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JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: AREAS. ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: WELL, I THINK I FIRST HAVE TO SAY. WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF OCTOBER 7 2020 WE'RE ABOUT TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, AFTER WHICH WE WILL REAPPEAR AT 630 OR THERE ABOUTS. MAY I HAVE EMOTION.

[1. Roll Call]

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: SO MOVE MAYOR JOSH COHN: SO I JUST SECOND MAYOR JOSH COHN: ALL IN FAVOR.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: AYE. ALRIGHT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: SO WE'RE OFF TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

CHEERS YEAH.

[2. Draft unapproved minutes of the Regular Meeting of the City Council held October 7, 2020.]

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: NICOLE.

RYETV: I SARAH. YOU'RE LIVE RIGHT NOW, BUT EVERYONE JUST WENT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: OH, THEY DID. OKAY, THANK YOU TO IT. OK, I WILL LEAVE AND GO INTO EXECUTIVES.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: GREAT, THANKS. BYE.

[3. Rose/Bedrock Presentation regarding United Hospital property development.]

[4. Continue the public hearing for consideration of a petition from The Miriam Osborn Memorial Home to amend the text of the City of Rye Zoning Code Association to create new use and development standards for “Senior Living Facilities” in the R-2 Zoning District. All public hearing comments should be emailed to publichearingcomments@ryeny.gov with “Osborn Zoning Change” as the subject no later than 12:00 pm on October 21, 2020.]

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: OKAY, I THINK WE'RE ALL HERE NOW. WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL OCTOBER 7 2020

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: MAY HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

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CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: AS A WOMAN, GATHERED

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HERE.

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CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON.

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HERE.

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CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN MECCA.

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YEAH.

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CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN SOUZA,

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HERE.

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CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN STACKS.

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YO,

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CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN TARLOW HERE.

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CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: LATER CONE.

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HERE.

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: SO WE HAVE THE DRAFT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: UNAPPROVED MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL HELD ON SEPTEMBER 16 2020. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES BEING OFFERED CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: MR. AMERICA HAS RECEIVED A FEW MINOR MINISTERIAL CHANGES.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M I AM SENDING YOU ONE RIGHT NOW TO I DIDN'T I HADN'T DRAFT AND I NEVER SENT IT. SO IT'S NOT SUBSTANTIVE BUT I'M SO SORRY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES WITH THE NON SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.

RICHARD MECCA, COUNCIL MEMBER: MOTION.

THE SECOND MAYOR JOSH COHN: SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.

RICHARD MECCA, COUNCIL MEMBER: ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: SO PURCHASE PLAZA.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: IS NEXT MAYOR JOSH COHN: BY WAY OF UPDATE. I DON'T HAVE MUCH. I'M NOT SURE OF THE DATE, GREG, THAT THE CITY OPENED THE MAYOR JOSH COHN: LEG FROM LOCUST TO SMITH.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED SINCE SINCE WE LAST MET. I'M NOT SURE.

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: THE MAYOR JOSH COHN: THERE HAVE BEEN MANY PEOPLE, OF COURSE, WHO HAVE MAYOR JOSH COHN: SHOWERED US WITH OPINIONS IN GREG, YOU HAVE COLLECTED SOME INFORMATION FROM THE RESTAURANTS, WHICH IS PART OF OUR AGENDA PACKAGE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND THOSE WERE FROM RESTAURANTS.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: FOR THE ASK WAS OF RESTAURANTS, WITH A VIEW TO HOW THEY MIGHT BEHAVE IN COLD WEATHER AND WHAT THEIR SITUATION WAS GOING GOING INTO THE COLDER WEATHER. SO THAT'S ALL AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO READ. I DON'T KNOW. GREG, IF THERE'S MORE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, BY WAY OF UPDATE GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: SURE. I MEAN I GUESS I WOULD I WOULD DIRECT EVERYONE TO THE AGENDA PACKAGE.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THAT WAS GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: PUT OUT ON FRIDAY.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: IT INCLUDES A MEMO FROM CITY STAFF IN TERMS OF THE SUMMARY OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED SINCE THE ORIGINAL COUNCIL ACTION ON JUNE 10 GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: IT INCLUDES A SUMMARY OF CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH ALL OF THE RESTAURANTS, BOTH IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR CURRENT LAYOUT IS WITH THEIR CURRENT CAPACITY IS AND WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE FOR THE COLD WEATHER.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AND THEN THERE IS A IN THAT MEMO. THERE'S A SUMMARY OF FINDINGS AS WELL AS A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AND I CAN I CAN GO THROUGH AS MUCH OR A LITTLE THAT AS AS YOU'D LIKE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I THINK THAT MAYOR JOSH COHN: BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, BECAUSE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO REALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE LET'S CALL IT COLD WEATHER. RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD BE THE ACTION PLAN ON COLD WEATHER AND THE AGENDA CALLS FOR US TO MAYOR JOSH COHN: CONSIDER A PROPOSAL THAT MAYOR JOSH COHN: HAS BEEN VOICED BY SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS AND SOME OF THE MANY LETTER WRITERS TO THE CITY AND THAT IS FOR THE PLAZA TO MAYOR JOSH COHN: CONTINUE TO THE 30TH, THE PROPOSAL THAT I'D LIKE US TO DISCUSS IS CONTINUE THE PLAZA TO TO NOVEMBER 30 BUT SUBJECT TO SET STAFF DISCRETION TO CLOSE THE PLAZA DOWN SOONER DUE TO EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES AND THEY ARE WHAT I WAS THINKING OF AS I CHOSE THOSE WORDS WAS THAT MAYOR JOSH COHN: THE WEATHER TURNED, THERE WAS A SNOW AND IT BECAME TOO DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN THE PLAZA. THE WEATHER IS TOO ROUGH AND ESSENTIALLY THE RESTAURANTS PULLED BACK FROM THE PLAZA. AND MAYOR JOSH COHN: WE HAVE MEETINGS EVERY TWO WEEKS, BUT THAT MIGHT HAPPEN. AND WE MIGHT BE JUST PAST THE MEETING, AND IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE FOR CITY STAFF TO MAYOR JOSH COHN: TO MOVE SOONER. SO THAT IS THE FIRST ITEM FOR US TO DISCUSS AND I MAYOR JOSH COHN: WELL MAYBE BEFORE OPENING THE FLOOR FOR THAT DISCUSSION AMONG THE COUNCIL, WE SHOULD HEAR FROM MAYOR JOSH COHN: ANY OF THE PUBLIC RESIDENTS OR RESTAURANTS OR OTHER BUSINESSES THAT THAT WISH TO SPEAK TO US.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. IF YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE WILL LET YOU IN.

KRISTEN WILSON: EVER KRISTEN WILSON: JUDY GRAHAM.

JUDY GRAHAM: I YEAH JIMMY GRAHAM, I OWN PINK HOME AND GIFTS.

JUDY GRAHAM: YEAH, THE, THE ONE THING THAT OCCURRED TO ME, AND BOTH OF THEM AT A STORE.

JUDY GRAHAM: IT IS JUDY GRAHAM: I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THIS. I KNOW THERE ARE CERTAIN STORES THAT FEEL THAT THE PLAZA HAS BEEN THE REASON FOR THEIR DECLINE AND SALES. I'VE HAD MY STORE BOTH HAVE PARKING AND NO PARKING AT CURRENT TIME. NOW WE HAVE PARKING JUDY GRAHAM: SO, AND I HAVE NOT NOTICED ANY CHANGE. SO I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE CITY CAN DO THIS. AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF YOU IF IT'S POSSIBLE BUT JUDY GRAHAM: HOW DO YOU KNOW IF JUDY GRAHAM: IT'S SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS SAYING THEY BLAME THE PLAZA. BUT IS IT THE PLAZA. AND I HAVEN'T SEEN EVIDENCE THAT THE PLOT.

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JUDY GRAHAM: HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE FOR ME. AND IN FACT, I JUST, I ASKED A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO CAME IN TODAY AND WHO COUPLE OF MY MY AGE, YOUNG ALMOST 70 AND THEY SAID JUDY GRAHAM: THEY WOULD NOT INSIDE. SO I DO AGAIN CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE RESTAURANTS, BECAUSE SO GO THE RESTAURANTS GOES RETAIL. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THANK YOU, JUDY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: NEXT, JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: WHO'S, WHO'S UNMUTED.

I'M UNMUTED.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: CHRISTIAN WHO'S NEXT.

KRISTEN WILSON: SORRY. HEY, KRISTEN WILSON: ANGELA IS READY TO SPEAK NOW.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: ANGELA. PLEASE GO AHEAD.

ANGELA GUITARD: SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, YOU SEND A SURVEY.

ANGELA GUITARD: BUT BASICALLY IT WAS POSTED ON MY MOM'S A LOT OF THE MERCHANTS ARE NOT ON RAY MOMS. SO THEY HAD NO PRIVY TO THE TO THE SURVEY.

ANGELA GUITARD: AND MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, WHY WAS THE SURVEY DISTRIBUTED TO RESTAURANT TOURS AND THEIR CLIENTS TO HAVE FEEDBACK BUT NOT TO THE MERCHANTS AND OUR CLIENTS TO HAVE FEEDBACK.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: BE US. I THINK THE SURVEY THAT, YOURS, YOURS, YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT WAS NOT DONE BY THE CITY IT WAS DONE BY ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND CAROLYN, IF YOU'D CARE TO ANSWER THAT, PLEASE.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: YES, THERE'S. WELL, THERE'S TWO SURVEYS ONE WHAT GREG DID TWO RESTAURANTS TO SEE WHAT THEIR COLD PLAN WEATHERS ARE THERE, WHETHER THE COLD WEATHER PLANS ARE. IF THE RESTAURANTS DIDN'T HAVE COLD PLAN WEB CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: PLANS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR US TO VOTE ON WHETHER TO OPEN OR CLOSED SO HE HAD TO DO THAT SURVEY FOR THE RESTAURANTS THAT'S SEPARATE AND APART.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: I WANTED TO GAUGE WHAT THE CONSUMERS IN RIGHT FEEL LIKE BECAUSE IF I OWNED A STORE AND I DID, OWN A STORE IN NEW YORK CITY. MANY YEARS AGO, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHAT CONSUMERS ARE FEELING LIKE ANY IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: I CAN SHOW YOU THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY.

KRISTEN WILSON: SO I BELIEVE THAT JIM WILL NOW BE ALLOWED TO AND JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: CAROLYN IS TRYING TO SHARE HER SCREEN.

KRISTEN WILSON: OH, SORRY.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: STILL TALKING CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: OH, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE SEE THIS IS GOING TO BE NEXT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN YOU CAN YOU SEE MAYOR JOSH COHN: NOTHING HAS APPEARED CAROLINA CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IS A GREEN SHARE SCREEN BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH, I DID. AND THEN IT SAYS DESKTOP.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: THESE HARD FOR JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: DINNER THIS READ IT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S JUST, YEAH, I'M SORRY, I CAN SHARE IT WITH YOU GUYS, BUT I HAVE A PRIVACY THING ON THESE COMPUTER CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I CAN'T. BUT I WILL TELL YOU, I GOT 460 PEOPLE RESPONDING. AGAIN, THESE ARE CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: CUSTOMERS RIGHT CONSUMERS, PEOPLE WHO SHOP AND AND DINE IN RY CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: 95% OF THEM ARE RIGHT RESIDENTS 5% NON CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: THE NEXT QUESTION IS HAVE YOU ENJOYED PURCHASE PLAZA 90% SAY THEY HAVE CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: WOULD YOU SUPPORT HAVING PURCHASED STREET CLOSED UNTIL THE END OF NOVEMBER 85% OF RESPONDENTS SAY THEY WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: ARE YOU HAVING DIFFICULTY FINDING A PARKING SPOT WHILE PURCHASE STREET IS CLOSED 85% OF RESPONDENTS SAY THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY DIFFICULTY FINDING A PARKING SPOT.

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CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE DINING IN A HEATED TENT KEEPING SOCIAL DISTANCING PROTOCOLS. AND THE ANSWER IS 80% OF PEOPLE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE EATING IN A TENT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: DO YOU NEED TO GO TO THE DRY CLEANER AS OFTEN AS YOU DID BEFORE THE PANDEMIC AND 90% OF PEOPLE SAID THEY DO NOT NEED TO GO TO THE DRY CLEANER AS OFTEN AS THEY DID BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: HAVE YOU STOPPED SHOPPING IN RIGHT BECAUSE PURCHASE STREET IS CLOSED AND HAPPILY I WILL SHARE THAT 85% OF RESPONDENTS SAID THEY HAVE NOT STOPPED.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: SADLY, ONLY 15% OF PEOPLE HAVE STOPPED SUPPORTING OUR RETAILERS. SO THOSE ARE THE FINDINGS OF THE SURVEY I DID. I WANTED TO GO TO RY MOMS. I ALSO EMAIL TO A BUNCH OF MY CONTACTS PEOPLE WHO I KNOW LIVE IN RIGHT AND ARE ACTIVE IN RIGHT CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: SOME PEOPLE HAVE CRITICIZED THE SURVEY, BECAUSE IT RYAN MOMS IS A YOUNG AGE POPULATION.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: I KNOW THE FOUR OF US WOMEN HERE ARE ON RYE MOMS AND WE KNOW PLENTY OF FRIENDS WHO ARE IN THE CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: AGE BRACKET AND OLDER AND CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: I DID TARGET RIGHT MOMS, BECAUSE I THINK WOMEN ARE MOSTLY CONSUMERS IN RIGHT A LOT OF THE STORES ARE GEARED TOWARDS EITHER WOMEN CLOTHING OR SHOES. WE ALSO BUY FOR OUR KIDS, OUR HUSBANDS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: THE REASON WHY THE, THE QUESTION ABOUT THE DRY CLEANERS IS THERE. I JUST WANTED TO, TO SEE WHAT THE CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: CHANGING BEHAVIOR HAS HAVE WE SEEN DURING THE PANDEMIC. OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T SHOP. THE SAME WAY WE DON'T DIE. THE SAME WAY WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME NEEDS. SO SOME THINGS ARE CHANGING AND AND WE HAVE TO ADAPT. I THINK THE THE MAIN KEY.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: ISSUE FOR US HERE IS WE KNOW WE'RE ATTRACTING A LOT OF PEOPLE INTO THE PLAZA BECAUSE I SEE IT EVERY DAY I GO BY THE PLAZA. EVERY DAY I GO TO STARBUCKS ALMOST EVERY DAY. AND IF NOT, I ALWAYS SHOP FOR PRESENCE AND I ALWAYS SHOP FOR MYSELF AND MY KIDS.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: IN RYAN I MAKE I MAKE THAT A POINT. HOW DO WE CAPITALIZE THAT FOOT TRAFFIC INTO COMING INTO THE STORES. IF THEY'RE NOT GOING INTO THE STORES WHY HAVING THE WINE SHOP RIGHT NEXT TO LONG FORD'S FOR EVERY KID THAT WANTS AN ICE CREAM. THERE'S AN ADULT ACCOMPANY THAT CHILD.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: HOW CAN WE CAPITALIZE AND MAKE THAT FOOT TRAFFIC GO AND STOP IN THE SHOP AND AND PURCHASE SOMETHING, WHETHER IT IS A BOTTLE OF WINE, HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE GUYS TO SHOP OR OR SOMETHING ELSE. I THINK THAT WE ARE CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT NEED CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE'S A REASON WHY FOOD COURTS ARE IN SHOPPING MALLS AND THAT CAN I MAYOR JOSH COHN: CAN'T REALLY CAROLINA MAYOR JOSH COHN: YEAH, I'M GONNA ASK ASK YOU TO WAIT UNTIL WE AS A COUNCIL TAKE OUR TURNS SPEAKING, BUT LET'S LET'S LET THE PUBLIC CONTINUE TO SPEAK AND EFFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED MAYOR JOSH COHN: SO WE HAVE SOMEONE NAMED JIM WAITING JIM: CAN YOU HEAR ME.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: YES, JIM, COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR, YOUR FULL NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

JIM: JIM SULLIVAN PARTNER OF RUBIES AND RIGHT GRILL.

JIM: FIRST OF ALL, CAROLYN, GREAT JOB.

JIM: THE ONLY OTHER COMMENTS, I REALLY WANT TO MAKE IS OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS I'VE SPOKEN TO MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND BASICALLY THE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME MESSAGE IS DELIVERED EVERY TIME. WHY WOULDN'T WE KEEP THIS OPEN JIM: PEOPLE JUST COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD CLOSE IT DOWN, SUCH A GREAT THING. SO I'LL KEEP IT THAT SIMPLE. THANK YOU.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THANK YOU JIM. KRISTEN, COULD WE HAVE OUR NEXT KRISTEN WILSON: ROBIN NIRVANA, WHICH HAS RAISED HER HAND.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: ROBIN MAYOR JOSH COHN: EUROPE. PLEASE GO AHEAD.

ROBIN JOVANOVICH: HI, I'M SORRY I UNFORTUNATELY I'M REALLY SICK. AND IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR ME TO SPEAK AT LENGTH, WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE MAYOR JOSH COHN: WELL, WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE CAP ROBIN SO ROBIN JOVANOVICH: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ROBIN JOVANOVICH: THE BACKGROUND. I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK AT LENGTH. JOSH. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT THAT

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ROBIN JOVANOVICH: CAN CAN SOMEONE HELP ME TURN OFF THE BACKGROUND I HAVE ROBIN JOVANOVICH: TO CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: WRITE AND ROBIN JOVANOVICH: DIRECT ROBIN. I'M SORRY TO CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: INTERRUPT YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT VISIBLE. IT'S JUST YOUR VOICE.

ROBIN JOVANOVICH: OKAY, WELL, THAT'S FINE. YOU DON'T NEED TO SEE ME UP VERY SICK.

ROBIN JOVANOVICH: I THINK THAT WHAT THE SURVEY THAT CAROLINA COMPILED ROBIN JOVANOVICH: AND SERVICE TO THE MERCHANTS.

ROBIN JOVANOVICH: CERTAINLY WAS NOT HER INTENTION, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

ROBIN JOVANOVICH: BUT ROBIN JOVANOVICH: WHAT'S MISSING FROM THE SURVEY IS A LOT OF THINGS AT THE ROBIN JOVANOVICH: PLAZA. IF NOT, WHY NOT I WOULD HAVE ASKED ROBIN JOVANOVICH: DO WE NEED A PUBLIC WORKSHOP ON THE ISSUE BEFORE WE MAKE EXTEND AGAIN.

ROBIN JOVANOVICH: AND HAVE YOU FOUND IT A DEPTH DETERMINED THAT THE NORTH END TO PURCHASE THREE REMAINS CLOSED OFF AS MAYOR JOSH COHN: ROBIN, WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

ROBIN JOVANOVICH: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT SO THAT IT'S IT'S MAKING MY POINT. BUT I THINK THAT IT'S I REALLY PRAY ROBIN JOVANOVICH: TO EXTEND IT.

ROBIN JOVANOVICH: WITH THE PUBLIC A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE WHICH PEOPLE CAN ATTEND, WHETHER IT'S ON THE VILLAGE GREEN OR SOMEPLACE.

ROBIN JOVANOVICH: ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL ROBIN JOVANOVICH: AND THE MERCHANTS HAVE GONE OUT OF THEIR WAY TO TRY TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE PROBLEM IS AND ROBIN JOVANOVICH: HONESTLY, FEEL THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING LISTENED ROBIN JOVANOVICH: AND I JUST RECEIVED YOU AS A CITY COUNCIL YOUR YES YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DECISIVE. BUT YOU'RE ALSO BE ROBIN JOVANOVICH: OTHER AND LISTEN TO US.

ROBIN JOVANOVICH: I'M SORRY YOU CAN'T HEAR ME PROPERLY.

HARD TO HEAR MAYOR JOSH COHN: THANK YOU, ROBIN.

KRISTEN WILSON: ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND.

KRISTEN WILSON: A ABBY DURKIN ABBIE DURKIN: HI, I'LL JUST MAKE THAT QUICK. I FEEL LIKE I JUST NEED TO COMMENT ON ROBIN'S COMMENT. I THINK WHAT SHE WAS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT ALL MERCHANTS DON'T LIKE THAT I OWN PALMER AND PURCHASE AND WE DO LIKE THE PLAZA. WE HAVE FOUND ABBIE DURKIN: THAT IT'S BEEN A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE TOWN, IT ADDS A KIM CAMARADERIE IN THE TOWN. AND I DON'T THINK THAT ALL MERCHANTS HATE IT.

ABBIE DURKIN: I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME SAY THAT 47 MERCHANTS DON'T LIKE IT. THERE AREN'T 47 STORE FRONT MERCHANTS ON IN DOWNTOWN. I MEAN, MAYBE THAT'S SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE UPSTAIRS OR ABBIE DURKIN: ON ANOTHER STREET. I DON'T KNOW. BUT, OR JUST SIGNED IT, BECAUSE THEY SIGNED IT, BUT I KNOW A FAIR AMOUNT OF FIRST FLOOR BUSINESS OWNERS LIKE MYSELF THAT DO ENJOY THE PLAZA, INCLUDING RETAIL STORES, NOT JUST RESTAURANTS. SO I THINK THAT ROBIN ABBIE DURKIN: I DON'T KNOW. I THINK SHE ACTUALLY DOES A DISSERVICE TO THE PLAZA BY ALL THE ARTICLES THAT SHE PUTS OUT. I THINK THERE ARE A FEW LOCAL ABBIE DURKIN: BUSINESS OWNERS THAT DON'T LIKE IT. AND I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHY.

ABBIE DURKIN: I ABBIE DURKIN: DON'T I DON'T KNOW, HONESTLY, I'LL BE VERY BLUNT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PLAZA, OR IF IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND BECAUSE TIMES HAVE CHANGED.

ABBIE DURKIN: AND I THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING THE PLAZA, AND I HOPE THAT IT CONTINUES. AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS A VERY TOUGH POSITION THAT YOU GUYS ARE IN, SO I HOPE IT CONTINUES.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THANK YOU. ABBY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: KRISTEN, ARE THERE OTHERS ON THIS TOPIC.

KRISTEN WILSON: THERE IS AN ATOM ZAPPA ADAM ZAKKA: HEY THIS IS ADAMS AKA FROM AURORA. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: YES, WE CAN ADD THEM.

ADAM ZAKKA: AND JUST LIKE TO MAKE MENTION ADAM ZAKKA: THAT THE PLAZA HAS BEEN A BOON FOR US AND I THINK IT WAS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT ALL RETAILERS RESTAURANTS AND OTHERWISE ADAPT OUR NIMBLE IN BUSINESS AND CHANGED OUR MODEL TO DO A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

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ADAM ZAKKA: WE BEGAN TO SELL FOOD AND DRINK ONLINE AS SOON AS LEGISLATION WAS PASSED TO DO. SO THAT IS A NEW THING FOR RESTAURANTS, PROBABLY THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

ADAM ZAKKA: WHEREAS RETAIL HAS BEEN ONLINE FOR A DECADE. I DON'T THINK PARKING IS A NECESSARY REQUIREMENT TO SELL GOODS THAT CAN BE SHIPPED OR DELIVERED ADAM ZAKKA: WHEREAS FOOD AND DRINK FOR THE MOST PART, BY AND LARGE, NEEDS TO BE DELIVERED WITHIN HALF HOUR IF NOT DINED ON PREMISE.

ADAM ZAKKA: AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE MENTION THAT RESTAURANTS ARE THE MOST INTENSIVE USERS OF PUBLIC SPACE IN THE DOWNTOWN AND WE ARE ANCHORING THE STREET I EMPLOY MORE PEOPLE I PAY MORE AND REMIT MORE AND SALES TAX, AND I ALSO CAN GET MORE RESOURCES TO ADAM ZAKKA: SOCIAL SECURITY AND OTHER THINGS I COLLECT AND PAYROLL TAXES BUT ADAM ZAKKA: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COMPROMISE AND AT LEAST GET. MY ONLY REQUEST IS THAT I GET AT LEAST GET A SMALLER TENT, SO THAT I CAN CONTINUE TO EMPLOY ALL THE PEOPLE I EMPLOY. NOW I WILL HAVE TO LAY PEOPLE OFF AGAIN IF I DON'T ADAM ZAKKA: CONTINUE TO HAVE SOME OUTDOOR SPACE. I ONLY HAVE ABOUT 35 SEATS AT 50% CAPACITY AND IT JUST WON'T WORK FOR US. SO WITHOUT SAYING MUCH MORE I THINK THAT, IN SUMMARY, ADAM ZAKKA: I DON'T REALLY SEE ANY DETRACTORS FROM THE PLAZA. OUTSIDE OF PEOPLE NEEDING TO ADAPT THEIR BUSINESS MODEL.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THANK YOU, ADAM.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: CHRISTIAN ANYONE ELSE ON THE TOPIC.

KRISTEN WILSON: OR NO MORE HANDS RAISED AT THIS TIME. SO, GOING ONCE KRISTEN WILSON: GOING TWICE.

KRISTEN WILSON: NO. NO OTHER TAKERS.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OKAY, SO PLEASE COUNT COUNCIL. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO, TO THE MATTER.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: BE PREPARED PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE IS IS IS IS STATED TO KEEP THE LAWS IN PLACE THROUGH NOVEMBER 30 SUBJECT OR EARLIER CLOSURE. THE STAFF DECIDE SOMETHING MAYOR JOSH COHN: EXIGENT IS THE WORD WE'RE USING HAS HAPPENED THAT REQUIRES EARLIER CLOSURE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I THINK WE'D PROBABLY WANT TO LEAVE WITH STAFF, THE ABILITY TO FIDDLE MAYOR JOSH COHN: WITH THE PLAZA. AND THAT'S THE WRONG WORD, BECAUSE I THINK IMPORTANT STEPS HAVE BEEN DONE OVER THE EVOLUTION OF THE PLAZA, THAT IS MAYOR JOSH COHN: OPENING THE SOUTH AND FIRST TO LOCUST OPENING LOCUSTS TO SMITH. I'M NOT SURE WHAT WELL I I THINK IT'S TOUGH TO FIND POSSIBILITIES. NOW, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS HOPE FOR CREATIVITY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: BUT FUNDAMENTALLY, THE PROPOSAL IS PLAZA THROUGH NOVEMBER 30 SUBJECT TO EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES IF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT ISSUE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: GOSH, I THINK SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE GOTTEN ABOUT THE PLAZA IS ON THE NEGATIVE SIDE. MOST OF IT IS POSITIVE, LIKE I SAY THE 85% OF PEOPLE SUPPORTED 90% OF PEOPLE HAVE ENJOYED IT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT IN THE SURVEY, ANYTHING THAT WASN'T QUANTITATIVE THAT IT WAS CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION. WELL, I THINK IT'S THESE ARE I THINK IT'S THAT I WANTED CLEAR CUT NUMBERS DATA. SOMEBODY ASKED WAS ASKING FOR DATA AT THE LAST MEETING. SO I JUST WANTED TO COLLECT A LITTLE BIT OF DATA.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK SOME OF THE OBSERVATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IS THAT KIDS ARE NOT GETTING OFF THEIR BIKES OR RIDING ON THEIR SKATEBOARDS THAT WE NEED A LITTLE MORE POLICE PRESENCE IN THE VILLAGE, AND IT COULD BE BEAUTIFIED THE AESTHETICS OF IT COULD BE IMPROVED.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: TO THAT EFFECT. I SPOKE WITH THE RIGHT GARDEN CLUB, WHO GAVE ME SOME IDEAS. ONE OF THEM IS HAZE OF CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: BALES OF HAY OR AROUND JUST TO BEAUTIFY A LITTLE BIT AND CAMOUFLAGE. SOME OF THE CONCRETE BARRIERS THAT I THINK OBVIOUSLY ARE NECESSARY AND FOR SAFETY.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: PURPOSES AND IT'S ABOUT $250 AND HOME DEPOT CAN DELIVER THAT. SO THAT'S JUST THAT ARE AND PUMPKINS IN THAT WOULD GO NICELY WITH THE WITH THE TIME OF YEAR, WE'RE IN AND CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, SO HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY I DID RELAY. SOME OF THESE INFORMATION. SOMEBODY CAN OR WE CAN GET A $500 OR $750 TO BEAUTIFY A LITTLE BIT THE PLAZA AND MAKE IT AESTHETICALLY MORE PLEASING.

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JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: CAROLYN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE POINT THERE. I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE CHAMBER IS WANTING TO DO THIS AS WELL, AND THEY JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: THEY GOT NEW SIGNAGE AT THE NORTH END OF THE STREET, AND THEY ALSO I THINK BOUGHT ALL THE MOMS THAT WERE FOR SALE AT COSTCO.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOME OF THOSE EFFORTS. BUT REALLY, LIKE BIGGER EFFORTS. I THINK HAVE BEEN HARD TO JUSTIFY WHEN IT'S BEEN

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JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: ADMITTEDLY, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS PIECEMEAL, RIGHT. SO I THINK IF THIS WAS SOMETHING WE WERE TO REVISIT LET'S SAY AS AN ANNUAL THING, WHICH IS A LOT OF THE SUGGESTIONS. I'M GETTING WHICH IS HEY, LET'S DO THIS EVERY SUMMER SORT OF THING. IF WE WERE TO REVISIT IT JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK THEN THERE COULD BE REAL, YOU KNOW, REAL INVESTMENT AND I THINK FROM THE RESTAURANTS PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, IF ADAM STILL ON THIS CALL. HE'S PROBABLY LIKE JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: I MADE A LOT OF INVESTMENT. AND HOW ABOUT HEAT LAMPS ABOUT OUTDOOR TABLES. I BOUGHT YOU KNOW A PLANTERS AND STANCHIONS AND SOME AND SOME PEOPLE. CAN YOU GUYS SEE THIS ON MY PHONE. CAN YOU SEE THAT JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: LIKE, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE PYLONS THINGS THAT IT'S IN FRONT OF SUNRISE AND THEY MADE IT LIKE A JACKAL. IT'S ADORABLE.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: PEOPLE ARE GETTING CREATIVE WITH THIS AND I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS WITH THE AESTHETIC COULD BE BETTER.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE JUST IT WAS SORT OF A MOVING TARGET.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT I KNOW THE CHAMBER'S GIVEN QUITE A BIT OF CONSIDERATION TO THAT AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD BE MADE EITHER, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE END OF THIS SEASON AND WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN FUTURE SEASONS WHERE WE'D HAVE RESURRECTED.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH, I JUST, I WANT TO WEIGH IN, TOO, I FIRST OF ALL, I THINK.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS. I THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM THE SHOPPERS FROM OUR RESIDENTS FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS BECAUSE SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING. WE CAN'T MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. UNLESS WE HEAR FROM YOU. SO, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT COMING.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND IT SEEMS FROM WHAT I'VE READ OR WHAT I'VE HEARD PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO THAT. IT'S EXTREMELY WELL RECEIVED.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I READ AN EMAIL SOMEWHERE OR MAYBE IT WAS ON A SURVEY WOMEN. SOMEONE ALSO MENTIONED THE FARMERS MARKET AND THAT COULD BE AN ADDITIONAL DRAW TO BRING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN. GO TO THE FARMERS MARKET. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OFF YOU GO TO EAT AND TO SHOP.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO OBVIOUSLY THANK THE CHAMBER AND THE CITY STAFF FOR ALL OF THEIR THEY'RE EXTREMELY HARD WORK AND AND JUST KIND OF RESPONDING TO ALL OF THE CHANGES SO SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE POSITIVE END ON THE ON THE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT, AND I'VE HEARD SIMILAR THINGS. THE ONE THAT SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: SEEMS TO KEEP COMING BACK IS THE SKATEBOARDING, AND THE BIKING AND, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT THAT SOMEBODY EVEN SAID THAT SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW ENFORCEMENT IS NON EXISTENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE BUT BUT I HEAR IT FROM RESIDENTS AND I HEAR IT FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS. SO IF WE CAN SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: REALLY GET ON TOP OF THAT AND OBVIOUSLY PARENTS IF THEY CAN ENCOURAGE THEIR KIDS TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY NOT AN ESCAPE PARK THERE TOO. THAT'S HELPFUL, OBVIOUSLY.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: THE OTHER THING THAT I'VE HEARD THAT I HADN'T NOTICED, BUT I'VE HEARD FROM ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT I THINK IT'S WORTH MENTIONING IS THE LITTER THAT APPARENTLY THERE IS LITTER GARBAGE THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE PICKED UP SO SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M JUST GOING TO THROW IT OUT THERE. AS I SAID, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THEN THERE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN CONTINUING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT LACK OF PARKING AGAIN. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, BUT SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO RAISE THAT AND THEN CONFUSION OVER TRAFFIC PATTERNS AS SOMEBODY WHO GETS LOST EASILY I CAN SYMPATHIZE WITH THAT, WHICH IS WHY I EITHER WALK OR BIKE TO TOWN.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO TO TOUCH ON ONE OTHER THING THAT I'VE HEARD FROM A FEW PEOPLE I'VE GOTTEN A COUPLE OF EMAILS, IT'S SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT SOME, SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS FEEL THAT THAT THAT HAVING A DISSENTING POINT OF VIEW THAT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO SPEAK OUT.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND YOU KNOW, I READ SOME OF THE I'VE READ THE EMAILS FROM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SUPPORTING IT, AND PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST IT AGAINST EXTENDING IT SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND FOR THE BUSINESS OWNERS. YOU JUST, YOU CAN JUST SEE THE WORRY AND THE FEAR AND YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT. I MEAN, IT'S THE FEAR OF FINANCIAL RUIN. AND I GET IT ON BOTH SIDES. I, I JUST CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT

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SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: ALL OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE GOING THROUGH. SO IF THEY PERCEIVE THAT IT'S HURTING THEM.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: THEN THAT FEAR IS REAL. AND I JUST, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT YOU KNOW IT'S TO KNOW THAT IT'S A TERRIBLE TIME AND EVERYONE'S VIEWPOINT IS HEARD.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THAT THE PROCESS IS OPEN AND TRANSPARENT AND ALSO THAT YOU KNOW SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS OR SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS CAN BE CONSTRUCTIVE ONES THAT WE CAN WE CAN LEARN WE CAN LEARN FROM SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST HAD TWO QUESTIONS BEFORE I STOPPED TALKING, WHICH IS, FIRST OF ALL, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE, SO I APOLOGIZE. DID, DID THE CITY LOOK AT OTHER PARTS OF RYE IN A RETAIL AND DINING AREAS.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: OUTSIDE OF THE MAIN SHOPPING AREA. THE MAIN DOWNTOWN PURCHASE STREET IF THERE WAS ANY WAY TO DO ON YOU KNOW SIDEWALK DINING OR OR HAS HAVE THOSE SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: RESTAURANTS REACHED OUT TO THE CITY TO ASK FOR SIMILAR STUFF AND HOW WE RESPONDED AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, DID YOU CONTACT IN TERMS OF BEST PRACTICES. HAS ANYBODY CONTACTED OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND TALKED TO SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: TO, YOU KNOW, EITHER THE ELECTED OFFICIALS OR THE YOU KNOW THE STAFF AT THOSE OTHER OR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AT IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO SEE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT WORKS. AND ALSO, MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT DIDN'T WORK FOR THEM AND HOW THEY HOW THEY FIXED IT. AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT BECAUSE THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL AS IF WE DO GO FORWARD.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: I CAN JUST TAKE THAT LAST PART BECAUSE I'VE ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE MUNICIPALITIES REACH OUT AND ASK, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU GUYS IN FROM JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: THE OUTSIDE VIEW WITH. IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL RIGHT BECAUSE PEOPLE IN THEIR TOWN ARE SAYING WE'VE GONE AWRY. WHY CAN'T YOU DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND RISE. SO I'VE HAD SEVERAL ELECTED OFFICIALS AND NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES REACHED OUT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE HOW WE WERE DOING IT.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: SO IT'S ALMOST A LITTLE BIT OF THE OPPOSITE. AND INTERESTINGLY, ON THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THE LAST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE MEETING.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: SHERRY, WHO'S A MEMBER GEORGE LATIMER HIS OFFICE AND DOES A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKS WITH THE LOCAL BUSINESSES AND MUNICIPALITIES.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: SAYS THAT SHE'S USING RIGHT AS SORT OF THE EXAMPLE OF WHAT TO DO RIGHT IN TERMS OF A REALLY STRONG COOPERATIVE WORKING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CHAMBER AND THE CITY STAFF AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, SO, SO I THINK AT LEAST TO THE EXTENT SARAH THAT JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: IT, THERE'S GOOD PR AROUND THIS IN TERMS OF PEOPLE BEING REALLY HAPPY WITH, YOU KNOW, IN POINTING TO RYE AS AS A AS A SUCCESS STORY, ACKNOWLEDGING JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: OF COURSE, THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST AS IS TRUE IN MANHATTAN AND EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY, NOT EVERY BUSINESS IS UNFORTUNATELY GOING TO SURVIVE THIS PANDEMIC AND THEN IT'S HEARTBREAKING, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN IN. RIGHT, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN. WE'RE CONTINUING TO TWEAK AND IMPROVE AS JOSH SAID, AND I THINK WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THOSE WAYS. AND I KNOW GREG AND THE STAFF HAVE BEEN RELENTLESS IN THEIR PURSUIT OF IMPROVED MEANT JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: AS HAS THE CHAMBER.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND CERTAINLY WE'RE LOOKING, YOU KNOW WHERE ELSE CAN WE LEARN. UNFORTUNATELY, EACH EACH VILLAGE MUNICIPALITY RUBBERS, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW LINKS WITH SOME STREETS AND AND WHATNOT. SO I MEAN, UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT WE'RE FINDING WITH THE PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME. I FOUND IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WELL, YOU GUYS HAVE A WIDER PURCHASE STREET OR YOU HAVE AN ERROR OR ONE OR WHATEVER. SO I THINK JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK THAT WE'RE ABSOLUTELY ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT WE CAN BORROW TO MAKE IT BETTER. BUT IT'S ENCOURAGING TO HEAR THAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE COMING TO US FOR THAT TOO.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT, THERE WAS A LOW HUD REPORTER WHO IS COVERING THIS PHENOMENON IN ACROSS WEST CHESTER, AT LEAST AS OF THEM, A MONTH AGO. I HAVEN'T SEEN MORE RECENT ARTICLES, BUT SHE SENT ME AN EMAIL AT THE MAYOR JOSH COHN: AT THE END OF HER SEEMED AT THE END OF HER SERIES OR A PAUSE POINT MAYOR JOSH COHN: CONGRATULATING RYE AND SAYING THAT SHE HAD VISITED MANY OF THE TOWNS IN WESTCHESTER THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON OUTDOOR DINING AND I DON'T REMEMBER IF SHE SAID THAT WE WE HAD DONE IT THE BEST, BUT SHE CERTAINLY SHE GAVE IT HIGH PRAISE, SO THERE THERE WAS THERE WAS THAT SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH, SO THAT'S ALL GREAT. IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORRIED. THIS IS, YOU KNOW,

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SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: THIS CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: SHOULD ALL WORK.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: FOR US.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND AND THEN SO SO IT DOESN'T HURT, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO PICK UP THE PHONE, OR TO EMAIL AND FIND OUT WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING AND AND SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: WE'RE RIGHT. IT COULD BE THAT THIS IS THE WAY IT IS. AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: OR THERE MAY BE SOMETHING TO LEARN FROM THOSE MUNICIPALITIES TO SEE, YOU KNOW, OH WELL, THEY, THEY DID, THEY, THEY WERE DOING THIS BUT THEY CHANGE THAT AND IT REALLY WORKED. SO THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS JUST TO SEE WHAT OTHER BECAUSE SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AS, AS YOU'VE SAID THERE ARE QUITE A FEW MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE HAVE ADOPTED THIS THIS CONCEPT OF SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, ON STREET PARKING AND IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT, UH, WHAT THEY WHAT THEY'VE BEEN UP TO.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: GREAT QUESTION.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: YEAH, THEY HAD, THEY HAD THE FIRST ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION, GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: IN TERMS OF THE RESTAURANTS ETC OFF PURCHASE TREE, THE COUNCIL ACTION ON JUNE 10 ACTUALLY GAVE STAFF, THE ABILITY TO DO TO DO A PLAN ACROSS THE CITY AND WE DIDN'T CONTACT GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: ALL OF THE RESTAURANTS, WHETHER THEY WERE ON PURCHASE STREET OR NOT. HIGH STREET ROADHOUSE GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: DID I BELIEVE DIRECTOR, TED. SHORTLY AFTER ALL THIS HAPPENED ALL THE NORMAL PERMITTING PROCESS ETC WAS ALL WAIVED IN LIGHT OF THE COUNCIL ACTION.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WE NONE OF THE OTHER RESTAURANTS OFF THE PLAZA AREA OR THE DOWNTOWN AREA CHOSE TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY SO BUT. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE, WE DID AN OUTREACH TO EVERYBODY.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: IN TERMS OF DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, WE'VE ACTUALLY VISITED ABOUT A HALF A DOZEN OTHER LOCATIONS IN THIS PROCESS. AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME CRITICISM OF THE YOU KNOW THE CONCRETE BARRIERS AND ETC.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: JUST TO KNOW THAT ALWAYS COPIED ALMOST DOWN TO THE INCH FROM WHAT WAS DONE IN GREENWICH, BECAUSE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES POINTED TO GREENWICH DURING THOSE FIRST WEEKS AS BEING THE PERFECT MODEL.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AND SO WE MOVED AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD MODELING AND AFTER, AFTER GREENWICH, BUT WE HAVE VISTA, YOU KNOW, GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: OTHER LOCATIONS. WE'VE LOOKED AT REFERENCES AND I THERE'S BEEN SOME PICTURES THAT HAVE FLOATED AROUND ABOUT HERE'S WHAT THESE MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WE HAVE GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT ALL OF THOSE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT. SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I MEAN, IT'S A DYNAMIC PROCESS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BE AS AGILE AS WE CAN, YOU KNOW, UNDER, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: ARE THERE'S AN THE COUNCIL.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: BAN YOUR VIEW.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: UM, I GUESS. I MEAN, LOOK, THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN A LOT SAID ABOUT THIS, I SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL, AS PRESENTED BY CITY STAFF. I THINK THE CITY STAFFS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB, CONSIDERING YOU KNOW THE ENVIRONMENT, THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE ALL FACED BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND YOU KNOW I FEEL FOR THE FOLKS FOR THE RETAILERS THAT ARE NOT DOING WELL. I KNOW IT'S A REALLY CHALLENGING ENVIRONMENT.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I YOU KNOW I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT MUST BE LIKE TO SUFFER HERE, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON. BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR HAS HAS BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: TRIED TO BENEFIT THE MOST NOT ONLY BUSINESSES BUT BUT FOLKS IN TOWN AS WELL. AND PERSONALLY, I'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM FROM THE FOLKS I TALKED WITH I'VE NOT HEARD ONE.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, FRIENDS RESIDENT TELL ME THAT THAT THEY THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT WE'VE DONE A PURCHASE PLAZA. I'VE EVEN REACHED OUT TO FRIENDS IN IN AND NEIGHBORING TOWNS THAT COME INTO RYE THAT THAT LOVE THE SETUP AND THEY THEY LOVE COMING HERE AND BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: ACTUALLY A FRIEND, AN OLD COLLEAGUE CALLED ME TODAY AND SAID HE WAS UP AT HE LIVES ON LONG ISLAND AND WAS UP IN WESTCHESTER OVER THE WEEKEND IN CHELMSFORD, BUT BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: A FRIEND OF HIS SAID THEY HAD DINNER. AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO GO TO ARRIVE, BECAUSE I LOVE LONG FOR HIS ICE CREAM AND THEY CAME OVER AND THEY HAD LONG PRINTS ICE CREAM. AND THEY WALKED AROUND THE PLAZA AND LOVED IT.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I SAID, PS. DID YOU MIND SPENDING A COUPLE BUCKS ON PARKING AND HE SAID ABSOLUTELY NOT I, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST SUCH A GREAT EXPERIENCE. I LOVE BEING HERE. NOW, AGAIN, THAT'S ONE PERSON. BUT AGAIN, THE, THE ANECDOTES KEEP ADDING UP AT LEAST FOR ME.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: I TOTALLY FEEL FOR THE FOR THE RETAILERS THAT ARE SUFFERING AND I HOPE THEY CAN BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, ADJUST AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK THIS BETTER, BUT I YOU KNOW I AM A SUPPORTER OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE SO FAR AND I THINK

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BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: NOT ONLY DO I SUPPORT EXTENDING THIS THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE REQUESTED TIMEFRAME OF NOVEMBER, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD SPEND THE WINTER, THINKING ABOUT HOW TO CONTINUE TO TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT PURCHASE STREET AS POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, A AT LEAST PARTIALLY PEDESTRIAN PLAZA BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE FEEDBACKS BEEN SO FANTASTIC. YOU KNOW, AND FROM EVERYBODY I'VE TALKED TO SO I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME EFFORT OVER THE WINTER TO THINK ABOUT THIS IN A MORE PERMANENT WAY, BUT WE CAN WE CAN LEAVE THAT ON ANOTHER TIME. THAT'S MY DOG.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: I BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: IF I CAN JUST SAY SAY ONE THING, HOW CAN WE IMPROVE. AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND THE NERVE WRACKING SITUATION THAT ALL RETAILERS ARE IN CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: IMAGINE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN JANUARY WHEN THE RESTAURANTS ARE CLOSED AT ONLY FOR INDOOR DINING AND I JUST, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO THE PLAZA PEOPLE ARE WALKING THE PLAZA PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING THE PLAZA A DIFFERENT HOURS AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: I SEE IT REGULARLY EVERY DAY. HOW DO WE CONVERT THAT FOOT TRAFFIC INTO SHOPPERS INTO SPENDING MONEY AT THE RETAILERS AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE RETAILERS NEED THE MOST HELP. AND HOW CAN WE HELP THEM.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, OR IS THERE A DO THEY NEED ANY SUPPORT, ADVICE OR I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN WE CAN HELP THEM.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S SUCH A GOOD QUESTION. CAROLINA AND AND PERHAPS YOU KNOW LET'S HOPE THAT THAT A LOT OF THE RETAILERS ARE LISTENING AND CAN GIVE US THE FEEDBACK BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY THE PROBLEM I THINK SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU DO SEE PEOPLE COMING, THEY LIKE IT. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE SHOPPING THEIR DINING, BUT HOW DO YOU TRANSLATE IT INTO SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: GOING INTO THE STORE AND ACTUALLY BUYING SOMETHING SO IF THERE'S ANY ANYTHING, ANY SUGGESTIONS OR IDEAS AND OBVIOUSLY WE WILL ALL BE THINKING OF IT AS WELL. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE RETAILER'S KNOW BEST.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: THEIR YOU KNOW THEIR OWN BUSINESSES AND WHAT WHAT CAN DRAW YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO US AND LET US KNOW.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH, AND I WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT POINT TOO, BECAUSE THE CHAMBER HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF THIS TO THEY HAVE SUBCOMMITTEES AND PAPER FOR RETAILERS AND FOR RESTAURANTS AND SO THEY'VE BEEN JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE BUT THOSE GROUPS HAVE BEEN MEETING TO AND TRYING TO SHARE BEST PRACTICES AND THE CHAMBER HAS BEEN GREAT ABOUT TRYING TO EVEN BRING IN OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS AT THESE MEETINGS TO HELP AND GIVE ADVICE AND JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: LIZ, WOULD SHE WAS BEING HONORED TONIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS LIVES AT THE WAY RIGHT HOUSE ONE OF THE CO PRESIDENTS AND ALSO HAS A BUSINESS IN CONSULTING SOCIAL MEDIA HAS OFFERED HER SERVICES FOR FREE, FOR EXAMPLE, TO A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES SO JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I THINK YOU KNOW IT, THERE'S NO SHORTAGE, THERE'S NO STOPPING THE IDEA FLOW AND WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO LOOK SARAH TO YOUR EARLIER POINT ABOUT BEST PRACTICES ELSEWHERE TO HELP SUPPORT.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: HELP SUPPORT THEM I JOSH, I DO WANT TO SEE IF RICHARD PAM WANT TO SAY ANYTHING. AND IF JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: WE LIKE TO MOVE THIS OVER.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: TO YOU. YEAH, WELL LET'S LET'S SEE IF PAM AND RICH WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AM PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH, I'M PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: SO, PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: CONCEPTUALLY, I LOVE THIS. I'M ONE OF THE 460 PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED TO CAROLINAS POLL POSITIVELY. BUT HERE'S MY PROBLEM. I WAS ELECTED TO REPRESENT EVERYBODY. AND I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHOSE VOICES ARE BEING PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: MORE MARGINALIZED SHUT DOWN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TERM. I'M NOT SAYING ANYONE'S DOING IT PURPOSEFULLY PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT THAT WE'RE SORT OF CREATING A WINNERS AND LOSERS. HEY, IF YOU'RE A RESTAURANT IN TOWN. WE GOT YOU COVERED. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT LITTLE RETAILER DOWN STREET. YOU'RE NOT COVERED AND TOO BAD YOU BETTER FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF, OR YOU'RE GONE. AND THAT'S I PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH THAT INTELLECTUALLY. UM, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE CREATING AN UNEVEN PLAYING FIELD. I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE WINNERS AND LOSERS AND THAT THERE ARE SOME PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: FUNDAMENTAL FLAWS WITH THE CURRENT ARRANGEMENT AND I BROUGHT THEM UP BEFORE PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: I SAID, YOU KNOW, THEODORE FRIEND. WE HAVE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS THERE SOME OF ITS BECAUSE OF CONTENT. SOME OF IT IS BECAUSE WE'VE INCREASED THE TRAFFIC ON THEODORE FRIEND.

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: TO THE POINT WHERE WHICH THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE HAVE CAR STUCK SITTING THERE ON THEODORE FRIEND WHO ORDINARILY WOULDN'T BE PUTTING

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PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: THEIR SMOGGY SMOKE INTO THE AIR IN FRONT OF PEOPLE'S CO OPS, WHO ARE LIVING IN THAT AREA.

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: THERE ARE DISABLED PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE NOT APPROPRIATE, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ACCOMMODATING TRULY THE DISABLED WITH THIS SORT OF HAPHAZARD APPROACH WE'VE TAKEN PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: UM, I HAVE A PROBLEM THAT WE DON'T HAVE A REAL ECONOMIC RETENTION PLAN IN PLACE. WE HAVE AN URBAN PLANNER, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROBABLY AS PART OF THIS COVEN THING SAT DOWN AND SAID, TELL US WHAT ECONOMIC RETENTION TOOLS WE CAN USE SOMEBODY TOLD ME THERE'S ONLY FIVE OR SIX

[6. Residents may be heard on matters for Council consideration that do not appear on the agenda.]

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: OWNERS IN ALL OF THE DOWNTOWN. IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN PERHAPS WE SHOULD BE INITIATING SHOWING LEADERSHIP AND GOING OUT AND TALKING TO THEM AND TRYING TO HELP.

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: IN SOME WAY WITH THEIR RENTS UM PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: I PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: I WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS PUSHING FOR DATA. I'M THE ONE THAT MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT DATA. AND TO ME, DATA WASN'T A SURVEY, IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT TO ME, DATA ISN'T IS PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: HERE'S A TRAFFIC STUDY. THIS WORKS TO ME DATA IS THIS IS THE RETAIL STORES AND PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: HOW MANY RETAIL STORES IN THE REGION ARE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY'RE THIS SIZE AND THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING. AND THESE ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE USING TO SAVE THEM.

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I'M RAMBLING ON AT YOU, BUT I HAVE SOME REAL PROBLEMS AGREEING TO SORT OF ARTIFICIALLY PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: SUPPLEMENT SOME BUSINESSES BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING THROUGH THE PLAZA AND SAYING THE OTHER BUSINESSES CHAOS DE MELLO CFO AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. IT JUST DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. AND I'M HAVING A HARD TIME PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M LOOKING FOR YOU GUYS TO GIVE ME SOMETHING I CAN HOLD ON TO. SO I CAN VOTE FOR THIS.

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: YES, DON'T HAVE IT.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN I ASK THE QUESTION, THE DATA I DID GIVE SOME DATA THERE. I MEAN 33% OF SMALL BUSINESSES IN NEW YORK CITY ALONE WILL NOT AND HAVE NOT SURVIVED THIS PANDEMIC. THEY'RE THINKING OVER 50% OF THE RESTAURANTS IN NEW YORK CITY WON'T MAKE IT THROUGH THIS. SO THIS IS NOT A JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: AS MUCH AS I WOULD, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE EASIER IF IT WAS A PURCHASE STRAIGHT THING AND THEN WE COULD, YOU KNOW, PLUS, BUT IT'S NOT THERE. IS THERE MORE JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: MORE RETAILERS DECLARING BANKRUPTCY IN 2020 THAN I THINK ANY OTHER YEAR PRIOR TO THIS, RIGHT. THIS IS THERE'S A FUNCTION THAT'S FAR BEYOND OUR LITTLE ADORABLE DOWNTOWN JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT ARE THAT'S IMPACTING RETAIL. RETAIL ITSELF HAS BEEN ON A BEEN A VERY CHALLENGED FOOTING FOR A VERY VERY LONG TIME, YOU KNOW, CONSUMER HABITS HAVE CHANGED.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE IN SOME OF THE IN THE ONE THING I JUST WANT TO CORRECT A LITTLE BIT HERE IS TO ASSUME THAT WE'RE CREATING WINNERS AND LOSERS, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT RIGHT. WE'RE TRYING TO HELP AS MANY JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: WE'LL KEN AND THERE ARE RETAILERS THAT ARE BEING QUITE SUCCESSFUL A JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: PERIOD OF PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: TIME HE REALLY SO PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: SO IT'S NOT A RESTAURANT OR IF IT IS. LISTEN TO THE WAY PEOPLE TALK WE HAD TODAY. SOMEBODY WHO SAID I PAY MORE. WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT SAYS SAID SOMETHING ABOUT PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T HAVE IT HERE IN FRONT OF ME NOW. BUT I MEAN, I'VE BEEN TAKING DOWN THESE NOTES FROM PEOPLE. IT IS TOTALLY AN US AGAINST THEM THING WHICH IS NOT PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: REALLY JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK YOU PAINTING IT LIKE THAT MAKES IT SO THAT IS

[7. Affirmation of food scrap drop-off program and extension of existing curbside pick-up pilot until January 31, 2022.]

TRUE.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: OF EVERYTHING THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS HAS BEEN IN GOODWILL AND TRYING TO HELP OUR BUSINESSES AND YOU CAN HELP AS MUCH AS YOU WANT, BUT THERE IS SOME POINT WHERE JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: AS I THINK ADAM SAID PEOPLE NEED TO EVOLVE THEIR BUSINESS MODELS TO. SO SOME OF THESE STORES THAT ARE COMPLAINING HAVE REDUCED THEIR HOURS. SOME OF THEM ARE OPEN, NO MORE THAN 25 HOURS A WEEK OR BY APPOINTMENT, ONLY SOME OF THEM HAVE NO OR JUST GOT ONLINE.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: E COMMERCE OR WEBSITE RIGHT SO SO THOSE THAT ARE THRIVING ARE THOSE TO ADAMS POINT THAT ARE ADAPTING. SO, SO AGAIN, HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, INTRODUCE YOU TO E COMMERCE VENDORS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: HAPPY TO DO IT.

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: LET ME JUST CORRECT THAT. AND I LOVE THIS CONVERSATION. I REALLY KNOW WE BOTH WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND I DON'T IN ANY WAY THINK ANYBODY IS TRYING TO DO THE WRONG THING HERE. OKAY.

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN VALUES OF HOW TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. I LOVE THIS. BUT HERE'S THE THING.

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: WE ARE SAYING, I'VE HEARD YOU. I DON'T REMEMBER THE LADY'S NAME, WHO SAYS, MY BUSINESS IS SUFFERING BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE FOOT TRAFFIC. I'VE WALKED THE STREETS MYSELF. I'VE ASKED RETAILERS. I HAVE HEARD THEM SAY

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PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE, BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T PASSING ON THE STREET IN THEIR CARS AND STOPPING AND SAYING, OH, LOOK AT THAT CUTE PERSONAL WINDOW. I'M GOING TO STOP AND GO IN, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING THAT FOOT TRAFFIC ISN'T COMING PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: UP THAT DRIVE BY TRAFFIC THAT IS NOT JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: RETAIL PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY.

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: LET ME FINISH.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I'M SORRY.

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: IF I KNOW BOTH OF US ARE VERY, YOU KNOW, WE BOTH LOVE LOVE THE ISSUE. BUT BY DOING THAT BY DOING THAT BY SAYING WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE OUR STREETS OPEN FOR OUR FOR RESTAURANTS ONLY PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: ALL GIVEN PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: ME IF I WOULD BE A WHITE PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: BOYS. IF YOU GO TO DOBBS FERRY, OR YOU GO TO OTHER PLACES THE WISER CHOICE WAS TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF PARKING SPOTS. LET'S GO TAKE UP PARKING SPOTS IN FRONT PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND NOT NOT AFFECT THE STREET CIRCULATION NOT AFFECT THE TRAFFIC ITSELF, BUT LET'S JUST TAKE PARKING SPOTS. NOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONTROL WHERE WE CAN SAY, YOU CAN HAVE THREE PARKING SPOTS IN FRONT OF YOUR RESTAURANT YOUR STORE. THEY'RE STILL MOVEMENT ON THE STREETS, BACK AND FORTH.

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT WAS NOT AFFECTED YOUR FRIENDS.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT YOU'RE ALSO NOT SOLVING MENTALITY MAYOR JOSH COHN: WHERE WE GO WHEN WE NEED TO MOVE THIS CONVERSATION ALONG. JULIA IF YOU WOULD BRIEFLY REPLY TO PAM AS YOU WISH. THEN I'LL JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST UNLESS RICH WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING I I RESPECT EVERYTHING THAT PAM IS SAYING, AND IT IS NOT PERFECT, I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE, THE INTENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO DO AS MUCH GOOD AS WE CAN FOR AS MANY AS WE CAN.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: STILL THE INTENT.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: IS IT PERFECT. NO. IS IT HELPING THE MAJORITY. YES, THEREFORE I'M THAT WE UNLESS RICHIE WANT TO STEP IN HERE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: WELL, I THINK WE'RE MAYOR JOSH COHN: RICH ME WHAT RATE RICH SHOULD SPEAK, I'D ASK RICH TO SPEAK AND I WILL SPEAK AS WELL.

RICHARD MECCA, COUNCIL MEMBER: I'LL KEEP IT SHORT, CONSIDERING THE FACT HAS BEEN NO ROADMAP FOR SUCH A SITUATION, I THINK WE ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION.

RICHARD MECCA, COUNCIL MEMBER: IN DOING THINGS DIFFERENTLY OR ANY ACTION WE TAKE THERE IS GOING TO BE A REACTION SOMEONE'S NOT GOING TO LIKE OUR DECISIONS, AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO GET USED TO A CITY COUNCIL.

RICHARD MECCA, COUNCIL MEMBER: MY SEVENTH YEAR HERE. BELIEVE ME, EVERY LAW EVERY MOTION EVERYTHING WE HAVE DONE. THERE'S BEEN CRITICISM AFTER THE FACT. CONSIDERING THAT THIS RICHARD MECCA, COUNCIL MEMBER: HAS GIVEN US NO ROADMAP OF HOW TO DO THIS. I THINK OUR CITY STAFF SHOULD BE APPLAUDED FOR WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO RICHARD MECCA, COUNCIL MEMBER: WE ALREADY HAVE THE STREET CLOTHES. WE ARE ONLY ASKING TO KEEP IT CLOSED ANOTHER SIX OR SEVEN WEEKS, THEN WE CAN HAVE ALL WINTER.

RICHARD MECCA, COUNCIL MEMBER: TO BEAT EACH OTHER UP AND SAY, WHAT SHOULD WE DO NEXT SUMMER, I MYSELF HAVE SOME PROPOSALS, BUT I'M GOING TO END IT THERE. REALLY THE ONLY DECISION NOW IS JUST WE'RE ANY CLOTHES THE STREET. DO WE GO ALL IN FOR ANOTHER SIX OR SEVEN WEEKS, JOSH, I'M DONE. THANK YOU.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN I REMIND PEOPLE OF THE ONE THING THAT WE ARE BOUND BY NEW YOUR STAKES.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: AT THE ALCOHOL BOARD LAW AND THAT WE CAN JUST PLACE RESTAURANT WHEREVER WE WANT TO OPEN THE STREET, WHENEVER WE WANT HOWEVER WE WANT. IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: BEAR BURGER AND RUBIES ARE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. AND IF YOU WOULD HAVE A CAR GOING. I JUST DON'T UNDER AND I JUST THINK FOR SAFETY REASONS, AND THEN OTHER YOU KNOW YOUR STATE LAWS WE CAN'T DO THAT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY POINT OF VIEW ON ON WHAT IS NOT AN EASY TOPIC AND ONE I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT EVERY DAY SINCE IT FIRST BECAME CONTROVERSIAL LIVELIHOODS ARE AT STAKE BUSINESSES ARE AT STAKE RICE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IS AT STAKE. I WANT ALL OUR BUSINESSES TO THRIVE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: NOBODY. CERTAINLY, I AM NOT PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS, THE PANDEMIC PUT US HERE AND I SEE THE REALITIES OF THE PANDEMIC AS DRIVING A DECISION.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: PEOPLE ARE NOT SHOPPING, THE SAME WAY AS OTHERS HAVE SAID THE MONEY FOR IT MAY NOT BE THERE. THE OCCASIONS FOR USE OF NEW THINGS ARE NOT THERE, PEOPLE MAY NOT WANT TO SPEND TIME IN STORES, PARTICULARLY SMALL ONES.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: PEOPLE ARE SIMILARLY LESS INCLINED TO DINE OUT AND A RELUCTANT IF NOT UNWILLING TO DINE IN RESTAURANTS.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: SOME PURCHASE STREET BUSINESSES, TELL ME IT'S THE PLAZA DENTING THEIR BUSINESS. BUT THEN I SPEAK TO BUSINESSES NEARBY TOWNS AND THEY REMAIN IT DEPRESSED LEVELS ON TOTALLY OPEN STREETS DUE TO ONE OR MORE OF THE PANDEMIC FACTORS THEY THINK NOT STREET CONDITION.

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: I CAN'T TELL WHICH OF OUR BUSINESSES ARE MORE OR LESS VULNERABLE TO COVERT CIRCUMSTANCES, EXCEPT I CAN TELL THAT PEOPLE WILL COME TO RESTAURANTS TO EAT OUTSIDE MAYOR JOSH COHN: I KNOW THAT IF WE CUT OUTSIDE TABLES RESTAURANTS WILL SUFFER. BUT I CAN'T TELL IF CUTTING THOSE OUTSIDE TABLES WILL ACTUALLY HURT OR HELP OTHER BUSINESSES.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I KNOW THAT WEATHER WILL INTRUDE ON OUTSIDE DINING, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WILL BE AND THEN RESTAURANTS ARE GOING TO BE AN EXTREME PAIN.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I ALSO BELIEVE, BASED ON THE WAY TO THE MAIL RECEIVED THAT RIGHT RESIDENTS LIKE THE PLAZA AND WILL SUPPORT THE PLAZA AS LONG AS THEY CAN. AND I THINK THEY WOULD MEAN TO SUPPORT BOTH MAYOR JOSH COHN: PLAZA DINING AND PLUS OR RETAIL MAYOR JOSH COHN: SO THOSE ARE THE REASONS THAT I WILL SUPPORT KEEPING THE PLAZA THROUGH NOVEMBER 30TH, SUBJECT TO STAFF DECIDING IF EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES REQUIRE CHANGE SOONER.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I AGREE WITH THE NEED FOR GREATER POLICE PRESENCE ATTENTION TO LITTER. I STILL THINK THAT THE SIGNAGE COULD BE BETTER.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND THAT'S NOT JUST THE DECORATIVE SIGNAGE, THE TRAFFIC CONTROL SIGNAGE. I THINK COULD STILL BEAR IMPROVEMENT DURING THE ADDITIONAL SIX OR SEVEN WEEKS THAT WE WILL HAVE THE PLAZA. IF THE VOTE GOES THAT WAY. SO THAT'S MY TWO OR PERHAPS THREE CENTS.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: JULIE YOU WANTED TO MOVE ON TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND PURCHASE PLAZA THROUGH NOVEMBER.

30 JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: PROVIDING JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: WHAT TWO THINGS TO THIS ONE, PROVIDING DISCRETION TO CITY STAFF FOR EXIGENT PURSE PURPOSES, BUT ALSO BEYOND THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT, TO THE EXTENT JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: OUTDOOR DINING CAN BE PRESERVED IN JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: SOME PROBABLY SMALLER WAY.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: FOR FOR MERCHANTS THAT THE CITY HAS THE DISCRETION TO DO THAT AS WELL. I THINK I DON'T SEE THE REASON TO NECESSARILY TAKE DOWN ROUGH ELLIE'S BACKYARD, SINCE THAT'S NOT INTERFERING WITH TRAFFIC FLOW. SAME WITH RUBY'S SECOND STREET CONCEIVABLY COULD ALSO STAY WHERE IT IS.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: JULIE. I THINK YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COLD WEATHER ACTION PLAN WHICH IS THE NEXT JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S THE NEXT TIME. OKAY. SO THEN I'LL MOVE THAT SEPARATELY, BUT RIGHT NOW I'M JUST MOVING A PURCHASE THROUGH CLOSET THROUGH NOVEMBER 30 MAYOR JOSH COHN: ALL. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AYE. AYE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AYE. NAYS, MAYOR JOSH COHN: ANY DAYS.

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: YES, ONE, SORRY.

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: DAY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OKAY, SO THE THE RESOLUTION CARRIES AND ON TO THE ACTION PLAN. I JUST LIKE I GUESS THERE'S ONE THING THAT I FORGOT TO SAY THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT PEOPLE NOT BEING HEARD UNHAPPY MERCHANTS NOT BEING HEARD. IT'S BEEN STRIKING TO ME THAT MAYOR JOSH COHN: WE'VE HAD TWO PUBLIC COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THERE HAS BEEN ALMOST MAYOR JOSH COHN: NO.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: NEGATIVE MERCHANT PARTICIPATION, THAT IS, THESE ARE OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THIS EVENING. WE DID HAVE ONE MAYOR JOSH COHN: WHAT WAS IT ONE SPEAKER, WE DO. WE DID HAVE ONE MERCHANT SPEAKER AND AND WE DID HAVE ROBIN IVANOVICH AND I'M GLAD THAT THEY BOTH MAYOR JOSH COHN: I'M GLAD THAT THEY BOTH SPOKE, BUT THESE ARE PUBLIC MEETINGS ZOOM IS IS IS WHERE THE PANDEMIC HAS BROUGHT US AND AND I'M I'M SORRY THAT OTHERS HAVE NOT TAKEN GREATER ADVANTAGE OF IT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: WINTER ACTION PLAN. GREAT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: GO AHEAD.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: NO, I JUST SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: WANT TO ADD BECAUSE I WAS THE ONE WHO WHO MENTIONED THAT. SO I DO WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT. I THINK, FIRST OF ALL, AS I HAD MENTIONED, IT IS A SMALLER GROUP OR AT LEAST THE GROUP THAT I HAVE RECEIVED COMMUNICATION FROM IS MUCH SMALLER THAN THE THAN THE GROUP THAT WAS IN SUPPORT.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT ALSO WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE PREFER TO EMAIL. SOMETIMES THEY PREFER TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND AND CALL SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: A COUNCIL PERSON, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WITH WITH COMING TO A PUBLIC SETTING AND AND SPEAKING OUT. SO WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY EARLIER. AND NOW THAT REMINDED ME IS, IS I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THAT

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SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO SAY WHETHER THE PLAZA, YOU KNOW, IS HURTING BUSINESS OR NOT, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE NO NO HISTORY, NO HISTORICAL CONTEXT.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT WHAT WE CAN DO AS A COUNCIL AND AS THE STAFF AND THE CHAMBER AND AS RESIDENTS IS IS BE THERE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND TO CAROLINA'S POINT IS, YOU KNOW, SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: WORKING ON. FOR EXAMPLE, HOW DO YOU TRANSLATE THAT FOOT TRAFFIC INTO RETAIL SALES. SO I WOULD MAKE AN APPEAL TO FIRST OF ALL TO THE TO THOSE SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE CONCERNED, AND WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF THE PLAZA HURTING THEIR BUSINESS, PLEASE. IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE SPEAKING OUT IN PUBLIC, PLEASE CONTACT ME CONTACT WHOMEVER YOU DO FEEL COMFORTABLE SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND WITH SUGGESTIONS OR COMPLAINTS OR JUST RATS. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. WE ARE REPRESENTATIVES. SO WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU AS BEST WE CAN. AND YOU KNOW I THINK THAT'S THAT'S PROBABLY WHY.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW YOU HAVEN'T HEARD FROM SOME OF THEM BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY DO FEEL, AND THEY ARE IN THE MINORITY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OKAY, THANK YOU.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: GREG. THE WINTER ACTION PLAN. SURE.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: SO IF YOU WILL REFER TO YOUR PACKAGE OR THE THE AGENDA THAT IS ONLINE. WE DID DO A ANOTHER REVIEW OF THE DOWNTOWN OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, RECOGNIZING THAT OF COURSE THAT WITH THE COLDER WEATHER, THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: I WILL GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE MEMO THAT LET ME I'LL HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF KIND OF HOW WE COME TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THAT ARE IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WE KNOW THAT FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, THE RESTAURANTS ARE GOING TO REMAIN STEADY STATE ORDER LIMITED INDOOR DINING GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: TO BOTH A 50% CAPACITY AS WELL AS THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE FOR ALL OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH REQUIREMENTS AND THE ADDITIONAL COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING SIX BUT GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WE ALSO KNOW, HAVING BEEN TALKING TO RESTAURANTS THAT GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THEY DO WISH, AS WE TALKED ABOUT TO CONTINUE OUTDOOR DINING, AS LONG AS POSSIBLE, BUT THEY ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY RECOGNIZE THAT IF THEY WANT TO DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THEIR GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: BUILDINGS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BEGIN MAKING MEANINGFUL INVESTMENTS IN BOTH STRUCTURE HEATING, LIGHTING, ETC.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AND THAT THAT COMES AT A COST. IT COMES AT A TIME INVESTMENT. IT ALSO MEANS THAT FROM THE CITY STAFF STANDPOINT, THOSE STRUCTURES ARE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO BOTH BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: FIRE INSPECTION AND SAFETY INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS, ALL OF WHICH ARE GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO RAMP UP. WE ALSO FULLY EXPECT THAT WITH THE COLDER WEATHER THAT THE PLAZA FEEL EVEN IF BEFORE DYING INTENSE IS GOING TO FEEL VERY, VERY DIFFERENT.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: YOU KNOW AS THE WEATHER GETS COLD AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE MORE FOCUSED ON GETTING FROM LOCATION TO LOCATION, YOU KNOW, AS IT'S RAINING OR SNOWING OR SLEEP OR OR WHATEVER AND GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WE ALSO KNOW THAT THIS HAPPENED VERY EARLY LAST YEAR THAT AS SOON AS THE WEATHER TURNS THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE PROVISIONS.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: OR MAINTAINING A THROWAWAY AND DOWNTOWN AND OTHER WORDS THE NEXT SNOWSTORM REACT TO HAVE SOMEPLACE TO PUT THE SNOW.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AND THE PRESENCE OF OUTDOOR DINING DOES NOT LEND ITSELF TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, SO IT DOES PRESENTED BY THE PUBLIC SAFETY IS A PUBLIC AS WELL AS TO BE MADE A DECISION. SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU'LL, YOU'LL FIND THAT PACKET GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: INCLUDES INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING THAT THE COUNCIL SHIPPING CETERA FINAL END DATE FOR THE CURRENT ARRANGEMENT WHICH YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY DONE A LOT OF PRIOR ACTION.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THE EXTENSION OF THAT DATE SHUTTLE ALLOW FOR THE TERMINATION WHICH YOU DID. SO I'M GOING TO SORRY BE REDUNDANT ON THE PAST THOSE GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THE WINNER SCENARIO THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS SIMILAR TO THE ORIGINAL ACTION THAT YOU TAKE IT THAT YOU TOOK RATHER WHICH WILL BE ABLE TO CITY STAFF.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: TO EXPEDITE THE PERMITTING PROCESS AS WELL AS STRUCTURE INSPECTIONS AND FIRE CODE AND TERMINATIONS THAT DISCRETION TO THE EXTENT OF MODIFYING PERMITS AND INSPECTION FEES AND CHARGES.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AND THE RECOMMENDED PLAN IS PROVIDED IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE, INCLUDING A DETAIL FOR EACH RESTAURANT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO OPEN PURCHASE STREET BEGINNING

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GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AT BASED ON YOUR CURRENT OUT YOUR ACTION ON DECEMBER ONE, AND THEN ONCE WE OPEN PURCHASE STRAIGHT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA WILL, IN LARGE PART, RETURN TO THE REGULAR TRAFFIC PATTERN WITH JUST A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: NUMBER ONE ISN'T SOME OF THE STREET PARKING BASED ON THIS PLAN WOULD BE LOST ON PURCHASE STREET.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THERE ARE A FEW RESTAURANTS THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO MOVE OFF THE STREET INTO WE'RE PARKING LOTS, OR OTHER LOCATIONS.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: I'M TALKING ABOUT MILLION SOCIAL BEAR BURGER AND OR FOR THOSE WE WOULD PROPOSE TO ALLOW THEM IF THEY SO CHOOSE TO ERECTED A TENT OR MORE WINTERIZED STRUCTURE ON CITY PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE SIDEWALK.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AND THAT, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A BEST FRIEND PATHWAY, THE CITY WOULD CONSTRUCT A TEMPORARY WALKWAY THAT GOES AROUND THE RESTAURANT ITSELF.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: BUT WOULD TAKE UP THE PARK IN THE PARKING SPACE. THAT WOULD BE A JASON FOR THAT.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THIS WOULD BE BOTH FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, IT WOULD NOT, IT WOULDN'T BE AT THE SAME GRAINS EXISTING SIDEWALK. SO THEREFORE, WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH RANTS AND LIKE GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THAT WOULD BE ONE CHANGE IN THOSE THREE LOCATIONS. THE OTHER CHANGE WOULD BE WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT SECOND STREETS GOT IT WOULD REMAIN CLOSED. THAT'S THE STREET THAT RUNS DOWN ALONG THE SIDE OF WRITING REAL GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THE RIGHT REAL IS GOING TO BE YOU CONTINUING TO USE IT. PRIVATE LOT WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET ON SECOND STREET.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: BUT THAT KEEPING THAT CLOSED WOULDN'T BE ALLOWING THERE FOR GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: USERS OF THE RESTAURANT, AS WELL AS SERVICE PERSONNEL TO MOVE BACK AND FORTH WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT TRAFFIC, THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THAT GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: TOWN DOC MAY CHOOSE TO WANT TO USE PART OF THAT AS WELL. BUT OUR VIEW IS THAT, GIVEN WHAT IS CURRENTLY THE TRAFFIC AND THE TRY AND TRAIN STATION AND JUST TRAFFIC FLOWS GENERALLY LOSING SECOND STREET IS FOR TRAFFIC IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT THINGS AT ALL.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THERE MAY BE SOME MINOR ADJUSTMENTS IN THE REAR PARKING LOTS, AS WE MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR DUMPSTERS. THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE BACK.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: DO HAVE REFUSE PICKUP PICKUP BACK THERE. AND SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM AND THERE MAY BE AS I SAID SOME ACCOMMODATIONS FOR DUMPSTERS DURING, DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WE FURTHER RECOMMEND THAT THE WINTER SETUP SHOULD HAVE AN END DATE.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: IN THE SPRING, I PUT INTO THE MEMO APRIL ONE, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SUBJECT TO EXTENSION BY THE COUNCIL, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAKE THESE WINTERIZED INVESTMENTS THAT THEY HAVE AT LEAST SOME CERTAINTY AS TO, YOU KNOW, TO A LONG ENOUGH END DATE AND THEY CAN MAKE A DECISION WHETHER THEY WANT TO DO THAT OR NOT.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: LAST VERY MINOR THING IS THAT THERE. WE MAY BE LOSING SOME PARKING ACCOMMODATIONS FOR TENANTS AND BUILDINGS AND CERTAIN PRIVATE LOTS GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AND THEN I WOULD ASK THIS PART OF THIS ACTION THAT YOU ALLOW STAFF TO MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS IN THE CITY PARKING LOTS. FOR THOSE WHO OTHERWISE WOULDN'T BE LOSING PARK IN PRIVATE LOCATIONS. AND AGAIN, THAT WOULD, I THINK THERE'S ONLY GOING TO BE A HANDFUL, BUT WE DO WANT TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: GREGOR, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU WITH RESPECT TO THE LET'S CALL THEM LITTLE BOARDWALKS THAT MIGHT BE CREATED IN THE CASE OF A FEW OF THE MAYOR JOSH COHN: RESTAURANTS THAT WOULD HAVE SIDEWALK PRESENCES, HOW ARE WE GOING TO KEEP THOSE POWER, WHO WILL KEEP THOSE SAFE IN WINTER WEATHER. AND ALSO, ARE WE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE ON THOSE WALKWAYS BEING MAYOR JOSH COHN: ESSENTIALLY RIGHT UP AGAINST THE TRAFFIC WHICH WILL BE FULL BORE ON PURCHASE STREET. ESSENTIALLY, THEY WILL BE IN THE SAME POSITION THEY WOULD BE WHERE THEY GETTING INTO HER OUT OF A CAR.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WELL, YOU MIGHT JOSH, I GUESS THE FIRST QUESTION. FIRST IS THAT AND TALKING TO THE CITY IS WORKING WITH THE CITY ENGINEER ON THIS. THE CITY WOULD DESIGN.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THOSE RAMPS, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, WE WILL, OR THOSE WALKWAYS, WE WILL BE CONTRACTED FOR THOSE SPEC CONSTRUCTION TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, THERE WOULDN'T BE HANDRAILS GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AND IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE, THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE SIDEWALKS WOULDN'T BE THE SAME AS THE MAINTENANCE OF ALL SIDEWALKS AND THAT IS, IT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OF THE BUILDING OWNER GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: LANDLORD OR BE AT THE TENANT, AS THE CASE MAY BE, TO TAKE CARE OF SNOW, SNOW OR SLEEP REMOVAL, BUT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, ENFORCE THAT THE SAME MANNER THAT WE DO FOR ALL THE SIDEWALKS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: YOUR POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WALKING NEXT TO THE ROAD.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: FRANKLY, IT IS, AS YOU POINT OUT, THEY WERE GOING TO BE ON THE SAME GRADE AS THE EXISTING SIDEWALKS, THEY WILL HAVE RAILS AROUND THEM.

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GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: SO IT'S NOT JUST SIMPLY GOING TO BE EXTENSIONS INTO THE STREET. SO OBVIOUSLY, SAFETY IS A OF THE MOST CONCERN TO US, BUT IT IS NO GREATER EXPOSURE THAN WHAT IT IS. IF YOU'RE GETTING INTO YOUR CAR. IN FACT I WOULD ARGUE PUBLIC LESS BECAUSE OF THAT ELEVATION SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND IS THERE ROOM FOR TWO PEOPLE TO PASS EACH OTHER. I MEAN, WILL IT BE WIDE ENOUGH GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: YES. YEAH, YEAH, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE A YOU KNOW THAT FROM A, FROM A COACH STANDPOINT, THEIR CHOIR WITH THE SIDEWALK, WHICH IS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO TAKE THOSE PARKING SPACES.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: TO GIVE US ENOUGH WITH GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: YOU KNOW, FOR A FOR AN APPROPRIATE SIDEWALK DESIGN.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: I DON'T WORK WENT INTO THIS. THANK YOU.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OTHER QUESTIONS FOR GREG ON ON THE ON PLAN.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: MAY HAVE A MOTION.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: SECOND, MAYOR JOSH COHN: ALL IN FAVOR.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: AYE. AYE.

I MAYOR JOSH COHN: SAID, EVERYBODY WELL EYES.

PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: NO, I'M A MAN. I'M IN THERE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OK, SO THE MOTION CARRIES.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: WE CAN MOVE ALONG IN OUR AGENDA.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THE NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION OF LEAF BLOWER STATUS AND I'M KIND OF MAYOR JOSH COHN: SPRINGING THIS ON ON PEOPLE AS REALLY AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THE REACTIONS. I GOT TO MY EXTENSION BY EMERGENCY ORDER OF THE EXISTING LEAF BLOWER BAND. AND SO I GOT SOME EMAILS SAYING. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. AND I DID THAT, OF COURSE, IN RECOGNITION OF THE FACT THAT PEOPLE MAYOR JOSH COHN: ARE WORKING AT HOME. STILL, AND THERE'S SCHOOLING GOING ON AT HOME AND THE JUST THE SOUND IS AN ISSUE, BUT SOME OF THE REACTION THAT I GOT WAS ALONG THE LINES OF, WELL, THE LEAF BLOWER LAWS VERY POORLY ENFORCED AND WHY BOTHER IF KRISTEN WILSON: MR. SORRY. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I BELIEVE THE FINANCIAL POSITION OF THE CITY WAS UP. NEXT ON THE AGENDA. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU INTENDED TO KRISTEN WILSON: GO OUT OF ORDER.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. NO, MY AGENDA IS ALL MARKED UP MAYOR JOSH COHN: FROM DRAFT STAGE AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. BUT HOW ABOUT THIS, THIS WILL ONLY TAKE A SECOND. SO LET ME GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY, SINCE I'VE STARTED IT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND THEN WE WILL GO TO THE FINANCIAL POSITION. SO I JUST WANTED TO RECAP, WE ARE WE HAVE BEEN ON THE LEAF BLOWER LAW WITH THE THOUGHT THAT IT IT NEEDS MORE ATTENTION.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: BUT IN TALKING ABOUT IT WITH GREG ABOUT THE NEED FOR MORE ATTENTION AND PERHAPS STAFF ATTENTION TO ASPECTS OF IT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: HE IS MENTIONED TO ME AT AS HE HAS IN A NUMBER OF CONTEXTS THAT WITH THE WEIGHT OF ALL THE COVEN MAYOR JOSH COHN: MATERIAL THAT THE STAFF HAS HAD TO GO THROUGH AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE IN BUDGET SEASON WE WE NEED, WE NEED TO WAIT ON SOME THINGS FOR THE NEW YEAR. SO MAYOR JOSH COHN: I JUST WANT TO MENTION WE WE HAVE HEARD AS A COUNCIL AND HAVE CONSIDERED THE NOISE POLLUTION ASPECTS, AIR POLLUTION AND SOIL STRIPPING ASPECTS.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OF LEAF BLOWING. WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT FROM MANY IN INCLUDING THIS SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE WE LEARNED ABOUT ELECTRIC LEAF BLOWERS. AND IN, IN FACT, MY LANDSCAPER MAYOR JOSH COHN: WHO IS BLOWS LEAVES ON OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES KICKED IN HIS CATALOGS ON ELECTRIC LEAF BLOWERS WHICH WE PASSED ALONG TO SUSTAINABILITY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: BUT ISSUES REMAIN EVEN WITH THAT WE DID AS A COUNCIL HAVE SOMEONE COME IN. SOME OF US MAY RECALL, WHO PLAYED A RECORDING OF ELECTRIC LEAF BLOWERS AND SAID, WELL, THIS IS AS BAD. IF NOT, IF NOT WORSE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: WE'VE ALSO LEARNED ABOUT MULCHING MOWERS AND MULCHING MOWERS, OF COURSE CAN GO RIGHT OVER LEAVES ON GRASS AND AND TURN THOSE LEAVES INTO ESSENTIALLY USEFUL FERTILIZER FOR LAWNS AND MAYOR JOSH COHN: THE LEAVES DON'T NEED TO BE BLOWN OR COLLECT, COLLECT IT AND IN THIS LAST DISCUSSION I WAS REMINDED BY THE POLICE ACTUALLY HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: HAVING LANDSCAPE OR PERMITS, WHICH SOME JURISDICTIONS DO AND THEN THE LANDSCAPERS THAT GET PERMITS AND CAN WORK IN THE JURISDICTION.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: KNOW WHAT THE LAW IS. AND UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR PERMIT MAY BE IN JEOPARDY IF IN FACT THEY DON'T ADHERE TO THE LAW SO MAYOR JOSH COHN: WE WILL BE LOOKING AT PERMITTING, WE CAN LOOK AT ANY OF THE OTHER ASPECTS OF LEAF BLOWING WHEN WHEN WHEN WE GET THROUGH BUDGET SEASON, BUT ONE THING THAT I'D LIKE EVERYBODY WHO'S LISTENING TO REMEMBER IS THAT MAYOR JOSH COHN: OUR LANDSCAPERS MAYOR JOSH COHN: BLOWIN LEAF BLOWERS SUMMER IF WE WOULD LET THEM AND AND AND FALL BECAUSE THEY THINK WE WANT THEM TO MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND MAYOR JOSH COHN: CERTAINLY, I'VE HAD LANDSCAPERS, TELL ME IF IF THEY DON'T BLOW THE PROPER DATE IF THEY WERE TO LEAVE IT WITHOUT EITHER BLOWING IT OR BROOMING IT OR RAKING IT MAYOR JOSH COHN: THAT WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE TO THEIR CUSTOMERS AND THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE TIME THEIR ECONOMIES ARE BUILT AROUND BEING ABLE TO BLOW THE LEADS TO ACHIEVE THAT CONDITION.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: SO IT'S GOOD, IT'S GOOD. IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO IT, IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO US THIS. THE POPULATION OF THE CITY OF RIALTO TIMIDLY TO MAKE THIS WORK.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I TRUST, I'LL HAVE THE HELP OF SUSTAINABILITY IN THIS EFFORT. I KNOW I WILL. AND, AND EVERYONE ON THE COUNCIL IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ADD BEFORE WE JUMP TO WHERE WE SHOULD BE ON THE CITY FINANCIAL POSITION. PLEASE GO AHEAD.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: JUST WANT TO ADD TWO THINGS ABOUT GETTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT PARTICULARLY NOW WITH THE EXTENSION BECAUSE I DID RECEIVE A COUPLE OF EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS SAYING OFF THE LEAF, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPERS DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THERE'S AN EXTENSION.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND SO I DID WANT TO PASS ALONG SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: I YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND I THINK THE THE EXTENSION ENDS NEXT WEEK, BUT JUST FOR FOR FUTURE PONDERING AND THOUGHT IS SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: ACTUALLY SHE'S A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER SHE SUGGESTED SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: EVEN MAYBE SOME SMALL DEEP, DEEP CALLS WITH RULES THAT YOU COULD AFFECT TO THE LEAF BLOWERS. AND THEN HER OTHER SUGGESTION WAS, IF THERE ARE GAS STATIONS THAT THE LANDSCAPERS USE PERHAPS YOU KNOW YOU COULD PUT A YOU KNOW A NOTICE OF THE THE LEAF BLOWER LAW AND ANY EXTENSIONS SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY PART OF IT IS IT IS THAT A LOT OF THE LANDSCAPERS DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS EXTENSION AND THE I KNOW THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE HAS BEEN SENDING OUT SOME ALERTS AND NOTICES.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I THINK GREG HAD PUT SOMETHING UP ON THE WEBSITE. SO THANK YOU. SO I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, AS IF ANYBODY'S LISTENING AND YOUR LANDSCAPERS ARE STILL USING LEAF BLOWERS RIGHT NOW IS TO GO OUT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THANK YOU.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: GREG.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND JOE JOE'S WITH US. YEP. ALRIGHT.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: I WILL LET ME GIVE YOU A BRIEF INTRODUCTION OF THIS AND THEN I'LL I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO TO GO THROUGH THE THE PARTICULARS. AND AGAIN, WE'VE WE'VE UPDATED THE NUMBERS AND THE GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THAT WERE PROVIDED IN THE AMENDED AGENDA PACKAGE WHEN THEY WENT OUT YESTERDAY COUNCIL ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THOSE SEPARATELY AS AN EMAIL AS WELL.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: I SAY MONDAY NIGHT YESTERDAY.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: SO AS AN INTRODUCTION IN A SHORTLY AFTER WE BEGAN TO UNDERSTAND THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THE PANDEMIC ON THE CITY'S FINANCIALS IN LATE MARCH.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: JOE BEGAN TO RE EXAMINE THE 2020 BUDGET IN LIGHT OF POTENTIAL LOSS REVENUES INCREASED EXPENSES.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AT THE APRIL 15 COUNCIL MEETING WE PRESENTED THE SUMMARY OF THE NON PROPERTY TAX REVENUES AT RISK. OUR CONCERN OF THE TIME THAT WAS BY IT WAS THAT BY THE TIME WE REALIZE THE FULL IMPACT OF IS GOING TO BE TOO LATE TO TAKE REMEDIAL ACTION.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AND ON THE JUNE 10 AGENDA, THE COUNCIL OF THE CASTLE JOE PRESENTED A FULL DESCRIPTION OF BOTH THE REVENUES OR RISK AS WELL AS THE PROJECTED EXPENSE INCREASE GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WE, AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE TIME OUR CHALLENGE WAS THE LACK OF AVAILABLE INFORMATION AND NO PRECEDENTS FOR WHAT WE WERE ARE AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AT THE GYM MEETING I RECOMMENDED THE LANE $800,000 OF SPENDING ON RESURFACING OF THE TOTAL 1.8 MILLION THAT WAS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. I ALSO SUSPENDED FILLING ALL OPEN POSITIONS AS WELL AS HALTING ANY POSITIONS CREATED BY RESIGNATIONS RETIREMENTS ETC.

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GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: I FURTHER REQUESTED THAT ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HOLD ANY PURCHASES OF EQUIPMENT AND HOLIDAY CONSULTANT EXPENDITURES, TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, WHICH BASICALLY IS THE VAST MAJORITY GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: OVER THE LAST MONTH AS WE BEGAN TO PAIR THE 2021 BUDGET. WE'VE ALSO BEGUN TO DRILL DOWN ON THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR THAT'S DONE IN NORMAL COURSE.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: HOWEVER, IT'S PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT, THIS YEAR, ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE TO HOLD BACK SOME SPENDING THIS YEAR I AM SOMEWHAT PLEASED UPDATE YOU WITH THE CURRENT PROJECTIONS GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AND HAVE THE DETERMINATION OF CERTAIN SPENDING FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: I'M JUST GOING TO WALK THROUGH THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS AND HOW WE GOT TO OUR CONCLUSION. BUT LET ME JUST GIVE YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT WILL COME BACK TO GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: SOME OF THESE DETERMINATIONS. NUMBER ONE IS WESTCHESTER COUNTY IS ONLY ONE OF A HANDFUL AND I BELIEVE THE NUMBERS FOUR COUNTIES IN THE ENTIRE STATE.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THAT HAS EXPERIENCED FLAT TO EVEN SLIGHTLY HIGHER TAX COLLECT SALES TAX COLLECTIONS FOR THIS YEAR. SO WE ARE CLEARLY IN VERY FORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCES.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: BOTH BUILDING PERMITS AND MORTGAGE TAX REVENUES ARE SPENDING MORE POSITIVE THAN WHAT WE SAW IN THE EARLY SPRING, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A HUGE RAMP UP IN THE GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AFTERMATH OF THE OF THE SUSPENSION OF ACTIVITY, BUT THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME SOME POSITIVE IMPACTS BECAUSE OF MORTGAGE REFINANCES GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: OUR HOLD ON FILLING POSITIONS ALONG WITH THE REDUCTION IN BOTH EMPLOYEE AND RETIREE HEALTH INSURANCE HAS RESULTED IN VERY SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS THIS YEAR.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THE OUR ANNUALLY, AS YOU PROBABLY ARE AWARE, WE HAVE CONTINGENCIES CONTINGENCY MONIES THAT HAVE BEEN USED IN YEARS PAST WITH EXTRAORDINARY SNOWBALLS STORMS. GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: LEGAL EXPENSES IN THE LIGHT, AND FORTUNATELY FOR US THIS YEAR, ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE SOME SCORING RELATED EXPENSES AND COVEN RELATED EXPENSES ARE OUR CONTINGENCY MONIES ARE RELATIVELY UNTOUCHED FROM NORMAL YEARS GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WE'VE ALSO IN RECENT DAYS IN CONVERSATION WITH LIGHTS ON PART GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: ARE ARE ARE PLEASED TO THAT THEIR OPERATIONS AT BORN OUT TO BE MORE POSITIVE THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROJECTED OR POSSIBLE, I SHOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE SPRING AND EARLY SUMMER.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AND THEN FINALLY, IN THE SPEAKS TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT BELT TIGHTENING ACROSS ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS IN SPITE OF THE STORMS INSPIRED PROBING GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: AND AND IT REALLY A CONSCIOUS APPROACH TO, YOU KNOW, THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS. SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT EVERYTHING IS WINE AND ROSES, BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY IN A BETTER POSITION THAN WHAT WE COULD HAVE BEEN OR WHAT WAS PROJECTED AND POSSIBLE BACK IN JUNE, SO GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: JOE JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: THANK YOU GREG, THANKS EVERYONE.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: AS UPS, KIND OF GOING TO GO OVER THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE OUR LAST PROJECTION, YOU KNOW, JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: I WISH I HAD THIS PATIENCE WITH CERTAIN THINGS IN MY PERSONAL LIFE THAT I DO WITH THIS PROCESS, BUT THE BUDGET PROCESS IS A LENGTHY PROCESS AND WE REALLY DON'T GET OUR JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: ACTUAL NUMBERS. A REALLY FIRM DATA INTO WE GO THROUGH THIS ENTIRE BUDGET PROJECTION SEASON. SO WE HAVE BEEN PATIENT JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: THE NUMBERS ARE. I FEEL LIKE PRETTY SOLID. NOW, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN PROJECT FOR THE END OF THE YEAR. OUR, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY OUR OTHER THAN JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: SALES TAX ON THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, OUR PROJECTIONS FOR REVENUES HAVE BEEN PRETTY CLOSE TO SPOT ON ALL YEAR. SO THERE'S NO SURPRISES REALLY ON THE REVENUE SIDE.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: SALES TAX CONTINUES TO TREND UP AFTER YOU KNOW THE ROUGH MONTH OF APRIL AND MAY. AS GREG SAID WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW YOU KNOW COUNTIES IN THE STATE WHERE WE ACTUALLY ARE SEEING AN INCREASE EXCELLENT SALES TAX COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: WITH THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL PRETTY UP CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THAT, YOU KNOW, BARRING ANOTHER SHUTDOWN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN HIT OUR PROJECTED NUMBER OF $3 MILLION. WE ARE ERRING ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION, JUST TO MAKE SURE. SO OUR PROJECTION RIGHT NOW IS 2.8 MILLION JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN JUST CONSTANTLY KIND OF REVIEW SOME OF THESE NUMBERS. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: WE GO.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: OKAY. SO AS I SAID, THE ONLY NUMBER HAS REALLY CHANGED SINCE OUR LAST CONVERSATION, A MONTH AGO IS THE SALES TAX, AND WE'VE INCREASED IT FROM 2.7 MILLION TO 2.8 MILLION JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: MORTGAGE TAX IS TRENDING. WE HAVE ONE MORE MONTH TO GO IN TERMS OF THE CALENDAR FOR THE FISCAL YEAR FOR MORTGAGE TAX AND WE ARE ONLINE DAY AT THE 1.6 MILLION JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: ONE, I AM TO NOTE STATE AID REVENUE SHARING. I THINK SINCE PRETTY MUCH JUNE. WE'VE BEEN PROJECTING A 20% DECREASE JUST BASED ON SOME

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JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: CONFERENCES CONFERENCE CALLS AT THE GOVERNOR HAD, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD POSSIBLY BE SOME SCALING BACK WITH YOU'VE RECEIVED PROFIT OFFICIAL WORD NOW FROM THE STATE THAT JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: THE 20% OF OUR STATE AID IS BEING WITHHELD. NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO RECEIVE THAT 20% SO JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: OUR NUMBER OF 960 6000 AND CHANGE HAS BEEN IT'S BEEN WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG, WE CAN EXPECT THAT FOR THIS YEAR AND FOR THE 2021 BUDGET, THEY'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT KEEPING THE NUMBER AT 20% OR LESS OR MORE OF A DECREASE TO US.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REVENUES. I CAN TAKE THEM NOW.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: OKAY, SO WE MOVED DOWN TO EXPENDITURES AGAIN EXPENDITURES, WE REALLY GET A BETTER FEEL WHEN DEPARTMENTS ENTER THE BUDGET, OUR PAYROLL.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: DEPARTMENT GOES THROUGH LINE BY LINE CALL CENTER BY CALL CENTER EACH DEPARTMENT AND WE KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: YEAR, TO DATE, AND THEN WE PROJECT OUT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, YOU KNOW, WE START THIS PROCESS IN AUGUST AND IT KIND OF GOES THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: SO WE FINALLY GET OUR NUMBERS RETIREMENT NUMBERS COME IN AT THAT POINT TWO. SO YOU'LL GET A CLEARER PICTURE AT THIS POINT OF THE YEAR. UM, JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: SO I'LL START WITH THE FIRE OVERTIME EXPENSE THE PROJECTION. WE HAD BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG WAS ABOUT $850,000 OF OVERTIME BASED ON THESE LAST PROJECTIONS. WE'VE ALSO LOST ADDITIONAL CAREER FIREFIGHTER SO THAT NUMBER OF OVERTIME HAS ACTUALLY INCREASED JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: AGAIN WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, AN ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTER IS GOING TO BE HIGHER WITHIN THE COMING WEEKS. AND THAT'S IT. HOPEFULLY KIND OF EASE SOME OF THIS OVERTIME EXPENSE. WE HAVE INCREASED THE PROJECTION OF OVERTIME.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: SO WE DID WE DID JUST INTERRUPT FOR A SECOND. WE DID HAVE A RETIREMENT.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WITHIN THE LAST MONTH WE DID ACTUALLY GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: NOT TAKE WE WERE FORTUNATE TO HAVE A TRANSFER THAT STARTED TODAY. SO DOES NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE ACADEMY. SO AT LEAST YOU KNOW WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, I, I'M HAPPY THAT WE KNOW ARE DOWN ANOTHER FIREFIGHTER. BUT WE DID GET ONE BACK IN PLACE TODAY. SO, OKAY.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: POLICE OVERTIME AS THE POLICE COUNTENANCE SHARPENED HIS PENCIL DURING HIS PROJECTION. WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN WILL SEE ADDITIONAL RECOUPMENT OF THAT'S A WORD.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: OF OVERTIME EXPENSE THROUGH THE UTILITY COMPANIES. WE WENT FROM $130,000 WE'VE ADJUSTED IT DOWN TO $130,000 NET COST TO A CITY ON THE OVERTIME SO I WHICH IS $275,000 LESS THAN WE HAD BUDGETED FOR JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: COLIN RELATED EXPENDITURES. IF WE HAVEN'T FOLLOWED IT. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THE FILING OF THE PAPERWORK, WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: WITH OUR REP FROM FEMA IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS JUST TO KIND OF FINALIZE EVERYTHING WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $52,000 BEING SUBMITTED FOR REIMBURSEMENT AND THAT RANGES FROM RESPIRATORS TO GLOVES TO MASKS.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: WE ACTUALLY PURCHASED A MACHINE TO CREATE SENT A SANITIZED JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: SANITIZING ONE. YEAH, WELL, AND WE'RE RENTING OUT ON A MONTHLY BASIS, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT FEMALE SEEMS TO BE ALLOWING ANYTHING WE'VE PURCHASED OUTRIGHT, IT SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE GOING FORWARD.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: BUT IN TERMS OF RENTING THINGS. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE MORE ACCEPTING OF THINGS LIKE THAT.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: AS GREG MENTIONED ON THE RIGHT TOWN PARK. WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH RIGHT TOWN PARK. THE OTHER DAY JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: YOU KNOW RESULTS FOR THEM AS WELL AS THE CITY HAVE BEEN BETTER. SO IN OUR INITIAL PROJECTIONS. WE ASSUME THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, HAPPY TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WERE ABLE TO LOWER OUR OVERALL LOSS FROM 250,000 TO POSSIBLY ONLY $100,000 JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: ANOTHER ITEM TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE RIGHT WRECK.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: WE HAD BEEN PROJECTING AN ADDITIONAL LOSS TO THE CITY OF ABOUT $180,000 AND JUST BASICALLY WELL WE'VE JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: WITH THIS CANCELLATION OF SUMMER CAMP. WE LOST OUT ON OUR BIGGEST REVENUE SOURCE AT THE REC DEPARTMENT, BUT WE ALSO REALIZE ALL THE SAVINGS THAT WENT ALONG WITH THAT.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: AND AS WE WENT THROUGH THE SUMMER, WE REALIZED THAT THERE WERE ACTUALLY MORE SAVINGS THAN WE INITIALLY THOUGHT. AND THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WERE SHUT DOWN AS WELL. DO THE PANDEMIC. SO THERE WAS SAVINGS THERE.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: THERE'S NEW PROGRAMS AT THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT PICKED UP IN THE SUMMER AND PLAN FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR THAT RESULTED IN A PROJECTED LOW AND THEN KIND OF KNOCKED OUR LAST DOWN TO $104,000 AS OPPOSED TO THE HUNDRED 80 THAT WE SAID ORIGINALLY JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: ONE NUMBER THAT WE KIND OF FOCUSED ON JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME WAS THE HEALTH INSURANCE AND WORKERS COMP ACT AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AS GREG MENTIONED EARLIER WITH THE HIRING FREEZE THAT BEGAN, I BELIEVE IN MAY.

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JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL RETIREMENTS COUPLE OF RESIGNATIONS AND SOME OF THE OUR INITIAL PROJECTIONS ON THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS WERE THROUGH A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: AT THIS POINT, SOME OF THESE HIRINGS THAT WE SAID MAY HAVE HAPPENED IN SEPTEMBER MIGHT NOT HAPPEN NOW UNTIL NOVEMBER. SO THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL SAVINGS THERE AS WELL.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: ON THE RETIREE HEALTH INSURANCE SIDE, AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROJECTIONS, EVEN WITH ADDITIONAL RETIREES. WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: SAVINGS OF ABOUT $250,000 AND THAT'S A COMBINATION. WELL, ACTUALLY, NOT COMBINATION IS BASICALLY THE RATES EITHER WERE FLAT OR ACTUALLY DECREASED IN SOME CASES THE MEDICARE RATES AND VERSUS THE UNDER 65 RATES ALSO DECREASED.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: ONE THING TO MENTION IS CONTINGENCY. WE WERE KIND OF HESITANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE EARLIER ON. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE WOULD BE WITH CONTINGENCY AS GREG MENTIONED JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS I'VE BEEN HERE. IT'S BEEN EITHER LEGAL EXPENDITURES, OR IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, SEVERE SNOW OR EVEN LIKE NATURAL DISASTERS, WHERE WE HAD A LOT OF EXPENSES THAT WOULDN'T BE REIMBURSED.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE AFTER SPEAKING THE CORPORATION COUNSEL ON THE LAW SIDE. AND OBVIOUSLY, WITH ALL FOUR UNION CONTRACTS BEING SETTLED.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: THERE ISN'T AS MUCH LABOR ATTORNEY COSTS AS WELL IN THAT SITUATION. SO WE, WE ARE PRETTY OPTIMISTIC THAT OUR HEALTH, AND I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. HEALTH INSURANCE LAW DEPARTMENT AND A HR LEGAL BILLS WILL NOT EXCEED THEIR BUDGETS.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: SO AT THAT POINT, BASED ON THE NUMBERS HERE IN TERMS OF EXPENDITURES AND OUR LOSS AND REVENUES ABOVE, WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY A SURPLUS. AND AGAIN, MOSTLY. THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE VACANT POSITIONS BEING NOT FILLED WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT A 640 $4,000 SURPLUS ON THE ITEMS. JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: OKAY.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: LAST PAGE WAS WE'VE KIND OF LOOKING AT ALL ALONG. GREG WILL PROBABLY TOUCH ON THIS A LITTLE BIT AS WELL. THESE ARE THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE HAD SUGGESTED, PERHAPS YOU KNOW DEFERRING OR JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: ELIMINATING ALL TOGETHER. AT THIS POINT, BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A SURPLUS. A LOT OF THESE THESE PROJECTS CAN BECOME YOU KNOW AN OPTION FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. AND AGAIN, AS I'VE BEEN SAYING SINCE MAY.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING US FROM PUTTING THIS MONEY ASIDE AT THE END OF THE YEAR, IF WE DECIDE WE DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN WE THOUGHT.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: CERTAIN PROJECTS WE CAN MAKE A PRIORITY OTHER PRODUCTS THAT WE MAY SEE TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR AND SAY, HEY, WE HAD A COUPLE OF BUCKS LEFT. MAYBE WE WANT TO DO THIS ONE CONSULTANT PROJECT OR WE WANTED TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR OUR CITY BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: AGAIN, JUST TO KNOW THE BIG SWING AND WHY WE WERE HAVING SUCH A. NOW WE HAVE A SURPLUS MAY ASK VERSUS WHY WE GET IN JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: WE WERE INCLUDING THOSE VACANT POSITIONS AS POTENTIAL EXPENSE REDUCTIONS WHEN ALL ALONG. THEY WERE ACTUAL EXPENSE REDUCTIONS, BECAUSE AS THE YEAR WENT ON AND THESE POSITIONS WERE NOT FILLED JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: SITTING WAS REALIZING SAVINGS WE HAD THEM GROUPS DOWN HERE BELOW AS OPPOSED TO UP ABOVE WITH OTHER EXPENDITURES JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: AND KICK IT OVER TO GREG IF HE HAS ANY COMMENTS.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: SURE. SO I GUESS A COUPLE OF COUPLE OF TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: NUMBER ONE IS, OF ALL THE AGGRESSIVE APPROACH THAT THE CITY DID TAKE EARLY IN THE YEAR WHEN WE HAD SO MANY UNKNOWNS HAS PUT US IN A GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: VERY, VERY GOOD POSITION AS WE GO INTO THE FOURTH QUARTER. I MEAN, WE WERE, WE STILL HAVE SOME BUMPY ROAD. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE YEARS THAT HAVE PLAYED OUT HOW IT'S GOING TO PLAY OUT. BUT WE'RE IN A VERY, VERY GOOD POSITION, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS. THE CAUTIONARY NEWS IS THAT AS WE LOOK TO 2021 AND THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL OBVIOUSLY BE SAYING IN ABOUT A MONTH FROM NOW.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THE 2021 BUDGET IS GOING TO BE CHALLENGED ON A LOT OF LEVELS AS JOE MENTIONED, THE STATE HAS ALREADY SIGNAL TO US THAT WE CAN EXPECT A REDUCTION OF 20% OR MAYBE MORE.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: IN THEIR STATE AID, WHICH IS A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS. WE ALSO KNOW THAT OUR THAT THERE'S CERTAIN EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT EXPENSES THAT ARE UP, JOE, I BELIEVE, BETWEEN 10 15% YEAR OVER YEAR.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: CORRECT THE RETIREMENT NEW YORK STATE RETIREMENT THEIR RATES HAVE INCREASED BY THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THOSE RATES FROM THEM. RIGHT.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: SO, GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: I GUESS I GUESS MY, MY POINT IS, IS THIS AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE'RE ALL SET. AND LET'S GO AHEAD WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE PLANNED.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: IT'S MY BELIEF THAT THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO SPEND FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WE ARE HOLDING SOME POSITIONS THAT AND BANK, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME VERY CRITICAL POSITIONS, BOTH IN PUBLIC SAFETY, AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THAT I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN HOLD ANY LONGER AS IT RELATES TO THE RESURFACING PLAN IS WE ALL DISCUSS BACK IN THE SPRING.

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GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THE ORIGINAL BUDGET PROVIDED FOR $1.8 MILLION PER STREET RESURFACING WE I RECOMMEND AND FOLDING 800,000 OF THAT, GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTIES IN THE SPRING.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AHEAD WITH RESURFACING BUT I WOULD ASK THAT. THAT'D BE LIMITED TO 400,000 OF THE ORIGINAL 800,000 GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS IN THIS YEAR'S UPCOMING BUDGET, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE YOU KNOW WE SPEND TOO MUCH NOW, ONLY TO BE PUT IN A VERY DIFFICULT POSITION.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: WITH TAX INCREASES OR SEEING THE CAP POTENTIALLY AS WE LOOK TO NEXT YEAR. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY BELIEF THAT WE SHOULD MOVE AHEAD BUT GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 1.4 MILLION RESURFACING THIS YEAR VERSUS THE ORIGINAL 1.8 JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: CAN I ASK ME THAT, SINCE THAT WAS ALREADY BUDGETED AND PLAN FOR. DO YOU, YOU DON'T NEED US TO VOTE ON IT AGAIN. RIGHT. SO JUST NODDING OUR HEADS AND IN AGREEMENT WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT SEEMS SUFFICIENT. YES.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THAT'S CORRECT. I MEAN IT'S, WE'RE NOT I'M NOT ASKING. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A VOTE. IT'S MORE APPOINTED INFORMATION OBVIOUSLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT. WE CAN TALK MORE IN DETAIL, BUT GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: YOU KNOW IT IS WAS PART OF THAT.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: IS ALWAYS OPTIONS. THERE'S ALWAYS THE OPTION AGAIN ACCRUING AT THE END OF THE YEAR REPURPOSING IT FOR NEXT YEAR.

JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: PART OF THE PART OF THE BUDGET. SO AT THAT POINT, THE COUNCIL. WHAT IF WE MAKE IT PART OF THE BUNCH OF THE COUNCIL WILL THEN BE ADOPTING THAT CHANGE AT THAT POINT AS WELL.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH, LOOK, I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD BE CAUTIOUS HERE. I THINK IF WE CAN DO DO SOME OF THIS. THE 400,000 WE SHOULD. THIS IS GOING TO MEAN SOMETHING TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THOSE STREETS AND TO THOSE OF US WHO JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: DRIVE THEM.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT I ALSO THINK JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: I'M FEARFUL THAT THAT THERE HAVE BEEN AN OUTCROPPING OF CASES ACROSS THE COUNTY AND ACROSS THE STATE AND THE REGION THAT MAKES ME NERVOUS ABOUT JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO LOOK. IF WE GO BACK INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A MORE RETRACTION MODE.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THEREFORE BEING CONSERVATIVE WITH THESE NUMBERS, I THINK, IS THE SMART THING TO DO. SO I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE VERY THOUGHTFUL.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS THROUGHOUT ALL OF THIS AND IT'S STUNNING TO SEE WHAT YOU WERE WE'VE ENDED UP AFTER YOU KNOW JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK OUR FIRST THOUGHT WAS, LIKE, OH MY GOD, WE MIGHT BE IN THE WHOLE 810 MILLION DOLLARS, RIGHT. I WAS LIKE PANICKING AT NIGHT.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND SO NOW THIS IS JUST A TESTAMENT TO THE WORK THAT THAT JOE AND GREG, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE WITH YOUR STAFF AND AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR IT AND IN AGREEMENT WITH YOUR SUGGESTIONS. SO I'LL SHUT UP NOW.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I'D LIKE TO LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE POINT IS, AS WELL. I MAYOR JOSH COHN: WILL NOD MY HEAD FAVORABLY WITH RESPECT TO GREG'S SUGGESTION I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SPEND THE 400,000 THAT IS WHEN MAYOR JOSH COHN: I FIRST BEGAN AS MAYOR, THE CITY WAS IN A CYCLE OF A MILLION DOLLAR A YEAR EXPENDITURES FAIRLY NEW CYCLE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OF EXPENDITURES OF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR ON STREET RESURFACING AND WE WERE FALLING FARTHER BEHIND EVERY YEAR AS THE CITY STREETS DETERIORATED AS THEY WILL WITH TIME. AND SO OVER TWO YEARS WE HAVE SPENT MAYOR JOSH COHN: CLOSE TO $2 MILLION, OR AT LEAST THAT WAS OUR INTENTION, WE NOW FIND OURSELVES NEEDING TO CUT BACK AND MAYOR JOSH COHN: I RECOGNIZE THE NEED, I MAYOR JOSH COHN: APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE AND BUDGETING US TO THIS POINT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND THE FOUR AND TRY TO KEEP THIS A MOVING FORWARD YEAR FOR OUR ROADS WITH THE HOPE THAT ONCE AGAIN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR ROADS NEXT YEAR I GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: YES, WE GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: I TALKED TO RYAN PROBABLY TWO HOURS BEFORE THIS MEETING AND PUT THEM ON NOTICE HE HAD ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH CONTRACTORS, SO THEY THEY STAND READY AND IT'LL, IT'LL BE DONE BEFORE THE CLIENT CLOSES THIS FALL.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: WOULD OTHERS LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE THEY NOT RICHARD MECCA, COUNCIL MEMBER: KNOW, GOD MAYOR JOSH COHN: OK SO I I I THINK YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH NODS CORRECT FEEL AS COMFORTABLE AS YOU WISH, WITH THIS. THANK YOU.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: DOES THAT WRAP UP THE, THE FINANCIAL SUMMARY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: IT DOES. THANK YOU.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: JOE MAYOR JOSH COHN: THANK YOU GREG. THIS WAS AS ALWAYS VERY HELPFUL.

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: I WONDER IF WE MIGHT TAKE A SHORT JOE FAZZINO, CITY COMPTROLLER: BREAK. THANK YOU.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: KNOW ON WE NOW MEETINGS, MORE THAN THREE HOURS.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: SO HOW ABOUT FIVE MINUTES OFF AND THEN BACK TO THE SCREEN.

RICHARD MECCA, COUNCIL MEMBER: FOR A SECOND, MAYOR JOSH COHN: HERE WE GO.

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: COUNCIL PEOPLE ARE BACK IN POSITION, PLEASE WAKE UP YOUR SCREENS.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OKAY, LET'S SEE. KRISTEN, ARE YOU WITH US, GREG. ARE YOU WITH US.

KRISTEN WILSON: I BELIEVE GREG'S JUST FINISHING UP SOMETHING SO HE WILL BE BACK IN A MINUTE. OKAY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I'M GOING GOING TO BEGIN MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND WITH APOLOGIES TO CRAIG. SO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS IS LITERALLY A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: WE

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: ARE REQUIRED BY EXECUTIVE ORDER TO AND I WILL READ FROM THE EXECUTIVE ORDER PERFORM A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF CURRENT POLICE FORCE DEPLOYMENT STRATEGIES, POLICIES, PROCEDURES, AND PRACTICES.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND DEVELOP A PLAN TO IMPROVE SUCH DEPLOYMENT STRATEGIES, POLICIES, PROCEDURES, AND PRACTICES FOR THE PURPOSES OF ADDRESSING THE PARTICULAR NEEDS FOR COMMUNITIES SERVED BY OUR POLICE AGENCY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND PROMOTE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO FOSTER TRUST FAIRNESS AND LEGITIMACY AND TO ADDRESS ANY RACIAL BIAS AND DISPROPORTIONATE POLICING OF COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND WE MAYOR JOSH COHN: HAVE FROM THE STATE A WORKBOOK ESSENTIALLY TO WORK FROM WHICH DESCRIBES THE PROCESS THAT IS TO GO ON THROUGH THE WINTER MONTHS AND TO CONCLUDE, WE TRUST WITH A REPORT TO MAYOR JOSH COHN: REPORT TO ALBANY BY APRIL 1 MAYOR JOSH COHN: ANY PLAN DEVELOPED BY THE COMMITTEE THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER TO DISCHARGE THIS RESPONSIBILITY THAT REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL ACTION WILL NEED TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL BEFORE THEN.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: WE HAVE MAYOR JOSH COHN: HAD OUR FIRST MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE. AND IN FACT, THE COMMITTEE HAS SUBCOMMITTEES AND THERE HAS BEEN AT LEAST ONE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING SO FAR.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THE COMMITTEE WILL HAVE LISTENING SESSIONS WHICH WILL BE LISTENING SESSIONS WITH THE PUBLIC. THE COMMITTEE WILL HAVE AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW TO DO THIS WILL HAVE A MAILBOX.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THROUGH THE CITY OR ON THE CITY WEBSITE THAT WILL BE TENDED BY THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS. THE TWO COMMITTEE CHAIRS ARE GUIDE DEMPSEY AND LISA DOMENICI MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND MAYOR JOSH COHN: WE VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A GREAT DEAL OF PUBLIC INPUT AND THE MEETINGS OF THE FULL COMMITTEE WILL BE VIDEO RECORDED AND WILL BE AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MAYOR JOSH COHN: INITIAL MAYOR JOSH COHN: COMMITTEE MEETING THE KICKOFF MEETING, WHICH WAS LAST WEEK IS ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: WE ARE FEELING OUR WAY WITH THIS PROCESS THAT IS THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THE MAYOR JOSH COHN: AIR THE COMMUNITIES AROUND US ARE JUST GETTING STARTED AS WELL. WE MAY BE A WEEK OR TWO AHEAD WE HAVE SOME SMALL GUIDANCE BY EXAMPLE IN THE CASE OF THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY HAS STARTED STARTED ITS PROCESS ACTUALLY BEFORE THE STATE PUBLISHED ITS GUIDELINES.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: SO THE COUNTY IS A BIT AHEAD. I THINK OF VIRTUALLY EVERYONE ELSE AND THAT PROVIDES US WITH SOME USEFUL EXAMPLES, THOUGH, FRANKLY, THE, THE COUNTIES.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THE COUNTY IS REALLY JUST BEGINNING TO REPORT ON HOW ITS PROCESS IS MOVING, SO THIS WILL BE QUITE AN ADVENTURE. WE HAVE QUITE A LARGE COMMITTEE BUT MAYOR JOSH COHN: I, I HOPE NOT TOO LARGE TO BE AS FUNCTIONAL AS IT NEEDS TO BE. AND SO THIS IS THIS, THIS HAS SERVED AS THE PUB. THE PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OF THE BEGINNING OF A NEW ONE. I HOPE IT EXCITING PROCESS. TWO OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ARE ON THE COMMITTEE, ALONG WITH ME. CAROLINA IN VAN MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND MAYOR JOSH COHN: THERE WE ARE. IF ANYBODY WISHES TO COMMENT, FEEL FREE.

RICHARD MECCA, COUNCIL MEMBER: LOTS OF LUCK AND GATHERING THE DATA MOVING IT FORWARD.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: ON, ON, THEN.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: ACTION, BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY WE, I, I, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, I KNOW THE ABOUT THE TASK FORCE AND THAT IT SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: NEEDS TO BE CREATED EXECUTIVE ORDER, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT THE PROCESS WAS TO PUT TOGETHER THE COMMITTEE WAS IT

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SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW WHO SOLICITED THE MEMBERS OR DID THEY REACH OUT OR HOW DID IT. AND HOW'S THE, THE NUMBER DETERMINED AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. BECAUSE THAT WAS COMPLETELY NEWS TO ME SO I YOU KNOW I THE ONLY THING I KNOW ABOUT IS OBVIOUSLY THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: SO, SO, PER THE EXECUTIVE ORDER OF THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF EACH LOCALITY CONVENIENCE, THE COMMITTEE AND SO I CONVENED THE COMMITTEE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND I DID HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO REACHED OUT TO ME WHO ASKED TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE AND AND THEY ARE THEY ARE IN FACT ON THE COMMITTEE, THE WORKBOOK ACTUALLY GIVES A LIST OF THE TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT A LOCALITY IS SUPPOSED TO REACH OUT TO IN ORGANIZING THE COMMITTEE AND SO I HUED MAYOR JOSH COHN: VERY MUCH TO THE WORKBOOK AND IN REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE AND AND AND SO THE WORKBOOK, IT'S ACTUALLY AVAILABLE ON ONLINE AND AND MAYOR JOSH COHN: SOMEONE CHARACTERIZE THIS AS BURYING THE LEAD IN THE BACK OF THE WORKBOOK. THERE'S A DESCRIPTION OF THE PROCESS AND THE MAYOR JOSH COHN: THE NATURE OF THE PARTICIPANTS AND AND THEN THE THE WORKBOOK ITSELF IS A COMPENDIUM OF TOPICS THAT WE NEED TO WIN OUT THROUGH IN IN ORDER TO GET TO THE CONCLUSION.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OKAY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND ON TO OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS, WHICH IS TO MAYOR JOSH COHN: CONSIDER ONCE AGAIN THE PETITION FROM THE MAYOR JOSH COHN: MIRIAM OSBORNE MEMORIAL HOME TO AMEND THE TEXT OF THE CITY OF RISE ZONING CODE ASSOCIATION TO CREATE A NEW USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES AND THE ART TO ZONING DISTRICT.

KRISTEN WILSON: I'M SORRY, MR. MAYOR, AGAIN, I THINK THE RESIDENTS WHO WANTED TO BE HEARD WAS KRISTEN WILSON: OH, I'M SORRY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OKAY, YES. SO LET'S STOP RIGHT THERE.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: BY THE WAY, WE ALSO THERE WAS A AGENDA ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT I SAW.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT'S THAT WE SKIPPED OVER TO BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: NUMBER FIVE ON THE AGENDA WHERE WE MAYOR JOSH COHN: THEY. I'M SORRY. WE SHOULD HAVE ANNOUNCED THAT THE ROSE BEDROCK TEAM WAS UNAVAILABLE. OKAY, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

KRISTEN WILSON: MR. MAYOR, WE DO HAVE JOHN LEONARD WHO RAISED HIS HAND TO SPEAK.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OKAY, MR. LEONARD. PLEASE GO AHEAD.

JOHN LEONARD: I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LOT ON YOUR PLATE. AND I APPRECIATE IT. I WOULD LIKE TO RAISE THE QUESTION. HOWEVER, AFTER WALKING AROUND OUR YARD AND SEEING THE MOST SERIOUS DEER DEPREDATION THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN ABOUT EIGHT YEARS.

JOHN LEONARD: ISN'T IT TIME THAT WE TAKE A UPDATED SIR CENSUS OF THE DEER POPULATION AND IN COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY JOHN LEONARD: WORK OUT A DEER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM OF THE NATURE THAT WAS DONE VERY SUCCESSFULLY ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT YEARS AGO WITH A BIRD. SO I THINK QUARTERBACKING IT ON MY SENSE IS THAT WITH THE VERY MILD WINTER WE HAVEN'T HAD A POPULATION EXPLOSION OF FEAR.

JOHN LEONARD: IN OUR YARD NOW MORE SIMILAR TO THAT WAS EXPECTED MARCH, MARCH OR APRIL AFTER THE WINTER.

JOHN LEONARD: WITH THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY HAVE HALF THE DEAL PROPERTIES.

JOHN LEONARD: BY LAND GREAT SANCTUARY MARSHLANDS WE'VE GOT THE NATURE CENTER AND RIGHT TOWN PARK AND JOHN LEONARD: SO I ENCOURAGE THAT. CAN WE FIND THE TIME TO TAKE A SENSE TO START WITH, AND PERHAPS RETURN TO THE JOHN LEONARD: POPULATION CONTROL PROCEDURES THAT WERE USED QUITE SUCCESSFULLY ON THE DEER POPULATION IN 2014 2015. THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR ALL THE GOOD WORK. AND I'LL LEAVE THAT WITH YOU.

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: THANK YOU.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: CHRISTIAN. ANY OTHER TAKERS.

KRISTEN WILSON: IS ANYONE ELSE WHO'S INTERESTED IN SPEAKING WITH YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND.

KRISTEN WILSON: THERE ARE NO OTHER HANDS RAISED.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OKAY, SO NOW FAN PLEASE TO MAYOR JOSH COHN: THE US BORN DISCUSSION AND THIS IS NOT A MAYOR JOSH COHN: THIS IS NOT A MOMENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. AND WE MADE THAT DECISION BECAUSE THE MAYOR JOSH COHN: OSBORN REALLY JUST PUBLISHED ITS RESPONSE TO THE MANY QUESTIONS THAT IT RECEIVED FROM RESIDENTS PREDOMINANTLY ITS NEIGHBORS.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND MAYOR JOSH COHN: THOUGH WE ON THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE HAD TIME. I HOPE TO READ THROUGH THE BOOKLET THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO US, OR AT LEAST THE OPENING PAGES WHICH MAYOR JOSH COHN: SUMMARIZE THE COMMENTS RECEIVED IN THE OSBORNE'S RESPONSE. IT DIDN'T SEEM FAIR TO YET REQUEST PUBLIC COMMENT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND WE WILL BE SURE THAT THERE IS AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT IT DID SEEM LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY. FIRST, TO GIVE THE OSBORNE MAYOR JOSH COHN: A CHANCE TO REFLECT PUBLICLY IF IT WISHES ON THE COMMENT PROCESS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT IT'S BEEN THROUGH, AND THEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY OF US ON THE COUNCIL WHO HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE SEEN SO FAR TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I KNOW THAT THERE'S ONE THING THAT'S COME UP AND THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAYOR JOSH COHN: ASK EITHER THE CITY PLANNER OR CORPORATION COUNSEL TO ADDRESS AND IN THIS IS A QUESTION THAT HAS COME UP IN MANY RESIDENT COMMENTS AND THAT IS THE DIFFICULTY FOR THEM IN EXAMINING A PROPOSAL THAT DOESN'T COME WITH A SITE PLAN FOR AN ACTUAL SPECIFIC MAYOR JOSH COHN: CHANGE IN THE PROPERTY AND WE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE LEARNED THROUGH A NUMBER OF FEES THAT THIS IN FACT IS THE WAY THE PROCESS IS DONE, AND THERE ARE GOOD REASONS FOR IT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF IF CHRISTIAN AND KRISTEN MIGHT EXPLAIN THAT FOR AGAIN FOR MY CERTAINLY MY BENEFIT, BUT FOR THE BENEFIT. I SEE THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE SITTING ON THE CALL.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: WHO ARE PROBABLY I WOULD GUESS SOME GOOD NUMBER OF THEM ARE CONCERNED, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND THIS MAY BE HELPFUL TO THEM BEFORE WE ASK THE OSBORNE TO SPEAK.

KRISTEN WILSON: HERE. SO LET ME BEGIN AND CHRISTIAN. I'M SURE WILL CHIME IN, TO ASSIST IN DESCRIBING WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS AND WHAT THE LEGAL STEPS ARE FOR FULL CONSIDERATION OF THIS KRISTEN WILSON: TYPE OF PROJECT. SO THE OSBORNE HAS PETITIONED THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ZONING AMENDMENT, AND THAT IS THE FIRST STEP IN REVIEWING I GUESS THIS FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, THEY HAVE CODIFIED WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY IN KRISTEN WILSON: WHAT I WOULD CALL COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED A COUPLE DECADES AGO. SO THEY HAVE ADDRESSED THAT IN A LEGISLATIVE MANNER THAT IS PENDING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS PROPOSED.

KRISTEN WILSON: ADDITIONAL KRISTEN WILSON: ADDITIONAL COMPONENTS OF THE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO INCREASE THEIR FLIR TO MODIFY SOME OF THEIR SETBACKS.

KRISTEN WILSON: IT INCLUDES SOME THE AGE RESTRICTIONS THAT BUT FOR THE CARETAKERS ARE THE FEW FAMILIES THAT LIVE ON THE PROPERTY. SO THOSE KRISTEN WILSON: TYPES OF THINGS ARE PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE AMENDMENT THAT THE COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO ADOPT THE LEGISLATION, THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BE THE REVIEWER, THE BODY IN THE CITY THAT REVIEWS THE SITE PLAN WHICH WILL BE MUCH MORE SPECIFIC.

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KRISTEN WILSON: REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS OF THEIR PLACEMENT OF THE THE WAY THE SITE ACTUALLY WORKS IN DETAIL, BUT THAT IS A THE SECOND STEP IN THIS PROCESS. THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY KRISTEN WILSON: ALLOW AND IT REALLY ESSENTIALLY ADOPT THE BLUEPRINT FOR WHAT THAT PROPERTY COULD LOOK LIKE IF IT WAS BUILT OUT TO ITS FULL POTENTIAL.

KRISTEN WILSON: I KNOW CHRISTIAN. DID I MISS ANYTHING.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: NO, I JUST THE OTHER ELEMENT OF THIS. SO THIS IS A VERY LARGE PROPERTY, UM, YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH AREAS THAT WERE SMALLER AND YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD VERY SPECIFIC PROGRAMS. CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THAT, AT THAT POINT, MAYBE THE PETITIONER WAS VERY HAD A VERY SPECIFIC UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WAS NEEDED. BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY PRACTICAL FOR A PROPERTY OF THIS SIZE WITH A BUILD OUT SO MANY

[8. Resolution to amend the 2020 Adopted Fees and Charges for the Boat Basin to create a fee for the use of storage containers for Summer/Winter.]

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: YEARS INTO THE FUTURE. UM, AND IT WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THAN LARGE NEIGHBORHOODS.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THAT WERE ACTUALLY CREATED IN THE 50S AND RIGHT. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HOUSES. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE, OR THE ARRANGEMENTS OF THE STREETS, BUT THE ZONING WAS PUT INTO PLACE TO SAY THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THESE WOULD BE THE LOTS CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT THE SCALE OF IT IS IS SUCH THAT IT REALLY DOES LEND ITSELF TO TO LOOKING AT THIS AS A ZONING AMENDMENT.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND FOR THE COUNCIL AND FOR THE PUBLIC. I KNOW THAT'S TRICKY, BUT YOU NEED TO ASK YOURSELF, WHAT IF, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT COULD IT BE BASED ON THESE SETBACKS BASED ON THIS VULCAN MASS BASED ON THESE KINDS OF USES.

[9. Resolution authorizing the City Manager to enter into a contract with the County of Westchester for Snow and Ice Removal on County Roads for the period from October 1, 2020 through September 30, 2025.]

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: OFTEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT SOMETIMES APPLICANTS WILL SUBMIT A PLAN.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND COUNCILS IN THE PUBLIC FALL IN LOVE WITH THE PLAN, BUT THAT PLAN IS ACTUALLY WHAT THE ZONING IS AND THAT'S ACTUALLY IS, AS SOMEONE THAT ADVISES BOARDS THAT I GET MORE CONCERNED WITH CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: WE HAVE TO SORT OF REAL PEOPLE BACK TO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT'S NOT THAT'S A PLAN OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE, BUT NOT THE PLAN OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC AS THEY HAVE QUESTIONS TO TO THINK ABOUT IT IN THAT CONTEXT.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: HOW CAN YOU MAKE ME AS A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THESE BUILDINGS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IN VARIOUS ARRANGEMENTS FROM VARIOUS POINTS OF VIEW, FROM VARIOUS VANTAGE POINTS. HOW COULD THE MIX OF WHAT IS PROPOSED CHANGE SUCH THAT IT MIGHT CHANGE IMPACTS ON TRAFFIC OR CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: SOME OF THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT HAVE HAVE BEEN RAISED AND THEN WITH THAT THEY WE CAN WE CAN START TO CHANGE OR MODIFY THE LEGISLATION TO MANAGE THAT AS NECESSARY. SO IT REALLY DOES FORCE THE COUNCIL TO AS THE LEGISLATIVE BODY TO LOOK AND CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: THINK LIKE PLANNERS DO AND IT'S IT'S A LITTLE BIT TRICKY, BUT WE HOPEFUL BETWEEN THE APPLICANT PRESENTING THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE AND STAFF ASSISTING WE CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT PROCESS.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: ASK A QUESTION.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: UM IT ONCE SAY WE GET THROUGH THIS PHASE WHERE THE COUNCIL RECOMMENDS THAT THIS MOVE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD DOES NOT END. CORRECT. I MEAN, THEY PEOPLE ARE STILL ABLE TO BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, HAVE HAVE INPUT OR HAVE, SAY, OR HAVE YOU KNOW SOME PARTICIPATION IN THE PROCESS, OR IS THIS IT CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: NO, I MEAN IN TERMS OF IT'S NOT A TWO STEP PROCESS IN THE SENSE THAT STEP ONE IS YOU CHANGE THE ZONING.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: AND THEN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. THE OSBORNE WOULD PURSUE SOME SORT OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT WITH THAT ZONING, THEY MIGHT DO IT THE DAY AFTER THE ZONING IS FILED WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE, IT MIGHT BE A YEAR, FIVE YEARS 10 YEARS FROM NOW.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: BUT IN THAT SECOND PROCESS, WHICH WOULD RESIDE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. YES, THERE WOULD BE PUBLIC COMMENT PUBLIC REVIEW.

CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THIS PROCESS THAT YOU'RE DOING HERE. IT'S VERY, IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THRESHOLD. SO YOU SHOULD TREAT IT AS CHRISTIAN MILLER, CITY PLANNER: IT DOESN'T MEAN THE NEXT STEP IS RUBBER STAMPING, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THIS STAMP IS SORT OF, YOU KNOW, DOES IT MATTER NO THIS STEP MATTERS A LOT AND THE COUNCIL SHOULD SHOULD GET COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTIAN OR KRISTEN BEFORE I INVITE THROUGH OSBORNE TO

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: TO LET US KNOW WHAT IT'S THINKING KRISTEN WILSON: OKAY, I WILL PROMOTE THE OSBORNE REPRESENTATIVES TO THE PANELISTS, IF THAT'S OKAY. MR. MAYOR, YES.

PLEASE.

STEVEN WRABEL: HI EVERYONE. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME OKAY MAYOR JOSH COHN: YES. GREAT.

STEVEN WRABEL: AND I SEE MAN AND DR. ON. SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO GO. SO, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS STEPHEN REBEL AND WITH THE LAW FIRM OF MECHANICAL BURGER AND STOUT STEVEN WRABEL: AS I THINK WAS NOTED IN THE OVERVIEW. FROM THERE WE LAST APPEARED IN MAY. SO WE HOPE YOU ALL HAD A VERY NICE SUMMER IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE BUT WE'RE BACK NOW.

STEVEN WRABEL: AND IN MAY. YOU GUYS OPENED UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON OUR ZONING AND AN APPLICATION. AND WE, AS WAS NOTED RECEIVE NUMBER OF COMMENTS FROM US COUNCIL AS, AS WELL AS SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

STEVEN WRABEL: SO IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WE GENERATED A VERY COMPREHENSIVE RESPONSE TO THOSE COMMENTS WHICH WAS SUBMITTED AND IS NOW PUBLISHED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

STEVEN WRABEL: AND WE ALSO BEGAN OUR OWN PROCESS OF NEIGHBOR OUTREACH WITH DIRECT COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THE OSBORNE AND PUBLIC STEVEN WRABEL: SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO. WE HAVE MATT ANDERSON, THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE OSBORNE TONIGHT WE HAVE ANDY TANG, THE ENGINEER AND CLEANER FROM ME, TOM SWAMI STEVEN WRABEL: IS I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MATT WHO CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE NEIGHBOR ENGAGEMENT. AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US. WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO ANSWER THEM.

MATT ANDERSON: SO THANK YOU, STEVE. THANK YOU. MARCO AND THANKFUL. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE TIME THIS EVENING, AS STEVE SAID OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO ENGAGE YOUR NEIGHBORS IN THE COMMUNITY ON THIS PROPOSAL.

MATT ANDERSON: WE FIRST STARTED WITH SENDING OUT MULTIPLE MAKE MAILERS TO NEIGHBORS WITHIN THE SURROUNDING STREETS TO THE OSBORNE MATT ANDERSON: AND WE ALSO SEND OUT THOSE LETTERS TO ANYBODY WHO SUBMITTED PUBLIC COMMENTS THESE LETTERS EXPLAINED VARIOUS ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR PETITION AND ALSO ANNOUNCED DIFFERENT DATES FOR SEVERAL WEBINARS. THERE'LL BE ACTUALLY HOSTED MATT ANDERSON: HERE TO OFFER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION INTO ALLOW FOR GREATER DIALOGUE WITH QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD AT THE END.

MATT ANDERSON: WE'VE ALSO POSTED THE DATES FOR THOSE WEBINARS ON MY RIDE COMMS CALENDAR EVENTS, REALIZING THAT EVERYBODY WOULD NOT BE RECEIVING OUR LETTERS SO OTHER PEOPLE WANTED TO SOME PEOPLE COULD MATT ANDERSON: SECONDLY, WE CREATED A UNIQUE PAGE ON THE AS ONES WEBSITE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION. ANYONE CAN GO TO THAT SITE. IT'S WWW DOT THE I'S BORN.ORG BACKSLASH ZONING TODAY, WE'VE HAD ABOUT 450 OF US HAVE THAT ACTUAL SITE AND THAT ZONING WEBSITE WAS PUT OUT IN THOSE LETTERS AS WELL.

MATT ANDERSON: THE WEBSITE INCLUDES ACCESS TO ALL THE MATERIALS. WE'VE FILED WITH THE CITY AS WELL AS A LINK TO THE INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION WE MADE DURING THE MOST RECENT WEBINAR. WE ACTUALLY POSTED THAT MATT ANDERSON: PHYSICALLY TO THE SITE FOR THOSE WHO WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND. SO ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO CAN ACTUALLY GO TO THAT WEBSITE.

MATT ANDERSON: AND ACTUALLY DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE YOU'LL SEE, ACTUALLY IT'S, I THINK, MORE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE YOU'LL SEE A LINK TO THE LAST WEBINAR THAT WE'VE RECORDED MATT ANDERSON: IT HAS 26 TIMES MATT ANDERSON: WE ALSO CREATED A DEDICATED EMAIL ADDRESS THAT EMAIL ADDRESS FOR ALL LISTENING IS ZONING AT THE OSBORNE.ORG AND WE CREATED THIS BASICALLY TO FIELD QUESTIONS RELATING TO STEVEN WRABEL: NOW, I THINK WE MAY HAVE LOST YOUR CONNECTION THERE.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: HE LOOKS FROZEN MAYBE MATT ANDERSON: I AM SO SORRY I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG I WAS FROZEN FOR SO WORRIED. I MAYOR JOSH COHN: WOULDN'T YOU WERE MENTIONING, I MAYOR JOSH COHN: THINK YOU WERE MENTIONING HOW HOW MANY WEBSITE VISITORS WHO HAD HAD MATT ANDERSON: SURE. SO, SO THE WEBSITE IS IT'S JUST GOING BACK TO IT. IT BRINGS ABOUT 400 VIEWS TO DATE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY ON THE WEBSITE.

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MATT ANDERSON: AND THEN AGAIN ON THAT WEBSITE. WE HAVE THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL THE WEBINARS POSTED ON THERE TOO AND THAT'S BEEN ACTUALLY VIEWED 26 TIMES SO FAR.

MATT ANDERSON: WE'VE ALSO CREATED AN EMAIL ADDRESS ZONING UP THE OSBORNE.ORG. THIS WAS PUT OUT BOTH IN THE THE MAILERS AND DETAILED ON THE WEBINAR.

MATT ANDERSON: AND THAT, AGAIN, THAT EMAIL ADDRESSES GOING UP THE I WAS BORN.ORG AND THAT HAS BEEN A WAY FOR US TO GET YOUR QUESTIONS PUT TO THAT AND ALL EMAIL SENT TO THAT DEDICATED EMAIL ADDRESS, HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY REPLY TO SO FAR.

MATT ANDERSON: OUT OF THESE EMAILS YOU KNOW CAME A REQUEST TO ACTUALLY TAKE THE SIDEWALK AND ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS WAS KIND ENOUGH TO HELP MYSELF FACILITATE THAT.

MATT ANDERSON: WITH OTHER LOCAL NEIGHBORS THAT THEY KNEW WHO HAD CONCERNS AND WE PUT THAT OUT. SO WE HELP TO HAVE THOSE WALKS. MOST RECENTLY, WITHIN THE LAST WEEK.

MATT ANDERSON: THOSE WERE HELPFUL TO ME. I THINK THEY ALSO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEM. I BELIEVE THEY WERE ALSO HELPFUL TO THAT AND I THINK MATT ANDERSON: PHYSICALLY, BEING ABLE TO WALK THE SITE PHYSICALLY BEING ABLE TO SEE WHERE SOME OF THESE SETBACKS ARE MATT ANDERSON: IN THE PROPOSAL, BUT ALSO JUST A CHANCE TO ANSWER OTHER QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT COME OUT JUST ABOUT THE OSBORNE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS THAT HAS COME UP IS IN REGARDS TO JUST MATT ANDERSON: YOU KNOW SITE AND HOW BIG THESE BUILDINGS WORK OR ARE YOU KNOW THAT WE COULD BUILD AND ANDY TANG WAS VERY HELPFUL TO KIND OF LOOK AT OUR CURRENT SITE AND KIND OF PICK A SPOT WHERE IT WOULD KIND OF MIMIC WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM THIS AT LEAST A 240 FOOT SET BACK ON OSBORNE ROAD.

MATT ANDERSON: WE FELT THAT THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE THAT WAS A BIG QUESTION BEING ASKED AND MATT ANDERSON: CHANGING THAT SETBACK BACK FROM THE 160 AND CHANGING IT TO THE TO 40 AND THEN IF YOU PUT A A BUILDING OUT AT A FOUR STORY 60 FOOT BUILDING. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE WITH THE GRADE CHANGE IN THE HEIGHT, YOU KNOW, MATT ANDERSON: IT DOESN'T, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SEE ON PAPER, BUT IN BEING ABLE TO KIND OF SHOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN FROM ANOTHER VANTAGE OF OUR CAMPUS GIVEN SIMILAR DIMENSIONS AND STUFF. I THINK THAT WAS WAS HELPFUL.

MATT ANDERSON: WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO WALK DOWN TOWARDS RIGHT MATTER AND LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT WAS THREE STORIES HIGH AND HAD ONLY 100 FOOT STEP BACK AND HOW DOES THAT VISUALLY LOOK MATT ANDERSON: AS WELL. SO I THINK THOSE WALKS. AGAIN, WE'RE WE'RE HELPFUL.

MATT ANDERSON: TO ALL OF US AS WE WENT THROUGH AND THEN IS ESTEEMED SHARED ANOTHER BIG ASPECT TO THIS, WHICH KIND OF WHILE WASN'T ENDEAVORED TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS RAISED MATT ANDERSON: AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'VE SUBMITTED. THIS IS ACTUALLY IN THE PACKET OF MATERIALS. IT'S ALSO NOW ALSO UP IN OUR WEBSITE AT THE BOTTOM OF IT.

MATT ANDERSON: BUT FOR REFERENCE PURPOSES. THE COMMENTS AND RESPONSES WE KIND OF GROUPS ON THE TOPIC HEADINGS THAT WERE OUTLINED IN THE I WAS BORN MARCH 2020 ZONING TYPE TEXTING THEM IN PETITION BINDER.

MATT ANDERSON: AND SO THOSE ARE MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE AGAIN THE CONTINUED DIALOGUE, BOTH WITH ALL OF YOU. AND AGAIN, WITH THE NEIGHBORS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

MATT ANDERSON: AND, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, AS, AS BOTH CHRISTIAN IN CHRISTIAN JUST DID. IT'S A VERY COMPLEX PROCESS.

MATT ANDERSON: THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND IT'S ONE THAT I LEARNED THE COMPLEXITY OF IT WHEN WE FIRST ASKED TO BASICALLY COME AND ASK TO HAVE ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE HERE ON OUR CAMPUS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HERE AND WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO THANK YOU. THAT'S THAT WE'VE DONE TO BE MAYOR JOSH COHN: A INITIAL KIND OF OVERVIEW. QUESTION FOR YOU AND AND THANK YOU FOR FOR PREPARING THE INFORMATION YOU'VE PREPARED AND AND FOR FOR FOR STAYING WITH US LATE, LATE INTO THE EVENING.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME IF YOU MADE ANY CHANGES TO YOUR REQUEST OF THE CITY IN IN RESPONSE TO THE PROCESS THAT YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH WITH THE RESIDENTS.

MATT ANDERSON: SO WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY CHANGES PREDATE AMERICA.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OKAY, SO DO YOU HAVE, IS THERE MORE THAT THE OSBORNE WISHES WISHES TO SAY, OR SHOULD WE JUST ASK ERIC QUESTIONS.

MATT ANDERSON: I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD UNLESS STEVE OR ANDY FIELDS THAT I LEFT OUT ANYTHING STEVEN WRABEL: NO, I THINK YOU DID A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE JOB, MATT.

STEVEN WRABEL: YOU KNOW, WE'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO RUN BACK ANY OF THE INFORMATION YOU PRESENTED IN PRIOR MEETINGS OR IF YOU JUST WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS. WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER AS BEST WE CAN.

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: I HAVE A FEW OTHERS. OTHERS MAY MAY AS WELL. MY FIRST QUESTION IS WITH RESPECT TO THE HUNDRED FOOT SET BACK ON FEEL ROAD.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THAT SEEMED TO GARNER A GREAT DEAL OF NEGATIVE ATTENTION WITH CONCERNS FROM PEOPLE ON OSBORNE, AND I WOULD GUESS AND AND COOLIDGE ABOUT US IS ESSENTIALLY CREATING SOMETHING THAT LOOKED LIKE THE THE THE HEART EDGE OF AN INSTITUTIONAL CARTER THERE. AND AS I LOOKED AT THE MAYOR JOSH COHN: MAP.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: IT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: STRUCK ME THAT SOMETHING THAT THE OSBORNE MIGHT DO IN RESPONSE TO THAT CONCERN.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND AND I DON'T SAY MIGHT DO LIGHTLY. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR, YOUR OPTIONS WITH RESPECT TO YOUR PROPERTY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: IS THAT YOU MIGHT MAYOR JOSH COHN: MOVE THE BEGINNING OF THAT HUNDRED FOOT SET BACK TO THE OTHER SIDE OF RIGHT MANNER.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: SO THAT THERE WAS SOME EASING THERE OF THE VISUAL EFFECT THAT I THINK, ONE MIGHT SEE FROM FROM FROM OSBORNE, THAT IS LOOKING DOWN FEEL MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND HAVING RYMAN ARE ON ONE SIDE, YOU MENTIONED IT'S JUST THREE STORIES, BUT IT IS INSTITUTIONAL IN IN LOOK AND THEN ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE OSBORNE ABLE TO MAYOR JOSH COHN: GO OUT AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S JUST 30% OCCUPANCY. LET'S CALL IT BUT BUT GO GO OUT TO THE HUNDRED FOOT LIMIT. IS IT POSSIBLE TO EASE THAT HUNDRED FEET BACK IN SO MAYOR JOSH COHN: THAT IT'S SOME SAFE DISTANCE, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE OF RYE MANNER. I, I, AND IT'S EASY FOR ME TO SAY IT. I SEE THAT AS AS PERHAPS SOMETHING SOME SOME PLACE WHERE YOU MIGHT BE FLEXIBLE AND WHERE IT MIGHT PROVIDE A REAL VISUAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD BENEFIT SO I I TENDER THAT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

MATT ANDERSON: OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE WERE PLANNING THAT AGAIN, JUST TO BE CLEAR TO EVERYBODY ABOUT WHAT THAT YELLOW MATT ANDERSON: LINE IS AND WHAT IT REPRESENTS. WE CAN ONLY INCUR INTO THAT YELLOW SPACE, A TOTAL AREA OF 30% IN TOTAL AMONGST THE ENTIRE YELLOW AREA.

MATT ANDERSON: AND THE REASON FOR THAT YELLOW AREA WAS, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR BUILDINGS THAT COME DOWN THE HILL ROAD.

MATT ANDERSON: WAS IS THAT ALL THE BUILDINGS ARE NOT STRAIGHT UP AGAINST OR PARALLEL TO FEEL ROAD THERE THE CORNER THAT ANGLES. AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, IS TO NOT CREATE A WALL LIKE FEELING MATT ANDERSON: DOWN TO ROAD. SO THE INTENT WOULD BE AS IF WE WANTED TO DO ANYTHING IN THAT AREA AND DO ANYTHING OFF OF ANY OF THOSE BUILDINGS WE WOULD WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT THOUGHT PROCESS. SO AT ONE FEEL LIKE A WALL.

MATT ANDERSON: AND THE REASON WHY THE YELLOW LINE WENT DOWN IN FRONT OF RYAN MANNER IS IS WE WERE LOOKING AT ZONING FOR ACROSS THE STREET, AND WE WERE TRYING TO MATCH IT UP TO WHAT THE ZONING.

MATT ANDERSON: FRONTAGE WAS FOR THE BUILDINGS ACROSS THOSE STREETS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ALSO 100 FEET.

MATT ANDERSON: SO WE WERE MATCHING UP THAT ZONING TO THE ZONING ACROSS THE STREET. THEY HAD 100 FOOT. SO WE WERE MATCHING UP THE HUNDRED FLOOD. AND SO THAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND IT, BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY TAKE THAT BACK WITH CONSIDERATION.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THANK YOU. IT MIGHT. MY NEXT QUESTION IS WITH RESPECT TO BUILDING HIGH AND I NEGLECTED TO BRING THE NICE MAYOR JOSH COHN: BINDER THAT YOU DELIVERED TO US BACK IN MAY, OR APRIL, BUT THERE WAS A CHART IN THAT BINDER SHOWING BUILDING HEIGHTS BY STORY AND WHAT BUILDING HEIGHTS HAD BEEN BY STORY.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: IT THROUGH A SERIES OF ZONING ITERATIONS, INCLUDING AND AN INDICATION. I THINK OF WHAT FIVE STAR FIVE STORY BUILDING HIGH IS NOW ON THE OSBORN CAMPUS AND YOU HAVE IN YOUR PLANS GOING FORWARD A FIVE STORY BUILDING HIGH AS 75 FEE.

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND I LOOKED AT WELL I I DID A GUT CHECK AND ALSO HAD SOMEONE WHO COULD DO A CHECK WITH SOMEONE WHO KNOWS BUILDING FAR BETTER THAN I MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND IT REALLY SEEMED AS IF A FIVE STORY BUILDING HEIGHT FOR BUILDINGS OF THIS TYPE WOULD BE MORE IN THE 60 TO 65 FOOT RANGE WHICH APPEARS TO BE THE HEIGHT OF THE FIVE STOREY BUILDINGS, YOU NOW HAVE MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND SO I'M CURIOUS, DO YOU REALLY NEED 75 FEET. I THINK IT PROBABLY WOULD BE A GREAT COMFORT TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT BULK AND SIGHTLINE AND THE LIKE. IF YOU WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THE THAT THAT 75 FOOT ASK NOT NECESSARILY THE FIVE STORY ASK, BUT THE 75 FOOT ASK MAYOR JOSH COHN: HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT RESOUND WITH YOU. SURE.

MATT ANDERSON: MARIN COUNTY, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: IT WAS PLEASED MATT ANDERSON: OKAY, SO, AND IF YOU COULD ALL JUST DO ME A FAVOR AND I KNOW IT'S LATE, BUT JUST TELL ME IF THIS THE RIGHT SCREEN COMES UP BECAUSE I'M NOT ALWAYS. UNFORTUNATELY, THE BEST AT THIS. SO LET ME, LET ME TRY TO GO AHEAD MAYOR JOSH COHN: JASON PHOTOS COME UP, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW.

MATT ANDERSON: YEAH, SO YOU SHOULD SEE PART OF THE PRESENTATION ACTUALLY NOW ON YOUR SCREEN. THAT IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE WEBINAR PRESENTATION. DO YOU SEE A MAP OF THE, THE, THE ONE WITH THE SETBACKS.

MATT ANDERSON: YES, YES. SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS THIS RED LINE HERE.

MATT ANDERSON: WHICH RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW. JUST SO EVERYBODY IS IN THE KNOW THE BLUE LINE WHICH IS RIGHT NOW 160 FEET.

MATT ANDERSON: WOULD BE THIS THIS WHITE LINE, PLUS THE REST OF THE BLUE LINE AROUND THE PROPERTY AND THAT IS 160 FEET BACK FROM OUR PROPERTY LINE WHICH IS REPRESENTED BY THE WAISTLINE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THE THE ZONING SAYS THAT WE CAN BUILD A FIVE STORY 75 FOOT BUILDING MATT ANDERSON: SO WHEN WE WERE GOING BACK AND LOOKING THROUGH THIS, THE MAIN OSBORNE BUILDING IS IS FIVE STORIES AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT BECOMES WHEN YOU START GETTING TO THE THE TOWER AND AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

MATT ANDERSON: SO I, I'D HAVE TO GO OUT AND PHYSICALLY MEASURE THE BUILDING OF THE IDEA WAS, IS TO KEEP THAT FIVE STORIES 75 WITHIN THE, THE, THE CHANGE AND THE SETBACK WITHIN THIS RED BOX AREA.

MATT ANDERSON: AND CONGRUENT WITH I GUESS IF WE EVER HAD TO BUILD ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE IN LINE WITH, SAY, THE OTHER BUILDING MATT ANDERSON: THAT IS ALSO FIVE STORIES. SO, BUT WE COULD GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THAT FIVE STORY BUILDING IS AND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO BUILD A FIVE STORY BUILDING TO MATCH IT, IT WAS MATT ANDERSON: AGAIN WE WE MOVED, WE MOVED IT BACK WITHIN THIS LINE TO KEEP IN LINE WITH POTENTIALLY GOING AHEAD. THE OTHER BUILDINGS ARE ARE FORCED BOYS.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I I I I APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION. I WISH I HAD BROUGHT THE CHART WITH ME BECAUSE I HAD READ IT TO INDICATE THAT YOU WERE UNDER MAYOR JOSH COHN: FIVE STORY. IT SEEMED TO ME TO BE 64 FOOT RULE AND YOU'RE INDICATING THAT THAT THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

MATT ANDERSON: WELL, MARCO. AND LET ME LET ME GO BACK AND I CAN CHECK ON THAT NUMBER, BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

MATT ANDERSON: AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WE CAN LOOK INTO. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF, AGAIN, WHAT THE THE CROWD ZONING, IS THAT THE THE FIVE STARS FIVE STORIES 75 FEET AND AGAIN US MOVING THAT BACK IN THERE IN KEEPING IT IN RELATION TO WHAT WAS ALREADY THERE. AND WHAT WE HAD.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OKAY, AND THEN I JUST HAVE ONE MORE. AND I'LL ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO TO CHIME IN IF IF THEY WILL, BUT MAYOR JOSH COHN: YOU, YOU, YOU MAY SEE WHERE I'M GOING, I'M, I'M, I'M TRYING TO FIND WAYS MAYOR JOSH COHN: THAT YOU WAYS IN WHICH YOU MIGHT BE RESPONSIVE TO TO ASKS FROM FROM THE RESIDENTS.

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MAYOR JOSH COHN: ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS, OF COURSE, IS TRAFFIC AND NUMBER OF OF COMMENTERS SPEAK TO THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM. AND I THINK THAT WE, AS A CITY ALREADY KNOW THAT TRAFFIC AROUND OSBORNE SCHOOL IS PARTICULARLY PROBLEMATICAL MORNING AND AFTERNOON.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: WE'VE SPOKEN BEFORE THE POSSIBILITY OF THE OSBORNE FINDING A WAY TO HELP OUT WITH THAT PROBLEM WITH PERHAPS A LITTLE SPACE FOR MAYOR JOSH COHN: AT DROP OFF ROAD OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT WORK. AND I THINK MATT THAT THAT YOU VERY KINDLY HAVE INDICATED THAT THE OSBORNE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO THAT PROCESS. BUT I'M WONDERING WHAT YOU CAN GIVE US MAYOR JOSH COHN: IN THE COURSE OF THIS ZONING PROCESS BY WAY OF SOME FIRM COMMITMENT TO HELP RESOLVE THAT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I REALIZE IT'S JUST ON ONE ONE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY. BUT WHAT WHAT MAY BE THE DOMINANT TRAFFIC PROBLEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AND SINCE YOU ARE GOING TO BE HAVING MORE PEOPLE AND MORE CARS, IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO TO BE CONCERNED AT LEAST AT THIS STAGE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: IS IS KING CAN. IS THERE SOME WAY, YOU CAN COME UP WITH THE EVENT IN THESE EARLY DAYS TO CREATE A COMMITMENT HERE THAT WILL LET PEOPLE KNOW AND LET THE CITY KNOW IN FACT THAT THAT THE THAT THE OSBORNE WILL WILL WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS TO FULLY TO MANAGE THIS PROBLEM. YEAH.

MATT ANDERSON: MY ACCOUNT. YOU MIND IF I SHARE THIS SCREEN. JUST ONE LAST TIME.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: GO RIGHT AHEAD. SO MATT ANDERSON: I'M GOING TO BRING BACK UP THAT THAT MAP. SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE THE ICE POINT SCHOOL HERE, WHERE AGAIN MY BOTH MY, MY CHILDREN WENT THERE. I'M BACK. GEEZ, AN AGE MYSELF HERE, BUT ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO OR SO.

MATT ANDERSON: IT WAS TOUGH TO DO PICK UP AND DROP OFF AT THAT POINT IN TIME. SO I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY A BIG TOPIC OF CONVERSATION WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT I HAD TOURED IN THE IN THE DAYTIME LAST WEEK AND AND WE DISCUSSED THIS.

MATT ANDERSON: WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN THE PAST, WILLING TO WORK WITH A SCHOOL ON AN ACTUAL TRAFFIC. WE ACTUALLY IN THE PAST HAVE A GAVE THE LIGHT THAT'S ACTUALLY HERE AT THIS THIS CROSSROAD.

MATT ANDERSON: AND THEN LATER ON WE GAVE ACTUAL PROPERTY HERE ON THE CORNER TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THIS LOOP ACCESS ROAD SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE MY POINTER IS GOING MATT ANDERSON: SO THE OSBORNE IN THE PAST HAS HELPED AND AND WILL ACTUALLY CONSIDERED WITH A SCHOOL WORKING WITH THEM ON THIS. I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH DR. BYRNE ABOUT THIS. HE AND I HAVE MET AND MATT ANDERSON: I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY SECRET. THERE'S APPARENTLY IN TALKING WITH MATT ANDERSON: YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT PEOPLE AROUND TOWN APPARENTLY THERE WAS A NAPKIN DRAWING ALL THE POTENTIAL LOOPHOLE.

MATT ANDERSON: AND THAT LOOP ROAD WENT FROM SOMEHOW HERE AND BACK BEHIND THE PROPERTY. THE OSBORNE AND THEN SOMEHOW CAME OUT BACK OUT ON AS FORM ROAD AND MATT ANDERSON: I KNEW THAT THE PEOPLE THAT I TOURED HAD HEARD DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT THAT. AND MY DISCUSSIONS WITH WITH DR. BYRNE ABOUT IT. I SAID THIS WOULD MATT ANDERSON: BE SOMETHING THAT THE OSBORNE WOULD CONSIDER WHETHER IT BE AN EASEMENT OR OTHER TYPES OF THINGS. BUT BEFORE WE COULD CONSIDER THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THE ASK IS, AND MATT ANDERSON: AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT HAS NOT BEEN STUDIED AND MATT ANDERSON: THAT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED. AND ACTUALLY ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT TOWARD ON THAT DAY WAS A REP, I BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE PTO AND SHE ACTUALLY CONFIRMED THAT AS WELL.

MATT ANDERSON: SO RIGHT NOW I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT WHAT THAT ASK IS, AND THE OSBORNE IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET INVOLVED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

MATT ANDERSON: WHEN WE KNOW WHAT THE ASK IS, AND WHEN WE KNOW WHAT THE ASK IS, WE CAN WE CAN GIVE AN ANSWER. BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS BEING LOOKED FOR AND HOW MUCH AND SO FORTH. SO MATT ANDERSON: I HOPE EVERYBODY CAN KIND OF APPRECIATE THAT AND KNOW THAT FROM PAST HISTORY. THE, THE OSBORNE HAS BEEN A GOOD COMMUNITY CITIZEN.

MATT ANDERSON: AND HAS HELPED OUT WITH THESE THINGS IN THE PAST AND IS LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE, BUT WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE THE THE PARAMETERS ARE AND SO FORTH.

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MATT ANDERSON: AND THEN I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS, I CAN SHARE WITH YOU. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS THERE WAS PEOPLE THAT THAT LIVE ON OSBORNE ROAD THAT ARE ESPECIALLY MATT ANDERSON: YOU KNOW, HAPPY WITH THAT IDEA EITHER. SO I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THAT AREA. BUT THE HIGHEST POINTS WILLING TO HAVE HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: IT. I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO ACCELERATE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND MAYOR JOSH COHN: I, I'D BE HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO JEN BOYLE AND INDICATE THE CITY'S INTEREST.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OBVIOUSLY, IF, IF THE SCHOOLS CAN SCHOOL CAN'T GET HIM MOVING THEN MAYOR JOSH COHN: I UNDERSTAND YOUR SITUATION.

MATT ANDERSON: HAPPY TO BE PART OF ANY, ANY DISCUSSION WITH THAT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: DO OTHERS ON THE COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS NOW. JULIE.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: NOT RELATED TO THE TRAFFIC IS ALSO AND I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK THROUGH MY NOTES BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSED MAP BEFORE JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: THE ULTIMATE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THAT WE THOUGHT THAT THE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE END GAME COULD DRAW AND IT WAS A NUMBER 40 UNITS 100 PEOPLE HUNDRED AND 50 PEOPLE SOMETHING MATT ANDERSON: YES. SO THANK YOU FOR ASKING. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL JUST CONCEPTUAL THOUGHT AND AND OBVIOUSLY WITH WITH COVEN MATT ANDERSON: AND SENIOR LIVING. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SEE YOU KNOW HOW THIS ALL PLAYS OUT WITH AGING SERVICES AND WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE MATT ANDERSON: THE IDEA BEFORE ALL THIS IS IS THAT WE WILL BE ADDING ABOUT ADD ADDITIONAL INDEPENDENT LIVING UNITS ON CAMPUS.

MATT ANDERSON: AND APPROXIMATELY ABOUT ANOTHER 50 LET'S JUST CALL IT HEALTH CARE AREA PLACES THAT WOULD BE A MIXTURE OF BOTH MEMORY CARE.

MATT ANDERSON: WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING A MEMORY CARE, SINCE WE OPENED IT UP IN 2013 AND ALSO WE'RE SEEING A DEMAND FOR LARGER MATT ANDERSON: LARGER ASSISTED LIVING TYPE SQUARE COUPLES TO BE IN OTHER TYPES OF THINGS. SO THAT WAS ANY ADDITIONAL INDEPENDENT LIVING ABOUT 50 ADDITIONAL HEALTHCARE, SO ABOUT 130 MATT ANDERSON: MORE UNITS AND THEN WITH 130 DIFFERENT UNITS, IF YOU CONSIDER AN INDEPENDENT LIVING, YOU WOULD HAVE SPOUSES, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF SPOUSES AND PERCENTAGES THAT WOULD COME TO ABOUT 150 PEOPLE AS WHAT WE WE FIGURE IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH MS AND OTHER SAFETY PEOPLE JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: OKAY, SO THAT'S HELPFUL. AND THEN IT, IT HELPS SET UP MY NEXT QUESTION TO WHICH IS ULTIMATELY WITH ALL OF THOSE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE WHICH WILL BE GREAT TO SERVE.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: I JUST WASN'T QUITE SURE THERE I WAS READING THROUGH THE NOTES AND YOU KNOW SOME OF THESE COMMENTS WERE YOU KNOW ABOUT TRAFFIC AND AND PARKING JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND I THINK IT WAS REITERATED IN THE RESPONSE FROM US BORN THAT YOU KNOW JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PARKING ON THE STREETS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS CAN'T PARK ON OUR PROPERTY. NONE OF THAT IS CHANGING. HOWEVER, JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU WILL NEED ADDITIONAL PARKING LIKELY TO ACCOMMODATE POTENTIAL 150 PEOPLE. AND SO JUST I'M NOT NOT LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER. NOW, BUT JUST SOME JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: CLARITY ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE ACCOMMODATED. AND I THINK SOME OF IT. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT UNDERGROUND POTENTIALLY WITH THE, THE MORE HIGH RISE UNITS WHICH WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE THEN THAT'S LESS, YOU KNOW, JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: PREVIOUSLY, AND THAT YOU HAVE TO YOU KNOW THAT THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE UP. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN THE PARKING WOULD BE HELPFUL, AND THEN SORT OF CROSSING OVER MY SECOND NOTE OR OR COMMENT WOULD BE JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: ANOTHER THEME THAT CAME UP A LOT WAS IN RESPONSE TO TREES AND NOT JUST FROM A JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: WE WANT FREEZE, BUT ALSO THE SCREEN EDGE THAT THAT PROVIDES. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: DASHBOARDS RESPOND. IT HAS PLEDGED THAT YOU KNOW WE CONSIDER OURSELVES AN ARBORETUM OF SORTS, AND THAT THAT'S PART OF OUR, OUR JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, AESTHETIC AND WE WILL STRIVE TO MAINTAIN THAT. AND I THINK AT ONE POINT THERE WAS EVEN AN OFFER OF A TWO FOR ONE FOR A RETREAT. WE HAD TO REPLACE WE WOULD REPLACE TO WE WOULD REPLACE IN YOU KNOW TWOFOLD HOWEVER IT YOU KNOW JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: SCREEN EDGE VALUE OF THAT IS STILL SUBJECT. SO I THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A ROBUST PLAN ABOUT JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S HARD BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS IS ALL THEORETICAL AND YOU DON'T HAVE A FINE YOU KNOW PEN TO THIS YET, BECAUSE YOU'RE WAITING FOR THE APPROVALS BEFORE YOU INVEST IN THAT LEVEL, WHICH MAKES MAKES SENSE, BUT JUST REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE COMMITMENT TO JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: TREE CONSERVATION AND PLANTINGS AND EVERYTHING THAT THAT PROVIDES, NOT JUST FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO FROM A SCREEN AND AESTHETIC STANDPOINT, I THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. SO THOSE ARE SORT OF TWO BUCKETS OF COMMENTS FOR ME.

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JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. YEAH. SO THANK MATT ANDERSON: THANK YOU JULIE. SO TWO THINGS ABOUT PARKING AS YOU ALLUDED TO THE MAJORITY OF OUR PARKING IS ACTUALLY UNDERNEATH THEIR BUILDINGS.

MATT ANDERSON: SO, AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO TRY TO DO IN ANY FUTURE BUILDINGS THAT WE WOULD DO. IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR US. THE OTHER THING IS, IS WHEN I SAY 150 PEOPLE MATT ANDERSON: THOSE 50 HEALTHCARE THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T DRIVING SO I DON'T WANT EVERYBODY TO INITIALLY START JUMPING OUT AND THINKING, OKAY, NOW WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 150 PEOPLE DRIVING AND THEN EVEN OUT OF THE INDEPENDENT LIVING PEOPLE A FAIR MAJORITY OF THEM ALSO DO NOT DRIVE JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU'LL HAVE VISITORS THEORETICALLY MATT ANDERSON: RIGHT, SO MATT ANDERSON: YOU WOULD HAVE VISITORS. YES, ABSOLUTELY.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND AND POTENTIALLY MORE STAFF TO CARE FOR THOSE PEOPLE. SO I JUST, UM, WELL I ACKNOWLEDGED THE MEMORY CARE, FOLKS.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, NOT DRIVING. I DO THINK THEY WILL HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS AND THEY WILL HAVE JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: CARETAKERS AND EMPLOYEES A DASHBOARD THAT WILL REQUIRE PARKING. SO JUST JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S THE UNDERGROUND FOR THE INDEPENDENT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A NET YOU KNOW IT NETS OUT A LITTLE BIT THERE FOR THOSE CARS, THEY'LL ALL BE UNDERGROUND FINE.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT YOU STILL HAVE POTENTIALLY 15 MEMORY. MEMORY CARE PEOPLE AND VISITORS FOR THOSE INDEPENDENT LIVING FOLKS TO THAT, I THINK, MORE PARKING IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED AND UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACT OF THAT, I THINK, IS IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW I MATT ANDERSON: I AGREE. THANK YOU JULIE FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

MATT ANDERSON: SO STEVE, I STEVEN WRABEL: YEAH, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF HE MADE ME A NOTICE THIS OR NOT. WE DID PROVIDE FOR OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN THE LOCAL LAW.

STEVEN WRABEL: SO CERTAINLY WE UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU'RE BUILDING MORE UNITS.

STEVEN WRABEL: WHAT COMES WITH THAT IS ADDITIONAL PARKING IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED. SO, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOCAL LAW, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A PROPOSED RATIO OF STEVEN WRABEL: ONE AND A HALF SPACES FOR DWELLING UNIT FOR INDEPENDENT AND POINT TWO FIVE SPACES FOR ASSISTED LIVING IS OBVIOUSLY THOSE HAVE SORT OF FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT PARKING STEVEN WRABEL: NEEDS AND THOSE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VETTED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND AND HAD BEEN GIVEN THOUGHT AS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S A TYPICAL PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THAT SORT OF USE.

STEVEN WRABEL: BUT YES, TO YOUR POINT, WE WILL CERTAINLY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION YOUR COMMENTS AND GET BACK TO MORE FULLY. BUT I DID JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD CONSIDERED MAYOR JOSH COHN: THANK THANK YOU FOR THAT. IS THERE ANY RESTRICTION ON WHERE PARKING CAN BE, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE SETBACKS, BUT THE SETBACKS, AS I UNDERSTAND THEM ARE FOR BUILDINGS AND SO CAN PARKING ESSENTIALLY RUN RIGHT OUT TO THE PROPERTY LINE.

STEVEN WRABEL: KNOW IF YOU LOOK AT SUBSECTION G, YOU'LL SEE THAT NEW PARKING AREAS AND ROADWAYS, OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, ACCESS DRIVES OBVIOUSLY MAYBE MAYBE LOCATED IN REQUIRING YARDS, BUT A NO PARKING AREA MAY BE LOCATED CLOSER THAN 40 FEET TO A PROPERTY.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: TO THE TO THE POINT ABOUT PART 162 JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: SORRY, I'M JUST CLARIFYING THE 160 SETBACK APPLIES TO BUILDINGS. THE 40 FEET APPLIES TO JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: DRIVEWAYS, OR OTHER HARD SURFACES.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT WHEN I UNDERSTOOD STEVEN WRABEL: PARKING AREAS OR STEVEN WRABEL: DRIVEWAYS OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO CONNECT TO A STREET.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: YEAH, OKAY. SORRY, SARAH. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: THE PROBLEM IT'S A IT'S A RELATED ISSUE AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL ONE. I WAS JUST LOOKING BACK AT THE SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: THE COUNTY PLANNING BOARD.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: RECOMMENDATIONS. AND GRANTED, THEY WERE BACK IN MAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR PARKING RESPONSE HAS SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: ADDRESSED THEIR SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: COMMENTS AND I'M JUST, JUST TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE, THEY HAD, THEY HAD ASKED TO CONSIDER A LOWER MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR HOUSING OF THIS TYPE.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THE REASON THAT THEY GIVE IS THAT IT WOULD MEAN FEWER IMPACTS WITH RESPECT TO STORMWATER RUNOFF AND DOWNSTREAM FLOODING.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THEY POINT OUT THAT THE OSBORNE SITE DRAINS TO BOTH THE BEAVER SWEET SWAMP BROOK AND BLIND BROOK, AS WE ALL KNOW, EXPERIENCES HAVE A FLOODING, SO THAT'S THAT'S THEIR COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ADDITIONAL. DO YOU KNOW YOUR YOUR

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SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: CHANGES HAVE INCORPORATED THAT COMMENT IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS BECAUSE THIS WAS BACK IN MAY AND THEN THEY ALSO RECORD RECOMMENDED SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: TO INCLUDE A MANDATORY SET ASIDE FOR AFFORDABLE.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: FURTHER FAIR HOUSING WHICH THEY STRONGLY ENCOURAGED BECAUSE THERE'S THIS DIRE NEED AS THEY STATE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY. SO IT'S JUST LET'S I'M SAYING IF YOU HAD ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.

MATT ANDERSON: SO IN REGARDS TO THE THE PARKING. OUR, OUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN MORE THAN, THAN THE POINT SEVEN MATT ANDERSON: ON OUR CAMPUS SO WE WE DID PROPOSE THE HIGHER NUMBERS WHICH STEPHEN JUST STATED MATT ANDERSON: AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN GO MATT ANDERSON: BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT, BUT OUR EXPERIENCES IS DIFFERENT FROM THE EXPERIENCE THAT THEY'VE STATED THERE IN REGARDS TO THE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AGAIN, NOT SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE, WE HAVE OUR OWN SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM HERE AT THE OSBORNE MATT ANDERSON: WE LAST YEAR IN 2019 WE DID $3.75 MILLION IN SCHOLARSHIP CARE HERE ON THE OSBORNE, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO AND AND THOSE PEOPLE DON'T THEN ENTER ON TO THE MEDICAID ROLES HERE AT THE ASPEN, WE ARE NOT A MEDICAID CERTIFIED ORGANIZATION.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ENROLLED IN THE SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM.

MATT ANDERSON: I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 19 OR SO RIGHT NOW.

MATT ANDERSON: COULD BE PLUS OR MINUS ONE OR TWO AND THEN WE ALSO DO WORK DOWN AT DONE IT. RYAN MANNER IN THE COMMUNITY WITH OUR HOME CARE AGENCY WITHIN THAT SCHOLARSHIP FUNDING AS WELL.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: I DO NOT HAVE HOW MANY RESIDENTS NOW.

MATT ANDERSON: SO THERE'S THERE'S 18. AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S ABOUT 400 AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE AT ABOUT 410 RIGHT NOW. SO WHERE SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: WE'RE AT SO YOU'RE ADDING APPROXIMATELY 150 MORE PEOPLE SO SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: HAVE YOU SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, AN INCREASING THAT THAT SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM.

MATT ANDERSON: SO OUR BUDGET. ABSOLUTELY. FOR THIS YEAR IS WAS BUDGETED AT 4.2 MILLION MATT ANDERSON: I DON'T HAVE EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

MATT ANDERSON: BUT WE HAVE BEEN RAISING IT EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: THANKS. AND I JUST ACTUALLY WANTED JUST TO ADD ABOUT THE TREES THAT I'M AND I'M NOT GOING TO BOTHER TO REPEAT WHAT JULIAN SAID, BUT SUFFICE IT TO SAY I AM IN SUPPORT OF SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: AS MANY TREES AS YOU CAN. FIRST OF ALL, PRESERVE, ESPECIALLY THE MATURE TREES AND. AND THEN, OF COURSE, REPLACING ANY THAT YOU NEED TO REMOVE. ABSOLUTELY.

MATT ANDERSON: THANK YOU. AND OUR RESIDENTS AND WE ALL FEEL VERY SIMILAR. AGAIN, THE, THE TREES IN OUR CAMPUS FIELD HAS BEEN A BIG PART OF OUR CAMPUS AND OUR FEEL EVEN MORE SO.

MATT ANDERSON: THROUGH THIS TIME OF CODE AND OUR RESIDENTS REALLY BEING ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL OF OUR CAMPUS. DURING THIS TIME, AND TO FEEL SAFE WITH OUT HAVING TO LEAVE OUR CAMPUS.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: UM, IF I COULD ASK WILL JUST SAY A COUPLE THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, ONE OF MY POINTS WAS THE WAS THE TRAFFIC SITUATION THAT I WAS BORN.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A AS A RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE. I THINK THAT'S AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: BUT JOSH ALREADY BROUGHT IT UP. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND SECONDLY, JULIE BROUGHT UP THE SCREENING ISSUE. I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THE TREE COMMENT FOR SURE, BUT I THINK THE SCREENING COMMON BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE NOTES THAT YOU FOLKS HAD SENT AROUND. SO I THINK TO GET THAT REGISTERED AS A CONCERN BECAUSE AGAIN, GIVEN THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND EVEN WITH THE SETBACKS, THE RELATIVE PROXIMITY TO THE SURROUNDING ROADS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A VERY CONCERTED EFFORT TO SCREEN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME REFERENCE TO THAT I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A BUNCH OF COMMENTARY ABOUT TREES AND AND OTHER STUFF. AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME COMING

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BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: ON THE RECORD FOR, YOU KNOW, THE EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SCREENING IS IS DONE AS BEST AS POSSIBLE FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THERE'S DONE THE COUNCIL.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: EARLY EARLY DAYS FOR US TO OF COURSE WITH WITH YOUR RESPONSIVE MATERIAL AND IF IF YOUR GAME FOR IT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE YOU ON THE AGENDA, THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AND INVITE THE PUBLIC TO BE SPEAKING AT THAT POINT AS WELL.

MATT ANDERSON: THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: SO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I KNOW WE ALL APPRECIATE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU. AND AGAIN, SORRY, THAT IT'S GOTTEN SO LATE INTO THE EVENING. THANKS. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

MATT ANDERSON: THANK YOU.

MATT ANDERSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK MATT ANDERSON: YOU. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A CONTINUATION OF OUR MAYOR JOSH COHN: FUNDING IN SMALL SLICES OF THE EFFORTS OF BEST BEST AND KRIEGER TO MAYOR JOSH COHN: ON BEHALF OF THE COALITION OF MUNICIPALITIES TO TRY TO MAYOR JOSH COHN: DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT WORD IS MAYOR JOSH COHN: THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT A FINGER IN THE DIKE THAT IS HOLDING BACK THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: FROM MAKING IT MAYOR JOSH COHN: VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR MUNICIPALITIES TO HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY OVER THE PERMITTING OF WIRELESS FACILITIES. SO THIS LATEST EFFORT WOULD BE TO CHALLENGE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: A DECISION OF THE NINTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS, THAT IS UP FOR ON BANK REVIEW AND KRISTEN. IF YOU CAN FOCUS THE ISSUE JUST FOR A MINUTE OR TWO, THEN THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

KRISTEN WILSON: SURE. SO THE CRITICAL ISSUES THAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR IS TO RETAIN AS MUCH LOCAL REVIEW AUTHORITY AS POSSIBLE WITH THE FCC ORDERS THAT ARE KRISTEN WILSON: REALLY CONSTANTLY BEING REVISED AND SUBSEQUENTLY CHALLENGE. THEY ARE SLOWLY TAKING AWAY ANY AUTHORITY THAT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT DOES HAVE SO WE ARE FIGHTING TO TO KEEP THAT IN PLACE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN TEED UP OUT IN CALIFORNIA AND THE NINTH CIRCUIT.

KRISTEN WILSON: WITH THE HOPE THAT THE NINTH CIRCUIT IS A BIT MORE FRIENDLY TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY AND HOME RULE AUTHORITY. SO KRISTEN WILSON: WE KEEP FIGHTING THE FIGHT, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET A GOOD DECISION OUT OF THE NINTH CIRCUIT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: SO I, I THINK THIS NEEDS ROLL CALL BECAUSE MAYOR JOSH COHN: BUT MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MAYOR JOSH COHN: ADVANCE UP TO 20 $500 TO BEST BEST IN KRIEGER TO SUPPORT THEIR APPEAL IN THE NINTH CIRCUIT.

ON PAMELA TARLOW, COUNCIL MEMBER: A SECOND MAYOR JOSH COHN: ALL IN ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN BATTERED CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: YES COUNCILMAN MECCA.

YES.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN SOUZA, YES.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: COUNCILMAN STACKS.

YES.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: COUNCILWOMAN TARLOW YES.

CAROLYN D'ANDREA, CITY CLERK: THEY'RE CLOSED CON YES.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM MONTY GARISH MILTON POINT PROVISIONS TO USE THE CITY PARKING LOT ON MILTON ROAD NEXT TO HEAL IT AVENUE TO THE PARKING LOT RIGHT NEXT TO HIS STORE.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: ASKED, CAN I MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS PLACE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: WELL, YEAH, THOUGH. I'M JUST FINDING IT. I'M NOT SURE WHY WHAT THE REFERENCES TO THE LANE, IT'S IN THIS, I THOUGHT THAT I HAD ASKED THAT THAT BE DELETED BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. BUT IT'S STILL HERE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: WHAT IS THE LANE.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: JOSH, I'M NOT. I CAN'T DESCRIBE WHAT THE LANE IS THE AREA THAT THEY'RE THAT HE'S ASKING FOR IS THE PARKING LOT.

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GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO THE BUILDING THAT IS THE PROVISIONS LOCATION RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE BOAT BASIN, THERE IS A THERE IS A ELAINE BEHIND THE BUILDING. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHAT IT'S REFERRING TO. BUT HE'S ASKING FOR THE USE OF THE PARKING LOT NEXT TO HIS, HIS RESTAURANT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OKAY, SO JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: A LITTLE LIKE LANE BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND WHERE HE'S GOT HIS OUTDOOR A BACK TO THE PREVIOUS COMMENT TO MILTON PROVISIONS IS ALSO HAS SOME OUTSIDE SEATING, BUT JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: AND THEN THE PARKING SPOT. SO THERE'S THIS SORT OF LANE OR THIRD YOU COULD DRIVE UP A LITTLE BIT FURTHER UP MY JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS ISSUE THOUGH IS THAT I AM FINE WITH THE USING CITY PROPERTY FOR THE EXHIBITION OF THE FILM. I AM NOT.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: IT DEFIES PRECEDENT TO ALLOW THEM TO CHARGE FOR IT USING CITY PROPERTY. SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MOVE THAT WE ALLOW THE LAND TO BE USED. HOWEVER, I KNOW CHARGING OF ADMISSION.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: THAT ITEM DIDN'T MISS MISS US ON THE WAY IN, SO I YOU KNOW I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT WILL TALK TO MONEY. HE HAS GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: FOR MANY OF YOU KNOW HE'S A LOCAL RESIDENT HIS FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS, PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, ETC.

GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: HE OPENED PROBABLY 15 OR TRIED TO OPEN 15 MINUTES AFTER THE START OF A COVEN SO IT'S BEEN A ROUGH GO AND THIS IS KIND OF GRAND OPENING CELEBRATION, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO HIM ABOUT THE FACT GREG USRY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER: OF NOT CHARGING BECAUSE WE HAVE TURNED DOWN OTHER GROUPS HAVE WANTED TO USE CITY PROPERTY FOR FOR PROFIT ENTERPRISES.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE IT FOR A NONPROFIT USE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I'LL SECOND OR THIRD NO NO COST.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: YES NO TICKETING NO YOU CAN'T CHARGE FOR TICKETS. BUT IF HE JUST WANTS TO SHOW THE MOVIE AND PEOPLE HAPPEN TO WALK IN AND BUY A BOX DINNER SOVIET MAYOR JOSH COHN: OH, OK. SO THE EMOTION IS OUT THERE MAY HAVE A SECOND SECOND, MAYOR JOSH COHN: ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST BY THE RYE YMCA FOR THE USE OF CITY STREETS FOR THE 33RD ANNUAL RIDE DERBY. ON APRIL 25 2021 FROM 9AM TO 2PM I JUST SO LIKE THE THOUGHT THAT THERE MIGHT BE A RIDE DERBY, ACTUALLY THIS COMING. APRIL.

BEN STACKS, COUNCIL MEMBER: LET'S HOPE YOU MAYOR JOSH COHN: MAY HAVE EMOTION.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: I MOVED. SECOND.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: SECOND, JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: I'LL SECOND.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: ALL IN FAVOR.

CAROLINA JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER: ALL RIGHT.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: OH, BUSINESS NEW BUSINESS.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: KNOWS ME, MAY I HAVE EMOTION.

RICHARD MECCA, COUNCIL MEMBER: LOVE TO MAKE THAT MOTION. I'M OUT OF GAS. LET ME TELL YOU.

JULIE SOUZA, COUNCIL MEMBER: I SECOND.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: ALL IN FAVOR.

MAYOR JOSH COHN: AYE SIR AND SARA GODDARD, COUNCIL MEMBER: THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYBODY. HEY, HEY,

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