON: BE CAN WAIT RAISE YOUR HAND NO LEO'S HERE.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE APPLICANT.

GREG USRY CITY MANAGER: LEO RYAN I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE AND JOE WARREN.

LEO NAPIOR: GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: GOOD EVENING.

LEO NAPIOR: AND KNOW THE HOURS LATE I'M NOT SURE IF MY CLIENT IS STILL ON AS WELL ON, BUT IF TOMMASO DONNA'S IS OUT THERE, IF YOU CAN BE MOVED AND AS WELL.

LEO NAPIOR: AND THE MEANTIME I KNOW, AS I MENTIONED, I KNOW IT'S LATE SO I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF AND WE DID SUBMIT A FAIRLY DETAILED LETTER TO THE BOARD.

LEO NAPIOR: AND SUPPORT OF THE WAIVER REQUEST, BUT JUST TO BRIEFLY RECAP THE APPLICANTS PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2020 AND IMMEDIATELY ROLLED INTO DESIGNING THEIR THEIR NEW DREAM HOME THEIR PLAN WAS TO MOVE TO SYDNEY ARRIVED WITH THEIR THREE YOUNG KIDS.

LEO NAPIOR: THEY WENT THROUGH A FAIRLY LENGTHY PLAN REVIEW PROCESS AND, ULTIMATELY, RECEIVED A BUILDING PERMIT I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE PROPOSED HOUSES ENTIRELY ZONING COMPLIANT RECEIVED THE APPROVAL OF THE FIRSTBORN OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW MEETING IT WAS VERY THAT.

LEO NAPIOR: THEY RECEIVED THE BUILDING PERMIT IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THE MORATORIUM GOING INTO EFFECT.

LEO NAPIOR: UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DID NOT HAVE LOCAL COUNCIL, THE TIMES THEY'RE NOT THEY WERE NOT AWARE THAT THE MORATORIUM WAS GOING INTO EFFECTS IF THEY WERE THEY COULD HAVE REQUESTED AND RECEIVED A PERMIT UNDER THE PRIOR ORDINANCE.

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LEO NAPIOR: DUE TO THE EXTENT OF ROCK REMOVAL ON THIS SITE THAT'S REQUIRED TO BUILD A HOUSE THERE'S NO FEASIBLE WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN WITHIN 15 CALENDAR DAYS.

LEO NAPIOR: AND SO, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS TO BE GRANTED PERMISSION TO PROCEED UNDER THE PRIOR ORDINANCE OR, TO BE ABLE TO BLAST ON THE SITE, IN WHICH CASE THEY COULD DO IT IN AN EXPEDITED TIMEFRAME.

LEO NAPIOR: THEY DO HAVE CONCERNS ON TIMING OF JUST BEING HELD UP AND DEFINITELY UNDER THE MORATORIUM.

LEO NAPIOR: THEY HAVE A LEASE IS EXPIRING THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY THEY'RE PAYING THEIR TAXES THEY HAVE A MORTGAGE ON THE PROPERTY THEY PAID A 40 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLAR BUILDING PERMIT FEE.

LEO NAPIOR: AND THE WHOLE INTENT AND CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE IS TO COMPLETE THIS RESIDENCE IN TIME FOR THEIR OLDEST CHILD TO SHIFT AND THE REST OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS COME THE FALL OF 2023.

LEO NAPIOR: HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS WE DID SUBMIT SOME OVERFLIGHTS AND I CAN GO THROUGH ALL THAT BUT I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WHY, WHY ARE IN THE IF EFFECTS AND AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I SHOULD PREFACE THIS BY SAYING TO THE THE IS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THAT WE'RE SORRY THAT YOU'RE IN THIS POSITION AND AND AND WE, WE WELCOME YOU TO TRY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: BUT WE DO HAVE A MORATORIUM THAT WE WISH TO PROTECT AND WE HAVE HAD PROTESTS FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE NEIGHBORS ASKING US TO PLEASE BE CONCERNED TO PROTECT THE MORATORIUM.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: THE MORATORIUM, BY THE WAY, WAS PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED ON MARCH 16, THAT IS, THAT WAS WHEN WE SCHEDULED OUR HEARING ON THE MORATORIUM OR PUBLIC HEARING AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE SPECIFIED IN THE MORATORIUM THAT MERE DELAY IN CONSTRUCTION WAS NOT AN ADEQUATE BASIS FOR A WAIVER, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ISSUES THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING ARE NOT SIMPLY FUNCTIONS OF DELAY IN CONSTRUCTION, WE ARE, OF COURSE, TRYING TO COMPLETE A NEW.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: POTENTIALLY NEW ROCK REMOVAL WITHIN THE SIX MONTH PERIOD OF MORATORIUM AND THREE MONTHS HAVE ALREADY RUN SO WITH WITH WITH THAT AND APPRECIATED IF IF YOU MIGHT ANSWER MY QUESTION.

LEO NAPIOR: SO JUST PROVIDE SOME FURTHER COLOR I DON'T LEAVE THE INTENT OF THE MORATORIUM WAS TO SWEEP IN THE ANNOYING INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD MADE THESE INVESTMENTS.

LEO NAPIOR: IT'S NOT AS IF THE APPLICANT JUST PURCHASED THE PROPERTY NOW AND WAS UNAWARE OF THE MORATORIUM AND CAME UP WITH THE DESIGN.

LEO NAPIOR: MORATORIUM WENT INTO EFFECT, LITERALLY DAYS AFTER THEY RECEIVED THEIR BUILDING PERMIT AND STARTED WORK ON THE SITE.

LEO NAPIOR: THE CURRENT SITE CONDITIONS ARE THE SITE'S BEEN STRIPPED OF ALL VEGETATION THERE'S A HOLE IN THE GROUND THAT REQUIRES THE WATERING, OTHERWISE IT WILL BECOME A NUISANCE AND TO SIMPLY.

LEO NAPIOR: SIT ON THE SIDELINES IS NOT ONLY A DELAY IN THE CONSTRUCTION IT'S A DELAY OF GETTING THEIR CHILDREN TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IT'S A DELAY OF THEIR HOUSING OPTIONS.

LEO NAPIOR: IT'S A EYESORE TO THE NEIGHBORS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ULTIMATELY YOU'RE PLANNING ON ADOPTING SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WILL BE OBVIOUSLY THAT PUSHES EVERYTHING OUT.

LEO NAPIOR: THIS I DON'T THINK WAS THE TYPE OF APPLICANT THAT YOU WERE LOOKING TO CATCH UP IN THE MORATORIUM AND, IF ANYTHING, I THINK THIS APPLICANT IS THE ONE THAT YOU'VE HAD A WAIVER PROCESS FOR.

LEO NAPIOR: AND, AS I MENTIONED THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE LOCAL COUNCIL GOING THROUGH THE PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS, SO THEY DON'T LIVE IN RIGHT CURRENTLY.

LEO NAPIOR: THE ARCHITECTS, NOT A LOCAL ARCHITECTS THE CONTRACT THERE'S NOT A LOCAL CONTRACTOR, SO THEY HAD NO ONE, BRINGING THE ALARM BELL THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE PULLED A ROCK REMOVAL PERMIT THREE DAYS EARLIER AND THEY WOULDN'T BE IN THIS PREDICAMENT.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YEAH THERE'S A COUNCIL HIP QUESTIONS.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH I HAVE A QUESTION THE MORATORIUM PROVIDES 15 DAYS FOR.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ROCK CHIPPING.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT WORK HAS THE APPLICANT DONE TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH TIME THEY NEED NEW ROCK TIPPING.

LEO NAPIOR: SO, UNFORTUNATELY, UNDER UNDER THE MORATORIUM, IT INCLUDES DRILLING AND EXPLORING YOU KNOW, UNDER THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE DRILLING WAS EXCLUDED, SO THERE COULD BE MORE EXPLORATORY MEASURES TAKEN.

LEO NAPIOR: AHEAD OF TIME TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW MUCH ROCK A MOVIE YOU WILL NEED THE MORATORIUM CATCHERS DRILLING AS BEING PART OF YOUR 15 DAY CALENDAR PERIOD FOR ROCK REMOVAL.

LEO NAPIOR: SO THEY HAVE EXCAVATED DOWN AS FAR AS THEY COULDN'T DELAY IT LEAD ROCK THEY'VE ESTIMATED APPROXIMATELY 750 750 800 CUBIC YARDS OF ROCK THAT WILL NEED TO BE REMOVED.

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LEO NAPIOR: IT'S DIFFICULT TO PIN DOWN EXACTLY HOW MUCH TIME THEY WILL NEED TO DO SO UNTIL THEY START THE HAMMERING THAT THE ROCK COULD COME OUT EASILY OR IT COULD COME OUT VERY HARD.

LEO NAPIOR: BUT THEY ARE CONFIDENT THAT, GIVEN THE SCOPE OF THAT THEY CAN COMPLETE THAT ACTIVITY WITHIN THE PRIOR 38 DAY CALENDAR WINDOW 38 CALENDAR DAY WINDOW.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CHRISTIAN JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT DRILLING TO ESTABLISH THE QUALITY AND QUANTITY OF ROCK WAS ACTUALLY NOT QUITE A MORATORIUM.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SET CORRECT.

KRISTEN WILSON: I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE EXACT WORDING IN THE MORATORIUM RIGHT NOW.

KRISTEN WILSON: I KNOW THAT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHEN THE COUNCIL ADOPTED THE MORATORIUM, BUT I.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: KNOW THIS IS A QUESTION THAT I ASKED IMMEDIATELY AFTER.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: CHRISTIAN PROBABLY KNOWS.

ME I.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CAN HEAR YOU CHRIS CHRISTIAN.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: KNOW YOU CAN.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOU CAN CALL MY.

BILL HENDERSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MY RECOLLECTION.

THERE IS.

KRISTEN WILSON: THEY CAN HEAR YOU GO AHEAD.

KRISTEN WILSON: THE WAY WE'VE BEEN INTERPRETING THAT IS EXPLORATORY FOR THE PURPOSE OF UNDERSTANDING THINGS LIKE THE SUITABILITY, THE SOIL FOR FUNDING.

KRISTEN WILSON: OR DRAINAGE MANAGERS, BUT NOT FOR THE AND TYPICALLY THAT INVOLVES DRILLING UNTIL YOU HIT REFUSAL OR IE THE BEDROCK AND THEN THAT'S WHY IN ESSENCE WE'RE CONSIDERING IT NOT PART OF DRILLING ROCK BECAUSE IT'S JUST AN INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT THE MORE CHOICES TO DRILLING AND BORING THAT'S THE THAT'S THE DISTINCTION, BUT TO SIMPLY DRILL INTO ROCK FOR WHATEVER PURPOSE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE MORE THE WAY WE DID.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: OKAY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ARE WE SAYING HERE THAT THAT SEVEN I GUESS WHAT WOULD THE DRILLING PRODUCE BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW THERE'S 750 SQUARE FEET OF THIS THAT WILL REQUIRE YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW GETS DONE IN 30 DAYS SO THAT JUST SEEMS. JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: EVER SEEN, WHY WE BUY.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHY, WE NEED TO DO ANY BORING OR ANYTHING IF WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION ALREADY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK YOU COULD USE THAT SOUNDS CORRECT TO ME, AND IT ALSO SOUNDS AS IF EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF A MORATORIUM, WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD HAVE FIT WITHIN THE PRE EXISTING.

LEO NAPIOR: GIVEN THE EXTENT OF THE ROCK REMOVAL, THAT THE CONTRACTOR IS CONFIDENCE IN YOU KNOW SAYING COUNTER HARD ROCK THAT THERE'LL BE ABLE TO GET IT OUT WITHIN 30 CALENDAR DAYS WORKS OUT TO ABOUT 28 WORKING DAYS SO IT'S NOT TRULY 38 DAYS OF REMOVAL.

LEO NAPIOR: DATE ESTIMATE THAT YOU KNOW IT COULD BE 20 IT COULD BE 25 BUT THEY'RE CONFIDENT, THEY COULD GET THAT DONE, EVEN IF THEY ENCOUNTER EXTREMELY HARD ROCK.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: MY CONCERN WITH THIS, THOUGH, IS THAT THAT IS THAT'S 25 DAYS OR WHATEVER IT IS, OF NEIGHBORS ENDURING AND WE'VE LEARNED A LOT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: ABOUT THAT JUST LOOK I DON'T KNOW IT'S A MORATORIUM, BUT DO I SEE US GOING BACK TO 30 DAYS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW I MEAN.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I WOULD, I.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WOULD I WOULD.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WITH WITH WITH HESITATION, BUT ULTIMATELY, I WOULD NOT WISH TO GRANT THIS THIS WAIVER REQUEST.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WE HAVE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HAPPY TO HEAR FROM OTHERS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IS A PUBLIC HEARING DO WE HAVE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC.

KRISTEN WILSON: HEARING SO YOU DO HAVE OPEN CARRY I DON'T KNOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OR HERE.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M A COMMOTION.

SIDE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: HI HI.

KRISTEN WILSON: ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS HEARING, PLEASE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

KRISTEN WILSON: OR PRESS STAR NINE IF YOU'RE ON THE PHONE.

KRISTEN WILSON: WE HAVE DANIELA HIS HAND RAISED BUT THAT'S BEEN RAISED FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS NOW IT'S LIKE DON'T KNOW SHE KNOW NOW IT'S DOWN OKAY NOW IT'S BACK UP.

KRISTEN WILSON: I WILL PROMOTE DANIELLE OR OR ALLOW HER TO TALK I'M NOT SURE IF SHE'S REALLY HERE FOR THIS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YES, THIS IS JUST FOR THIS ROCK REMOVAL.

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DANIELAARREDONDO: WELL, I WANT TO WISH MR KNAPP YOUR AND WARREN ALL THE BEST, YOU KNOW.

DANIELAARREDONDO: I KNOW IT'S HARD AND THE ROCK ROOM MOBILE FOR OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE AND.

DANIELAARREDONDO: TO MAKE THIS VERY QUICK, I WANT TO THANK ALSO COUNCILMAN NATHAN, FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS HE HAD ASKED AND FOR SHOWING HIS LEADERSHIP AND.

DANIELAARREDONDO: YOU KNOW ROCK REMOVAL AND BLASTING HAS BEEN A BIG CONCERN IN OUR COMMUNITY I'M SORRY YOU'RE DEALING WITH THIS, BUT YOU KNOW IT HAS BEEN PART OF A COMMUNITY PROCESS AND.

DANIELAARREDONDO: CONCERN, BUT ONCE AGAIN BEFORE I LEAVE I WANTED TO REALLY, REALLY THINK COUNCILMAN NATHAN, FOR BEING A GOOD ADVOCATE AND BEING VERY RESPECTFUL AND CONSIDER IT TO ALL OUR NEIGHBORS.

KRISTEN WILSON: THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD.

KRISTEN WILSON: WE HAVE NO FOR THEIR HANDS.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND I.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: SO.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: WHY I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF ALL THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE IMPACTED.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: OR EVEN HERE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: WELL, WE DID RECEIVE A COUPLE LETTERS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF THE OBJECTIONS TO GRANTING.

AWAY.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: I MEAN, I WOULD KICK IT OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE IT'S 12:45AM I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE REALLY HEARD ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IF YOU DO THAT, IT DEFAULTS TO ACCEPT IT JOSH.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: IF THERE'S A TIMELINE WITH WHICH WE MUST RESPOND.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: SPAWN, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE AT.

JOSH NATHAN RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: THE PUBLIC HEARING WERE KEPT OPEN IT DIDN'T TRIGGER THAT BUT IF I'M MISTAKEN.

KRISTEN WILSON: OH SORRY, SO YOU ARE, YOU ARE YOU'RE HEARING THIS TONIGHT BECAUSE YOU ARE.

KRISTEN WILSON: REQUIRED WITHIN 30 DAYS TO HOLD TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING WITHIN, BUT YOU HAVE TO DECIDE YAY OR NAY ON GRANTING THE WAIVER WITHIN 10 DAYS OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING SO.

KRISTEN WILSON: YOU CAN CERTAINLY YOU ARE UNDER THE PROCEDURE SET FORTH IN THE MORATORIUM YOU'RE ABLE TO ADJOURN.

KRISTEN WILSON: OR CONTINUE THE THE PUBLIC HEARING IF THE COUNCIL BELIEVES THAT MORE INFORMATION WILL BE FORTHCOMING OR HELPFUL TO YOUR DELIBERATIONS, OTHERWISE, IF YOU CLOSE THE HEARING TONIGHT YOU, YOU NEED TO RENDER A DECISION WITHIN 10 DAYS.

JULIE SOUZA RYE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I DON'T HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING, UNTIL WE DON'T WE DON'T WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION I GUESS.

YOU WOULD ALL RIGHT.

KRISTEN WILSON: YES.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: YEAH I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WOULD INFLUENCE MY PERSPECTIVE, HERE, THIS IS A.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO DRAW A LINE AT SOME POINT, IT WAS SOMETHING WE CONSIDERED WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE MORATORIUM.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: DO WE LET ANYBODY THAT HAS BOUGHT PROPERTY, THE LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW REMAIN OPEN, AND WE, THIS WAS A IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: AND SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THIS APPEAL RAISES THE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: EXIGENT SORT OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE WERE REQUIRING UNDER EXCEPTIONS TO THE MORATORIUM.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THE.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: APPEAL.

LEO NAPIOR: IT MAY ASK THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MY CLIENT JUST TO SPEAK AND.

LEO NAPIOR: PROVIDE SOME FURTHER INSIGHT AS TO SITUATION HE FINDS HIMSELF AND.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: I THINK YOU'VE I THINK YOU'VE DESCRIBED THAT AND I'VE CERTAINLY READ READ THE PAPERS.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: WE DO HAVE A MOTION PENDING COUNCIL TELL ME HOW YOU'D LIKE TO PROCEED.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: IF THE CLIENT HAS SOMETHING TO SAY I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR, BUT WE DID WE HAVE RIGHT EVERYTHING YOU'VE SUBMITTED WE'VE HEARD FROM OBJECTIONS FROM NEIGHBORS.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: BUT HE'S STUCK AROUND THOSE 1245.

EMILY HURD RYE CITY DEPUTY MAYOR: I'M OKAY WITH THAT IF EVERYBODY ELSE'S OKAY.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: YEAH, I GUESS, WE WOULD JUST ASK THAT VIEW OF THE HOUR.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: PLEASE.

JOSH COHN RYE CITY MAYOR: CONSIDER THE TIME.

TOMMASO ADDONA: THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR.

TOMMASO ADDONA: ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK FOR A BRIEF MOMENT, MY NAME IS TOMAS OH DONNA MY WIFE MICHELLE A DONOR AND I AND OUR THREE CHILDREN ARE ALL VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO.

TOMMASO ADDONA: ENJOYING OUR LIVES AND RAISING OUR KIDS IN RYE, WE PURCHASED A PROPERTY SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND WE SEEM TO HAVE FALLEN INTO A WINDOW WHERE.

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TOMMASO ADDONA: UNBEKNOWNST TO US WITH THE CHANGES WE MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY TO OBTAIN APPROVAL FOR AN IMPORTANT PORTION OF OUR PROCESS, SO WE DO REGRET THAT.

TOMMASO ADDONA: I GUESS, WE WERE JUST REQUESTING SOME FORM OF UNDERSTANDING LENIENCY I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A LINE TO BE DRAWN, WE APPRECIATE THAT AND WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO OUR LIVES IN RIGHT.

TOMMASO ADDONA: BUT THE DIFFICULT THING FROM OUR END IS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY RENTING IN LARGE AMOUNTS OF THAT OUR KIDS CAN START THEIR LIVES AND RYE WHILE WE'RE BUILDING OUR OWN AND.

TOMMASO ADDONA: THE TIMELINE THE FURTHER IT GOES IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LESS LIKELY THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR OLDEST BEGIN KINDERGARTEN IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

TOMMASO ADDONA: WHILE LIVING IN RIGHT AS OPPOSED TO COMMUTING FROM LARGE WANT TO RIDE FOR HIS SCHOOL WHICH THEY ALREADY DO COMMUTE FOR RIGHT PRESBYTERIAN BOTH OUR OLDEST AND OUR MIDDLE CHILD.

TOMMASO ADDONA: BUT I DO WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR TIME I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THE POINT I UNDERSTAND IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG, MAYBE, THANK YOU.